Katie Hagmann
Scottish National Party · Scotland
“I welcome the ambitions of the Good Food Nation (Scotland) Act 2022. I also welcome the fact that the good food nation plans will be expected to have regard to “the role of a sustainable food system”.”
“When I consider the opportunities that have been brought forward by investments in the renewables sector, I am delighted to see that communities are being reimagined and revitalised. Locally, in CCDV, we have a group of nine community councils that have agreed to work together.”
“Devastation, lost opportunity and a deep sense of betrayal are very much still felt, as I heard directly from people on the doorsteps during my campaign.”
“The evidence is abundantly clear: from the work of countless scientific professionals, following evidence, scientific professional advice and research, to the experiences of those who are living with life-changing and life-threatening effects in Scotland and across the globe, we know that climate change constitutes a global emergency, and…”
“I am drawn to the final clauses of the motion, which state: “the transformative opportunities presented by climate action, including significant economic, social, environmental and public health benefits, and acknowledges that delivery of the transition must be fair and inclusive for all.” I whole-heartedly agree with that statement and c…”
“I welcome the statement and the confirmation that the Scottish Government will work with local government, COSLA and the Improvement Service, but can the cabinet secretary say what dialogue there has been with local government so far, and how the Scottish Government will ensure that a collaborative approach is taken in recognising the imp…”
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“I welcome the ambitions of the Good Food Nation (Scotland) Act 2022. I also welcome the fact that the good food nation plans will be expected to have regard to “the role of a sustainable food system”. When will the Scottish Government introduce secondary legislation under the 2022 act, to ensure that the plans can be developed within relevant authorities? Jim Fairlie: The process is ongoing as we speak. There is a desire to make good-quality local food accessible through the good food nation plans across the country.”
“The group is fair and transparent, and it uses an agreed framework with a clear distribution of funds, which leads to equity and avoids competition, meaning that everyone benefits. There is local control and democratic leadership, because decisions are controlled by the community councils. There is also collaboration across communities, strengthening those communities and creating a shared voice with greater influence. Put simply, that turns community benefit into long-term, fair—”
“When I consider the opportunities that have been brought forward by investments in the renewables sector, I am delighted to see that communities are being reimagined and revitalised. Locally, in CCDV, we have a group of nine community councils that have agreed to work together. They use the line “Uniting our Communities – Investing in our Future”. It is wonderful to see former coalfield communities speaking with a strong, collective voice. The 9CC Group is widely considered to be an exemplar of best practice in using community benefit. Having met the team on the ground, I can see why. It is strategic in nature, ensuring that, instead of working in isolation, communities invest funding in long-term regeneration across the whole area. That includes working with the local council and supporting apprenticeships across businesses.”
“Devastation, lost opportunity and a deep sense of betrayal are very much still felt, as I heard directly from people on the doorsteps during my campaign. Finlay Carson: To turn that comment on its head, what about the total disregard for communities, including the one that Katie Hagmann used to live in, round about Newton Stewart, where people feel completely and utterly ignored when it comes to having massive renewables infrastructure right on their doorstep? Katie Hagmann: I am not in this Parliament to speak for Dumfries and Galloway Council, but I put on the record that I am a councillor in Dumfries and Galloway. There is a planning procedure in place, which is debated, and Dumfries and Galloway Council will certainly make representations. However, I do not recognise the situation that Mr Carson refers to.”
“I am drawn to the final clauses of the motion, which state: “the transformative opportunities presented by climate action, including significant economic, social, environmental and public health benefits, and acknowledges that delivery of the transition must be fair and inclusive for all.” I whole-heartedly agree with that statement and can give a wonderful example of such opportunities in action in relation to investment in renewables. In my constituency of Carrick, Cumnock and Doon Valley, many communities were built on the back of industry and coal mining. Those communities powered Scotland for generations but were abandoned under successive Conservative Governments, and industry was torn out with little or no regard for the people who depended on it.”
“The evidence is abundantly clear: from the work of countless scientific professionals, following evidence, scientific professional advice and research, to the experiences of those who are living with life-changing and life-threatening effects in Scotland and across the globe, we know that climate change constitutes a global emergency, and I am glad that we are recognising that today in our Scottish Parliament. Although the challenges that we collectively face are immense, Scotland has the opportunity to show leadership. I am proud that the SNP will not shy away from that but will take action. Combining our ambitious net zero targets with our commitment to a just transition, we will ensure that delivering jobs, investment and fairness for communities remains at the forefront of all our climate action.”
“I put on the record how disappointed and, frankly, staggered I have been by some of the language that has been used in this debate. To refer to climate change as a faith-based belief is not only baffling and disrespectful but dangerous. Duncan Massey: Will the member take an intervention? Katie Hagmann: I will not take the intervention. That said, although I recognise and condemn the spread of misinformation, as other speakers in this debate have outlined, I am not seeking to justify or determine the legitimacy of the climate emergency.”
“Kristopher Leask asked previously about local government’s role, and I gave an answer that talked about some of the software challenges that we have seen across the country. There has been recent progress from local government to establish the strategic case for change around the collection of non-domestic rates, which is important. I am very supportive of progress in that area more broadly. We need an NDR billing system that delivers accurate bills on time, all the time, and I am very clear that we cannot do that without local government.”
“I welcome the statement and the confirmation that the Scottish Government will work with local government, COSLA and the Improvement Service, but can the cabinet secretary say what dialogue there has been with local government so far, and how the Scottish Government will ensure that a collaborative approach is taken in recognising the importance of that funding? Jenny Gilruth: Local government is inherently important to how we drive the improvements that we need in non-domestic rates, and local government was the first stakeholder that I met in my new role. Mr McKee and I met representatives last week to talk about public service reform, in which local government will play a really important role in the coming months.”
“I draw members’ attention to my entry in the register of members’ interests, which states that I am a councillor in Dumfries and Galloway Council. This point has been touched on several times this afternoon, but I note the importance of non- domestic rates to local councils. I am aware that local government was keen to ensure that it would be a key partner in work on reform, and there was a previous ambition to ensure that NDR would sit within the local government fiscal framework.”
“That supports families on low incomes with the cost of childcare specifically, and that allows us to better understand how to expand childcare. The projects that are funded through the fund are about flexible delivery, specialist services for children and whole-family support, but within that there is also a focus on increasing access to outdoor provision for families who are most likely to be living in poverty. I give Katie Hagmann an assurance that, as education secretary, I will be a proponent of outdoor education.”
“I thank the member for raising this question and I thank the cabinet secretary. I am heartened to hear of the pilots that have been referenced, including at the Yard and its adventure play centre. Will the Scottish Government, when it is considering improved access for children with autism to after-school care and holiday clubs, give weight at every step to the opportunities that outdoor and nature-based learning bring? Màiri McAllan: Personally, I am a massive advocate for children and young people—and, indeed, all of us—spending time in the outdoors and in nature. It is very renewing for us all. I have said a bit about our early-adopter communities. I would also point to the £4.5 million access to childcare fund that we have been providing since 2020.”
“I am deeply committed to that through my ongoing engagement with South of Scotland Enterprise. With regard to the specific points that have been raised in the question, ScotRail reviews its services regularly to ensure that they meet passenger demand and, wherever possible, adjusts its services accordingly. We are committed to improving services for passengers in Scotland, which is reflected in our sustained investment. I recognise the specific points that Ms Hagmann raises and I will ask officials to pass them on to the cabinet secretary. Islamic Cemeteries and Burial Grounds 9.”
“I thank Mr Kerr for his initial question and the minister for his response. I am particularly pleased to hear about the transformation of rail in the Scottish Borders. Will the Scottish Government consider the wider implications of rural connectivity across the south of Scotland, giving particular attention to rail, including in my constituency? Although trains to Ayr and Kilmarnock are good and frequent, the services south of Ayr—through Maybole and Girvan, and south of Kilmarnock, through Auchinleck and New Cumnock—are particularly limited. Tom Arthur: The Government is committed to ensuring that all parts of Scotland are fully supported with regard to their connectivity, recognising the vital importance of effective, sustainable connectivity to economic growth and development.”
“Adults who might have coped their entire lives might find themselves in crisis or slowly drowning in circumstances in which they had never expected to find themselves. Their normal coping methods might suddenly no longer work, and they might be unable to navigate their life with the certainty that they once had. That is a terrifying prospect for anyone. Whether it is for our young people or our adults, let us ensure that we remember those core values. Let us remember to have vision, to be brave and to serve with compassion and integrity. 18:26”
“How can we value creativity more in order to harness the complex and wonderful minds of those with neurodevelopmental conditions while simultaneously better equipping our young learners with the tools to navigate this increasingly artificial intelligence-powered world? Compassion and integrity remain at the core of the challenge that we face. When young people are struggling without support, at times, judgment and frustration might be felt by those around them, families might be flung into crisis and school systems might fail. We must remember that this is not a choice for the individual. They are not being difficult; they are simply trying to navigate a life and a world that has not been built for them.”
“I was proud to stand on a Scottish National Party manifesto that set out that vision, making it clear that we need to take action by adopting the four- tier national pathway that was set out by the Royal College of Psychiatrists. We need to be brave and acknowledge that the current system is not working. We need to be brave by exploring other ways to support our young people and adults, especially those in tier 1, at which level people can be offered support with or, importantly, without a diagnosis. Can we be brave—or even radical—and consider reforming our education system? Can we incorporate outdoor, nature-based learning into our core curriculum on a daily basis? Can we ensure that sport and movement—both of which have been shown to be beneficial to us all— become part of everyone’s daily habits?”
“I welcome the opportunity to add to this important members’ business debate. I want those who are directly affected by the issue that we are discussing to know that their experiences will be listened to in the Parliament. The issue affects not only our young people and adults in our communities, but everyone around them—their families, siblings, parents, children, partners and even their friends and colleagues. I suspect that no one is left untouched by it. I am an optimist, so, rather than focusing on the challenges that we face, I want to look at some potential solutions. In my first speech, I spoke about serving with vision, bravery, compassion and integrity, and all those traits must be brought into the debate. Having a bold vision of how we can improve the current situation is vital.”
“To ask the Scottish Government whether it will provide an update on the work carried out by the Scottish transport emissions partnership in relation to local air quality management. (S7O-00067)”
“I welcome further steps to explore how we can go further, whether in the current devolution settlement or with the full fiscal powers of Scottish independence. The debate is not ultimately about tax; it is about dignity, fairness, respect and the country that we know that Scotland can become. If we truly believe that we are all Jock Tamson’s bairns, we must also believe that prosperity should be shared, that opportunity should be available to all and that those who have benefited from our society should contribute fairly to sustaining it for us all. 15:37”
“For the first time in my life, I am in the higher tax bracket, and I am quite comfortable about that. My son benefits from free university tuition. Almost a year to the date, I was sitting with my terrified mum in surgery school, preparing for her life-saving cancer treatment in our incredible NHS. Thanks to the cancer treatment pathways that are available, she is able to watch me online giving this speech today. I passionately believe in fair, progressive and sustainable taxation to support the delivery of our public services. I welcome the progress that has been made towards a private jet tax and a mansion tax, particularly given that the mansion tax funds will go directly towards local areas. However, as is set out in the Scottish Government’s motion, we must recognise that Scotland’s current powers are limited.”
“I fought for front-line services and worked cross-party. I gave evidence to committees in the Parliament, and I often shared the stark financial reality that some local authorities are facing. When I gave evidence to MSPs, one question that I was often asked was, “Where is the extra money to come from?” It was a fair and necessary question. I welcome the record-high funding for local government. However, after years of Westminster austerity, and due to the constraints of devolution, the Scottish Government and local government face immensely challenging fiscal realities. It is imperative that we are bold and brave and explore progressive wealth taxation. By asking those with the broadest shoulders to pay a little bit more, we can deliver stronger services and help the less well-off to not only survive but thrive.”
“Nestled in the heart of my constituency lies the small village of Dailly, which is the birthplace of the Rev John Thomson, the 19th century minister whose name has forever been associated with the well-known Scottish phrase “We’re aw Jock Tamson’s bairns”. That phrase speaks to something fundamental about Scotland and the progressive values that we hold dear. No matter our background or where we come from, we are all equal in worth and we are all deserving of dignity. Governments must match progressive values by making progressive choices. Wealth taxation for public services is one of those choices. I come to the debate in a unique position. For the past nine years, I have served as a councillor in local government, including time as the Convention of Scottish Local Authorities resources spokesperson.”
“Elena led with tenacity, intellect, kindness and compassion. I send her my best wishes for the next chapter in her life and thank her for her service. Carrick, Cumnock and Doon Valley was also the constituency of the formidable late Jeane Freeman. Jeane led on the creation of Social Security Scotland, enshrining her own values of dignity, fairness and respect in Scotland’s legislation. As Cabinet Secretary for Health and Sport, Jeane steered us through the worst of the Covid pandemic with those values. She co- founded Women for Independence, ensuring that women’s voices were brought into the independence debate. She was a giant of a woman, and I will forever be guided and inspired by her lifelong commitment to public service, social justice and fairness. That sense of fairness is, I believe, central to the debate.”
“What a constituency it is: from Culzean castle on the Ayrshire coast, gazing out to the iconic silhouette of Ailsa Craig and across to Turnberry, which is the birthplace of Robert the Bruce, to, in the north, Mauchline and Scotland’s national monument to Robert Burns, before moving through the proud industrial heritage of Cumnock and to the stunning beauty of Loch Doon in the heart of the Galloway forest park. I am continually inspired by the history, culture, natural beauty and, above all, the people and the communities that define Carrick, Cumnock and the Doon Valley. I am stepping into the role and picking up the baton from two incredible women in Scottish politics. My predecessor, Elena Whitham, devoted herself to public service, having worked in Scottish Women’s Aid, across local government and as an MSP and minister.”
“I am thrilled, humbled and, if I am honest, mildly terrified to be giving my first speech in our Scottish Parliament. First, I congratulate the Deputy Presiding Officer on her new role, as well as Jenny Gilruth on her role as Cabinet Secretary for Finance and Local Government and Deputy First Minister. I thank the people of Carrick, Cumnock and Doon Valley for placing their trust in me. What an enormous privilege it is to be trusted to serve. The First Minister has spoken of the responsibility of public service, and that responsibility requires vision, bravery, compassion and integrity. That deep sense of duty sits with me each and every day. It is what drives me and it is what I will put into practice as the MSP for the constituency.”
“I, Katie Elise Hagmann, do solemnly, sincerely and truly declare and affirm, that I will be faithful and bear true allegiance to His Majesty King Charles, his heirs and successors, according to law.”