Darren O'Rourke
Meath East · Sinn Féin · Ireland
“It is a statement of fact that in recent years we have seen a reduced number of classroom teachers. Budget 2026 led to the removal of 498 classroom teachers, a net reduction of 381 when one looks at the gains. The year 2025-26 saw a reduction of 290 and 2024-25 a reduction of 237. That has a real impact.”
“It has created duplication, inefficiency and a barrier to our natural prosperity. It has left the North underfunded by Westminster’s austerity and battered by the chaos of Brexit while the South has suffered from a fractured market and a divided island. We are both less than we could be. Irish unity is not a burden; it is an investment.”
“I welcome the opportunity to speak on statements on the fiscal implications of Irish unity. We hear people tell us Irish unity is a cost we cannot afford but the truth of the matter is partition is the cost we have already paid for for a century and more, and it is a price that is too high.”
“I thank the Minister. She said from November that 97% of posts were filled. In real terms at the same time, 996 teaching posts were unfilled, which is almost 1,000. Figures as recent as last week tell us that over 39,000 primary school students were in classes of 30 pupils or more in the past school year.”
“Again, we have those figures from a briefing we had with the Department as recently as yesterday. It is all welcome progress but the question I am asking today is what is the unmet need as things stand? How many children do not have an offer of a school place?”
“I wish the staff and the Minister all the best for the summer. I know it will be a busy summer but I hope that everyone gets a break. I ask the Minister to state the number of children with additional needs who require but have yet to receive an offer of an appropriate school place for September 2026, based on her most recent meeting with…”
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“Right-thinking people are horrified at what they are seeing in Gaza. It is difficult to comprehend the barbarity. It is even more difficult to see it on your TV screen. Right-thinking people are ashamed of their leaders, many of whom are standing idly by as we see the intentional destruction of healthcare by Israel, the obstruction of medical supplies and humanitarian aid, the slaughter of children and the extent to which Israel has normalised the bombing of hospitals. There was a time it pretended it was an accident. Last week in the audiovisual room, prominent Palestinian human rights defender, Mahmoud Nawajaa, acknowledged Irish efforts but said it is not enough. We need sanctions with impact. We need the enactment of the occupied territories Bill, the enactment of the divestment Bill and the enactment of the war bonds Bill.”
“School secretaries and caretakers play a vital role. They are the glue that holds our schools together. Despite this, they are denied pension parity and, in the case of caretakers, pay justice. Teresa Cassidy is one such example. Teresa has been the school secretary in Gaelscoil na Rithe in Dunshaughlin, County Meath for 27 years. When she spoke to the Meath Chronicle in recent weeks she said school secretaries just want to be recognised and treated the same as their SNA and teacher colleagues. The management and staff at Gaelscoil na Rithe fully support Teresa. It is a matter of fairness. It is the same in schools all across the State. Yesterday Fórsa commenced a ballot of school secretaries and caretakers. Will the Government act? Will it deliver pay justice and pension parity and avert the risk of strike action?”
“It is the same in respect of primary care for those children with less complex needs. In the Ashbourne area, since April 2022, more than three years ago, "1.5 whole-time equivalent paediatric occupational therapist posts based in Ashbourne and Dunshaughlin are vacant." That means there is no occupational therapist in that primary care service. Again, this is replicated across the State. Finally, when we meet parents who actually have a service, support or therapy for their child but where that therapy is being withdrawn, it is clear that the benefit of these therapies for children is absolutely profound and to deny them of it is absolutely cruel. It has to change.”
“To follow on from that point, in respect of my county, Meath, and the lack of capacity in the system, in CDNT 2 covering the Kells area, and CDNT 5 covering the Navan and Slane area, one in four posts is vacant. Those are the best figures. In CDNT 4, covering the Ashbourne and Dunshaughlin area, one in three posts is vacant. In CDNT 6, covering the Trim area, which Deputy Dempsey represents, almost two in three positions are vacant, or 62%. That is not unique across the State. It has a profound impact. Other Deputies will be familiar with responses such as this example: Currently there is one psychologist for a service of over 800 plus children. While the team will make every effort that this assessment is completed on time, we cannot guarantee this given the significant demand on limited psychology resources.”
“Workers, including essential workers who need their licences, are left stranded and, in many cases, locked out of employment or unable to participate fully in their communities. This is yet another issue that the Government has allowed to develop. Again, it is not taking young people into consideration. It is no wonder so many young people are emigrating. The Government response so far has been completely inadequate. We need urgent action to be taken on this issue. We need to increase the number of driving testers, maximise the number of testing hours and streamline the booking process in order to ensure that everyone has fair and timely access to a driving test. The best time to act was two years ago. The next best time to act is now.”
“The RSA has a statutory maximum target of ten weeks from the time a learner driver books their test until they are given a date to sit the test. The last time that target was reached was in July 2022, almost three years ago. Since then, as is evident across the State, things have got much worse. There are extended waiting times, a shortage of testers and a system that is failing both those it is meant to serve and in its basic function. In Meath, we have seen at first hand the impact of these delays. The Navan testing centre has the longest waiting time in the State, at 43 weeks. Amazingly, this is getting longer. This time last year, it was 16 weeks. When we last discussed this matter in February, it was 41 weeks. Young people, including students, who are eager to gain their independence are being left stranded.”
“The legislation mandates measures such as a dedicated response for vulnerable, domestic and business customers; a detailed communication plan for all customers, public representatives and local authorities, including two-hourly updates; the duty to provide emergency replacement water within agreed timeframes; and thresholds for rebates and compensation following planned and unplanned interruptions. There are very significant issues. I draw attention to the issues in the Kilbreena Estate in Dunboyne, County Meath, as well as many other areas across the State.”
“I move: That leave be granted to introduce a Bill entitled an Act to amend the Water Services (No. 2) Act 2013 to give the Commission for the Regulation of Utilities (CRU) the legislative remit to develop a code of practice for water service outages and to amend the Water Services Act 2014 to establish a dispute resolution mechanism for customer complaints regarding service interruptions and outages. This Bill would ensure that Uisce Éireann properly communicates with and, more importantly, supports households and businesses during water outages. I thank Deputies Ó Broin, Gould and Guirke for co-sponsoring the Bill. I especially thank Muireann Meehan Speed for her work in preparing the Bill. The Bill mandates Uisce Éireann to develop a code of practice for water service outages.”
“On recruitment and retention of staff into these services, I know there were recent announcements about companies opening up in the sector, which are welcome, but it is a question of general recruitment and retention and the recent pay negotiations.”
“Some things are coming through these figures consistently. There is a pattern within them. I expect this would be the case if we were to look at the geographic variation. I know much of the challenge in CHO 8 concerns the fact that it is very difficult to get staff because it is exceptionally expensive to live in Dublin or the greater Dublin area. There is then a variation across the State in the demographic and the demand on these services. It is incredibly important that these supports are in place when needed because they are so vital to ensuring the overall system functions properly and people have the care as close to home as possible.”
“It is significant. It is acknowledged that the figures are always very high. We are talking about millions of hours of home care packages and these are real services and important ones. We must always think about these things, though, in terms of unmet need. The system does not work if these services are not in place. Is there an analysis of whether there are specific geographical challenges and-or challenges with specific service areas? Is it in complex needs, for example? Does it involve people coming out of hospital and going into the community? Are there particular areas where challenges are encountered? Is it in disability services or care of the elderly, for example?”
“I wish to ask the Minister the number of people issued with a home care package but unable to fulfil it due to staffing shortages or other reasons in 2024 and to date in 2025 and if she will make a statement on the matter.”
“I welcome that there has been progress with regard to them but it just moves the problem on to somewhere else. We have regular outages now in Duleek. Today, we have water restrictions in Kells because there has been chronic underinvestment in water infrastructure for decades. The common denominator is Fianna Fáil and Fine Gael and an absolute failure to plan and deliver. Oireachtas Members met yesterday with members of the executive of Meath County Council who specifically stated that issues with investment in water infrastructure were impacting on the development of the economic corridor they would like to see at Dunboyne extending through Dunshaughlin to Navan. This has to change but I have absolutely no confidence it will change until we change Fianna Fáil and Fine Gael.”
“I am a TD for the Meath East constituency. As long as I have been there, which is my whole life, a permanent feature has been Fianna Fáil and Fine Gael in government here and Fianna Fáil and Fine Gael in government in Meath County Council. We have seen nothing but failure in terms of forward planning for critical infrastructure. For as long as I was a county councillor, and since I have been in the Dáil, the issue of retrospectively investing in communities, critical infrastructure, water, wastewater, energy, playgrounds, green space, school places, GP places, bus services and the whole lot has seen an absolute failure to forward plan and deliver. In water infrastructure it is particularly bad. This time last year, there were major issues in Ashbourne and Ratoath.”
“When I met with representatives of the Irish Science Teachers' Association, they raised serious concerns about reform of the senior cycle and leaving certificate, particularly in relation to funding of science laboratories and of science in schools generally. There is a need for a significant increase in funding for our science laboratories. There is a concern the current approach will heap advantage on advantage and disadvantage on disadvantage. That needs to be addressed. I urge caution on the Minister and ask for further engagement with our science teachers. If we want the pipeline of strong graduates to continue, we need to invest in secondary as well.”
“The skills summary project is an innovative tool that recognises youth work as an educational process. The project supports many young people, most notably those who are furthest from mainstream education. It promotes inclusion and readiness for work and is already being used across youth services, employability projects and volunteering organisations, offering a scalable youth-focused way to make transversal skills visible and valued, filling the gap between youth work and economic opportunity. It is an excellent project. I want to take a step further back in the pipeline towards senior cycle reform, particularly of science subjects. I recently met with the Irish Science Teachers' Association. I know the Minister has met with the teaching unions and there are proposals under consideration.”
“I welcome the opportunity to speak on this important issue. I commend the work of Dunboyne College of Further Education and the Youthreaches in County Meath. I am familiar with a number of them, including in Kells and Ashbourne. Along with Deputy Mary Lou McDonald and Councillor Maria White, I visited Laytown-Bettystown Youthreach last Friday and saw the really important work it does to provide alternative pathways into third level, apprenticeships, research and innovation. I commend the work of the principal of Dunboyne College of Further Education, Denis Leonard, who is soon to retire. I am sure he would echo my words that we need the new building there to be delivered as quickly as possible. They do tremendous work. It is important to highlight the vital role of youth work in equipping young people with essential transversal skills.”
“I thank the Social Democrats for bringing forward this motion. I have to say the Minister's countermotion is completely lacking in ambition or impetus. For this reason, Sinn Féin will not be supporting it.”
“Equality in education means that all students should have the same opportunity to succeed. This includes equal access to resources, fair treatment and a supportive environment. It is not right, fair or proper that children are left to feel isolated or excluded when faith formation or sacrament preparation is going on, for example in a Catholic school when a child is not Catholic. I say this as my party's spokesperson on education and as a father whose children are Catholic and attend a Catholic school. It is not fair that their friends are hived off into a corner during the school day. I understand there are constraints, challenges and conveniences for some in the existing system, and speaking for myself, we have to look at the system as a whole as a public service for the public good and at treating children fairly.”
“When the survey is ready to go, it must be accompanied by an information campaign for parents and school communities. We need movement in this regard because it is clear the school reconfiguration for diversity process has failed. A tiny number of schools have been transferred from religious to multidenominational patronage since 2013. The reconfiguration process as it stands lacks ambition. It lacks transparency and it lacks any real power to compel change. Patron bodies have no obligation to co-operate and communities and parents are left in the dark. The Minister should establish a clear process for school patronage change and it needs to be adequately resourced. I do not see the need for a large budget for this but there is a definite need for financial support to help with the transition.”
“We acknowledge the Government's intention to conduct a survey on parental preferences regarding school ethos. However, we urge the Minister to expedite this process and ensure its findings are acted upon swiftly. Furthermore, we believe the Government must address the systemic issues hindering patronage investment. The lack of transparency, community engagement and clear mechanisms for the change are unacceptable. Schools wishing to reconfigure should not face financial disincentives or logistical hurdles. The survey must happen soon. The Government's countermotion and parliamentary replies to me on the matter do not inspire confidence in this regard. We need concrete commitments and timelines. The survey must be confidential and it must be comprehensive.”
“Previous commitments to deliver 400 multidenominational schools by 2030 were a step in the right direction but progress has been glacial and the current programme for Government drops that target altogether. This in and of itself is very concerning. In my opinion it does not in any way reflect a lack of interest or demand from parents and communities. The opposite is the case. Instead, it reflects a failure of Fianna Fáil and Fine Gael to prioritise the needs of parents and children seeking alternative educational environments. It is clear that the current situation created by the Government and its lack of political will towards this matter undermines parental choice. Therefore, we call on the Government to recommit to the target of 400 multidenominational schools by 2030.”
“I thank the Social Democrats for bringing forward this motion. Sinn Féin has a long-standing policy on choice and diversification within our education system. We reaffirmed that position in our 2024 general election manifesto and I do so again now. Children have a right to an education in a school that matches their and their family’s values. Sinn Féin firmly believes in the provision of high-quality inclusive education for all, which includes a range of school patronage models. Currently, over 90% of Irish primary schools operate under religious patronage while, at the same time, access to multidenominational schools remains extremely inadequate.”
“I thank the Tánaiste. As I said, it is a welcome investment. I recognise the security considerations and other considerations, but is there an opportunity for the local community to access, in some shape or form, the likes of those facilities? We recognise that there are security considerations and other considerations, but if, for example, there were a transition period during which the facilities were not being used or some arrangement could be made, is it possible that something like that could be considered? Between Gormanston and Stamullen there is a growing population and a real shortage of amenities generally. Specifically, I refer to Stamullen FC, for example, the local soccer club. This is something we have tried to raise in the past.”
“That investment is welcome. It was welcome news in February. It is also welcome that the work is under way. It will be this time next year when it will be ready. Does the Tánaiste have an indication of when it will be operational or the numbers of people that will pass through it? I understand that it is for all units of the Defence Forces to use as a training camp. I wish to get a sense of the level of activity that might be there.”
“It would essentially be a print museum and it is hoped it will be launched and opened in the coming weeks or months. I particularly commend Mark Smith, who is a local community activist and working artist, including with the local authority and mental health organisations, on his role in that. I encourage the type of support provided so far by various Departments to continue, as well as the work with the local community in Kells, the same as in other areas, to ensure the potential that is there is realised. I invite the Minister - and will also invite the Minister, Deputy Burke - to come to Kells to see the huge potential that is there related to his role in the arts and culture and that of his colleague, the Minister of State, in sport.”
“The Minister is absolutely right. We look to the monastic settlements, the round tower, the high crosses, St. Columcille's House and the Spire of Lloyd. The Minister mentioned those. There are incredible sites of historic significance. The Minister will know, and I suppose it is the point he is making, that local individuals and communities through their effort and initiative have made so much happen, including GAA, soccer and other sports clubs. We have the best handball club in Ireland, I would say. It is a sport that is often under-recognised. I draw the Minister's attention to a project supported by various Departments which taps into the type trail the Minister mentioned and the association of the Book of Kells with the creative art around type, lettering and font. It is the establishment of a printworks bringing old printers back.”
“The anglers in Kells do a fantastic job of maintaining and protecting that natural resource. We also have the likes of Girley Bog, which is just outside the town, as a natural amenity. I appreciate the Minister's answer but the frustration among the community is that the town is working hard to put itself on the radar when the plans are not there to connect and draw people into the town of Kells. We must tap into the Book of Kells and the name of the town. Considerable numbers of people come to the Dublin area, for example, and there is potential to bring them on day trips to Kells. Is that immense potential being considered?”
“I thank the Minister for the response. I acknowledge the changeover of portfolios between Departments. I say to the Minister and his colleague, the Minister of State, Deputy McConalogue, that there is a real overlap between tourism product in Kells, for example, and arts, culture and sport. For example, the Hinterland Festival of Literature and Arts happens at the end of June and includes contributions from the Kells Type Trail. I encourage the Minister to come to the festival; he would be more than welcome. We also have the Samhain Festival of Food and Culture. Our preseason soccer tournament for kids is among the biggest in Ireland. It plays a significant role in encouraging people into the town. We also have a 36-hole golf course, which is an attraction. We also have the River Blackwater.”
“The Minister and I share the same constituency. I have been talking to the parents of 15 children in St. Patrick's National School in Stamullen who have had their SNA support withdrawn because of the arbitrary cap that is in place. That needs to change following the new interpretation of the 2024 toolkit and guidelines.”
“If we factor in the number of children who are in receipt of home tuition, the children who must take inordinately long bus trips every single day, the number of children who are on reduced school days or the children who are in inappropriate settings, we know that it is a very different picture. The Minister should withdraw her amendment. To be frank, that is what she should do if she does not disagree with the Labour Party motion. A number of factors need to be expedited. The Minister touched on buildings and teaching hours. We must invest in teachers to ensure they are adequately trained and that there are enough of them. It is the same with special needs assistants. We will have a session at 12 noon on injury leave. We must look at the 72 hours and the July work. We must deal with the cap.”
“The Labour Party motion refers to "September 2025" and the Government motion refers to "location". The Government's position is that it is providing enough school places. That is the Minister's position. It was the Taoiseach's position yesterday that 3,900 places will be provided for a demand of 3,275. That is the Government position. Anyone watching who represents a community or who works with parents and children knows that the reality is very different. The number of children who were notified that they did not have a school place last September was 126.”
“I thank the Labour Party for bringing forward this motion. I advise visitors and people watching the debate that it is not usual for a Minister to come here and say she does not disagree with anything in the motion and then oppose it. What is the difference between the Government motion and the Labour Party motion, which is similar to the Sinn Féin motion that was tabled in recent weeks? The first call on the Government by the Labour Party is to "ensure the right of every child to an appropriate school place in their general locality is fulfilled in September 2025". What is the first call of the Minister? It is to "take any necessary steps to ensure that every child with SEN who needs an appropriate school place has access to one in a timely manner". What is the difference?”
“Those aspects will comprise a minimum of 40%. There is a sense from teachers and educators that it is a ridiculous position to have as standard. I call on the Taoiseach to listen to the concerns of teachers and educators, to pause the senior cycle reform and to engage with educators across the board.”
“I welcome the establishment of a joint committee on artificial intelligence and wish the chair, Deputy Malcolm Byrne, well in his role. I am happy to be appointed to the committee by Deputy McDonald. I am also my party's education and youth spokesperson and attended the teachers' conferences held by the Association of Secondary Teachers Ireland, ASTI, and the Teachers Union of Ireland, TUI, last week. I heard first-hand the deep concerns about the potential use of AI. The Taoiseach referenced the digital divide and teachers have concerns that the current approach of the Minister to senior cycle reform, which is rushed and accelerated, will build advantage on advantage and disadvantage on disadvantage. There is an opportunity for the use of AI in additional assessment components and continuous assessment.”
“Last night in the Dáil, the Minister for Education doubled down on her intention to continue with the accelerated roll-out of senior cycle reform and a start date of September 2025. This is despite the significant concerns raised by school leaders across the State, including the tens of thousands of teachers who protested on this issue last November. On the current trajectory, they say we are building advantage on advantage and disadvantage on disadvantage. That is before we think of the impact of artificial intelligence. Last night the Minister talked more about engagement with unions but teachers, school leaders and unions are looking for a pause because some of their concerns cannot be addressed if the Minister pushes ahead with September implementation. Will the Taoiseach commit to that pause?”
“We need specific timelines and measures because we can all agree in the round here, and I do not disagree with a word that the Minister has said, but what we need from the Government is action and implementation on this. For example, while this is not the Minister's responsibility, we have light-touch regulation and it needs to be improved, with age verification and recommender settings. Children, not much older than junior to senior infants, potentially have access to pornography in their pockets. That has to be tackled. In the area of education, it is about embedding critical thinking and media literacy from the cradle to the grave. In Finland, they do it from preschool and they are at it for decades. That is something on which the Minister can personally take a lead. I would welcome working with her on that to transform this issue.”
“There are good international examples, such as in Finland. We should absolutely be world leaders. We have lots of tech here and we should lead in this space.”
“I thank the Minister. Children are being exposed to extreme violence, including sexual violence and pornography, and some social media platforms trade on hate and division. That has real implications where people are suggesting, and I do not disagree with them, that there is a very significant experiment with our children and policymakers are very often behind the curve. There is a challenge for all of us. I have quite a cynical view of voluntary codes and poorly accessed resources. I would be interested in the extent to which Webwise's resources are accessed and used because my sense is that it is not massive, and this also applies to the phone pouches. We need a comprehensive response here and we need media literacy to be embedded in our education system, from the cradle to grave. The Minister is well placed to do this.”
“What measures is the Minister taking to ensure children are protected and safe in the online world while at school, will she acknowledge that the €9 million phone pouches are an expensive distraction and that a more comprehensive response is required, and will she make a statement on the matter?”
“That is the scale of ambition that is required and sought, not just by Sinn Féin but also by teaching unions and school leaders.”
“The people who deserve a huge amount of credit here, given the financial pressure they are under, are school principals, school leaders and school communities. In many of these cases they are keeping schools operational that, without their effort, would be under the water. I recognise there have been increased levels of funding, but there has also been a far greater level of increase in demands, for example, insurance costs. I have figures that show many schools are spending at least 25% of their budget on insurance costs alone, before anything else. The world has changed. The Minister is talking about €30 million in additional funding. My party called for €150 million in additional funding and provided for that in our alternative budget.”
“The Minister has indicated the projected level of funding. With respect, we have all heard her response ten times over because it is the exact same response to every Deputy who has raised this matter. There is a significant problem and it needs an urgent response.”
“It is evident that the Minister is not doing enough and her plan is to continue to not do enough. In the past month, a cursory look at the Dáil Chamber showed that at least 15 TDs from every party raised funding concerns on behalf of dozens of local schools. In every case, it was about insufficient funding and money that was intended for programme A, whether that be educational disadvantage, summer works or hot school meals, being used instead for day-to-day running costs: wages, insurance, energy, electricity and heat. School leaders have handed over their books to local TDs and shown them what is happening. For example, it is not unusual for a school’s insurance costs to be in excess of 25% of its capitation. It is very clear that the current level of funding is wholly inadequate.”
“I wish to ask the Minister her views on the number of schools reporting funding crises related to increased energy, insurance and other costs and that have not been matched with increased central funding; if she is concerned with the number of schools referred to the financial services support unit, for example; how she intends to respond to this funding crisis; and if she will make a statement on the matter.”
“While I acknowledge the points the Minister of State has made, the Staleen water treatment plant to Windmill Hill reservoir project is a major project that is some 18 km long. The Minister of State has outlined the current position, which is that it is still at the stage of consultation with landowners. This is a massive project and it will take a long time but the residents and businesses in this area cannot wait a long time. I am making the case that we look at the project with a view to getting it from Staleen to beyond Duleek in the first instance. It cross-cuts with the existing network and there are points where it could tie back in with the existing network. However, that section of the project must be prioritised. We need to find a long-term solution and it needs to be delivered quickly due to these continued outages.”
“The solution is the immediate prioritisation or fast-tracking of the Staleen water treatment plant to Windmill Hill reservoir project. I want to put a couple of points on the record. A public meeting is scheduled on this issue for tomorrow week, Thursday, at 8.30 p.m. in the Duleek-Bellewstown community centre. I would encourage representatives of Uisce Éireann and the Minister or Minister of State with responsibility to attend that. The meeting is organised by Senator Sharon Keogan and it will be important to have cross-party representation, with all of our local representatives there and working with the local community to speak with one voice on this project. I would repeat the substantial point.”
“There is a way to phase this such that its delivery could be fast-tracked. I believe that is needed. I know there is a commitment from the Government in respect of the climate and infrastructure fund and the review of the national development plan. That is what is needed here.”
“It is clear that what is happening at the minute is that the water infrastructure and the mains between Stalleen and Duleek are creaking. I have colleagues and friends who are forensically familiar with the network. They will say that whole pipe, in that whole field, has been completely replaced because there have been so many bursts and the bursts just keep moving up the pipe. A patch-up job is happening and every patch-up leads to another burst and so on. It is frustrating for businesses, households, residents and everybody concerned. My specific ask on behalf of the community is that this project be identified as a priority, funded and fast-tracked for delivery. I am suggesting that this would involve phasing of it whereby this is not one single project which is 18 km long. There are proposals from Uisce Éireann.”
“The burst caused a flood in individual residences, flooding the house and garage, and everything that goes with that. I am sure some of the Minister of State's response will refer to the investment plan that exists. I acknowledge that. In the past, I have raised other issues in County Meath and they have successfully been progressed, for example, in Ashbourne and Ratoath. I know there are ongoing works for the improvement of the line between Duleek and Navan, for example. I know there is a commitment to improve the line between Stalleen and Windmill Hill reservoir, which the Minister of State will probably refer to. My concern is that it is at a very early stage. It is a large 18 km project and a major commitment to it is needed. The Government, the Department and Uisce Éireann need to look at the phasing of that.”