Anthony Albanese
Grayndler · Australian Labor Party · Australia
“The ground there at Brookvale Oval, as I call it, was of course sponsored by a gambling company, so every time there's a game on there you see that constant advertising around the ground. What our legislation will do is make sure that future contracts can't be issued with things such as advertising on jerseys or advertising on grounds.”
“She's someone who's passionate about it and tells me about her constituent who is 108 years old and travelled, as a very young boy, from South Australia with family for the opening of the first parliament—and he's still there. We hope he's able to attend again.”
“That is why, just this week, there was the increase in the minimum wage, the decrease in taxes, the support for paid parental leave, super being paid every payday. All of these changes make a positive difference to people's lives.”
“This year, Australia is celebrating 125 years of Federation, and I was with you and other members in Melbourne to commemorate that event of the first sitting of parliament, and it was a very good celebration of our history, which is worthy of celebration.”
“We Australians sometimes think of ourselves as a young nation on an ancient continent, yet by global standards, of course, we are one of the oldest and strongest democracies in the world. Next year will mark an important anniversary: the 100th anniversary of Australian democracy making its home here in Canberra, our national capital.”
“I note the member for McPherson, who's a former attendant in Parliament House, has agreed to be one of the members of that committee as well, and that's a good thing.”
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“It's one of the big contrasts in this chamber: we on this side supporting higher wages and lower taxes, and those on that side arguing for lower wages and higher income taxes. This comes on top of the cuts to income taxes, where we changed stage 3 to make sure that low-income earners actually got a tax cut. It comes on top of the not one, not two but three increases in the minimum wage and award wages—a 3.5 per cent increase for award wages on 1 July. Real wages have now grown for 18 months in a row. At the same time, more than 1.1 million jobs have been created. The gender pay gap is the lowest on record, and we have delivered substantial pay increases for workers in feminised industries such as aged care and child care. As to the coalition, of course, we don't know what their position will be when it comes to penalty rates.”
“I thank the member for Bonner for her question. It was a pleasure to spend so much time with the member for Bonner in the lead-up to the 3 May election, where I saw how connected she was with her local community there in the suburbs of Brisbane. Many of those constituents will, of course, be people who depend upon penalty rates for their standard of living and their quality of life, which is why today the minister introduced legislation to enshrine penalty rates into law, protecting weekend and overtime pay for around 2.6 million Australians, because we want Australians to earn more and to keep more of what they earn. If you're giving up your weekend, our government will make sure that you get paid the penalty rates that you deserve.”
“Members of this parliament have a choice sometimes of whether they will back Australia or seek to undermine Australia, a very simple proposition. Those opposite have chosen, rather than supporting a position—which they did in government, to be fair—of supporting free trade, including the free trade agreement with the United States and, might I add, the free trade agreement that they signed up to with China as well, and rather than putting the case, along with members of the government, that tariffs are a cause of economic self-harm by the United States and that those countries that impose tariffs are imposing a cost on the purchase of goods and services—in this case, the United States is putting a cost on goods being exported from Australia into the United States—”
“Australia used to, on a bipartisan basis, support free and fair trade—both sides. I find it extraordinary that the coalition seem to have made a decision that a decision by the US administration, contrary to our free trade agreement with the United States, to apply an across-the-board tariff on Australian exports into the United States has brought with it not a criticism of the issue of the imposition of tariffs but another criticism. Rather than choosing to support Australia, it has chosen the opposite.”
“I thank the member for the question. Last time I looked—just to have a bit of a fact check—AUKUS wasn't actually delivered during the former government. The concept, to give credit where credit's due, did come from the Morrison government, but the AUKUS agreement was signed by me, President Biden and Prime Minister Sunak in San Diego. That is just a fact. The US President was elected and took office in January. Since then, we have had three conversations. I also make the point that there is no country—including the announcement today of an arrangement with Japan and the United States in which the previous tariff level of 25 per cent across the board was reduced to 15 per cent, which is still higher than the tariff rate of 10 per cent which Australia has. And Australia has a tariff rate lower than or equal to every other country on Earth.”
“I thank the new shadow minister for defence for his question. While I was in China, I saw the shadow minister for defence's comments when it comes to the long-held position that has been a bipartisan position up to now on the issue of the Taiwan Strait. The United States has had a long-term position about strategic ambiguity, and that has been done for a responsible reason. But what we saw from the shadow defence minister in his first outing in uttering comments in an area that requires responsibility, requires a national interest and requires the support of our sovereignty when it comes to our decision-making processes was a breach. I'm not sure if that's the position of the Liberal Party today or the National Party today or where it is—”
“The wine sector, found in the Barossa Valley, Margaret River, Tasmania, the Yarra Valley or the Hunter Valley, knows that this matters. Australia's relationships in the modern world matter, which is why we need to have a mature and responsible approach to it and which is why this visit will produce real concrete benefits for Australian jobs and our Australian economy.”
“We know that the big iron ore exporters Fortescue, BHP, Rio Tinto and Hancock certainly understand it, which is why they participated, with their counterparts, in the steel decarbonisation roundtable, something that could make an enormous difference—Ross Garnaut expects it could be worth three to four times the value of our iron ore exports today, as well as the most significant contribution we could make to reducing global emissions. The beef producers of Queensland know that this relationship matters. The lobster fishers in Geraldton know that this matters. The rural communities who grow barley know that this matters. Our tourism operators—and we signed a significant expansion deal there—know that it matters.”
“Of course, we have a different political system and different values. But we'll cooperate where we can, we'll disagree where we must and we'll engage in our national interest. I'm asked how it will benefit this relationship. The leaders of some of Australia's biggest companies and biggest employers who accompanied me on this visit certainly know that that's the case. The Business Council of Australia understand. That's why they had a high-level delegation of CEOs and chairs of finance companies and universities, as well as resource companies, manufacturing sectors and legal service providers.”
“I thank the member for Deakin for his question, and I know from my visit to his now electorate on many occasions during the last term that he understands the importance that these global relationships can have, and at a time of global economic uncertainty and strategic competition in our region, it is particularly important. The way Australia navigates this uncertainty and manages this competition is critical to both our security and our prosperity, and our relationship with China is an important part of that. One in four Australian jobs depend upon trade, and nearly a third of our exports go to one destination: China. Indeed, it is absolutely critical for jobs here in Australia. We know, from the fact that the impediments to trade have been removed, the benefits in repairing and stabilising that relationship.”
“I'll give a bit tip to the member for Fairfax: the time to run a scare campaign is just before an election, not after one! That's the time when you stand up and you say, 'Will you rule things in, and will you rule things out?' Because the next election is due in May 2028, what we are going to do—”
“Our first piece of legislation was to assist people by putting more dollars in their pockets with the 20 per cent cut in student debt, delivering benefits of, on average, $5½ thousand. But, had we not been successful on 3 May, we know what the first piece of legislation would have been, because, remarkably, those opposite went to an election saying that they would actually introduce legislation to increase income taxes for every single Australian taxpayer by increasing that first marginal tax rate not once but twice.”
“Tax was an issue at the last election. It was an issue on 3 May, and in the budget brought down by the Treasurer in March we had not one tax cut but two tax cuts. We brought forward the legislation before this parliament, we passed it on the Wednesday and then it went through the Senate as well later that day. So, as a direct result of the actions that we have taken, we will see income tax cuts for all 14 million taxpayers, following up from the income tax cuts that we delivered last July for all 14 million taxpayers, delivered on 1 July next year and then a further tax cut on 1 July the year after. Now, that is action that we took, and today, of course, parliament has begun.”
“Now, I think that most people would have thought, if you're studying to be a nurse or you're studying to be a teacher—and these are professions that are in short supply; we want to encourage people to go down those career paths. When they took time out to do prac in a hospital or an aged-care facility or in a school, they would actually have to leave their part-time jobs. It would actually cost them money to do a prac. Well, under this government, that was fixed, from 1 July, just like the $10,000 bonuses for construction workers; just like free TAFE; and just like paid parental leave with super paid on it for the first time and an additional two weeks taking it up to 24 weeks, which will go up to 26 next year. The superannuation guarantee went up to 12 per cent. The $150 energy bill relief began.”
“But, of course, those opposite said they would oppose this, and we went through the election campaign with one of the big distinctions between the Labor government and the opposition being that we wanted to provide that cost-of-living help, like we did throughout the last term, and—consistent with what they did in the last term—they opposed every single measure. This helps not just people who are university graduates but also about 280,000 apprentices who got vocational education. And it's just one of the measures. We didn't wait for parliament to come back before we started delivering on our cost-of-living agenda. On 1 July, paid pracs for student nurses, social workers and midwives began.”
“I thank the member for Dickson for her question. I congratulate her on what was an extraordinary first speech in this chamber last night. It was a privilege to be here, and I think that it will go down as one of the great speeches—a great beginning to what I'm sure will be a long career as the member for Dickson. Today we are cutting student debt by 20 per cent through the legislation that we've introduced. We announced it last December. We said it would be the first piece of legislation that we would introduce, were we to be re-elected, and one of the reasons why we sit on this side of the chamber is this policy, because it resonated with those young Australians in particular who are looking for intergenerational equity measures, which is what this is, saving some three million Australians an average of $5½ thousand each.”
“Up until the Albanese Government, we have seen Federal Government say, no, it's the problem of the states, it's the problem of local government. Who might Denita Wawn have been speaking about? The former government that, over the nine long years, didn't bother to have a housing minister for half the time, had complete contempt for public housing, provided no incentives for—”
“Well, there is a housing minister for the LNP from Queensland called Sam O'Connor. This is what he had to say: A major milestone has been reached with construction underway on one of the Gold Coast's largest social and affordable housing projects … The highrise supportive housing project is being delivered by the Australian Government's Housing Australia Future Fund … He went on to say: Importantly, this project will provide 200 vulnerable Gold Coast households with much more than a safe and secure roof over their heads. Master Builders Australia support our programs. Denita Wawn said: The 1.2— million homes— we say is achievable … for the first time, we've seen a Federal Government actually recognise that they've got a leadership role in resolving this problem.”
“I think it is pretty clear that there are going to be people who will contribute not just to their local electorate but to the growth and prosperity of our great nation and will shape it in a way that certainly is consistent with the extraordinary progressive values that we have seen on display here this evening. Debate adjourned.”
“We have heard about their commitment to education, health, housing, multiculturalism, justice for First Nations people, climate change, gender equality, social justice, aspiration and opportunity for all. As someone who has been here for a while, I believe that, with these contributions, Australia is in good shape, and the party I'm proud to lead is certainly in good shape as well. I commend every one of the five who've made these contributions—and I commend you for the way in which you've done so as well. No doubt your passion will shine through in the contribution that you will make over the next three years and—more importantly, I think—beyond that, as contributors, not just as local representatives.”
“I move: That the debate be adjourned. I will just briefly say that we have witnessed, from the members for Dickson, Melbourne, Braddon, Menzies and Griffith, five extraordinary contributions to this House. It makes me incredibly proud as the Leader of the Australian Labor Party, but even more proud as the Prime Minister of Australia, that we have people who have shared their personal stories and overcome so much to get here. They have also spoken about their commitment and their hard work. They have been very generous in talking about the contribution others have made to getting them to the House of Representatives, but what's very clear is that the quality of these people has been front and centre in getting them elected to the House of Representatives.”
“I move: That a committee, consisting of Ms France, Ms Witty and the mover, be appointed to prepare an Address in Reply to the speech delivered by Her Excellency the Governor-General to both Houses of the Parliament and that the committee report at a later hour this day. Question agreed to. Sitting suspended from 15:48 to 17:00”
“Assistant Ministers in italics are designated as Parliamentary Secretaries under the Ministers of State Act 1952 . Mr Speaker, I would also like to inform the House that the honourable member for Lalor has been appointed Chief Government Whip and that the honourable members for Werriwa and Bean have been appointed government whips.”
“Mr Speaker, I have the honour to inform the House that, following the election held on 3 May 2025, the Governor-General commissioned me to form a government. Ministers and assistant ministers were appointed on 13 May 2025. For the information of honourable members, I present a list of the full ministry. The document lists all ministers and assistant ministers and the offices they hold. It shows those ministers who comprise the cabinet and provides details of representation arrangements in each chamber. I understand the document will be included in the Votes and Proceedings and Hansard . The document read as follows— Each box represents a portfolio. As a general rule, there is one department in each portfolio. However, there can be two departments in one portfolio. Cabinet Ministers are shown in bold type.”
“I congratulate you on your election, and I look forward to working with you and seeing your work with all of the parliament over the next three years.”
“I truly believe that that's the case. You are a steady hand, Mr Speaker, and in your re-election this House has shown its gratitude for the work that you have done in your first term as Speaker. May there be many more terms to come. You have engaged across electorates, something that Mr Smith certainly did in my electorate, and I know that it is appreciated. The fact that you're getting out there and promoting our democracy is one of the things that you don't have to do but want to do. It's something that you do with passion and with eloquence. So I'm pleased that you are our custodian in this 48th Parliament. I look forward to your guidance, your counsel and your—mostly—infallible and gracious rulings; it's never too early to put in a good word there.”
“We have either peaceful transitions of power or resumptions of power, such as in the case of the 48th Parliament, in a way that respects outcomes. We see that. We saw that from the former member for Dickson, who gave, I think, an outstanding speech on the evening of 3 May. That's something that we should all be proud of as a country. This is a place of fierce debate. It's said that democratic politics is war by other means. The part of the tradition of you coming, being forced, into the chair is that Speakers in other places—it did not end well if there was disagreement. Of course, the mace is symbolic. The distance across this table is the distance of a sword length as well. But we are able to debate our views. People overwhelmingly come to this House from their different perspectives but with a common interest in the national interest.”
“I must say, Mr Speaker, that I've never seen you run as fast as you did towards that high office, which you have quite rightly assumed. During the last term you showed a commitment to integrity. You showed a commitment to fairness and an understanding that this institution is something that we who've just been sworn into office should cherish and should really value. I am—as you know, Mr Speaker—a proud student of the parliament, and, around the world, we should acknowledge the strength of our democracy. I really think that we have the best system in terms of compulsory voting and the number of people who vote in elections—notwithstanding the issue of informal votes that has been raised quite rightly, which we want to see come down.”
“Mr Speaker, I begin by congratulating you on your re-election and thank and acknowledge the fact that it is a unanimous position of this House. It was moved by the member for Lalor and seconded by the member for Riverina. That says something about the way in which you're held in this House. Last term you assumed the Speaker's chair for the first time, and you had already earned the respect of the Labor caucus that I am proud to lead. We knew full well that you would do the job with fairness, with humour and with intellect, and indeed you did so. This term you've been rightly re-elected to that chair. We follow tradition in this place, including you reluctantly coming from the back there to assume the chair!”
“I have assured the Premier that, regardless of the circumstances and status of the government, if I can put it that way, we will continue to make sure that support is available over coming weeks should it be needed.”
“One of the issues occurring there, as the Premier informed me, is that a relatively lower level of rainfall—when compared with what we have seen on the coast—can have a much bigger impact because the area is so dry on some of those stations and around those towns. The water also stays at an increased level for much longer. So our thoughts are with the farmers and the communities affected by this. I know that the Minister for Emergency Management, Senator McAllister, has been in touch with the Premier of Queensland as well, and with the Leader of the Nationals as the local member, and we'll continue to work on these issues. The seamless work that was done between the national government, the Queensland and New South Wales governments and the respective mayors in the communities was, I think, best practice over recent months.”
“I had a discussion with the Premier of Queensland, David Crisafulli, last night about the flood situation developing in Queensland, particularly in the member for Maranoa's electorate—and I had a discussion with the leader of the National Party earlier today. I assured the Premier that of course we would continue to work together on these issues and that the support of the national government would be there, as it always is in a time of crisis or when it is needed. At this stage, we have not received any requests for further support, but our hearts go out to and thoughts are with the people affected, particularly those on the cattle stations in the member for Maranoa's electorate.”
“We're supporting appropriate working-from-home arrangements and the right to disconnect; they only want you to work at home if you're not getting paid. That's what those opposite want.”
“We've made medicines cheaper; they voted against cheaper medicines. They tried to stop that measure, voting against it six times in this parliament. We're cutting student debt by 20 per cent; they want to stop that cut to student debt happening. We're building new energy now; they have a $600 billion nuclear energy plan that, sometime in the 2040s, will deliver four per cent of Australia's energy needs and push up energy prices. We're backing a Future Made in Australia; they want to send jobs and industries offshore. We're making free TAFE permanent; they want to end it. They regard it as a waste and say that people don't value it if it's free. We're giving early educators a 15 per cent pay rise; they mock it.”
“I thank the member for Chisholm for her question. Indeed, we have cut taxes, of course, for every single Australian taxpayer. We did that last year with legislation where we changed the legislated tax cuts of the Morrison government. We said that, under the circumstances, we could do better than that. We can make sure that no Australian gets left behind. That's why we delivered tax cuts for every taxpayer, and that's why last night the Senate passed legislation to give that tax cut to every taxpayer. I'm asked about alternatives to that plan, and, of course, we know now that those opposite absolutely want to raise taxes for everyone. We're strengthening Medicare on this side of the chamber; they want to gut it. We're growing wages; they want people to work longer for less.”
“They say a lot about who we are. The PBS is something that was introduced, of course, by the Chifley government. It's something of which the Australian Labor Party is particularly proud, and I'm proud that we've strengthened the PBS by having not just the decrease from $42.50 down to $30, but, now, the further decrease that we support, down to $25, as well as 60-day scripts and other measures that we have put in place. Just like Medicare, it is something that I will always defend. I think that health care and accessibility is something that we should be proud of. If you compare our health system to the American health system, what happens in this country is that people, no matter how wealthy you are or no matter how poor you are, have access to proper health care.”
“The United States President, I would expect, will attend the Quad meeting, which will be hosted here either next year or the year after. This year's Quad meeting is in India. The President of the United States has shown me the courtesy of inviting me to visit the United States. I have returned the courtesy, as is normal practice. I will continue to engage in a respectful way, notwithstanding the fact that I have some different political views to different world leaders. But what I do is engage respectfully across the board, and I act in Australia's national interest. That is what people would expect of me. I will continue to do that. I will continue to stand up for Australia's national interests, including of course on issues such as the Pharmaceutical Benefits Scheme and other things that are uniquely Australian assets.”
“I thank the member for Brisbane for his question. Australia has a longstanding relationship with the United States, as our important ally since the Second World War. President Trump was elected by the American people last November. We respect democratic outcomes in Australia. That's something that I'm very proud of—that we have orderly transitions of power. We had that when Mr Morrison lost the election. There was an orderly transition of power. I have had two discussions with the President of the United States. The first was after he was elected and the second was after his inauguration. Both of those conversations were some of the first that we had, and I think that reflects the respect that Australia is shown by the United States as important allies. The United States President will always be welcome in Australia.”
“The member for New England got in on it. He was asked whether it would help, and he said this: No, it won't. But what it will do is it'll take money away that we spend on roads. That's what he had to say. The current shadow transport minister was in on the joke as well. Senator McKenzie is always good for a quote. She said, 'I think just pulling one lever, such as fuel excise, won't deliver the whole-of-economy response and relief that Australians are looking for.' They have spent three years bagging this policy that he's going to announce tonight—three years—because they know that this temporary relief is no substitute for the permanent cost-of-living relief that we've delivered and they've voted against.”
“Not to be outdone, the shadow Treasurer said: 'So, while putting more money in people's pockets through a fuel excise might sound good, the problem is it is not actually solving the inflation problem, and you will see price rises elsewhere as a result.' On 5 December 2023, Senator Jane Hume, the finance spokesperson, said, 'Putting subsidies on fuel prices can in fact fuel the inflationary fire rather than temper it.' There is more, just in case you think that was a one-off. Maybe they said this in the shadow cabinet meeting, if it went there. In November 2023, they said: 'There are two problems with it. One is it could all be eaten up with global volatility in a moment, so people might not actually feel that in their hip pocket.' That's what they had to say. But it wasn't just the people with portfolio responsibility.”
“I thank the member for Cowper for his question. One of the distinctions to be drawn here is between permanent cost-of-living relief and something that is temporary and borrowed from the Morrison government. The leftovers of the Morrison government have borrowed the leftovers of the Morrison government's policy. In the March 2022 budget they proposed something very similar that then just disappeared. They have had time to think about it since and, indeed, they have made comments about it since, very helpfully. This is what the Leader of the Opposition said in October 2023: 'There can be temporary relief through a reduction of excise if they believe that is going to be a benefit. It is costly and it can be gamed by the oil giants.' That was what he said.”
“We know that they actually support a tax every time people visit a GP rather than that. We know that they've called the largest increase in rent assistance in 30 years 'waste'—all of the measures that we have put in place. Now those opposite have the hide to come in here and say, 'Why don't you do sooner what we oppose?' It says it all about the lack of logic in their team. No wonder they've come up with this rubbish. (Time expired)”
“They have voted against every measure of cost-of-living support, and, on Tuesday night, it was not just the lower taxes that the Treasurer spoke about. It was the cheaper medicines; we know they oppose that. It was the energy bill relief; we know they oppose that. They oppose the cap on gas and coal prices. We know that they oppose the cuts of $3 billion of student debt, and they oppose the future cuts that we will put in place that will cut student debt by 20 per cent, leading to an average $5½ thousand benefit for three million Australians. They oppose that—$5½ thousand for three million Australians. We know that they opposed the measures that were put in place that have allowed, first, 11 million Australians to get access to their GP just with bulk billing.”
“I really, really thank the shadow Treasurer for that question. What I'm asked by the shadow Treasurer is, 'Why isn't the policy which will further top up our tax cuts for every taxpayer, all 14 million of them, next year and then the year after—making a total, with the top-up, of $2½ thousand less tax being paid by average taxpayers—and which those opposite voted against, being done sooner?' That is what they've asked. But that wouldn't be quite so bad, because it is not just, 'Why haven't you done what we opposed sooner?' He's actually asked, 'Why haven't you done sooner what we're going to repeal and reverse?' Having stood up and declared this morning that he would absolutely impose higher taxes on every taxpayer, he then says, 'Why didn't you just do the reverse sooner?' It's just extraordinary.”
“My plan is to implement the AUKUS arrangements that we are committed to. I'll do that for a range of reasons. I'll do that primarily, though, for one reason, which is that it is in the Australian national interest for us to have the best defence assets that are possibly available to Australia. When we have briefings, I am happy to arrange for appropriate briefings for the member for Goldstein on these matters. If you are an island continent located where we are, the best asset you can possibly have is a submarine. But, importantly, you have to then ask yourself: what is the best form of submarine in terms of stealth and in terms of capacity to go long distances while not having to snort and rise to the surface, and what is the best way that you can ensure that you are not detectable? The answer to that is nuclear powered submarines.”
“I wonder if the Leader of the Opposition gave that speech or that question when he was sitting in the cabinet room when indexation of petrol was reintroduced in the 2014 budget. I wonder if, when he sat there and reintroduced indexation in 2014, he gave that rein.”
“We have doubled funding to better look after national parks, including Kakadu and Uluru, and we're working with First Nations rangers to deliver that protection of the environment, taking account of 65,000 years of knowledge. Throughout our environment, we have invested $550 million to better protect our threatened plants and animals and to tackle the feral animals and weeds killing our native species. When it comes to the urban environment, we've got our urban rivers program. We have a comprehensive plan and, what's more, a lot of it would have been implemented earlier if the Greens had just voted for it. (Time expired)”
“But such contempt did he have for the environment that, when he was making himself Treasurer, finance minister, industry minister and everything else, he forgot to appoint himself as environment minister. That's how much contempt he had for the environment. But we protected just on Saturday an extra 100 million hectares of Aussie ocean and bush. A program of some $250 million was announced by our environment minister in the budget to meet our commitment to protect 30 per cent of Australia's landmass by 2030. That is what we have done. We have quadrupled the size of Heard Island and McDonald Islands Marine Reserve—the biggest act of ocean conservation anywhere in the world in 2024. We've tripled the size of Macquarie Island Marine Park. We have blocked proposals like Clive Palmer's big Queensland coalmine.”
“I thank the member for Ryan for her question and for identifying her preference for Scott Morrison as Prime Minister compared with a Labor government that has put in place measures including the most serious climate change policy ever put in place by any Australian government in history—a 43 per cent target by 2030, with mechanisms to get there. We have the safeguard mechanism, the Capacity Investment Scheme, the Solar Sunshot program, Hydrogen Headstart, programs for batteries, programs for the National Reconstruction Fund to drive this through and programs for critical minerals and rare earths through our production tax credits, but they have the hide to come in here and mention Scott Morrison, who may well have been the environment minister as well. That is possible!”
“Now, those opposite are against tax cuts for every taxpayer. It's consistent with an opposition that wants to cut people's pay but doesn't want to cut their taxes. That is what they want. He will always cut, and Australians will always pay. We know that the 2014 budget papers show very clearly the $80 billion in cuts to education and health that were envisaged by 2024-25, over 10 years. This guy was the health minister. I know that he wants to walk away from his record, but I assure him he'll get a few reminders over the coming weeks. (Time expired)”