Sinéad Bradley
South Down · Social Democratic and Labour Party · Northern Ireland
“<BR /> <BR />Periods have had many different names and have come, as Emma correctly pointed out, in many different colours. Mostly, they were talked about in hushed tones, but that is no more.”
“I, too, support the Bill, and I thank Pat Catney, my friend and colleague, for introducing it. <BR /> <BR />As a Member who sat on the Justice Committee, I am all too aware of some of the harrowing circumstances that young women face every day.”
“Pat's charm allowed everybody to embrace what he is trying to achieve today. I genuinely mean this: the people of Lagan Valley served the House proud when they put Pat Catney here. It is having people like Pat, with a good heart and good intentions, in a place where change can happen that results in days like today.”
“I am privileged to support the motion on behalf of the SDLP. Like other Members of the House, I have heard at first hand about the horrendous and heinous acts that led to the Domestic Abuse and Civil Proceedings Act.”
“I thank Members across the Chamber for their kind words. <BR /> <BR />I suppose that all of us like to consider ourselves to be fair. I include myself in that.”
“I thank my party leader, Colum Eastwood, for hearing my calls, understanding the importance of the Narrow Water bridge and making sure that it was included in the New Decade, New Approach agreement.”
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“Pat's charm allowed everybody to embrace what he is trying to achieve today. I genuinely mean this: the people of Lagan Valley served the House proud when they put Pat Catney here. It is having people like Pat, with a good heart and good intentions, in a place where change can happen that results in days like today. Thank you, Pat, and thank you to every person in the House who spoke on the Bill and supported Pat in getting it to its Final Stage.”
“<BR /> <BR />Periods have had many different names and have come, as Emma correctly pointed out, in many different colours. Mostly, they were talked about in hushed tones, but that is no more. It is no more because people like Pat Catney, who were uncomfortable sitting in a room full of women — I think that he would admit that openly — found the confidence to say, "This is a wrong that needs to be righted, and I will do it". We were and are so proud of Pat for doing that, and we always will be. <BR /> <BR />If I may say so, plenty of private Members' Bills have come through the House, and, no doubt, plenty more will come, but very few will come with the charismatic style attached to them that only Pat Catney can deliver. Few will have every Member of the House sitting with a big grin on their face, regardless of the topic.”
“I, too, support the Bill, and I thank Pat Catney, my friend and colleague, for introducing it. <BR /> <BR />As a Member who sat on the Justice Committee, I am all too aware of some of the harrowing circumstances that young women face every day. While the Bill was passing through the Assembly, at the back of my mind was always that young girl who might have no access to funds of her own and is dependent on the goodwill of others. Now, with absolute dignity and no questions asked, she has access to period products, and that is because of Pat Catney. I commend Pat for recognising the plight of many women, and I focus on young girls, because, at that stage of life, they are perhaps the least comfortable and least empowered when it comes to managing their period.”
“He has been an enjoyable Chair, and, at times, we have been able to enjoy each other's company, shall I say, and, when appropriate, have a laugh along the way. I also thank Paul Givan, the previous Chair, who was equally concise on the detail, all the members of the Committee and those who ceased to be members during that time. <BR /> <BR />It really was a case of putting the shoulder to the wheel and delivering for victims. That is not always evident to those outside the House, but the victims who, unfortunately, will present in the future will have safeguards that were not there prior to this mandate. I will always be thankful that I was able to be a part of delivering that, and I thank everybody who played a role.”
“Sometimes, it can present itself in a behavioural outburst, and professional teachers and those in their charge will be alert to that and will know that that needs to be managed and that a disciplinarian approach is not appropriate. <BR /> <BR />I would like to take a moment to thank the Minister for her support throughout the mandate on the overwhelming body of work that has come through the Committee. I hope that, when everybody's day comes to say their final words in the House, they do it with the same sense of reward that I got and a sense of satisfaction that we have achieved something that really does help victims. <BR /> <BR />I also thank the Chair of the Committee, Mervyn, for repeatedly chairing the Committee in a very fair and measured fashion during his time in that role.”
“This is a very kind safeguarding piece. I appreciate that it is limited in what is perhaps relayed, but that is not necessarily a bad thing. It allows room for a bit of dignity, but it allows professional people to make a judgement and really safeguard the person in front of them. I think that everybody in the House, had they a child in their charge, would want to know if that child had been exposed to some sort of environment where they were feeling vulnerable or were presenting themselves in a way that maybe could not be explained. The preschool setting is particularly notable, because we can see all the little red flags such as no money, no uniform and no homework.”
“They would not be pleased with themselves if they did not have that information and, perhaps, put pressure on a child about their uniform or homework or for not bringing their lunch money or money for a school trip. There is a whole host of things, and teachers who are under pressure just want to get on with the day's education and the day's work.”
“I presume that it was 95 individuals — it could be a repeat of incidents — but, for 95 days, a child presented himself or herself in front of professional people in a school environment. For the first time, those people had an understanding that that child had come from an environment where something had happened. As professional people, they will have adjusted their behaviour to go beyond the role of educator. It allowed them to lean in further to the role of nurturing and protecting that child and offering all the safeguards that the home had failed to provide during the incident that led to the alert. That is something that teachers really want to do.”
“A video came through in the Committee pack. After we watched it and spoke to Linda, it was an absolute yes from us. Why would we not want to do that? It was such a critical piece in safeguarding any person who had been exposed to something or who was in an environment where something happened that should not have happened, and where a child would or would not present himself or herself to an educational establishment the next day. <BR /> <BR />I thank the Minister for her update on the pilot scheme and the 95 notifications in that one geographical area, which just happens to be an area neighbouring where I am from. I think of those 95 notifications and ask myself what they mean.”
“I thank Members across the Chamber for their kind words. <BR /> <BR />I suppose that all of us like to consider ourselves to be fair. I include myself in that. I am the first to shout when somebody tries to take credit for something that was not their doing, but I also like to think that I can acknowledge when somebody is persistent and does not let go of an issue and wants to see it delivered. I really have to commend Linda Dillon on this particular piece of work, because she would not let it go at Committee. Not only did she instigate its being brought to the table, but she worked collaboratively with everybody there to find ways of extending it. <BR /> <BR />We looked at finding victims in all settings and extending this to where those victims were. We took an Operation Encompass-plus approach.”
“I am privileged to support the motion on behalf of the SDLP. Like other Members of the House, I have heard at first hand about the horrendous and heinous acts that led to the Domestic Abuse and Civil Proceedings Act. Today's motion is a safeguarding piece that, quite rightly, ensures that those behaviours do not somehow become filtered out or lost. The motion will act, no doubt, to safeguard potential victims from people who have chosen to commit such heinous acts. The standard and enhanced systems are different in nature, and, if we do not step in to ensure that all these actions are captured and, more importantly, relayed to the appropriate authorities when application is made, that filtering out could happen. Therefore, the SDLP, in the knowledge that we are safeguarding victims, is pleased to support the motion.”
“Therefore, I thank Dorinnia Carville for applying and stepping forward, and I wish her the very best. I have no doubt that she will bring her continued professionalism, rigour and scrutiny to the role, and I wish her the very best in doing so.”
“Mr Deputy Speaker, thank you for providing me with the opportunity to put on record my thanks to the outgoing C&AG, Kieran Donnelly, and associate my name with the many positive words that have been spoken about him in the House today. As a resident of the Newry, Mourne and Down District Council area, I also speak for Marie Ward, the chief executive, and her team in that, whilst they wish Dorinnia Carville the very best, they recognise that they are losing someone very valuable to their team, She has, in her time there, offered a very reliable and professional service and has always been a pleasure to meet and work with in that capacity. I welcome the announcement today, and I assume that the appointment will proceed following this process.”
“<BR /> <BR />I wish everybody in the House well as they run or do not run for election. I trust that those coming forward will see the value of the work that was achieved at the end of this mandate and that they will bring vigour to, hopefully, a new Executive.”
“For me, that reflection has meant that I will not seek re-election on this occasion. <BR /> <BR />Of course, my family — my husband, John, and my son, Peadar — have paid a big price for me being here. Members will know exactly what I am referring to when I make that statement. I place my thanks to them on the record. <BR /> <BR />If I may, I will give one final word of thanks to my mother. It was her endless support, endless love, endless care and endless supply of dinners when I was not at home that allowed me to be here. Frankly, I think that that speaks to the experience of a lot of women in politics. There is a woman behind them who enables them to be here, and there comes a time when those women are entitled to be looked after. I put on record my thanks to Leontia.”
“They have delivered a professional service at all times of which I am very proud. My thanks to them could never be enough. <BR /> <BR />There was never a bigger champion of the Narrow Water bridge than my father, P J Bradley, a previous Member of the House. My role was merely to usher the work that he had previously brought to the House. The day on which I was elected was the day on which I laid him to rest. Tomorrow, during my final week, I will lay to rest one of the nicest people whom I have ever known: my Auntie Nora, his sister. That seems quite poignant. They were two very, very good people. They made quite an impression, and I think that everybody could learn something from them. There is nothing like the loss of a loved one to make all of us reflect on our priorities.”
“I thank my party leader, Colum Eastwood, for hearing my calls, understanding the importance of the Narrow Water bridge and making sure that it was included in the New Decade, New Approach agreement. I also thank Minister Mallon for stepping in and bringing the project back to where it should have been, because I was concerned that the previous Minister had entertained notions of a cycle bridge or walking bridge, which really would have failed to recognise what was trying to be achieved. Narrow Water bridge is very much back online, and the work with an Taoiseach’s office and the Irish Government has got it to a point of no return, about which I feel very content. <BR /> <BR />I also want to take a moment to thank my constituency office staff, Frances, Brenda and Deirdre, who have been exceptional.”
“I, too, begin by thanking the staff in the Building, who have facilitated not just me but my party colleagues and all Members of the House during the mandate. I will also take a step back and thank all those who elected me to the House on two occasions. It has been one of the greatest privileges ever. <BR /> <BR />I also want to take a moment to thank the people who assisted me in getting elected. I will take a moment, Mr Speaker, as you did, to thank people by name. I thank Roisin McCrink, Sean O’Hare, Seamus Doyle, Uncle Liam, Paddy McCoy and the whole team. They gave me unwavering support during all of my election campaigns. <BR /> <BR />During the mandate, I championed the fight against loneliness and was driven by trying to get the Narrow Water bridge back online.”
“I thank the Member for the answer. Let me say that £480,000 is a staggering amount, and it will, no doubt, increase. Will the Commission investigate why, on the hottest days of the year, the heating in the Building remains on? Can we find the "off" button, please?”
“I hope that they feel empowered by seeing that the decision that they took to engage has led to something worthwhile. I also hope that they take real comfort in knowing that they have done something to lay a path to safeguard the potential victims coming behind them.”
“People are due a right to safety and to protection from abuse. We in the SDLP have a long list of items that we would have loved to see in the Bill and that, sadly, did not make it, but today is not the day for that discussion. Today is a day for sending out the message that comes from the Bill. It starts here and now. To the people who are out to exploit society, I say that the Bill means that we are moving closer to you. We all have a part to play in sending out that message. <BR /> <BR />I will close by thanking all the victims who came on board by speaking to not just the Committee but the other organisations that helped shape the Bill. It is their experiences, sadly, that have brought us here. It is their lived experiences that made us realise that there was a need to take action in the first place.”
“They try to exploit people because they know that they are vulnerable. That is the key point. The Bill, from the first page to the last, includes efforts to reach vulnerable people of many ages and in different situations. We really need to remain mindful, through the Bill and the others connected to it, of all the vulnerable people who will, sadly, have to seek shelter. <BR /> <BR />The Bill is important legislation. I know that that is a phrase that is used in the House often. Most Bills tend to have an important objective behind them, but I truly believe that the weight of this Bill in changing the outcome for and the lives of many people should never be undervalued. It is designed to safeguard some of the most vulnerable people. That is why we particularly welcome its Final Stage today.”
“There are people who constantly measure the weaknesses in society and then exploit people when they hit a vulnerable point. I have no doubt that that is exactly what they will do to Ukrainian families, as people try desperately to find some type of home or stability for themselves and their children. I have no doubt that people are waiting to find what they can make good of that situation. We all have a duty, whether it is in this place or outside it, to play our part in preventing that. <BR /> <BR />As I said, the Bill is particularly timely in relation to the Ukrainian crisis. Traffickers offer false promises to people, such as employment, security and help, including help with reuniting victims, which could become a problem that we all need to get ahead of by keeping communication channels open.”
“I thank the Member for his worthy intervention. That is true: the notion that trafficking is only about people coming to us is a myth that has to be completely busted. Exploitative people know that those young people perhaps come from vulnerable backgrounds, so they target them. It is happening on our doorstep. We all need to be alert to that, and we need to put in place legislation that speaks directly to it. We have gone a significant way towards doing that. Every person has a part to play. It is not just to the legislators or the police: any person who suspects anything of that nature has a moral duty to step forward and make it known. I genuinely thank the Member for that intervention, and I appreciate the context in which it was made.”
“The provisions are particularly timely in the context of the Ukrainian crisis, as the Chair correctly pointed out. Watching the harrowing images from Ukraine, we can all see just how vulnerable those people have become so quickly. Almost overnight, people have gone from what appears to have been a normal day-to-day lifestyle to being thrown into the depths of the most vulnerable position that a person can be in.”
“I do indeed. I thank the Member for the intervention. The Chair and Committee members met the cybercrime unit. At times, it is, I believe, a harrowing job, but it is critical. The value of the Bill will depend heavily on how well resourced those officers are. It is absolutely correct to thank them, and I thank the Member for doing so. <BR /> <BR />The Bill also makes it a legislative requirement that victims of human trafficking be guaranteed up to 12 months' support and more if they should need it. That support can include access to healthcare, housing and legal and financial assistance. In particular, I welcome the provision that the support can exceed 12 months, as that vulnerable group will often have complex needs to which there can be no quick fix.”
“The provision is essential in the context of the soaring online child sexual abuse cases recorded by the police in Northern Ireland; in fact, figures obtained by the NSPCC show an 80% increase in cases over the past three years — and those are the reported cases. The police have indicated to us that they really do not know the scale of the problem. It has been reported that, during the pandemic, that online activity has become one of the largest problems in our society. The Bill goes some way to speaking to that.”
“<BR /> <BR />I sincerely, genuinely hope that the Bill's existence will, in itself, serve as a powerful catalyst for behavioural correction in society. Society at large needs to know, as a matter of urgency, that those engaging in such behaviours now have no place in which to hide: the "I was only joking" defence is no longer there; the banter defence has gone. <BR /> <BR />Everyone who has worked on the Bill will no doubt agree that an important piece of child protection legislation has been built in. It will add a further layer of protection for children who may be targeted by adults who, for example, may intend to groom them by pretending online to be children themselves.”
“<BR /> <BR />It is worth stressing that the hope is that the measures serve to deter such behaviour in the first place. We hope that the offences are never committed, but, just by having the Bill in place, we are looking to deter people from engaging in such offences. The new legislation undoubtedly sends a message that such behaviour is criminal, that it cannot be dismissed as banter or a joke and that it simply will not be tolerated. <BR /> <BR />Let us be absolutely clear about the issue of sexual images: obtaining images of another person's private parts without consent is never OK. When the Bill is enacted, that behaviour could be considered criminal. I want that clear message to leave the House today. That is what we are achieving by adding those conditions to the Bill.”
“Thank you. <BR /> <BR />At Final Stage, I particularly welcome the provisions on upskirting, downblousing and the sending of unwanted sexual images. We have heard from stakeholders about how those really invasive crimes have caused significant psychological and emotional harm to victims. It is, therefore, welcome that those offences are treated in a way that clearly underlines the severity of the crimes, which cause fundamental harm to the victims' sense of personal autonomy and safety. I record my sincere thanks to the stakeholders who advocated so passionately on behalf of the victims whose needs are at the heart of the Bill. I trust that the people who bared their souls to us and told us of their experience will see how, in doing so, their story has been heard and has affected the shape of the Bill.”
“We genuinely appreciated that. Rightly, members have singled out Stephanie Mallon, whom I thank repeatedly in the House. We are not far past International Women's Day, and, if ever there was an empowering woman in the House, it is Stephanie. She gives validity to people airing ideas in a safe space and being able to tease out issues. I commend Stephanie and her style of work.”
“Before I begin, I wish the Minister well. I believe that our Committee representative Doug Beattie from the UUP is also unwell, so I wish him well too. I welcome the representatives from CARE NI to the Public Gallery. <BR /> <BR />On behalf of the SDLP I welcome the Final Stage of the Justice (Sexual Offences and Trafficking Victims) Bill. I commend the work of the Assembly Clerks, the departmental officials — those whom we meet and the many who work behind the scenes whom we do not meet — the Bill Office, fellow Committee members and the Minister. The Chair rightly put on record his best wishes to Brian for his retirement. I count myself among those who leaned on Brian heavily and, perhaps, tested his patience at times, but it was always in good nature. He was a very important person to whom to relay thoughts.”
“The Chairperson spoke about the procedures in Standing Order 42A. We have made proposals in the report that could better bed down the system that is in place for recording the passage of LCMs, because, frankly, although we have been relying on the goodwill of others, very often, what has been done has fallen short. It is therefore time that we start to try to pin down the system better, because we cannot allow this dysfunctionality to continue.”
“<BR /> <BR />It has become apparent to us that timeliness is probably one of the biggest problems in the system and that Committees in this place are being presented with compressed time, if any at all, to give their consent to issues that can be quite complex and to which they have not had fair time to give due consideration. Members of this place have understandably been left feeling quite angst-ridden at the fact that things are happening elsewhere that relate directly to us and the people whom we serve but that we have been excluded from the conversation. That is simply not good enough.”
“On behalf of the SDLP, I thank the Chairperson of the Committee on Procedures for bringing forward the report. The SDLP is on record as having said often that LCMs are not the desired way in which to do business. However, we must all acknowledge that there are times when those methods are probably the only ones that will allow important legislation to pass and that it is therefore important that we get this right. <BR /> <BR />It has to be said that, often, when LCMs are not communicated well or the communication has broken down, it tends to feel disrespectful to Members across the House. I would go so far as to say that, at times, they could be described as nothing other than dysfunctional. It is important, therefore, that we look at this work and see how we can better connect this place to Westminster, which carries those LCMs.”
“I thank the Minister for answering the question because some of today's answers have not matched the questions in front of me. <BR /> <BR />With regard to this question, it would be helpful to have a timeline for that review. Will the Minister give an assurance that school nurture rooms are not used merely as a place to go because there is an absence of tailored SEN provision for many children? Will he also give an assurance that the layout of those nurture rooms will be, at a very minimum, at departmental standards?”
“Whilst Members may agree on the principle of what a Bill is trying to deliver, there can be complications that, quite frankly, end up eating up time on the Floor and add layers to what is already a very complex situation. <BR /> <BR />The report goes some way to speak to the difficulties that we found in the process. It speaks to private Members' Bills that make it this far, and many do not. If we have a more streamlined clarity of approach to deadlines and when Members should expect to present Bills to the Business Office and to the Speaker, that will make for better use of time on the Floor. We welcome the report today.”
“Unfortunately, it has left some of the Bills quite problematic. There is definitely work to be done, and the report tries to speak to refining the process and bringing things into line. <BR /> <BR />Nobody wants to prevent any Member from bringing forward a private Member's Bill, but we all recognise that, in resource terms, Departments are the best place to draft Bills. Although private Members can go off, hopefully having exhausted all possibilities of a sponsoring Department taking the lead, and do that piece of work, they work with the unit, which is very able but very stretched, as came to light in our findings for the report. If resource allows, Members, rightly, have access to independent drafters, but we are then met in the House with different styles.”
“I thank the Chair for presenting the report to the House. I support it on behalf of the SDLP. It was a timely piece of work, given the unusual mandate that it has been. Quite a large amount of work has been done on private Members' Bills across the House. I thank all those Members who fed into the Committee by speaking of their experiences. Most Members will be alert to the fact that, as much as there are plenty of private Members' Bills coming in, there are also a lot of different styles and processes behind each of those Bills.”
“It seems natural to extend the provisions to the end of the mandate, but I urge those tasked with the review to look at it in a wider context and see the many other advantages that have been enabled by the temporary provisions.”
“On behalf of the SDLP, I welcome the fourth extension of the provisions. I thank the Clerks, of the Committee and elsewhere, who, under stressful circumstances, were tasked with drafting the amendments to Standing Orders. Time has proven them to be successful on many counts, for reasons that should be considered in any future review. There is value in retaining some of the substance of the temporary provisions. It is fitting to thank the officials who stepped up at the time in order to safeguard not only the Members who access the Assembly but the many people who work in the Building. <BR /> <BR />We welcome the extension.”
“On behalf of the SDLP, I support the motion. It is a reasonable adjustment that not just speaks to the times that we are working in but allows democracy to run its course. It is about designation, and it allows for a fair measure to be taken before any systems that are dependent on it can be run. The SDLP supports the motion.”
“I did not intend to speak to the LCM other than to say that the SDLP has very much led on its concerns on this in Westminster. With the heavy caveats that have been laid there, we support it coming through the House in this guise.”
“If we can see trends and gather information, an annual review will lead us to a safer place and more timely implementation of the Bill. <BR /> <BR />It is very important legislation, which is focused on enhancing public safety and improving services for victims of trafficking and exploitation. It is, therefore, essential that the Bill progresses before the end of the mandate, and I particularly welcome the fact that we are at this stage today. I close my comments by saying that the SDLP will support the remaining, mostly technical, amendments that are in this group.”
“I also hear the Minister when she speaks of her commitment to finding a way forward that is human-rights compliant, does not over-criminalise and does not compromise the commencement or operation of this critical legislation. <BR /> <BR />Given that those amendments are not being moved today, the SDLP firmly believes that the emphasis on the monitoring and reporting becomes all the more critical. I hear what the Minister says and her comments about when something is not included or has been deliberately excluded, but I am genuinely and firmly of the belief that the need for an annual review speaks to the timeliness in the need for a review, because we do not want a situation where we have to act retrospectively.”
“The inclusion of this amendment will send a clear and unambiguous message that cyber-flashing is deemed to be so unacceptable that it has warranted inclusion in our statute books. <BR /> <BR />I know that it is not common practice, but it is important to acknowledge the amendments that are not being moved, purely because I believe that there is a link directly to amendment No 20, which concerns reporting. For good reason — I believe that it is with an absolute level of regret — we have been unable to proceed with those amendments, but I note the Department's recognition of the objectives that they tried to secure in widening the scope on the abuse of trust element.”
“It appears that, unfortunately, as with many sexual offences, women, and young women in particular, disproportionately face the highest rates of victimisation. We have heard evidence as to the ongoing trauma that can result from the receipt of such images. <BR /> <BR />The need for the inclusion of this offence was very clear, as it is uncertain whether the current legislation covering exposure is adequate to cover that offence — whether it covers non-live acts, such as photos and videos. I am delighted to support the inclusion of that offence, which is novel to this place. It has been raised in other parts, but Northern Ireland is certainly leading the way. The expressed will of the Assembly across many debates has been to intervene and ensure that the safeguarding of women and girls becomes a priority.”
“If you do not mind me saying so, Mr Deputy Speaker — and I say this quite firmly — having listened to the stakeholders and victims' engagement, it has to be said that, without exception, there is absolutely no laughing matter about any of the offences that are being created. I genuinely welcome the fact that we have these amendments in front of us today. <BR /> <BR />I move on to the amendment relating to cyber-flashing. The term "cyber-flashing" is used to refer to a range of behaviours, but it most commonly involves a man sending an unsolicited picture of his genitals to a woman. Cyber-flashing can be distinguished from other forms of intimate image abuse where the victim is the subject of the image. With cyber-flashing, the victim is not the subject of the image but rather the recipient.”
“That provision is to be warmly welcomed as, sadly, sexual offences online continue to grow at an alarming rate. <BR /> <BR />I turn specifically to the amendments. Amendment Nos 1 through to 11 set the context for the application that introduces the action of recklessness. I will not repeat the great deal of debate that led us to this point, but the introduction of recklessness found us a reasonable landing place in trying to pin down what we were trying to achieve at Committee. As others have indicated, these amendments were drafted to widen the scope of the offence so that the so-called banter or joking defence could not be used.”
“It also includes provisions arising from the outcome of a review of the law on child sexual exploitation and sexual offences against children. <BR /> <BR />Other provisions include the creation of the new offence of upskirting and downblousing, and the proposed offence, which is in this group of amendments, of cyber-flashing. These provisions are to be welcomed and are long overdue. However, a comment that I will make repeatedly is regarding the absolute need for the inclusion of this type of Bill and law in a really well-rounded relationships and sexuality education (RSE) scheme in schools. <BR /> <BR />Among other things, the Bill is important in that it provides a further layer of protection for children who may be targeted by adults who, for example, may attempt to groom a child by pretending to be a child themselves online.”