Kelly McCauley
Edmonton West, Alberta · Conservative · Canada
“Madam Speaker, we listened to the Liberals earlier, especially the member for Winnipeg North , bash and attack anyone who disagrees with Bill C-9 , actually in fear that they are all far right, right-wing, crazy white supremacists if they oppose the government on this.”
“Mr. Speaker, this is obviously a very divisive issue. There are some parts of Bill C-9 that various communities support. There is also a wide range of issues within Bill C-9 that communities do not support.”
“Mr. Speaker, I understand what my colleague is saying; it is understandable. Various faith groups have expressed concerns about Bill C‑9 , such as the leadership for the Catholic bishops in Canada and others from the Abrahamic faiths. Can the member explain why those views and concerns on Bill C‑9 should be discounted?”
“Madam Speaker, I am very pleased to rise in support of this fantastic bill from my colleague from Calgary Centre . It is very disappointing to hear members of the Liberal government look at a very strong, common-sense piece of legislation and, of course, throw it away. It is interesting to hear them complain about costs.”
“Yet, when the Liberals have a chance to support a common-sense bill that would help Canadians, encourage investment in Canada and reduce greenhouse gases, we hear government members stand up and speak against it. Bill C-269 is a very simple, common-sense bill.”
“Madam Speaker, I should use this time to finish my speech on Bill C-269 . However, I have a simple question. We have late-night sittings, and we have plenty of time. Why is this government, once again, bringing the guillotine of closure and limiting debate?”
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“Mr. Speaker, I understand what my colleague is saying; it is understandable. Various faith groups have expressed concerns about Bill C‑9 , such as the leadership for the Catholic bishops in Canada and others from the Abrahamic faiths. Can the member explain why those views and concerns on Bill C‑9 should be discounted?”
“Mr. Speaker, this is obviously a very divisive issue. There are some parts of Bill C-9 that various communities support. There is also a wide range of issues within Bill C-9 that communities do not support. The leadership of the Abrahamic faiths, for example, has come out very strongly against parts of Bill C-9, especially around religious freedom. I wonder if my colleague could comment on the government's unwillingness to listen to anything besides the narrow confines of its interests rather than to the larger faith community.”
“Madam Speaker, we listened to the Liberals earlier, especially the member for Winnipeg North , bash and attack anyone who disagrees with Bill C-9 , actually in fear that they are all far right, right-wing, crazy white supremacists if they oppose the government on this. However, we have seen the leadership of all the Abrahamic faiths in Canada oppose big parts of Bill C-9 . I wonder if my colleague agrees that perhaps there is more to this issue that needs to be studied and that we should not just label everyone who opposes it as being racist, as the Liberals seem to be doing.”
“Madam Speaker, I should use this time to finish my speech on Bill C-269 . However, I have a simple question. We have late-night sittings, and we have plenty of time. Why is this government, once again, bringing the guillotine of closure and limiting debate? Canadians sent us here to debate the issues, not have the government shut down debate. To the hon. member opposite, why is he doing this again?”
“Yet, when the Liberals have a chance to support a common-sense bill that would help Canadians, encourage investment in Canada and reduce greenhouse gases, we hear government members stand up and speak against it. Bill C-269 is a very simple, common-sense bill. It would introduce a non-refundable investment tax credit for equipment that captures waste heat from industrial processes and converts it into electricity. I am afraid that is all the time I have at this moment. I look forward to speaking more on it after the votes.”
“Madam Speaker, I am very pleased to rise in support of this fantastic bill from my colleague from Calgary Centre . It is very disappointing to hear members of the Liberal government look at a very strong, common-sense piece of legislation and, of course, throw it away. It is interesting to hear them complain about costs. This is, of course, from the same Liberal government that funded, through its green energy accelerator fund, companies that used that funding to go abroad and actually fund ISIS. Yes, a company that was convicted in France and in the U.S. of using that funding to actually fund ISIS, this Liberal government gave tens of millions of dollars to. Under the same fund, it gave tens of millions of dollars to an overseas Chinese EV company that was named as a war sponsor supporting Putin's invasion of Ukraine.”
“Madam Speaker, I wonder if my colleague could clarify what the actual cost would be. We have heard the government talk about billions of dollars, whereas he countered that it would be quite a bit less. What would the cost to the taxpayer be if these credits were enacted in Canada?”
“Mr. Speaker, it has been well over a year since the Liberal government received evidence that federally funded infrastructure projects were using illegal and trafficked labour, violating funding agreements and leaving legitimate trades workers on the sidelines, unemployed. The Liberal response since then has been crickets. When will the Liberals stop funding projects that are using illegal, trafficked labourers and instead ensure the work goes to legitimate Canadian trades workers?”
“Mr. Speaker, here we have on display peak Liberal hypocrisy. Only the member for Winnipeg North can spend his entire speech complaining about wasting time instead of actually doing something besides wasting time and addressing Bill C‑25 . There were issues around foreign interference that the Liberals knew about in one of their ridings, where Han Dong was chosen as a Liberal candidate. It was noted in the Hogue commission. Why is there nothing in Bill C‑25 that would address the foreign interference in so many Liberal nominations?”
“Mr. Speaker, I take great offence at the member's calling me “moderate” as chair. It hurts me to my soul. One of the Liberals' campaign promises was that they would cut municipal development charges in half. In Alberta, B.C. and across the country, this has not happened. Why has the Liberal government broken its promise again?”
“Mr. Speaker, we do miss the member on the government operations committee. He is welcome to come back anytime. He talked about how the plan has support for affordable housing, but the Parliamentary Budget Officer states that, with all the billions of dollars in spending, the government is expected to build only 13,000 low-income units, and that, further, the money would come from stripping money from the affordable housing fund and other supports for at-risk Canadians. Why would the government punishing vulnerable Canadians and spend money on an added bureaucracy that would create only 13,000 new homes?”
“Mr. Speaker, the Liberals campaigned on reducing municipal fees. In fact, I quote from their campaign: They said they would be “cutting municipal development charges in half”. CMHC just recently came out with a report warning of a very significant barrier to building housing, caused by high municipal development fees. The government has not, in fact, even approached reducing or started to reduce municipal fees. I wonder if my colleague could comment on this Liberal broken promise and how it is not helping Canadians in getting the houses they need.”
“Mr. Speaker, I have a quote from Mike Moffatt, who is acknowledged as one of the leading experts on the housing crisis. He comments on the program, saying, “Canada has a substantial shortage of three-bedroom and larger homes, and the need for our cities to densify, [but this program's] prioritization of small, low-rise homes is a peculiar choice.” Why is the government making a peculiar choice to help build the wrong type of houses, not what Canadians are looking for?”
“Mr. Speaker, the Parliamentary Budget Officer put out a report commenting that the government was stripping away services to the vulnerable via housing benefits and social housing in order to fund another bureaucracy. I wonder what the member thinks about the government taking money away from the most vulnerable to fund another bureaucracy that is going to produce, as the PBO says, only “a modest amount” of new housing.”
“Madam Speaker, we just heard from the member for Winnipeg North , who has sat in the House, in government, for 11 years but has done nothing to crack down on crime. The Liberals brought in Bill C‑5 and Bill C‑75 , which do everything within their power to put violent criminals back out on the streets, yet now he hectors Conservatives for not doing enough for the Liberals while they are in government. What does the member think of the government's pontificating again about being tough on crime?”
“Sam, Jack, Luke, Tavin and Walter, along with their coaches, Kevin, Shawn and Angela, are exactly the innovators our future needs. Congratulations to Team Gladius. They have made Edmonton, Alberta and Canada proud.”
“Mr. Speaker, I rise to recognize five extraordinary young Edmontonians who are proudly representing Alberta and Canada on the world stage. Team Gladius from the River City Robotics club competed in the FIRST Tech Challenge, where students design, build and program their own robots from the ground up. In just their second season, these students engineered an award-winning robot and won the Inspire Award, which is the competition's highest award. That victory carried them to the FIRST world championships in Houston as one of only 14 teams from Canada competing, and they did not go to just watch. They won multiple matches against the very best teams in the world, which are much older and much more experienced teams.”
“I am looking around for the other grey hairs. There are a few of us. Paul Anka is a wonderful gentleman, and yes, I think he is probably the most famous Canadian of Syrian ancestry. Sarah goes on to say, “there were others; many of whom we must consider 'Old Stock Canadians.'” I think she makes a reference just to show how long people of Syrian heritage and Arab history have been in Canada. It goes back to, as we heard earlier, the beginning of Confederation. She continues, “Somewhat less well known, for example, but still very popular in his day, was 'Canada’s King of the Fiddle,' Ameen 'King' Ganam, born in Swift Current in 1914.” I am aging myself. I actually remember who “King” Ganam was. I see I am getting the wave that my time is up. I will come back to finish my last two minutes with the story about “King” Ganam and Tommy Hunter.”
“Salloum's books concluded with a great comment, as Sarah Carter wrote, “'The saga of the Arab immigrants is truly the story of Canada.' He feared they were being forgotten, as those with Arab heritage sought to assimilate. He hoped 'fellow Canadians and others, after reading our family’s saga will feel that Arab Canadians have contributed to Canada’s history.'” I encourage people to read that book. Those are very strong words from Mr. Salloum. I want to just start with some of the story that Sarah had written about Arabs in Canada, especially Syrians. She starts off with “Syrians have a long history in Canada. Paul Anka is perhaps the best known Canadian of Syrian ancestry.” I look around the House, perhaps at my colleague from Abbotsford with his love of Arab food. He is so young that I am not sure if he knows who Paul Anka is.”
“He is an incredible community leader and has raised an incredible family. To this day, even though he is considerably older than me, he still stays very active in the community, helping newcomers, helping Canadians and helping Edmontonians. Again, I wanted to thank both of them for all the incredible work they have done. Now, for the rest of my few minutes I have, I am going to plagiarize and read from a story by someone at the U of A, Sarah Carter. She is a professor there. I found some of the stories she was telling about Syrians coming to western Canada. One of her favourite authors is a gentleman named Habeeb Salloum. My colleague from Abbotsford may like this. Mr. Salloum was famous for writing books, including Arab Cooking on a Prairie Homestead . One of Mr.”
“We have people contacting our office from around the entire province, knowing that Oula is the one to help. She is considered by all of our offices in Alberta as the most senior, most educated and most experienced person to help out on so many files. Oula has just returned to our office after very lengthy challenges, and I cannot express how happy we are that she is back with us. I know that my constituents express that exact same feeling. My predecessor, in part of my riding, the hon. Laurie Hawn, used to say about the constituency staff and the MPs that the MP is just the hood ornament and the constituency staff is the engine of the car. Oula is a phenomenally strong-running V8 engine in that comparison. (1815) The other one I want to mention specifically is Oula's father, Dean Sanduga. Dean, of course, also hails from Palestine.”
“As my colleague mentioned, we could spend all day talking about contributions from the Arab community in Canada, but I want to mention a couple of dear friends of mine whom I have known for many years. The first is my office manager, Oula Sanduga. I know she is probably back in Edmonton right now planning my demise for mentioning her and talking about her in the House, because she is a bit shy. I have had the pleasure of working with Oula for 10 years in my office. Before working with me, she worked for the hon. Laurie Hawn, and before that, Peter Goldring. Oula hails, originally, from Palestine. She is a very proud Palestinian. I am very proud to have her with us. Over the 30 years she has worked in MP offices, she has helped untold thousands of Canadians, whether it is with CRA issues, EI issues or especially immigration issues.”
“I know that my colleague from Edmonton Manning , whom I would like to call by his name but I will not, will live up to Mr. Shaben as well. The very first Arab recorded in Alberta was in 1912, known as Ali Ahmed Abouchadi, who was also from Lebanon. He and his uncle, Sine Abouchadi, moved from Lebanon and settled in Lac La Biche, which is now, I think, probably the largest Arab community in the entire world and the largest Lebanese community in the entire world, including Lebanon itself. It is a phenomenal community north of Edmonton that I have had the pleasure of visiting many times. It still maintains incredible Lebanese culture. I also want to talk about a couple of friends of mine from Edmonton.”
“Larry Shaben was the very first Muslim elected to higher office in North America. That was in Alberta. He was also the very first to serve as a provincial minister in Canada, even when compared to, perhaps, the equivalent in the U.S. He served as a minister under the great Peter Lougheed, as well as Don Getty. I want to read a quote from Peter Lougheed about Larry Shaben, at Mr. Shaben's funeral: “We all know how much better we are because we knew Larry Shaben. We all know how much better Alberta as a whole is because of Larry Shaben.” I cannot think of a better tribute from one of the greatest Albertans ever to one of the other greatest Albertans than the one Mr. Lougheed made to Mr. Shaben. I wanted to bring that up.”
“Mr. Speaker, I am pleased to rise on this. I want to start by mentioning two historic Arab Albertans involved in politics. The first is my very dear friend, whom I call my brother. He is the member for Edmonton Manning . My friend was the very first Lebanese MP ever elected in the province of Alberta. Besides his being a phenomenal representative of the people, I have come to know his family very well. It is an incredible family. My dear friend also donated one of his vital organs to help save his son's life, which is further proof of what a fine gentleman he is. One of his sons later worked for me on a couple of my campaigns and did a phenomenal job, and then moved on to help out the provincial party in Alberta as well. If I could find an Arab politician to live up to my colleague from Edmonton Manning , it would be Larry Shaben.”
“Mr. Speaker, the member makes a great point. The Canadian economy is shrinking. Mexico has a far greater reliance on U.S. trade than Canada does, and its economy is not shrinking. In fact, its auto industry exports to the U.S. are double what they are in Canada, yet somehow Mexico is managing to grow its economy with the same issues we have. What it does not have holding it back is a Liberal government.”
“Mr. Speaker, as I mentioned earlier, the Canadian Chamber of Commerce, in a submission to the finance committee, laid it out. They stated that the current environment imposed on businesses by this government makes investment unwelcome. Canada needs to change. We need tax reform, and we need regulatory reform. As the Chamber of Commerce has stated, we need to fix our regulatory regime. We need tax reform. We need the government to stop standing here and pretending that all these announcements are serving Canadians. It actually needs to take action.”
“Mr. Speaker, my colleague brought up a lot of great points. The Prime Minister twice promised to get a deal done by last summer. Twice, he has not delivered. The best thing we can do for my colleagues from Quebec and their constituents is deliver a deal. The government has failed to do so, despite repeated promises by the Prime Minister.”
“Mr. Speaker, I would like to thank my colleague from Winnipeg North for fiction hour in the House of Commons. What has the government delivered in over 10 years? It is not a new government. It is the same old, tired Liberal government. It has delivered rising unemployment, record debt, record deficit and record Canadians at food banks. The government has delivered an economy that requires us to have two food banks just to serve veterans in Edmonton. That is what this 10-year-old tired, corrupt Liberal government has delivered for Canadians.”
“We could get rid of the costly industrial carbon tax and the unconstitutional “no new pipelines” bill, Bill C-69 . If we want northern gateway to get built, which could add tens of billions of dollars of added growth to the economy, the government needs to get out of the way. It needs to kill Bill C-48 , the anti-Alberta tanker ban. It needs to kill Bill C-69 . It needs to get rid of the oil and gas emissions cap. We need to get rid of the government's determination to wreck our economy.”
“They changed regulations on the Wheat Board elections for the board of directors of a Wheat Board that does not exist anymore. How are we going to grow the economy if this is the best the government can do? We could get our energy products to market. We could build pipelines. We could get rid of the oil and gas emissions cap. The government will say that we do not have that anymore, but it has not come out and said that the cap is dead. We could get rid of the anti-Alberta tanker ban, Bill C-48 . We have a private member's bill before this House right now to eliminate the tanker ban, and Liberals are opposing it. It is perfectly fine to have Saudi Arabia oil come up the St. Lawrence, but we cannot have Alberta oil off the north B.C. coast.”
“For major projects, it is same thing, adding more bureaucracy to work around the other bureaucracy it created. Further, the government created another bureaucracy for red tape reduction, and 34 full-time equivalents were added to the bureaucracy to cut red tape. We submitted an Order Paper question asking what the government managed to cut for regulations. With 34 full-time employees, we ended up with 29 regulations repealed. Here are some of them. They repealed UN regulations regarding Sierra Leone. Wow, that is going to grow the economy. They cut regulations on corded window covering products. They cut regulations regarding board elections for the Wheat Board, years after the Wheat Board went away. This is what 34 full-time employees managed to do over a period of a couple of years to cut red tape.”
“The Chamber of Commerce, just recently in a submission to the finance committee, said that the government needs to focus on competitiveness, and that we cannot compete globally because of a regulatory and red tape regime that is seen as cumbersome and anti-investment. We have well over 300,000 different rules and regulations, over 450 different acts, sometimes with thousands of regulations per act that are tying up and slowing our economic growth. What does the government do? Well, normal governments around the world would perhaps say, “Well, let us reduce red tape. Let us cut some of the red tape.” We know defence procurement is a mess, but instead of actually addressing it, the government created another bureaucracy to work around its own rules that it created.”
“This is not a way to grow out of the troubles we are in, by just simply borrowing more money and spending more money. Over the next five years, we are going to have almost $400 billion just in interest payments. What are we getting for it? We are not getting growth, like the one we see in the other countries. We are seeing a shrinking economy. What do we do about this? Well, apart from joining Marty McFly and Doc Brown, getting into a DeLorean and going back to 2015 to ensure that Trudeau does not get elected, we can change the policies now. We can start undoing the Liberal policies that are wrecking the economy.”
“I ask the member for Winnipeg North whom he believes. Does he believe the Bank of Canada, as he just stated he does, or does he not now, when it is not convenient for him? Even the Bank of Canada does not believe the government when it says that we are the fastest-growing economy in the G7. We are not. (1305) Further, which is even more sobering, for 2026, of the anemic growth that we have under the Liberal government, the Bank of Canada is saying 75% is from added government spending. It is not from exporting oil, perhaps, and not from IP or investment, but from government spending. In 2027, 44% of the growth in the forecast is government spending. The year after, 25% of all the growth that the Bank of Canada is seeing in GDP is coming from government spending.”
“Further, the last four years have seen this decline accelerate, matching about four years ago when the current Prime Minister started helping the government as a special economic adviser. What a coincidence, I know. More sobering news is from the Bank of Canada monetary policy report. The member for Winnipeg North just previously was saying that the Liberals believe in the Bank of Canada and that the Bank of Canada has all the information, and he asked if we did not believe in the Bank of Canada. Well, I believe in the Bank of Canada monetary policy report, which actually shows that the government is misleading Canadians on growth. The Bank of Canada is predicting, next year, a 16% lower GDP growth than the government just did in its spring budget. The year after that, it is predicting a 13% lower growth.”
“We are in fact the only economy that has shrunk in the last four quarters in the G7. No one else has: not the U.S., not Germany, which continues on its path to net-zero economic suicide, and not Italy, without all the oil resources we have, but just us. Again, think of the old world, the G7, and all the issues they are having with the Ukraine war and being cut off from their natural gas resources, and yet somehow they have avoided a recession like ours. This GDP issue reflects our stagnating standard of living and anemic productivity growth and highlights our weakness in business investments. According to the Fraser Institute, investment in plants, machinery equipment and IP has fallen 20% as a share of the economy in the last 10 years. I wonder what happened 10 years ago that would cause us to be on such a decline.”
“In Edmonton alone, we have two separate food banks just serving veterans. Those who have served our country in the military, but also RCMP, have two separate food banks to serve them, just for them to get by. At the same time, we have the Prime Minister spending close to $200,000 for gourmet meals on his jet just for three trips, while the Liberals are spending $200 million for Liberal insiders for a concrete pad, a cement pad, in Nova Scotia. Canada has entered recession territory. The Liberals will quibble and say that it is only a technical recession and really does not count, but the economy is shrinking: not just the last two quarters, but three of the last four quarters. We are the only G7 country with a shrinking economy. In fact, even basket cases like France and Italy do not have shrinking economies.”
“Mr. Speaker, I am very pleased to rise today on our motion. Food Banks Canada had a stark warning, and this is a stark quote from its most recent report: “Something fundamental has shifted in Canada.” It goes on to further say that, in Canada, “a job is no longer enough to ensure a reliable pathway to stability.” One in four Canadians is facing food insecurity, and 20% of the 2.2 million lining up every month at food banks are employed. I am going to read again that line from the report: in Canada, “a job is no longer enough to ensure a reliable pathway to stability.” That is what over a decade of the Liberal government has inflicted upon Canada. Something has fundamentally changed in this country, and it has fundamentally changed for the worse because of the government.”
“Mr. Speaker, when we listen to the Liberal government, we get the same message: Canadians have never had it so good. We have 2.2 million Canadians going to food banks every month. We have out-of-control crime. We have the only shrinking economy in the G7. We have the only shrinking economy among Canada, the U.S. and Mexico. About one-quarter of Canadians are living with food insecurity right now under the Liberal government. Does the member think Canadians have never had it so good, as the Liberals are claiming?”
“I wonder if my colleague could expand a bit on his talk about how the government needs to stop blaming the U.S. for political gain and start working to improve the economy and exports, much like Mexico has.”
“Madam Speaker, my colleague from Mirabel's passion is exceeded only by his knowledge on this subject. I understand the member's point about measuring and calling a recession, but we have to set numbers somewhere. The fact is that Canada's economy has contracted for three of the last four quarters. Not a single country in the G7 has had a contraction in the economy in the last four quarters. The government, we hear constantly, is blaming it on the trade war with the U.S. Mexico, which is more reliant by a fair amount on trade with the U.S. than Canada is, has actually seen its exports to the U.S. rise. Mexico, which is, again, more reliant on the U.S., has not fallen into a recession or a contraction in its economy, unlike Canada.”
“What better way is there to fight against the Trump tariffs and the economic uncertainty than building this in Canada now?”
“Who is going to spend that to develop a pipeline to nowhere, as the government is proposing, with $20 billion just for the carbon capture, on top of perhaps another $15 billion to get a pipeline to the coast, only to have the Liberal government say no to Alberta oil off the B.C. coast”? At the same time, the same Liberal government allows hundreds of oil tankers up and down the St. Lawrence and off the east coast, while in B.C., where we have never had a single major spill, the government, not for scientific reasons or financial reasons but for purely ideological reasons, is saying no to bringing Alberta oil to off the B.C. coast. The private member's bill would end the tanker ban off the B.C. coast and would bring untold wealth to the country when we need it and energy sovereignty when we need it.”
“Mr. Speaker, I am very pleased to rise to support the private member's bill concerning Bill C-48 . It is mind-boggling to watch the government continue to deny Alberta, and to also deny the facts around the system and the facts around the issue of the incredible contribution that the energy industry makes to Canadian finances and will make in the future as well. We have seen reports that say that losing the northern gateway has cost Canada $20 billion in lost revenue since the Liberal government cancelled it. The Liberals wonder who is going to bring a new pipeline to Canada and invest billions of dollars. The government wants industry to spend an extra $20 billion for carbon capture.”
“Mr. Speaker, my colleague mentioned that the government was focusing on what it can control. The government controls all of the gas taxes, such as the industrial carbon tax and the GST on both diesel and regular gas. If it is only focusing on what it can control, why does it not reduce all of the taxes, as we have suggested in this motion?”
“On the grocery rebate, when we actually include two working parents at minimum wage, they do not qualify. The government spent years claiming that the carbon tax was not inflationary. Why does the member now, after so many times saying the gas tax was not inflationary—”
“Mr. Speaker, Tolstoy said, “Truth, like gold, is to be obtained not by its growth, but by washing away from it all that is not gold.” Let us wash away everything that is not gold from the member's speech and look at the truth. Well, that is right, we washed away, and there is nothing. We have sat and listened to a master class of 20 minutes of disinformation from the Liberal government. I will be upfront here. We tease back and forth with the member for Winnipeg North all the time, and I quite enjoy jousting with him, quite good-naturedly. However, I have to say I am disappointed by some of his terms in accusing us of being far right. I will comment on a few of his claims. The member goes on at length about the school food program for 400,000 children. However, there are 5.4 million children who are not covered by it.”
“Mr. Speaker, I would like to thank my colleague from Winnipeg West; we share the “west” part of our ridings. I appreciate the member's speech and I honestly believe that he means well, he cares for people and he is not out here pushing the government's slogans. One of the issues he brought up was the grocery rebate. The way it is formulated, if we have a husband and wife, a mother and father, or two adults with up to four kids earning pennies above minimum wage in Manitoba, they would be earning too much and would not receive the grocery rebate. The way the government has it set up pushes most of the rebate into the hands of single earners, single families without children. Can my colleague comment on that being the government's priority, not helping low-income families, which is the way the program is set up?”
“Mr. Speaker, of course, I disagree with the member from the Green Party. We probably disagree on everything. I think she needs to leave the past behind and, like Marty McFly, go back to the future and understand that Canada is in a different spot right now. We need to get the pipelines built. We need to build in Canada, to serve Canadians.”