Dmytro Kuleba
The Diplomat
People, composure and the difficult conversation held well.
Dmytro Kuleba is the Ukrainian Foreign Minister who navigates complex geopolitical landscapes to secure support for his country amidst the ongoing conflict with Russia. This interview reveals his diplomatic approach, focusing on coalition-building and the necessity of understanding different perspectives in international relations.
“Impossible to move on without dismantling this infrastructure first, which is extremely difficult, of course. And secondly, drones are extremely cheap. Drones make waging wars cheap. And that's what you're going to see in the coming years.”
“So, in the Soviet Union back then, if you wanted to make a career, you had to do, and you were coming from a very simple family, you had to do two things. First, you had to switch to Russian. It was impossible to be a part of the high society, high Soviet society while speaking Ukrainian.”
“Seem to be very far away from membership in NATO at this point, although things may change. But Ukrainians are craving a hard not reassurance, but a very hard evidence that all the blood that we spilled shielded us from remaining in the Russian world.”
“You make someone change the position either by forcing that side to change, imposing your will on them if you have enough of strength and power. Or by changing the motivation of that other side, right? And none of these elements are in place today.”
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