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Martin McCluskey

MP for Inverclyde and Renfrewshire West · Labour · United Kingdom

IN THEIR OWN WORDS

“Member’s questions about the methodology and why we are, in his words, supporting heat batteries ahead of other forms of electric heating, the responses to the consultation we ran in 2025 showed broad support for expanding the scheme to additional electric technologies.”

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“It was only after that deliberation that we decided to include heat batteries in the boiler upgrade scheme. On his final question around the value of the £2,500 grant, we arrived at that number largely because it was judged to be the best amount, given the lower cost of heat batteries versus heat pumps.”

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“The draft regulations are an important enabling step towards the future inclusion of heat batteries within the scheme, helping to ensure that consumers can benefit from a wider range of low-carbon heating technologies.”

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“I welcome the hon. Member for Hinckley and Bosworth to his new role. I am sure this will be the first of many Committees in which we will face each other. Turning to the hon. Member’s points, he obviously heard what I had to say yesterday about departmental budgets.”

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“I gently say to him that his party had 14 years in Government in which to reduce the spark gap and did not make much progress. Since we have been in Government, we have made sure that the reduction in levies has fallen heavily on the electricity bill rather than just on gas, and also adopted contracts for difference and encouraged compani…”

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“The draft regulations amend section 100 of the Energy Act 2008, which provides powers for the Secretary of State to establish “a scheme to facilitate and encourage renewable generation of heat” in England and Wales. At present, those powers apply only in relation to specified technologies and energy sources.”

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  1. “Motorists across the UK will have greater visibility on the range of choice available to them, and retailers will be incentivised more than ever to offer more affordable prices in a more competitive market. The regulations will require all petrol filling stations in the UK to register and report changes to their fuel prices within 30 minutes of a change. The information will be freely available almost in real time. That marks a fundamental step to restoring competition and fairness in a market that has proved that it will not self-correct without Government intervention. By making this information openly available to any third parties that request it, we will enable the market to integrate the data into digital mapping services and vehicle satellite navigation services to help motorists to locate the best prices in their area.”

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  2. “My job as the Minister for Energy Consumers and the job of the Government is to change that picture and to protect households from price hikes, and that is why we are delivering change to protect consumers, to put an end to unfair pricing practices and to increase transparency in the fuel retail market. In line with the CMA’s recommendations in the road fuel market study, we are rolling out a statutory open data scheme for fuel prices at the end of the year. These regulations will replace the CMA’s current voluntary scheme and mark a decisive step forward in empowering motorists across the UK to compare prices easily and to make informed choices about where they purchase their fuel.”

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  3. “Between 2021 and 2022, the price of petrol and diesel rose by more than 60p a litre, driven by global supply and demand shocks stemming from the covid-19 pandemic and the Russian invasion of Ukraine. In 2022, drivers paid an estimated £900 million more at the pumps across major supermarket retailers than in the previous year. By 2023, higher fuel margins across the whole market had cost drivers a further £1.6 billion. The Competition and Markets Authority found that price rises for fuel and disparities between prices at a local level were driven by major retailers using the volatile backdrop and the lack of transparency to increase their profit margins unfairly and at the expense of consumers across the UK, contributing to the cost of living crisis and the hardship that families up and down the country have felt in recent years.”

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  4. “I beg to move, That the Committee has considered the draft Motor Fuel Price (Open Data) Regulations 2025. It is a pleasure to serve under your chairmanship, Ms Lewell, in my first Statutory Instrument Committee as Minister for Energy Consumers. Through these regulations, we will establish the legislative basis for creating a statutory open data scheme called Fuel Finder, which will increase fuel price transparency across all UK petrol filling stations, empowering consumers to compare prices on a near real-time basis. In recent years, fuel prices have risen and that has had a profound impact on households, businesses and communities across the UK, as I am sure Committee members have witnessed in their constituencies. In my constituency, the Greenock Telegraph has run a very active campaign for years on fuel pricing.”

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  5. “Member towards part 6 of the instrument, which gives details on enforcement. I do not share the hon. Member’s concerns. Concerns were raised about amenities. It is clear, both from what the CMA has already published and from the impact assessment and explanatory memorandum, that a proportionate approach will be taken to any enforcement, on a case-by-case basis. The published guidance has been clear about that, which hopefully reassures those who have raised concerns about the amenities being included. We are, and have been, actively engaging on amenities, but it is also important to note that amenities were consulted on as part of the consultation exercise that was undertaken, so it is not quite right to say that there has been no consultation with industry on this point.”

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  6. “It would likely be quite difficult to put margin transparency in place in the current scheme until we have Fuel Finder operational, but it will be included in the CMA’s annual report. On the legal requirement around whether or not fuel is available at a particular filling station, that point was raised during the consultation and examined by officials. A thorough analysis was done of how easy, or not, it would be to collect that information. The determination was made that, although the request for inclusion is well intentioned—and I can understand it; it would be useful information—it would be very technically difficult to include it on a real-time basis in the scheme, which could potentially undermine a lot of the other measures that we are trying to ensure as part of the scheme. On enforcement, I would point the hon.”

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  7. “That was detailed, if nothing else. It is refreshing to hear those on the Conservative Benches back their own policies in opposition. At the moment in my brief, I am more used to hearing Conservative Front Benchers disavow the policies of the previous Government in my Department. The shadow Energy Secretary could learn from this breakout of consensus. I will begin by responding to the points of the spokesperson for the official Opposition, the hon. Member for Mid Buckinghamshire. If I neglect to answer any of those points, he should please intervene to remind me of anything I did not scribble down quickly enough. The CMA annual report will address margin transparency and the other issues that he laid out.”

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  8. “Now more than ever we need to protect households and businesses from pricing practices and deliver change to reverse the sharp spikes in road fuel prices in recent years. I commend the draft regulations to the Committee. Question put and agreed to.”

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  9. “VE3 Global specialises in digital transformation, data aggregation and cloud-based solutions, so it has lots of experience in this area. The right hon. Member also asked a final question on guidance. We will publish the guidance and training before the whole programme is rolled out, so that people can have some certainty and assistance. As I said, we understand that this is a change for businesses, and certainly represents a change to business as usual, so we want to make sure that people are properly guided and trained. I thank hon. Members for their valuable contributions to the debate and the questions they raised. I also thank the Lib Dem spokesperson for her support of the statutory instrument. I conclude by reaffirming our commitment to creating a firm and transparent UK road fuel market.”

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  10. “That is why we are, and will continue to be, in constant engagement with industry on amenities. Let me address the points made by the right hon. Member for Melton and Syston. The rationale for worldwide turnover is commonly understood, and already used within the industry. That is why that measure was selected. On the concerns around rurality, there will be other mechanisms for people to feed in that do not rely on, for example, an internet connection. People will be able to text the price in real time, and able to use a telephone service—though we do not actually think that there will be an issue with wi-fi, because lots of rural fuel stations will use wi-fi for their payment systems. VE3 Global was appointed as the successful supplier to become the aggregator of Fuel Finder.”

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  11. “Ensuring that everyone has access to a safe and warm home is our priority. From this winter, we estimate that an extra 280,000 families in the north-west will receive £150 off their energy bills, thanks to decisions taken by this Government. Through our warm homes plan, we will bring down bills for families right across the country.”

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  12. “We will bring forward the warm homes plan this year. In March, we allocated around £1.8 billion to local authorities and social housing providers through the warm homes local grant. The hon. Member may want to direct his constituents to the Greater Manchester combined authority, which received a settlement of £134.9 million of devolved capital funding for buildings retrofit. They can access that through the retrofit portal, which has an eligibility checker, so that households can check whether they qualify for free or discounted home upgrades.”

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  13. “From this winter, an additional 2.7 million households across the UK will receive £150 off their energy bills, which makes a total of nearly 6 million low-income households receiving this vital support. That is the difference that this Government are making to our communities.”

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  14. “I pay tribute to my hon. Friend for all his work championing causes for his constituents. He will know that an extra 280,000 households in the north-west will be eligible for the warm home discount, and that 2.7 million households across the country will be helped this year. I would be more than happy to meet my hon. Friend to discuss the case of Mr Gumbridge. Ensuring confidence in the insulation system will be crucial to rolling out the warm homes plan.”

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  15. “I thank my hon. Friend for his comments on my liberation from the Government Whips Office. I know that he is a champion for his constituents in Newcastle-under-Lyme, and I am always happy to meet to discuss these important issues. He will know, as I do, that with wholesale gas costs 77% higher than before the Russian invasion of Ukraine, we must get people off the rollercoaster of fossil fuel prices and on to clean home-grown power.”

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  16. “The cost of energy has to come down, and one of my jobs as Minister for energy consumers is driving down the cost of bills, but we must also remember that the Government introduced a windfall tax on the oil and gas companies, and we have the price cap on energy, which caps the profits of energy companies. We will continue to take that action.”

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  17. “We are taking action through the warm home discount, which is being provided to an extra 2.7 million households across the country, and the warm homes plan, which we will roll out before the end of the year.”

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  18. “High and volatile energy prices are bad for growth, take money out of consumers’ pockets and make our businesses less competitive. Through our mission to achieve clean power by 2030, we are taking the country off the rollercoaster of global fossil fuel prices and have set a route to home-grown cheap and greener energy.”

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  19. “Like the hon. Member, I understand people’s frustration when they look at their energy bills each month. [ Interruption. ] That promise stands. That is why we are taking concerted action through the warm home discount, which is providing 2.7 million households with support this winter, and the warm homes plan, which we will roll out this year.”

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  20. “Hundreds of thousands of jobs will come from the clean power revolution. That is why it is so important that we push ahead with it and do not adopt the tactics of the Conservative party, or their friends on the Back Benches. We need to push ahead with clean power in order to unlock those hundreds of thousands of jobs across the country.”

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  21. “The right hon. Lady’s comparison is absolute nonsense, and she knows it. She compares the cost of building and operating new renewables, which is what the contract for difference relates to, with the cost of operating—not building—gas plants. Once we make a fair comparison, the truth is that renewables are cheaper to build. We will take no lessons on energy policy from the Conservative party, which abandoned its commitment to clean energy at its party conference.”

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  22. “The Government believe that our mission to deliver clean power by 2030 is the best way to break our dependence on global fossil fuel markets and protect bill payers permanently. We recognise that we need to support households struggling with bills while we transition to clean power. That is why we are expanding the warm home discount to around an additional 2.7 million households.”

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  23. “I join the hon. Gentleman in praising the whole congregation and community at St Bartholomew’s in Winchester for supporting those efforts. Such efforts by community and faith groups across the country show the support that exists for taking the right action, not just on clean power but on insulation. The warm homes plan and other plans that the Department will publish before the end of the year will address some of the issues he talks about in respect of historic buildings.”

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  24. “We are currently consulting on extending the warm home discount beyond 2026. I would encourage the hon. Lady to look at that consultation and feed back her views. The warm homes plan is the route to some of the actions that she has outlined and we will be publishing it before the end of the year.”

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  25. “Since I became a Minister four weeks ago, I have received a lot of correspondence on this issue and I am looking at it closely. We have consulted on the issue and, hopefully, we will be publishing the results of that consultation before the end of the month.”

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  26. “I share my hon. Friend’s concern about the findings in today’s National Audit Office report. Obviously, we inherited this situation from the previous Government and we are cleaning up their mess. It is important that we have robust protections in place for consumers so that they have confidence when installing these measures. The warm homes plan will address that, including through the consumer protections that we will outline as part of it.”

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  27. “I agree with my hon. Friend. Hundreds of thousands of jobs will come as a result of our sprint to clean power by 2030, not just in his constituency but across the entire country. What will not take us to those hundreds of thousands of jobs is the Conservative party abandoning its commitment to the Climate Change Act 2008. From hug a husky to burning the Climate Change Act—that is not the transition that we expected.”

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  28. “Having been in this job for only four and half weeks, I am always in the market for good ideas, whichever part of the House they come from. The £13.2 billion warm homes plan will do exactly what the hon. Lady wants us to do—safely insulating homes and getting people to take the action we need them to take to achieve clean power 2030. Importantly, the plan will create homes, businesses and properties that are warm and affordable, powered by sustainable clean energy.”

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  29. “Let me be absolutely clear: no family should ever have had to go through this. It happened because of the systematic failings of the system put in place by the previous Government, and we are cleaning up their mess. We will do that at no cost to consumers, and I am happy to meet the hon. Member to discuss any cases that he might have in his constituency.”

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  30. “As the Minister for Energy Consumers, I am totally focused on how we bring bills down. Ofgem has already released information about how it will be providing a low standing charge tariff from January. We will also publish the warm homes plan before the end of the year. The warm home discount, which I encourage my hon. Friend to encourage her constituents to apply for, is providing additional support to 2.7 million households.”

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  31. “Since taking up my post four weeks ago, I have been dealing with the issue of radio teleswitch. I am more than happy to meet the right hon. Member to discuss the plans, and will soon be organising a roundtable with Members on both sides of the House to discuss them further.”

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  32. “This order amends section 67(2) of the Scotland Act 1998 and, if made, would increase the cumulative resource borrowing limit from £1,779.351 million to £1,834.303 million. It would also increase the cumulative capital borrowing limit from £3,050.316 million to £3,144.519 million.”

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  33. “Member for Berwickshire, Roxburgh and Selkirk in May 2024—this order, if made, will increase the Scottish Government’s cumulative capital and resource borrowing limits to reflect inflation. The draft order would be made under sections 67 and 67A of the Scotland Act 1998, which set out the amounts available to borrow under section 66. As specified in these sections, we are bringing forward this order with the consent of the Treasury. Turning briefly to the detail of the order, in the 2023 agreement, the UK Government agreed to amend the Scotland Act 1998 to increase these limits as necessary. The 2023 agreement sets out the cumulative limits for capital and resource borrowing. This order will increase these limits based on the Office for Budget Responsibility’s GDP deflator forecast at the time of the Scottish Government’s draft budget.”

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  34. “The Scottish Government’s borrowing powers apply to both resource and capital and, as agreed between the Governments, are limited. In resource borrowing, the Scottish Government may pursue borrowing within the limits for in-year cash management and for forecast error in relation to devolved and assigned taxes and demand-led welfare expenditure that arise in specific circumstances. Capital borrowing is again set by the limits in legislation, and they are in addition to the Scottish Government’s block grant. The draft order deals with the cumulative borrowing limits for the Scottish Government. As with the increase in borrowing limits introduced by the Scotland Act 1998 (Increase of Borrowing Limits) Order 2024—introduced by the hon.”

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  35. “I beg to move, That the Committee has considered the draft Scotland Act 1998 (Increase of Borrowing Limits) Order 2025. It is a pleasure to serve under your chairmanship, Mr Efford. This draft order was laid before the House on 23 April 2025, and I am grateful for the opportunity to debate it today. As with all Scotland Act orders that have appeared before Committees in this Session, it is the result of collaborative working between Scotland’s two Governments and upholds the 2023 fiscal framework agreement. The 2023 agreement, made by the Scottish Government and the last UK Government, builds on the agreements made by the Smith Commission in 2014, which devolved significant powers to the Scottish Government, including those over welfare, tax and borrowing.”

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  36. “I am looking at the hon. Gentleman because he clearly struggled with these figures last year as well. The order provides the Scottish Government with certainty over the cumulative borrowing limits for this financial year. It is for the Scottish Government to decide how they use these borrowing powers and the increased limits, and they are accountable to the Scottish Parliament for these decisions. In making this order, the UK Government uphold our commitment to the 2023 agreement and deliver for the people of Scotland. As ever, Scotland Act orders are possible only with the joint working of officials in both Governments, and I thank officials in the Scotland Office, the Treasury and the Scottish Government for their work on this order. This positive way of working delivers for the people of Scotland.”

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  37. “I am thinking specifically about welfare powers, but others could be taken up by the Scottish Government and have not been. I would have liked to have heard from some SNP Members about how they planned to use those powers. In conclusion, the draft order is an expression of joint work between the Scottish and UK Governments. I thank officials on both sides for their work on it. I commend the order to the Committee. Question put and agreed to.”

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  38. “It contains provision for the Scottish Government to notify the Treasury monthly on any planned capital borrowing, outstanding debt and the repayment profile. Obviously, that all has to be set within limits. As I said earlier, resource borrowing can take place only in very specific circumstances. It is not unconstrained, but is specific to two categories, which I laid out in my speech a moment ago. I agree with the hon. Member that the Scottish Government could do a lot more with their powers, and if there were any SNP Members on the Committee, we might hear about some of their plans. Whether or not we were MPs at the time, I think we all remember that extensive powers were devolved to the Scottish Parliament through the 2014 Smith Commission, and many of those are gathering dust on the Scottish Government’s desk.”

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  39. “I thank hon. Members for their contributions, which I will address in turn. For the record, this year’s increase is 2.37%, and that is based on the OBR’s GDP deflator at the time of the Scottish Government Budget. I am slightly surprised by Opposition Members’ comments about the devolution settlement. These are issues for the Scottish Parliament, and it is for the Scottish Parliament to scrutinise the Scottish Government. Opposition Members may not have confidence in Conservative Members of the Scottish Parliament to appropriately scrutinise the Scottish Government, but I have confidence in Labour Members of the Scottish Parliament to appropriately scrutinise the decisions of the Scottish Government. The hon. Member for Berwickshire, Roxburgh and Selkirk will be familiar with the 2023 fiscal framework from his time as a Minister.”

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  40. “The order is about keeping our communities and constituents in Scotland safe. Without it, there would be significant consequences for safeguarding across the UK, because the cross-border disclosure and information-sharing arrangements that are already in place under the Police Act 1997 would no longer operate. That would put our communities at risk and undermine a system that has operated effectively across the UK for many years.”

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  41. “That will ensure that the chief officer must provide information to Scottish Ministers in the same way that the chief constable is required to do in Scotland. The law enforcement bodies to which this duty applies are outlined in part 1. Part 2 provides provisions for a statutory review process of other relevant information before it is disclosed to a third party. This is a central provision of the Disclosure (Scotland) Act, and is intended to enhance the proportionality of the disclosure regime. Finally, part 3 places further duties on law enforcement agencies to make other information, such as central records, personal data to verify identity, and fingerprint records available to Scottish Ministers. If passed, the order will come into force on 1 April; guidance will be provided to UK law enforcement bodies before that date.”

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  42. “The order ensures the continued provision of information from UK law enforcement bodies to Scottish Ministers for the purposes of the disclosure regime. This includes conviction information, cautions, relevant police information and fingerprint records. This cross-border information transfer is necessary to ensure that Scottish Ministers can exercise their vetting and barring functions efficiently and effectively. Importantly, it ensures that the public are protected. I shall speak briefly to some of the individual provisions. Part 2 places duties on the chief officers of UK law enforcement bodies in relation to disclosure information that are equivalent to the duties that the Disclosure (Scotland) Act places on the chief constable of Police Scotland.”

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  43. “The draft order makes provision in consequence of the changes that the Disclosure (Scotland) Act 2020 made to the disclosure regime in Scotland. The Disclosure (Scotland) Act, with which I know many hon. Members may not be familiar, concerns the regime for disclosures made by Scottish Ministers about a person’s criminal history and other information held about them by police and law enforcement agencies, such as fingerprint records. This crucial piece of legislation, which received support from all parties when it was passed by the Scottish Parliament, simplifies the system for disclosure in Scotland. Most people will come across the disclosure system when they apply for a PVG—protecting vulnerable groups—certificate from Disclosure Scotland, often so they may work or volunteer with children or vulnerable people.”

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  44. “I beg to move, That the Committee has considered the draft Disclosure (Scotland) Act 2020 (Consequential Provisions and Modifications) Order 2025. The draft order was laid on 11 February, and I am grateful for the opportunity to debate it. As with all the Scotland Act 1998 orders we have considered since the start of this Parliament, the draft order is the result of collaborative working between the UK and Scottish Governments. Like many others, it is made under section 104 of the Scotland Act, which, following an Act of the Scottish Parliament, provides the power for consequential provision to be made to the law relating to reserved matters or laws elsewhere in the UK. Scotland Act orders are a demonstration of devolution in action, and I am pleased that this Government have made seven such orders since we came into office in 2024.”

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  45. “Lady mentioned secondary legislation consequential to the Disclosure (Scotland) Act. We are discussing this order today, and the House of Lords will consider it next week. Secondary legislation that the Scottish Government might put through the Scottish Parliament is probably a question for them, rather than us. Through this order, we are discharging our responsibilities to deal with the consequential provisions that cannot be dealt with by the Scottish Parliament because of reserved legislation, in order that the system can carry on working effectively and operate after 1 April. I hope that answers all the hon. Lady’s questions. If it does not, I am happy for her to intervene again or to write to her on anything I have not covered. Question put and agreed to.”

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  46. “However, I know from discussions I have had that the campaign has been extensive, especially with stakeholders who make use of this system. They are waiting for this measure to come into force, and most people who have an interest in it are well prepared for it to come into force on 1 April. Guidance will be available before 1 April for the public bodies and law enforcement agencies that are affected by the order. The guidance for how the PVG system will work has already been provided to stakeholders, and as I said, they are expecting that to be implemented on 1 April. The guidance I mentioned in my remarks is specifically the guidance that will be offered to law enforcement agencies in the rest of the UK outside Scotland on how they implement the measures and respond to the duties placed upon them. The hon.”

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  47. “In terms of the consultation, Disclosure Scotland has worked alongside officials in the Ministry of Justice, the Home Office, the Ministry of Housing, Communities and Local Government, the Department of Justice in Northern Ireland and the Welsh Government on the policy for and drafting of this order. In advance of the Disclosure (Scotland) Act 2020 being introduced in the Scottish Parliament in 2019, there was extensive consultation with anyone affected, including businesses, volunteer organisations and others who make extensive use of the system. As I understand it, Disclosure Scotland has been running the information campaign for 18 months. I do not have statistics to hand on how it has operated; that would be a question for the Scottish Government and probably specifically for Disclosure Scotland, rather than for the UK Government.”

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  48. “I will try to pick up on all those questions, but if I miss any, I will make sure that I write to the hon. Lady afterwards. I am not entirely sure I understand her point about criminalisation. The Disclosure (Scotland) Act was put forward by the Scottish Government and passed by the Scottish Parliament to simplify the quite complex landscape of disclosure. It has been well received by stakeholders and others, and as I mentioned, it was passed unanimously on a cross-party basis in the Scottish Parliament by all parties represented in this room. It is an important part of Scottish Ministers being able to carry out those vetting and barring functions.”

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  49. “This instrument transfers functions to Scottish Ministers to make regulations under part 3, chapter 1 and part 6 of the Levelling-up and Regeneration Act 2023, in relation to the assessment of the effects on the environment in connection with applications for consent, approval or variation of consent for electricity generating stations and associated overhead line infrastructure. Those functions will be exercisable concurrently with the Secretary of State. Before the Scottish Ministers seek to exercise functions by virtue of this order, they will be required to consult with the Secretary of State. The order reflects a commitment made to the Scottish Government during the passage of the Levelling-up and Regeneration Act 2023. I am pleased that the UK Government are working to address that matter.”

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  50. “Following the designation of the Scottish part of the renewable energy zone, the extent of the Scottish Ministers electricity consent functions was extended to the Scottish part of the renewable energy zone. Subsequently, the Scottish Ministers’ associated EIA regulation-making powers were also extended to the Scottish part of the REZ. The power to make environmental impact assessment regulations was lost on repeal of the European Communities Act 1972. The UK Government then took powers in the Levelling-up and Regeneration Act 2023 to make environmental outcomes report regulations, intended to replace environmental impact assessment regulations.”

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