Jaak Madison
Member of the European Parliament · ECR · EE
“Mr President, I was running here, but I was listening to the speeches by Ms Kallas, and I totally understand that she can't say anything else except that we are so united. But of course, the fact is that stating, for example, that the Spanish far-left government is helping Ukraine a lot is a joke. We know it.”
“Spain's far-left socialist government? You don't care, actually. You don't care. You can have nice, beautiful words here, but when there's a re-election, when we have to fight for our own lives, you're just making resolutions. So that's why the future of Europe will be that Poland, the Baltics and Finland have to take care of themselves.”
“Madam President, dear Commissioners, dear colleagues, first of all, I think when we are talking about the single market and differences, we have to understand that the only solution for the left side then is to have the same rules, same regulations.”
“But when we are talking about just a market situation for the EU, the real problem actually – as has also been mentioned here – is our capacity globally against China and the US also. But we have, for example, industrial companies.”
“Madam President, first of all, thanks for two decades of over‑regulation, overtaxation. While the prices are going up, you are just whining and blaming Trump. Trump is guilty. Some of you from the Greens are saying that, 'Oh, the nurse has to drive one hour in the morning to work, and now the fuel prices are over EUR 2 per litre'.”
“We could produce the cheapest energy ever. We have also produced, actually, gasoline from oil shale. But we can't do it. You know why? Because we have the emissions trading system for climate change. It's thanks to you. And then you're whining, 'Oh, Trump is guilty. Trump is guilty.' Look in the mirror. You are guilty. 3-0103-0000”
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“Spain's far-left socialist government? You don't care, actually. You don't care. You can have nice, beautiful words here, but when there's a re-election, when we have to fight for our own lives, you're just making resolutions. So that's why the future of Europe will be that Poland, the Baltics and Finland have to take care of themselves. 2-0242-0000”
“Mr President, I was running here, but I was listening to the speeches by Ms Kallas, and I totally understand that she can't say anything else except that we are so united. But of course, the fact is that stating, for example, that the Spanish far-left government is helping Ukraine a lot is a joke. We know it. Ireland is still helping the Russian economy. We are so united, absolutely! I know that you can't say anything else, but we both know that it is a delusion. Second thing, when we talk about safety in the Baltic states, Finland and Poland, when we look at the situation in Europe, we know that actually those countries have to stick together. We have no other choice. We can't rely for hope from Germany because once you have again, maybe a socialist Government, Gerhard Schröder number two, we are again lost.”
“But when we are talking about just a market situation for the EU, the real problem actually – as has also been mentioned here – is our capacity globally against China and the US also. But we have, for example, industrial companies. They have to consider, at the same time, emissions and environmental permits, occupational safety requirements, product certifications, chemical and material requirements, energy and climate rules, all of that. And then we are talking about how to overregulate. No, we have to go back to history to have a normal market again where we started. 3-0092-0000”
“Madam President, dear Commissioners, dear colleagues, first of all, I think when we are talking about the single market and differences, we have to understand that the only solution for the left side then is to have the same rules, same regulations. But, just for example, I could not just imagine that we are going to have a compromise for the labour market with the same rules, with a Spanish far-left government and with normal governments, because this will mean that we are going to overregulate in 27 Member States just to harmonise. And I will probably never see a national government elected by the people of a Member State who would agree with that. That will never happen. So, we have differences. But differences are a start for competition and competition is good globally.”
“We could produce the cheapest energy ever. We have also produced, actually, gasoline from oil shale. But we can't do it. You know why? Because we have the emissions trading system for climate change. It's thanks to you. And then you're whining, 'Oh, Trump is guilty. Trump is guilty.' Look in the mirror. You are guilty. 3-0103-0000”
“Madam President, first of all, thanks for two decades of over‑regulation, overtaxation. While the prices are going up, you are just whining and blaming Trump. Trump is guilty. Some of you from the Greens are saying that, 'Oh, the nurse has to drive one hour in the morning to work, and now the fuel prices are over EUR 2 per litre'. Yeah, but you know, in the EU over 50 % of the fuel price goes to taxes, while in the US it's only 20 %. It's thanks to you that this nurse is paying over EUR 2 per litre. You are talking about green energy? Yes, we have done it for the last seven years, the green ideology, and the prices are just going up. Can we cut all the fossil fuels? No, it's impossible, technologically. You know in Estonia, my own country, we have the best expertise in the whole world on oil shale.”
“In France, Mr Macron is talking again about the discussion needed with Vladimir Putin. So we are going back to business as usual, unfortunately. The reality is that in Europe there will never be the same policy in 27 Member States. We are just very, very different, unfortunately. And that is why there are realistic ways that we need more and more cooperation regionally, especially like in the north-eastern part of Europe, with the Baltic states, with Poland, with Finland and Sweden, because we can't really rely on the hopes in Germany or France, unfortunately. 2-0135-0000”
“Madam President, dear colleagues, first of all, I think we all agree that this debate doesn't change anything at all, particularly. Secondly, absolutely, the defence question is very important, but we know that defence policy is in the hands of the Member States. And the backbone of the economy in Europe is definitely Germany and also France, so it depends about them, what they are going to do. In the morning, just here in the previous debate, we were listening and hearing a lot of theories about climate change. Now we are listening to theories about defence policies. But the fact is that when Germany doesn't wake up and still spending almost the same amount of money for some kind of climate policy as they are spending for the defence policy, nothing really changes.”
“Unfortunately, [sound cuts out] or even the Estonian economy can't run only by the sun and wind. That's a pure fact. We need stable energy. But what Germany has done because of the Greens – your partners here in the Parliament, they shut down all the nuclear plants, relying only on Russian gas, and now they are screwed, of course, because of Russia. Yeah, it makes sense. But the problem is that now you can't go with electric tanks to Greenland to say 'democracy here, let's protect it'... (The President cut off the speaker) 3-0055-0000”
“– I think you're wrong if you think climate policies and security and defence policy differ that much. The solution is the same: free ourselves from Russian gas. And let us not be naive and think that we can just switch from Russian gas to American LNG. If we go your way, deciding to treat these as completely different topics, we are doomed to fail, we are doomed to replace just one dependency with another, and that will not create a stronger Europe or a safer Europe. 3-0054-0000 Jaak Madison (ECR), blue-card answer. – Well, if you would agree with me, everything will be wrong, because you're from Renew and I'm from the Conservatives, so it's fine. When you look at the climate policy, the question is that we need reliable resources. Is it the nuclear plants, or is it gas, is it LNG or whatever?”
“But from the national budgets, especially when you look at Germany and France – the strongest economies, strongest countries by defence in Europe – this year, the German taxpayers are paying just approximately EUR 80 billion for climate policy, but only EUR 110 billion for defence. Same thing in France: EUR 50 billion to climate policy, just EUR 50 billion to defence. Then we are hearing the liberals who are saying that we need a strong Europe. But sorry, I will never trust the liberals, the socialists here who have screwed up Europe. Now you can solve the problems? Like Ms Hayer from Renew, from France, said, we have to protect democracy. But really, with you... (The President cut off the speaker) (The speaker agreed to take a blue-card question) 3-0053-0000 Sigrid Friis (Renew), blue-card question.”
“Mr President, dear colleagues, first of all, as the President of the Commission, Ms von der Leyen, said, we need three things for the future of Europe – strong economy, united societies and strong defence. The problem, of course, with the economy is that we have been falling in the last two decades. Now the EU economy is about only 13 % of the global economy. Why? Of course, because of bureaucracy, over-regulation, the Green Deal, high energy prices because of the Green Deal, and so on. When you look exactly at the numbers, if we are prioritising also defence, we are paying about EUR 100 billion from the EU budget, every year, for climate policy.”
“Kuna kui me vaatame Euroopa väikeriike, eriti naabruses, nagu Põhja- ja Ida-Euroopa, siis meie jaoks on just nimelt eksistentsiaalne, et kuidas on meie suhted tagatud Ameerika Ühendriikidega. Ehk et Lääne- ja Lõuna-Euroopa riigid võivad ju sõimata, aga paraku väikeriikidel, nagu Eesti, on väga raske teie sõimu toetada. Sest küsimus on väga põhimõtteline. Saksamaa võib rääkida küll strateegiast, autonoomiast, aga täna Saksamaa ei suuda isegi taastada kohustuslikku ajateenistust. Ehk et kellega peaks näiteks Eesti rohkem suhteid arendama? Kas lootma Brüsseli mullile või pigem meie liitlasele USA-le? 3-0091-0000”
“So peace for the future, for the long term, is not possible, realistically. But, at the same time, we have to get peace for some certain period for Ukraine. At the same time, Europe has to forget all the small talk bullshit about the green ideology, about the beautiful things. We have to prepare to protect ourselves, to keep the security. 3-0062-0000”
“Mr President, dear colleagues, I really believe that the long-term and the fair peace currently being talked is not possible – not now. But it is possible to achieve peace for a certain period – especially for a resting time and the peace for Ukrainian people and the fighters to keep and maintain the dignity and the statehood, which is the most important thing ever. But, at the same time, we should not forget that Russia has not given up its demands for so-called 'security guarantees' that it presented to the US on 15 December 2021 – two months before attacking Ukraine. With those demands they demanded directly that there should be no military exercises in the new NATO member states and there should be no new member states, like Finland, which is now a member state. They have never, ever given up those demands.”
“But now, because of the Green Deal – because the ideology is saying that there is too much CO2 – the plan is to shut it down by 2030 and to import energy, because unfortunately sun and wind is not enough in Estonia, especially in February. So we have to rely on imports from the Nordics, from other countries. And then, when we are connected with the import, we face a much bigger risk because of the connections between Estonia and Finland. Once the Russian ships go there and something happens in February when it's -20º, we are in trouble. So that is why the Green Deal energy independence is a huge problem, because it is connected to be independent from the Russian energy, actually. But Estonia is a different case and that is why we are protecting the oil shale.”
“(Sõnavõtja nõustus vastama sinise kaardi küsimusele) 3-0047-0000 Martin Hojsík (Renew), blue-card question. – Dear colleague, you come from Estonia, a country that faced through its history quite a bit of trouble, to say the least, from Russia. I'm wondering: do you see the dependency on imported fossil fuels as something that is a problem, and how would you replace it? 3-0048-0000 Jaak Madison (ECR), blue-card answer. – Actually, it is a very good question. The problem with the Green Deal and with Russian energy is that Estonia has always been independent with energy, with oil shale. We have produced more than we need. We have exported to Finland, Latvia, Sweden.”
“Ja kahe aasta pärast rakendub siis ETS2 ehk teine kauplemissüsteem, mille hakkavad kinni maksma tavatarbijad koduomanikud maja kütmise eest, autoga sõitjad tankimise eest, mis omakorda lükkab rohkemgi tööstust ja majandust välja Euroopast. Ja te räägite, et rohepööre on võimalik. Et noh, ma ei tea, mis ainet peate tarbima selleks, et luua endale illusioon või mingisugune muinasjutt sellest, et rohepööre tagab konkurentsivõime, Kui me näeme, et pooled töökohad on kaotatud Saksamaal autotööstuses. Kui me näeme, et me sõltume Aasiast ja Hiinast, et osta mineraale ja muldmetalle, et rohepööret teha, siis vabandust, see maja on kaugel reaalsusest või inimesest hoolimisest, millest sotsid või vasakpoolsed räägivad, ja hirmutavad konservatiividega. Me tulemegi võimule. Tänu teile, et te lollid olete.”
“Austatud istungi juhataja! Esiteks, ma tõesti ei usu, et siin saalis meie ühtsus või mitteühtsus midagi otsustab, mis puudutab Euroopa julgeolekut. See ikkagi otsustakse Euroopa riikide valitsustes ja parlamentides. Teiseks, möödunud nädalal väga paljud meie kolleegid saatsid Euroopa Komisjonile muideks kirja, mis puudutab just nimelt neid piiririkkumisi, droonirünnakuid või droonidega ohustamisi. Allakirjutajaid oli väga erinevatest gruppidest, ka Renewst, rohelistest, PPEst, ECRist, ja seal me pakkusime ka konkreetseid lahendusi välja, loomulikult. Et meil tuleb investeerida kaitsevõimesse, õhutõrjesse ja alati on küsimus see, et kust see raha võetakse.”
“The situation is even sadder with the European Union's top diplomat – our own foreign representative, Ms Kallas – who only last week made the whole of Europe a laughing stock within the framework of the European Institute of Security Studies, where she showed her infantility by not having basic knowledge of history and not having a basic understanding of geopolitics, and all this in terrible English. The people of Europe do not deserve this, they deserve much better. 3-0088-0000”
“Madam President, dear colleagues, the situation in the European Union is no better than it was a year ago during the same debate. Firstly, the EU continues to be the largest importer of gas in the world from Russia, paying billions of euros for it and, at the same time, Russia just this morning attacked Poland, which is a Member State of both NATO and the EU, with drones. Secondly, there are still attempts to continue with climate extremism, which causes enormous damage to the economies, entrepreneurs and consumers of European countries. We are feeling this especially in Estonia, for example. Thirdly, the competence of the EU leadership is depressing. Ms von der Leyen clearly does not understand the situation we are in the world.”
“So, we should cut our taxes, we should cut our expenses and we should absolutely, totally finish the green ideology, which is the absolutely craziest, most socialist and communist thing ever, because many of you are communists here. When our Commissioner said that we did so well during the pandemic – really? The President of the Commission is still under investigation for the crime with Pfizergate. We did not do well. So, I will never trust our taxpayers' money in your hands. 3-0082-0000”
“Madam President, dear colleagues, first of all, we are talking about the long‑term budget for the future. We are only talking about our own resources, but let's say it in a more simple way for the voters and the public: own resources means new taxes. So, what very many of you want here is to have new taxes. So, it means to open the Treaties to more federalise the financial policy for the EU to get taxes directly from companies to the EU budget, not to Member States. But what we are not talking about at all is that maybe we should absolutely cut our expenses. We can't increase all the time the budget to have more expenses for the Green Deal, for the very beautiful and nice things, when our economy is totally running out compared to China or the US.”
“No ei ole väga hea koostöö, kui mõned riigid lasevad rahulikult üle ja teised riigid rabelevad üksinda, sest et osadel riikidel on jube mõnus olla kuskil lõunas või läänes. Ja rääkides kuludest, siis oluline pole väga protsent, kas see on viis protsenti, on ta neli või kuus. Küsimus on efektiivsuses. Mis on meie kaitsevõimed? Mis on meie tehnoloogia? Ehk lõppkokkuvõttes see, mis on oluline. Kuidas saada pauku teha, mis võtab vaenlase maha. See, mis see hind on, on omaette küsimus. Ehk et see viis protsenti on vahel nagu mull, kus me jääme kinni. Küsimus on meie kaitsevõimes: kuidas me suudame heidutada potentsiaalset vastast. Aitäh! 3-0052-0000”
“Austatud kolleegid! Hea proua Kallas! Kuigi ma ei ole teie suurim fänn, siiski palju õnne sünnipäevaks! Rääkides NATOst, siis paljud kolleegid on siin rääkinud sellest, kuidas tuleb tagada sotsiaalhoolekanne, võidelda inflatsiooniga, inimeste toimetulek. Täiesti nõus. Ma olen ka nõus sellega, et suuresti on majandusprobleemides süüdi ka Euroopa Liit ise, kuid see ei muuda mitte kuidagi fakti, seda, et sõja ajal, kui agressor ähvardab su riiki, pole sellest koolist ega pensionist mitte mingit abi. Kõik on kadunud. Ehk kui sa ei suuda oma riiki kaitsta, see võetakse lihtsalt ära ja me näeme Euroopas piisavalt riike, kes siiamaani mõnulevad oma kuskil unelmas, et nendel ju probleeme pole, aga samal ajal räägivad midagi solidaarsusest, ühtsusest, koostööst.”
“Ehk see algab juba palju sügavamalt, kui propageeritakse, et sa võid sugu muuta, kui sa oled laps. Sa võid võtta lasteaialapsi kaasa kuskile paraadile, kus sa kõnnid kõrvuti näiteks stringides vanamehega, kellel on koera mask peas. Ja kui üks saksa kolleeg siin hakkas ütlema, et see on vihakõne, siis vabandust - Saksamaal on kunagi seda räägitud ja see ei lõppenud väga hästi. Kui tahetakse vaigistada nii-öelda opositsiooni, kes ei järgi seda ideoloogiat, mis on paika pandud. Mina sellega muidugi nõus ei ole. Seega meil on siin demokraatia, kuid kui tahame lapsi kaitsta, siis läheme palju sügavamale ja juurpõhjusteni: mis tegelikult ohustab meie laste heaolu ja laseb pedofiilidel tegutseda. 2-0053-0000”
“Austatud president! Jah, suur aitäh, head armsad kolleegid! Ja kuidas peaks Euroopa Liit vastama USA tariifidele, mille nad kehtestasid? Ei, me ei peakski Trumpi karistama selle eest, vaid peaksime mõtlema, et kuidas arendada omaenda majandust. Euroopa Liidu praegune majandusruum on direktiivide ja regulatsioonide labürint. See lämmatab ettevõtlikkust, tõrjub investeeringuid ja pidurdab majanduskasvu. Euroopa oli kunagi vabaturumajanduse eestkõneleja, aga on liikumas sotsialistliku käsumajanduse suunas. Ettevõtjad kulutavad praegu rohkem aega regulatiivsete nõuete täitmisele kui toote arendustele. Paljud firmad loobuvad laienemisest, sest ei suuda kanda direktiividest tulenevaid kulusid. Investorid eelistavad oma raha paigutada riikidesse, kus riskid on väiksemad ja regulatsioonid mõistlikumad.”
“Ja kui me räägime inimeste toomisest Euroopasse, kes on madala või olematu kvalifikatsiooniga, siis see ongi tohutu kulu Euroopa riikide sotsiaalsüsteemile, mille maksavad kinni meie need maksumaksjad ja nende tööandjad. Ja omakorda rääkimata muidugi sotsiaalsest ühtlusest, mida see kindlasti ei suurenda. Seega kaks väga suurt asja, mida saab Euroopa teha – rohepöörde lõpetamine ja range immigratsioonipoliitika. Ja lõpetuseks: sotsiaalküsimused lõpuks jäävad iga riigi pädevusse ja sellel majal pole siin väga suurt otsustamisõigust. 3-0217-0000”
“Austatud istungi juhataja, vähesed kolleegid ja head nõukogu ja komisjon esindajad. Esiteks selleks, et sotsiaalset Euroopat üles ehitada, tuleb meil loobuda kahest asjast, mis aitab sellele kaasa. Rohepööre ja liiga liberaalne immigratsioonipoliitika. Miks need? Esiteks, me teame väga hästi: rohepööre läheb maksma kõikidele maksumaksjatele oma uute nõuetega, keskkonnareeglitega, mis omakorda pärsivad majanduskasvu ja ettevõtjate investeerimisvõimalusi, mis omakorda vähendab ettevõtjate võimalust tõsta isegi palka inimestele. Ja omakorda see vähendab meie võimalust konkureerida Hiina, India või Ameerika Ühendriikidega. Lõppkokkuvõttes kogu selle lõbu maksab kinni maksumaksja ehk see, kes kõige rohkem kannatab sellest.”
“But the problem is that we have had peace several times with Russia, and nobody has given a shit about the result – that their territories are occupied, people are murdered, killed, raped. And we are just loving to talk here for three years. Very lovely story. The problem now is that we are not still investing enough for our defence. We are still the biggest importer of LNG from Russia. We are paying billions of euros to Russia to have war. Great ... (The President cut off the speaker) 2-0119-0000”
“Mr President, it's always lovely to see how the Germans are fighting with each other in the Chamber. Anyway, for three years, a lot of talk, no results. I think we have no doubt that in the next few months, we're going to have negotiations for the peace. So we will reach for that. But the problem is in which kind of terms we have. Today, currently in Europe, we don't have any kind of leader who will be equal to negotiate with Trump, Zelenskyy and Putin. Is it Kaja Kallas? Definitely not. Ursula? No. So, the problem now is that Europeans love to talk a lot and to make your own green deals, fight for the climate change, but in the reality, we have been talking for three years and now, of course, from the different sides, they are screaming about the human lives, how we need peace.”