Gord Johns
Courtenay—Alberni, British Columbia · NDP · Canada
“Mr. Speaker, we recall that the United Nations special rapporteur warned that Canada's temporary foreign worker program can create conditions resembling modern-day slavery. Last month, the San Group, a company operating in Port Alberni, was fined $429,000 and banned for two years for serious violations involving migrant workers.”
“Mr. Speaker, as I highlighted earlier, a Port Alberni company was fined $429,000 for its violation in its treatment of migrant workers, and it was given a two-year ban. Clearly, two years is not enough. The company operates other companies, and the rumour is that it actually has temporary foreign workers working for them as well.”
“Mr. Speaker, I want to bring us back to a part of the conversation in which my colleague talked about the government's removing regulations on dangerous pesticides. Just last week, the Prime Minister announced his food security strategy, and the Liberals are removing important regulations that protect Canadians regarding pesticides.”
“Temporary foreign workers are often hired without the labour market opinion having been done in the right way. Workers who are looking for work are not getting hired. We hear in my riding about abuses of workers by employers, but there is no follow-up. There is nothing. When workers are in trouble, they are not supported.”
“I would like to hear from my colleague about whether, when food security and food sovereignty matter more than ever, my colleague sees the importance of the government's pausing its changes on these regulations, pausing these cuts and actually working with farmers to protect Canada's public agricultural research system?”
“Mr. Speaker, I want to thank all my colleagues for allowing that to happen. Today is Brain Injury Awareness Day. It is an honour to table this petition on behalf of the families impacted by 165,000 new cases annually of brain injury in our country.”
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“It asks that we support a massive bitumen pipeline from Alberta to the north coast of British Columbia, along with the suspension of the Oil Tanker Moratorium Act, and it asks that we do so without the consent of indigenous rights and title holders and without the support of the Province of British Columbia or of the coastal communities that would bear the full risk of an oil spill. We have been here before, of course. First nations on the coast have consistently opposed crude oil tanker proposals for more than 50 years. They participated fully in the National Energy Board's joint review panel for the failed northern gateway project. Their answer was a definitive and principled no. That has not changed.”
“Mr. Speaker, first I want to thank my colleague from Battlefords—Lloydminster—Meadow Lake for sharing her time today. I rise today, as members know, as a member of Parliament for a coastal riding in British Columbia, as the NDP critic for Fisheries and Oceans, and also as a parliamentarian with a responsibility to uphold indigenous rights. Each of these roles carries a duty to speak plainly about risk to our marine ecosystems and to the coastal and indigenous communities whose livelihoods depend on healthy oceans. Decisions taken in the House do not exist in the abstract; they carry real and lasting consequences for people who work on the water, harvest from it, steward it and depend on it for their very survival. It is for that reason that the motion before us today, as well as the MOU, is so alarming.”
“The petitioners call on the government to support motion M-12 to create an office of the national fire administration or a fire liaison. This is supported by the Canadian Association of Fire Chiefs. I hope all members will support the petition.”
“Mr. Speaker, it is an honour today to table petition e-6745, which was signed by 747 Canadians. Petitioners cite that Canada has around 3,200 fire departments, of which approximately 80% rely solely on volunteer firefighters; that the scale and complexity of events Canadian fire services are expected to respond to have increased dramatically in recent years, and that trend is anticipated to continue; that all levels of government in Canada are involved in aspects of fire and emergency management; that collaboration and strategic coordination are necessary to prepare for major emergencies and ensure efficient use of resources; and that there is a need to integrate a fire and emergency management perspective into policy and into decision-making for other issues, including but not limited to housing, green technology, transportation, tariffs, first responder mental health, and defence.”
“I would like my colleague and the Liberals to tell us this: Are they going to step in, enforce the Canada Health Act and stop this dangerous push toward a two-tier health care system?”
“Mr. Speaker, as much as I would like to do the back-and-forth here, I am hearing from constituents in my riding who are deeply concerned about the privatization of health care. They expect health care to be based on need, not the thickness of their wallets. We saw in Alberta the scheme to let doctors jump between the public system and a pay-to-access private stream that shreds the spirit of our universal health care system and violates the Canada Health Act. This will pull doctors out of public hospitals, drive up wait times and drag us toward an American-style system. Both the Canadian and Alberta medical associations and frontline physicians are sounding the alarm.”
“Mr. Speaker, it is critical that we plug economic leakages right now. In 2010, the Conservatives scrapped the 25% tariff on foreign-built ferries, claiming Canadian shipyards could not compete. The Liberals made that mistake permanent in 2016. Since then, ferry contracts and good jobs have gone overseas while communities like Port Alberni on Vancouver Island lack the dry dock capacity for shipbuilding, maintenance, repair and recycling. Reinstating this tariff would level the playing field and generate revenue to build that capacity here at home. Does my colleague agree that the government should reverse this mistake and reinstate the tariff to support Canadian workers and Canadian shipyards?”
“They call on Canada to support them and insist on safe and immediate entry for Canadian health care workers and other international humanitarian personnel to Palestine; to withhold Canadian funding from any entity or model that does not comply with the principles of neutrality, impartiality, independence and humanity; and to ensure that all Canadian aid to Gaza is delivered through internationally recognized humanitarian channels.”
“Mr. Speaker, I am tabling this petition that was collected by Doctors Against Genocide. They state that under common article 1 of the Geneva Conventions, Canada is required to respect international humanitarian law. The petitioners highlight that under article 59 of the fourth Geneva Convention, Israel as an occupying power must allow and facilitate humanitarian aid by impartial organizations. Canada's own international assistance accountability act requires that all Canadian foreign aid uphold human rights and international legal standards, and Israel's policy and actions violate all of these obligations. The petitioners demand the full restoration of access to UN agencies and established humanitarian NGOs, including UNRWA and the World Food Programme.”
“Mr. Speaker, coastal communities are running out of time. Key federal programs to protect wild salmon and restore critical habitat expire in March, and they were not included in this budget. The government still has not confirmed their renewal, and communities cannot wait for a spring economic statement. On the west coast, wild salmon are vital for food security, culture, the ecosystem and the economy. First nations, hatcheries and restoration groups are doing the work, but they cannot plan without federal certainty. It is essential that we not take our foot off the gas. Will the minister renew these essential programs now?”
“Madam Speaker, we see how these trade deals have played out, and we want to make sure we have trade deals that support workers. We see right now big oil, big banks and big grocery posting record profits while people get squeezed at the till and at the pump when they try to cover their costs. The Brits charge an excess profit on the runaway greed of oil and gas companies. Will the Liberal government finally tackle the runaway corporate greed and create an excess profit tax, like Britain did?”
“Mr. Speaker, coastal communities are running out of time. Key federal programs that protect wild salmon and restore critical habitat expire in March, and they were not in the budget. The federal government has not confirmed their renewal, and communities cannot wait for a spring economic statement. On the west coast, wild salmon are vital for food security, culture, the ecosystem and the economy. First nations, hatcheries and restoration groups are doing the work, but they cannot plan without federal certainty. It is essential that we do not take our foot off the gas. Does my colleague agree with how critical these programs are and that it is critical the federal government fund these programs and restore funding immediately?”
“Mr. Speaker, our health care system is already stretched, yet the federal government piles on needless work. The College of Family Physicians warns that the disability tax credit form is worsening the strain and costing patients access to care. Instead of fixing it, budget 2025 allocates $10 million to help people navigate the same broken system. Provinces already determine disability eligibility. Why will the minister not automatically accept provincial approval for the disability tax credit to reduce barriers and let family doctors focus on patient care?”
“Mr. Speaker, in 2021, the Zim Kingston lost over 100 shipping containers. In 2016, the Hanjin Seattle spilled dozens, and now a barge off Bella Bella has nearly gone down with a full load. Each time, first nations and local communities are left to respond and face lasting impacts. The Transportation Safety Board says that Canada still has no system for cargo unit or marine debris spills. When will the government act on these recommendations and create a coordinated response system that includes coastal communities, backed by an ecosystem service fee on cargo units so industry can help protect our coasts?”
“They call on the Government of Canada to immediately withdraw Bill C-2 in full, uphold the elbows-up promises to reject Trump-style policies, ensuring that immigration, security and private legislation reflect our nation's commitment to democracy and human rights, honour the responsibility of elected offices and affirm our charter, not trample it.”
“Madam Speaker, I apologize. It is an honour to table this petition on behalf of petitioners from my riding of Courtenay—Alberni. They highlight that the Prime Minister made the “elbows up” promise to defend Canadian sovereignty and democracy, and distinguish Canada from the dangerous politics of the United States. They highlight that Bill C-2 appears as a Trojan Horse for sweeping surveillance policies, expanding police access to personal data without warrants, lowering privacy thresholds to reasonable grounds, weakening protections on international data sharing, and allowing Canada Post to open private mail. This legislation, as is, is offensive and undemocratic. The petitioners also highlight that Bill C-2 tramples on our Charter of Rights and Freedoms and puts Canada on a dangerous path to xenophobia and racism.”
“Madam Speaker, I rise on behalf of petitioners for my riding of Courtenay—Alberni. I am honoured to table this petition today. The petitioners say that Prime Minister Carney made the “elbows up” promise to defend Canadian sovereignty and democracy, and distinguish Canada from the dangerous politics of the United States. Bill C-2 , they highlight, appears as a Trojan Horse for sweeping surveillance policies, expanding police access to personal data without warrants—”
“They got out of the way, but they had a plan with a timeline and they put in the resources to take on the crisis. They went from over 1,000 people dying to 70 people dying each year, so we know we can do it—”
“Mr. Speaker, I want to thank my colleague for showing such passion on a critical issue that is costing the lives of Canadians. We have heard from chief medical health officers, chief corners, chiefs of police, the First Nations Health Authority and Moms Stop the Harm. They have all been consistent in saying that we need to get politicians out of the way. We need to support evidence-based and expert-led policy, not ideology, and we need to move rapidly. Does my colleague agree that it is time for politicians to get out of the way? In Portugal, that is the big success story. Politicians got out of the way, and they supported the experts in implementing a policy that supported treatment on demand, recovery, prevention and drug replacement therapy. This was led by experts, not politicians.”
“Mr. Speaker, clearly this was not an NDP budget. I promised I would go home and listen to the constituents. I talked to all nine mayors in my riding, three regional district chairs and 17 elected chief councillors in my riding. All of them were unanimous in that they said not to vote against the budget and not to bring down the government. That was what they said, although almost all of them opposed this budget. This is like Stephen Harper in 2005, Jack Layton in 2006 and Ignatieff and Dion, when they abstained to not bring down the government right after an election because they were told by Canadians that Canadians did not want an election. In fact, they told us to work together. That is what I heard from my constituents and that is what we need to start doing more of here.”
“It is the leading cause of death under the age of 59 in my home province of British Columbia. The federal government has failed to lead when it comes to tackling this crisis that is affecting people right across this country.”
“Mr. Speaker, I want to thank my colleague, who has been working closely with me on mental health issues for many years. We both understand that the Canadian government has a document for a Canadian substitute strategy. It says we have a coordinated, integrated, compassionate approach, but guess what. There is no plan with a timeline and no money behind it. It means nothing without that, absolutely nothing. It is pie in the sky. What the government needs to do is roll out a plan. The government had an auto theft summit. I am not saying auto theft is not important, but the fact that the government has never had a summit on the toxic drug crisis demonstrates the stigma right there. It demonstrates the stigma of the government not seeing this crisis as the crisis it truly is.”
“Mr. Speaker, my concern is not about the influence over the official opposition, but over the government. The government is the one who brought in draconian legislation like Bill C-5 , which the Conservatives would never even have dreamt of bringing forward. Of course they support it, because they know that it tramples indigenous rights and it overrides provincial governments and their aspirations. We have continually seen the Liberals run with an agenda that is a Conservative, Trumpian, Republican agenda. I cannot even imagine what has happened to the Liberal Party. Today's announcement on pipelines was a perfect example of trampling rights and responsibility. It is unbelievable to see the government's approach and its failure in its fiduciary responsibility when it comes to first nations people and Canadians.”
“All that has to happen is for the government, instead of investing $10 million in this budget to help people get $150 to go pay a doctor to fill out the forms, to say that if a person gets disability in their province or territory, they automatically qualify for the disability tax credit. That would seem to make sense, especially with a health care system that is way beyond capacity. We need to be innovative. We need to reduce red tape. We need to support people living on disabilities.”
“We often hear Conservatives talk about the need for B.C. ferries to be built in this country. The former Conservative finance minister basically said, in 2010, that these ferries should not be built here, and he removed a 25% tariff that was meant to be in place, to be there as a barrier so that ships were built in Canada instead of outside the country. In fact, those ferries were built in Poland. Those ferries should have been built in Canada, and that tariff should never have been removed. Lastly, I am going to talk about the disability tax credit. Over 250,000 disability tax credit forms were processed in 2022. This amounts to about 250,000 hours of family physicians' time. This was highlighted in the College of Family Physicians of Canada recently.”
“Nobody is left untouched by the mental health crisis that is happening. It does not have to be this way. Right now, provincial and territorial governments are spending half what is being spent in the OECD on mental health. It is costing the Canadian economy. This is an economic, nation-building, important investment that needs to happen right across this country. We need parity with mental and physical health, and it needs to be legislated. There is still no mention of when the government is going to fund the salmon programs that are sunsetting at the end of March. Friendship centre agreements sunset in March. They cannot wait for an economic statement. There is no investment when it comes to ship recycling or shipbuilding on the west coast, despite the fact that we need capacity. It is absolutely critical.”
“Pharmacare was mentioned, but there is no commitment, despite the fact that the Pharmacare Act passed in the House. However, the Liberals still tout the pharmacare plan that they were going to deliver. There is no mention of the toxic drug crisis. Over 52,000 Canadians have died from a poisoned drug supply. We have the third-highest death rate per capita in the world from toxic drugs, despite the fact that we have seen other countries like Portugal take a holistic, integrated, coordinated approach to responding to their toxic drug crisis. On mental health, a Mental Health Commission report says unaddressed mental health issues are costing the Canadian economy $200 billion a year. This is impacting everybody, everybody in the House, everybody who has a constituent in their riding.”
“The government announced $13 billion for housing, but it still has not committed a percentage of that to be non-market or a percentage that will be geared to income, with a set amount for the threshold, which should be 30%. Where are we when it comes to housing? We are at 3.4%. England and France are at about 16% or 17%. Denmark is at 21%. The Netherlands are at 34%. They do not see the homelessness that we see here. They do not see what it looks like at 3.4%. Every MP can go to a centre in their community and see what 3.4% non-market housing looks like. There is homelessness like we have never seen. It is skyrocketing out-of-control homelessness. These are things that need to be addressed, and the government has failed to do that. There are many things missing.”
“That was a generational and transformational opportunity that would have met the Prime Minister 's needs. The government failed to do that. Instead, it is focusing on building pipelines that have no plan, no money behind them and no proponents. The Liberals are continuing to bring forward these ideas that failed under the previous Conservative government. The government killed the greener homes program that was employing contractors and labour right across this country. The government just killed a very successful program, one that was certainly helping reduce emissions. In terms of housing, the government has still not committed to an amount for co-op non-market housing. As a product of co-op housing, I know what it is like to have safe, secure and affordable housing.”
“What is happening right now in our country is that we are normalizing this out-of-control, raging corporate greed, and this is how it is playing out for everyday Canadians: The gap between the richest two-fifths of Canadians and the poorest two-fifths of Canadians has reached the widest level since Stats Canada started doing the work of recording it and collecting data. It is highlighted that the share of disposable income is primarily due to investment gains. That is what is driving it. This needs to be addressed, and in this budget, the government did nothing to address the corporate runaway greed that is taking place in this country. (1610) Also, when it comes to the climate emergency, we have a climate emergency happening. The government did not invest in a clean energy grid across this country like it could have.”
“Even Conservatives in Britain brought in an excess profit tax when the profits were so out of control, and I want people to win. I want small businesses to win. I want medium-sized businesses to win. I want large businesses to win. We all do, but it cannot be on the backs of everyday people when people struggling and suffering. It cannot be at their expense. It cannot be that they are preyed upon by companies that have control over the markets for the basic needs of everyday Canadians.”
“Whether it be at the pump, at the grocery till or when people are trying to access the Internet or get their basic cellphones covered, those prices are continuing to skyrocket, and also when they go to pay their rent or pay their mortgage. However, last year RBC made a record $16 billion. Bell made $6.3 billion. What did they do? They laid off 700 employees. Loblaws made over $2 billion, and Imperial Oil made almost $1 billion last quarter and $5 billion last year. What did they do? They also laid off almost 1,000 employees. That is the corporate responsibility and how it is playing out at the top for Canada's big corporations. In fact, we have the lowest corporate tax rate in the G7, and what else do we have? We have record profits.”
“Can members imagine chasing around a volunteer firefighter, when we know it still has not dealt with the Panama papers and the corporate misuse of the tax system with the tax havens that are out there? Instead, the CRA is spending its time chasing around volunteer firefighters like Ryan. Imagine a further cut at the CRA. Imagine cuts at Veterans Affairs. We saw the Conservatives cut a third of the staff at Veterans Affairs, and the disability application backlog grew to 50,000. This is not a time to cut the public service. This is a time to strengthen it, especially as the economy is struggling. We saw the government do nothing to deal with the corporate greed and the inflation crisis that is happening right now.”
“They are cutting 40,000 public servant jobs. I will give an idea of what that looks like. They started this austerity already. They cut 3,000 jobs at the CRA call centres. Ask anybody in the House what it looks like in our offices right now with the backlog of constituents calling our offices because they simply cannot get through to the CRA. However, the CRA has no problem finding people in this country when they owe it money. I will give an example. Ryan is a volunteer firefighter in Merville on Vancouver Island. He got chased because he got the new volunteer firefighter tax credit, which I helped fight for, which people in the House supported eventually and which the government adopted, but now the government is chasing Ryan around. Ryan spent his summer fighting wildfires.”
“Mr. Speaker, we heard the Prime Minister in the time before the budget. He said it was going to be a transformational and generational budget, but when he tabled the budget, he failed to address the critical issues that Canadians are facing today: the affordability crisis, the cost of living crisis and unemployment. We have seen the highest unemployment in a decade. There is a failure to deal with the climate crisis and the growing inequality in our country. I am going to speak about, obviously, the things that we do not like in the budget, things that are missing in the budget and things that we have been working on and have brought forward to the government that are possibly good. There are some things that we hope the government will follow through on. First, I am going to talk about the cuts to the public service.”
“Mr. Speaker, the Liberal government is trying to revive a failed bitumen pipeline from Alberta through B.C. that went nowhere under Stephen Harper's Conservatives and still has no first nation consent. Talks about ending the oil tanker ban to enable this scheme in an MOU without B.C. at the table and without coastal first nations involvement is harming a critical relationship in getting things done. Does the Prime Minister actually realize that pushing a project the coast has already fully rejected is breaking trust with coastal first nations?”
“Madam Speaker, Norway has $1.9 trillion in its sovereign wealth fund. It earned over $200 billion last year in dividends alone. That equates to about $340,000 per citizen. Alberta's heritage fund looks like it is making sure that nurses and teachers are not getting the fair wages they deserve. It attacks their private health care system. Last year, Imperial Oil earned $5 billion, and it laid off 900 staff. We have the lowest corporate tax rate in the G7. The member talked about the G7. Does he think things need to change and that the government needs to rein in corporate greed and rein in provinces that do not take care of their employees and workers, at a time when there are companies posting record profits and not even taking care of abandoned wells? We know that over $1 billion is needed to repair those wells right now.”
“This would save taxpayers $10 million and save a million visits for patients so doctors could actually be helping serve the Canadian public and taking the burden off our health care system. Does my colleague agree that this is the kind of innovation we need right now and that we need to stop wasting doctors' time and taxpayers' money?”
“Madam Speaker, I appreciate my colleague's talking about how the health care system is overburdened and there is too much bureaucracy. The College of Family Physicians of Canada has cited that approximately 250,000 disability tax credit forms were processed in 2022. It estimates that this amounts to about 250,000 hours of physician time lost, and a million patient visits as well, just for physicians to fill out disability tax credit forms. The budget amount is $10 million to help people with up to $150 each to do the form. Would it not just make sense for the government to recognize that if somebody qualifies as having a disability in their province or territory, they would automatically qualify for the disability tax credit?”
“Mr. Speaker, it is an honour to table what I hope is my final petition calling for a national aerial firefighting task force, which was included in the budget. The petitioners call on the government to work in partnership with the private sector to retrofit a portion of Canada's retired Lockheed CC-130 Hercules fleet; turn them into large air tankers for use in wildfire suppression across Canada; deploy these aircraft as part of a strengthened national wildfire response capacity to be shared with provinces and territories and, where appropriate, available for international humanitarian and emergency response missions; and prioritize this made-in-Canada solution, which leverages Canadian engineering and global expertise and delivers clear benefits for the public in protecting lives, communities and the environment.”
“Mr. Speaker, on its website, the College of Family Physicians of Canada cites that over 250,000 hours of family physicians' time, equivalent to about one million patient visits, is spent doing the disability tax credit form. In this budget, the Liberals would put $10 million aside to help pay for that. Would it not be easier if, instead of wasting $10 million of taxpayer money and a million hours of doctors' time, they would just honour somebody on disability in their province and territory to actually get the Canada disability benefit? It would be much simpler. Would it not make sense? Why do they not do that? The Liberals know that people do not have the energy and time, and they struggle to navigate the system, so they are denying them the benefits they deserve. Maybe my colleague can speak about this simple fix.”
“Petitioners are therefore calling on the Government of Canada to ensure fair, adequate and long-term funding for indigenous language programming so this vital work can continue before it is too late, and to fix the changes that affect indigenous languages, indigenous language speakers and preservation needed in British Columbia in particular.”
“Mr. Speaker, it is an honour to rise today to table a petition on behalf of Canadians who are deeply concerned about the future of indigenous languages. The petitioners draw the attention of the House to the fact that reconciliation requires urgent action to address the devastating loss of language and culture that indigenous peoples have experienced. Petitioners note that while more indigenous people are seeking to learn their languages, the number of fluent speakers continues to fall. They further raise concern that recent changes to federal funding, especially in British Columbia, put language preservation and revitalization at risk.”
“These leaders are showing what real stewardship looks like, but they cannot plan or expand their work without federal commitments. We cannot take our foot off the gas. The government must renew these programs now.”
“Mr. Speaker, coastal communities are running out of time. Key federal fisheries programs that protect Pacific salmon and repair critical habitats are set to expire in March, and the federal government has still not confirmed their renewal. Communities cannot wait until the next budget for answers. Across the coast of British Columbia, remarkable work is happening. First nations are leading salmon recovery and guardian programs. Local hatcheries and volunteer enhancement groups are restoring streams and rebuilding stocks. The salmon in the classroom program is educating thousands of students, and organizations such as Redd Fish Restoration Society and the Coastal Restoration Society are removing debris, protecting estuaries, and repairing damaged watersheds.”
“Mr. Chair, I want to thank my colleague. He has been an incredible champion for the forest products sector in Quebec. I work with him on the all-party forestry caucus on this very important issue. It has been a real pleasure. In terms of what we need to do and look at, we need to take an all-out approach. That could mean mass timber, ensuring that when we build houses in this country, we use Canadian-made wood. There is the biomass tax credit, using every opportunity to create value out of our fibre. What this really comes down to is that we need a negotiated settlement. That is what we are all talking about. It needs to be all hands on deck, and this sector needs to be prioritized, like every other sector that has been hit with Donald Trump's tariffs. That is not the case right now.”
“Mr. Chair, the federal government has created a federal industry national working group when it comes to steel and aluminum, but it still has not done that for forestry. It does not have a round table that includes workers and forest producers. That is completely ridiculous at this point in the game. We are asking for the federal government to create a softwood working group, a table that has the mandate to fast-track solutions on duties, liquidity and Canada's negotiating posture so we can finally get a secure, fair and durable softwood lumber agreement. Why is it taking so long for the government to bring this working group together?”
“Mr. Chair, we have seen the Liberals retaliate. We have seen them come back and fight back, but they are not leveraging when it comes to the forest sector and softwood lumber. Maybe the U.S. will target steel or go after auto and we will see the government fight back, but we are not seeing the same attitude when it comes to the softwood lumber industry. This dispute has been going on since 2017. It has been way too long. We do not hear the Prime Minister talk about it. How often have we heard him talk about softwood lumber when he comes back from Washington? I can say it is not once. He has not stood in Washington even once and said this is a top priority in his negotiations.”
“We need a more comprehensive, high-level negotiating framework, similar to what the EU has achieved, which could provide the leverage needed to resolve softwood and other long-standing issues. We need a team Canada approach. We need the government to act with urgency.”
“The Prime Minister continues to be in the U.S. talking about other sectors and not talking about forestry. Right now, we can look at the news, and the headline is about bailing out the steel industry. Well, I can assure members that it will not be the same as what he is offering the forestry sector. We know that, and we are going to continue to act in support of productive ideas, but we are also going to be propositional, as we were with the biomass tax credit, which will hopefully generate and unlock around $6 billion in investment. We all also need to make sure that team Canada and the U.S. are working collectively, together with major strategic interests, as we have with energy, critical minerals and continental supply chains, hydroelectric energy, softwood lumber and Arctic co-operation.”