General Sir Patrick Sanders
The Navigator
Judgement in the fog, money, risk and the call others cannot make.
General Sir Patrick Sanders demonstrates Navigator leadership throughout this interview, charting complex geopolitical terrain with methodical clarity and long-horizon thinking. Sanders maps the Ukraine conflict, Iran's nuclear calculus, China's strategic ambitions, and the ESG defense investment paradox as interconnected systems requiring careful course-correction rather than reactive decision-making.
“So I think it's very likely that the first set of conversations will result in Trump realizing that there is no deal to be had unless he causes Putin some pain. If he doesn't do that and he gives Putin what he wants, Wants, then you end up with Trump owning a strategic defeat in the same way that Biden owned Afghanistan as a defeat.”
“And he seeks nothing less than being the regional hegemon in the area, hence what he's doing in the South China Sea with the 10-line, and being a global power. And the risk is that we fall into this idea of the Thucydides trap, where a rising power and a declining power inevitably clash and it leads to war.”
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“The nature of that competition is essentially between a liberal West, the democracies and an axis, an alignment of autocracies of which China is one. So this rather awful acronym, the Krinks, China, Russia, Iran, North Korea formed the core of that.”
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