Hilde Vautmans
Member of the European Parliament · Renew · BE
“Voorzitter, “take the deal and shut up”, dat was maandenlang de boodschap aan Europa van Trump, van zijn entourage en eerlijk gezegd ook van heel veel mensen hier in dit Parlement. Wel, Europa heeft geantwoord, niet op zijn knieën, maar met voorwaarden.”
“Mr President, Commissioner, colleagues, what a lively debate. I heard very good interventions. The first one, of course, from my colleague Sandro Gozi and then from Van Lanschot. Very good. I also heard some interventions which I didn't like. I don't know where to look, but it was more on that side.”
“And then last week we had the child born: we have the working group on a European army, here in this House. So for me, I just came back from Africa. There there is a lion, President, a lion. Let's have the political courage of a lion and decide on the European army. 2-0158-0000”
“Voorzitter, collega's, elke nieuwe crisis, of het nu in Rusland of in het Midden-Oosten is, doet opnieuw de energieprijzen stijgen. Telkens opnieuw zeggen we: we zijn te afhankelijk van het buitenland en van instabiele regimes. Telkens opnieuw zijn het onze gezinnen en onze bedrijven die de prijs cash betalen aan de pomp of thuis.”
“Dit betekent: volop inzetten op hernieuwbare energie, inclusief de vierde generatie kerncentrales; voorzien in een stabiel energienet voor massale investeringen in de opslag van batterijen; gezamenlijke aankopen versterken in plaats van elkaar als Europese landen op de wereldmarkt te beconcurreren; en vooral sneller handelen.”
“Madam President, dear colleagues, I would like to make a point of order based on Rule 150. Saturday, 25 April marked 10 years since Swedish-Iranian academic Ahmadreza Djalali was sentenced and arrested in Iran. Ten years! He is currently the longest‑standing EU citizen held hostage by the Iranian authorities.”
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“Voorzitter, commissaris, we hebben hier de hele ochtend gedebatteerd over de lange to‑do‑lijst van de Europese Commissie. Ik wil stilstaan bij vier dingen die de burgers van ons verwachten. Ten eerste natuurlijk veiligheid. Zonder veiligheid doen we niks. Ten tweede lagere energiekosten. Ten derde minder papierwerk en ten slotte makkelijker kapitaal, zodat jonge ondernemers ook in Europa hun ondernemingen kunnen opstarten. Commissaris, voor mij is het van vitaal belang dat we daarvan heel snel werk maken. Ik denk dat iedereen het hier gezegd heeft: de tijd dringt. De Europeanen willen niet langer toeschouwer zijn, maar spelen. Daarom wil ik er echt bij u op aandringen: zorg dat die snelheid er komt. Collega Gerbrandy heeft het heel duidelijk gezegd.”
“Serbien bekennt sich klar zum EU-Beitritt, aber verschließt sich nicht Russland und China gegenüber und zieht gerade dadurch Auslandsinvestitionen an, von denen andere nur träumen können. Genau das ist es, was den Globalisten ein Dorn im Auge ist. Sie wollen keine unabhängigen Nationen, sondern folgsame Vasallen. Doch Serbien ist ein stolzes, ein souveränes Land. Die Serben lassen sich nicht diktieren, wie sie ihr Land regieren sollen und mit wem sie freundschaftliche Beziehungen unterhalten. Daher keine Einmischung, keine Destabilisierung, keine erzwungenen Regimewechsel. Wer mit der Regierung unzufrieden ist, soll das bei demokratischen Wahlen zeigen, nicht bei von außen inszenierten Protesten. 2-0411-0000”
“Οπότε, για την Ένωσή μας, πρέπει η Ένωσή μας να εκπέμψει ένα μήνυμα σαφές και όχι ένα εσφαλμένο μήνυμα. 2-0410-0000 Petr Bystron, im Namen der ESN-Fraktion. – Dragi gosti! Frau Präsidentin! Liebe Kolleginnen und Kollegen! Die Unruhen in Serbien sind die letzten Zuckungen eines globalistischen Netzwerks, das über Jahrzehnte solche Proteste in der ganzen Welt organisiert hat. Donald Trump und Elon Musk zerschlagen es gerade. Sie zerschlagen die CIA-Vorfeldorganisation USAID. Diese hat Protestbewegungen finanziert, Regierungen destabilisiert und regime changes herbeigeführt. Wir haben es zuletzt in Georgien und in der Ukraine gesehen. Nun erleben wir es halt in der Slowakei und in Serbien. Zu wirklichem Unmut haben die Serben wenig Anlass. Das Land steht wirtschaftlich und politisch weit besser da als andere Länder des Balkans.”
“Η Σερβία, ωστόσο, είναι μια χώρα με ενταξιακή προοπτική, δηλαδή μια χώρα την οποία έχουμε δεσμευθεί να στηρίξουμε έμπρακτα και θέση μας είναι η διεύρυνση της Ένωσής μας προς τα Δυτικά Βαλκάνια, όμως με προϋποθέσεις. Οι προϋποθέσεις είναι το κράτος δικαίου, κάτι που βλέπουμε ότι γενικώς, και στη Σερβία και αλλού, δεν τα πάει πολύ καλά. Για μια ακόμη φορά όμως η ηγεσία μας, η ηγεσία της Ένωσης, στέκει αμήχανη και αναποφάσιστη μπροστά στις επικίνδυνες εξελίξεις στην περιοχή των Δυτικών Βαλκανίων. Αντί να σκύψει και να δουλέψει εντατικά με τη Σερβία σε θέματα κράτους δικαίου, οικονομίας και θεσμικών μεταρρυθμίσεων, ώστε να ενδυναμωθεί αυτή η προοπτική της χώρας, αρκείται στις άγονες διαπιστώσεις και πρακτικά εγκαταλείπει τη χώρα στην τύχη της.”
“Zato danes ni čas za tišino, temveč za jasen poziv srbskim oblastem k reformam in spoštovanju temeljnih vrednot demokracije. Srbski narod in Srbija kot država si zasluži evropsko prihodnost. EU bo naredila vse, da se to zgodi. A manjkajo dejanja aktualnih srbskih oblasti. Te morajo prevzeti odgovornost za trenutno stanje. Državotvorna ravnanja so tista, ki pred lastne interese in interese političnih strank postavijo dobrobit naroda. Zdaj je čas, da srbske oblasti to postanejo. 2-0409-0000 Konstantinos Arvanitis, εξ ονόματος της ομάδας The Left. – Κυρία Πρόεδρε, κύριοι συνάδελφοι, δυστυχώς η Σερβία διάγει μια φάση διαβρωτικής απορρύθμισης. Η πολιτική και οικονομική αστάθεια έχει κορυφωθεί, η διαφθορά καλπάζει και οι τοπικές αρχές παρεκκλίνουν από τα θεμελιώδη δημοκρατικά και δικαιοκρατικά προστάγματα.”
“I think the Commission has to be very clear to Mr Vučić: if you want to be part of the European Union, it's the rule of law, it's the freedom of media, with all the possibilities that people can live in free freedom and peace. 2-0408-0000 Vladimir Prebilič, v imenu skupine Verts/ALE. – Gospa predsednica! Spoštovane gospe in gospodje! Evropska unija temelji na demokraciji, vladavini prava in človekovih pravicah. In za te se danes pogumno in dostojanstveno borijo mladi v Srbiji. Na ulice so se podali, da bi opozorili na sistemsko korupcijo in zanikanje odgovornosti oblasti. Njihov glas je jasen: želijo državo, ki spoštuje evropske vrednote. V tem nam morajo biti samo vzor. Tragedija v Novem Sadu je pretresla srbsko družbo, a resnična tragedija bi bila, če bi Evropa ob tem ostala tiho.”
“What the people want and why they go on the street: they want rule of law, they want freedom of speech, they want to express without limitation and violence. And what people in Serbia tell me is they don't want to see Vučić every night on television to say the same things. Sometimes people get fed up with it. The students are protesting because they need, because they want the rule of law. They want transparency. They are fighting for their future and for their country, and they can be proud of their commitment. Here in Parliament, we stand for these young people. And Ms Kos, thank you very much for your clear expression. But I'm afraid not everybody in the Commission sees it like you.”
“Perché se scegliamo di non decidere, non possiamo poi sorprenderci se Belgrado rafforza i suoi legami con Russia, Cina ed Emirati arabi, alla ricerca di investimenti e sostegno, mentre i suoi cittadini sviluppano crescente indifferenza verso l'Europa. La politica è una questione di scelte: o costruiamo con la Serbia un percorso di adesione credibile, o accettiamo di perdere un partner strategico in una regione fondamentale per la nostra sicurezza e la nostra stabilità. 2-0407-0000 Helmut Brandstätter, on behalf of the Renew Group. – Madam President, Madam Commissioner, Minister, I would like also to express my deepest condolences with the victims of the Novi Sad tragedy. Here's the point: it has to be investigated, but people do not believe that Vučić allows a real investigation.”
“– Signora Presidente, onorevoli colleghi, la situazione in Serbia oggi è il risultato di anni di incertezze. Da un lato, si evidenziano i progressi nel percorso europeo e, dall'altro, le proteste in atto sembrano dimostrare il contrario. Va ricordato che Belgrado ha riconosciuto la fondatezza delle proteste, se ne è assunta la responsabilità, con le dimissioni del primo ministro e del sindaco di Novi Sad e perseguendo i responsabili delle violenze. La Serbia è un partner strategico nei Balcani ed è giusto chiedere un impegno concreto verso le riforme, ma per accelerare il processo di adesione, non rallentarlo. La vera domanda riguarda noi: cosa vogliamo fare noi con la Serbia? Vogliamo agevolare il suo ingresso o la lasciamo in una zona grigia?”
“A kormányellenes tüntetések azonban mindezek ellenére folytatódnak, sőt újabb társadalmi csoportok csatlakoznak a tüntető egyetemistákhoz. Intézmények vesztegzárját, oktatási intézmények teljes munkabeszüntetését eredményezve. Meggyőződésem, hogy mindennek a kárvallottjai azok az általános és középiskolás diákok, akiknek az oktatáshoz való joga csorbul, hiszen a tanáraik is csatlakoztak a teljes munkabeszüntetéshez, így a gyerekek gyakorlatilag több mint egy hónapja nem járhatnak iskolába. Nehéz ezzel kapcsolatban elfogulatlanul és tárgyilagosan beszélni. Tarthatjuk a tüntetést a demokrácia egyik eszközének. Politikusként azonban ragaszkodnunk kell ahhoz, hogy a politikai vitáknak nem az utcákon, hanem a parlamentben van a helyük. 2-0406-0000 Alessandro Ciriani, a nome del gruppo ECR.”
“2-0405-0000 Annamária Vicsek, a PfE képviselőcsoport nevében. – Tisztelt Elnök Asszony! Az Európai Uniónak elsődleges érdeke a tagjelölt országok stabilitása. Ezért érthető, hogy az Európai Parlament is foglalkozik a szerbiai időszerű politikai helyzettel. Fontos, hogy eközben igazságos és tárgyilagos legyen a képviselők hozzáállása, hiszen az Európai Unió a tagjelölt országok szuverenitását is tiszteletben kell tartsa. Szerbiában hetek óta tartanak a tüntetések, aminek fő kiváltó oka az újvidéki vasútállomás tetőszerkezetének három hónappal ezelőtti tragikus leomlása, amely 15 ember halálát okozta. Időközben megkezdődött a bűnügyi felelősségre vonás. Emellett a politikai felelősségre vonás sem maradt el. A kormány teljesítette a tüntető egyetemisták követeléseit.”
“U Srbiji svjedočimo političkoj krizi, a političke krize zahtijevaju politička rješenja. Rješenja ne mogu biti protjerivanja građana Europske unije ni neutemeljene optužbe za vanjsko uplitanje. Novim izborima, ako do njih dođe, treba prethoditi reforma izbornog sustava u skladu s preporukama OESS-a i Vijeća Europe. Rješenje nije ni oportunistička interpretacija stabilnosti potpomognuta europskim novcem za infrastrukturne projekte, uz manjak kritičnosti za stanje demokracije. Izvješća Komisije ukazuju na probleme, ali neki europski lideri hvale napredak. Ako kredibilnom politikom proširenja želimo nove članice, trebamo je jasnije komunicirati i više europskih sredstava preusmjeriti u jačanje demokratskih institucija i pravosuđe. Europska unija odavno nije samo zajedničko tržište, nego i zajednica demokratskih vrijednosti.”
“We cannot impose on the authorities to align with EU positions, nor can we impose on the students to fly the European flags in the streets and the squares of Serbia. Yet we want them to know that a nation truly embracing and aligning with European values can always, always count on the support of this Parliament. 2-0404-0000 Tonino Picula, u ime kluba S&D. – Gospođo predsjedavajuća, gospođo povjerenice, drage kolege, tragedija u Novom Sadu potaknula je građanske prosvjede koji su prerasli u široki društveni pokret. Razlozi za nezadovoljstvo su povezani sa stanjem vladavine prava, poštivanjem demokratskih standarda i financijskom transparentnosti u Srbiji. Još jednom iskazujem podršku svim mladim ljudima koji mirno i dostojanstveno zahtijevaju bolju budućnost za svoju zemlju.”
“On the contrary, the authorities have the obligation to guarantee transparency and accountability and consequently, to restore citizens' confidence in state institutions. Confidence-building measures are essential for a much-needed inclusive process of dialogue among political and social actors. All stakeholders are expected to contribute to this dialogue, a dialogue conducive to a plural and free society, with free media and independent judiciary. A dialogue based on respect of the rule of law, a key component of the EU accession negotiations. We look forward to a European Serbia reconciled with itself and with its neighbours. While our aim is to contribute to this goal, we are also fully aware that it is up to the Serbs, as a sovereign nation, to decide and shape its future.”
“– Madam President, dear colleagues, here and in the gallery, let me begin by expressing our solidarity with the victims and the families of the fifteen people killed on 1 November, after the collapse of the train station canopy in Novi Sad. Since that tragic moment, massive protests have been taking place in Serbia, requesting accountability and the full disclosure of the documents related to the reconstruction of the train station, a job given to the China Railway International Company. This massive protest, led by students, is the largest demonstration since the fall of Milošević. It is important to reiterate on this occasion that students have the right to peaceful demonstration. This essential democratic right should not be curtailed.”
“It needs to be a national project owned by everyone: the government, the parliament, the opposition, civil society, every region, town and village, and ultimately every single citizen in the country. Dear honourable Members, as you know, the European Commission regularly assesses the situation in Serbia, pointing to all the challenges and open issues very clearly, including in our annual enlargement package report. We will continue engaging with the authorities and all stakeholders, political actors and civil society to support the necessary reforms on Serbia's path to the EU for the benefit of all citizens and the whole Serbian society. 2-0403-0000 Davor Ivo Stier, on behalf of the PPE Group.”
“If properly implemented, these reforms will have a transformative power that will benefit all citizens of Serbia and bring their country to the European Union. Serbia's leadership has repeatedly committed to these reforms. We are looking forward to the implementation of these commitments. In this geopolitical situation, EU Member States ask also progressive alignment with the CFSP and they have all legitimate right to ask for that, as we are expecting that future Member States stand with us defending the principles of rules-based multilateral order. The EU accession process is now more political, more gradual, but also reversible. That is why it requires an intense effort by the entire society.”
“It is precisely Serbia's path towards the European Union that offers solutions to many of the issues that are at the heart of the requests of the protesters in Serbia today. The reforms, which we want to see during the accession process, will strengthen the fight against corruption, ensure the independence of the judiciary, accountability of institutions and transparent public procurement, promote media freedom and pluralism, and improve electoral conditions. They should also ensure an enabling environment for civil society and build resilience against disinformation and information manipulation. All this represents the European way of Serbia as it was well noted in the latest country progress report.”
“In these circumstances, it is important that the conditions are established for inclusive dialogue involving all stakeholders, political actors, institutions, members of civil society, and students and professors to address the concerns and achieve consensus on the reforms that are necessary for the European future of Serbia. This will strengthen Serbian society and consolidate Serbia's future within the EU. It remains the Commission's priority to support Serbia in advancing on its European path and becoming part of the European Union. But the path to EU membership encompasses reforms which enshrine our values not only in legislation but also in practice. What is important?”
“We have also expressed concerns about reports of illegal access to personal data of citizens and activists, and publication of such data – this is not acceptable and needs to be followed up by the competent national authorities. Furthermore, spreading disinformation, hostile political rhetoric including against the EU, against our citizens, against some respectful Members of the European Parliament and, lately, against EU delegation which holds dialogue to political and civil society stakeholders, has no place and will have no place on the path to EU integration.”
“No violence should be tolerated and we expect the Serbian police to continue ensuring the safety of demonstrators. The Commission has expressed concerns about the incidents against demonstrators that have been witnessed, and we expect a full, impartial and speedy investigation into these attacks. Language inciting violence and lack of mutual respect also cannot be the solution. We have expressed concerns about the authorities' treatment of a group of peaceful civil society activists from EU Member States and candidate countries who were detained and later asked by the authorities to leave Serbia for representing a security risk.”
“– Madam President, honourable Members of the European Parliament, the Commission has been following very closely the current political situation in Serbia and the large mobilisation of students joined by other groups of citizens following the tragic incident at the Novi Sad railway station. Citizens' participation, transparency and accountability play a vital role in the development of democratic societies. As underlined in my open letter published last week, as an answer to the numerous letters which the Commission received, fundamental values are at the core of our common European project, which the European Union expects all candidate countries to embrace and respect. This includes freedom of assembly, which should be exercised peacefully and in accordance with the law.”
“Serbia has undertaken commitments in this regard to promote the values on which the EU is founded, namely the respect for human dignity, freedom, democracy, equality, the rule of law and respect for human rights. Everyone should have a right to freedom of peaceful assembly and freedom of association at all levels. Acts that undermine these rights, including reported incidents against demonstrators, must be addressed promptly and decisively. The Council will continue to follow the situation in Serbia closely, and I just would like to underline that enlargement is still a priority for the Polish Presidency and also in Western Balkan direction. 2-0401-0000 VORSITZ: KATARINA BARLEY Vizepräsidentin 2-0402-0000 Marta Kos, Member of the Commission.”
“– Deschidem dezbaterea privind Declarațiile Consiliului și Comisiei referitoare la criza politică din Serbia (2025/2554(RSP)) prin afirmațiile domnului Adam Szłapka din partea Consiliului. 2-0400-0000 Adam Szłapka, President-in-Office of the Council. – Mr President, honourable Members, Madam Commissioner, dear guests from Serbia, we welcome this timely debate and thank the European Parliament for holding it. We follow the protests of Serbia's youth and other citizens who have joined them in exercising their democratic rights across the country. Serbia is a candidate country with an EU membership perspective and negotiating the accession. In this capacity, it is subject to particular scrutiny related to the implementation of the rule of law reforms and respect of fundamental rights.”
“TC "15 - Политическа криза в Сърбия (разискване)" \f "1"TC "15 - Crisis política en Serbia (debate)" \f "2"TC "15 - Politická krize v Srbsku (rozprava)" \f "3"TC "15 - Politisk krise i Serbien (forhandling)" \f "4"TC "15 - Politische Krise in Serbien (Aussprache)" \f "5"TC "15 - Poliitiline kriis Serbias (arutelu)" \f "6"TC "15 - Πολιτική κρίση στη Σερβία (συζήτηση)" \f "7"TC "15 - Political crisis in Serbia (debate)" \f "8"TC "15 - Crise politique en Serbie (débat)" \f "9"TC "15 - Géarchéim pholaitiúil sa tSeirbia (díospóireacht)" \f "A"TC "15 - Politička kriza u Srbiji (rasprava)" \f "B"TC "15 - Crisi politica in Serbia (discussione)" \f "C"TC "15 - Politiskā krīze Serbijā (debates)" \f "D"TC "15 - Politinė krizė Serbijoje (diskusijos)" \f "E"TC "15 - Politikai válság Szerbiában (vita)" \f "F"TC "15 - Il-kriżi politika fis-Serbja (dibattitu)" \f "G"TC "15 - Politieke crisis in Servië (debat)" \f "H"TC "15 - Kryzys polityczny w Serbii (debata)" \f "I"TC "15 - Crise política na Sérvia (debate)" \f "J"TC "15 - Criza politică din Serbia (dezbatere)" \f "K"TC "15 - Politická kríza v Srbsku (rozprava)" \f "L"TC "15 - Politična kriza v Srbiji (razprava)" \f "M"TC "15 - Serbian poliittinen kriisi (keskustelu)" \f "N"TC "15 - Den politiska krisen i Serbien (debatt)" \f "O"Criza politică din Serbia (dezbatere) 2-0399-0000 Preşedinte.”
“– Deschidem dezbaterea privind criza politică din Serbia și aș dori să urez bun-venit unei delegații a Adunării Naționale a Republicii Serbia, care se află în Parlament pentru cea de-a XVI-a reuniune a Comisiei parlamentare de stabilizare și de asociere UE-Serbia. (Vorbitorul folosește o limbă din afara UE) Ne bucurăm să avem colegi din Serbia aici, în mijlocul Parlamentului European. Pentru mine și pentru mulți alții toate țările Balcanilor, inclusiv Serbia, aparțin spațiului european. Îi așteptăm în Europa!”
“TC "14 - Приветствие с добре дошли" \f "1"TC "14 - Bienvenida" \f "2"TC "14 - Přivítání" \f "3"TC "14 - Velkomstord" \f "4"TC "14 - Begrüßung" \f "5"TC "14 - Tervitus" \f "6"TC "14 - Υποδοχή" \f "7"TC "14 - Welcome" \f "8"TC "14 - Souhaits de bienvenue" \f "9"TC "14 - Fáilte" \f "A"TC "14 - Dobrodošlica" \f "B"TC "14 - Benvenuto" \f "C"TC "14 - Oficiāla sveikšana" \f "D"TC "14 - Oficialus pasveikinimas" \f "E"TC "14 - Köszöntés" \f "F"TC "14 - Merħba" \f "G"TC "14 - Welkomstwoord" \f "H"TC "14 - Powitanie" \f "I"TC "14 - Boas-vindas" \f "J"TC "14 - Urări de bun venit" \f "K"TC "14 - Oficiálne privítanie" \f "L"TC "14 - Dobrodošlica" \f "M"TC "14 - Tervetulotoivotukset" \f "N"TC "14 - Välkomsthälsning" \f "O"Urări de bun venit 2-0397-0000 Preşedinte.”
“Mr President, just to say, I'm very sorry because we are debating here now more than an hour, all parties with a very strong resolution. Neither the Commission nor the Council can pronounce that Rwanda is making a big mistake in the Democratic Republic of the Congo. I am very sorry – we will vote a very strong resolution on Thursday, and I really hope, Commissioner and Council, that you can clearly state that Rwanda is making mistakes and crimes over in the Democratic Republic of the Congo. 2-0395-0000 Preşedinte. – Mulțumesc, doamna Vautmans, deși notez că nu este point of order, dar înțeleg sentimentul dezbaterii. Cu aceasta închidem dezbaterea de astăzi.”
“Voorzitter, velen hebben het hier al gezegd: vandaag is het drie jaar geleden dat die afschuwelijke oorlog van Rusland tegen Oekraïne begon. We hebben Oekraïne drie jaar lang gesteund. Eensgezind, gelukkig maar. Maar laten we eerlijk zijn: halfslachtig en met de voet op de rem. We hebben Rusland gesanctioneerd. Eensgezind, maar ook halfslachtig. We zitten inmiddels aan het vijftiende sanctiepakket. Daarmee hebben we niet alleen de miserie van de Oekraïners gerekt, maar ook onze eigen pijn. Vandaag staat de gasprijs op zijn hoogste peil in twee jaar. Wij betalen het gelag. De oorlog duurt veel te lang. Laten we vandaag afspreken dat deze oorlog dit jaar ten einde komt. Er zijn drie manieren om vrede te bereiken:”
“Onze competitieve wetgeving tanden geven. Zorgen dat we terugbijten als ze invoerheffingen opleggen. Trump toont een enorme vechtlust voor Amerika. Laten wij nu eens dezelfde vechtlust tonen voor Europa. 2-0243-0000”
“Voorzitter, collega's, Het gaat hier nu al dagen en weken over Trump, maar gisteren heeft Trump met geen woord over Europa gerept. En dat is geen goed teken. We weten wat hij van plan is. Eén: hij gaat nieuwe invoerheffingen treffen, zogezegd om de Amerikaanse economie te beschermen, maar die onze bedrijven zullen treffen. Twee: hij zal ons, zijn Europese NAVO-bondgenoten, laten stikken. Drie: hij zal natuurlijk deals maken met zoveel mogelijk autocraten, te beginnen met Poetin. En houd u vast als hij een deal met China maakt, tegen Europa. Alle drie tegen ons, tegen Europa gericht. En wat is onze strategie? Wel, ik zal u zeggen wat wij moeten doen. Eén: onze alliantie met democratieën versterken; een blok maken tegen de "bullies". Twee: een eigen Europese defensie optuigen, samen met de NAVO als het kan, tegen Trump als het moet.”