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Aicha Evans

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“And we want our vehicle to have a symbiotic relationship with people with people. So we came up with that and we really like it.”
2020-03-06 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · Recode Decode: Aicha Evans and Jesse Levinson · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Also, I'm not even done yet. Okay. This is part two. All right. It also forms a symbiotic relation with the coral reefs and help terraform our planet and create a lot of the oxygen we breathe. And we want our co-founder. You're lucky.”
2020-03-06 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · Recode Decode: Aicha Evans and Jesse Levinson · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“My co founder named it Zeus actually. It's kind of an interesting story, so there's a marine organism called Zeux and Thala, which marine biologists tend to abbreviate as Zeux. Yeah. And it's really cool. It's a single-celled organism. It's a phytoplankton. It gets its energy from the sun. So it does phot”
2020-03-06 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · Recode Decode: Aicha Evans and Jesse Levinson · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“We did have a couple parts that were one or two weeks delayed, and we worked around that. So hopefully things get contained and it passes. But obviously something”
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“I certainly watch the news and make sure, but to be fair, and I hope it doesn't come off wrongly because in terms of human beings and the health of people, yes, I worry about it, but in terms of the supply chain and what we're having to do right now, it's not even on a night-top channel.”
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“So, well, I mean, first of all, there's just the policy type stuff, making sure that we looked at travel and so on and so forth. The second element is around the supply chain. And so far, we've been able to find mitigation and different types of solutions. Teams have been very creative. And it's been something that we're monitoring and managing, but it hasn't been a showstopper at all.”
2020-03-06 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · Recode Decode: Aicha Evans and Jesse Levinson · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“No, but seriously No, no, no We have to teach people money is not a goal. Money's an out And by the way, you do the right things by and large, especially if you're interviewing at Zux on something that's pretty much advanced technology.”
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“No, but seriously, like, look, it's not that there's anything wrong with making money, but what we're doing is hard and important, and we want people who are excited by that. And we're not the only company doing hard and important things. And as I said, I've been really encouraged by how many people now when they go through school and think about what they want to do with their career are realizing that, yes, you have to support yourself and your family, but we're fortunate now in our society to have so many ways to do that. And I think people are starting to gravitate more towards ways that are impactful and positive. And, you know, we're not all the way there yet, but I think there's a really encouraging trend.”
2020-03-06 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · Recode Decode: Aicha Evans and Jesse Levinson · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“One of the things I've noticed a lot more, and I'm encouraged by this, is you know, we interview a lot of people because we've hired over a thousand. And I like to ask people, like, why are you excited about Zeus? And it's really encouraging because almost nobody is here because they want to get rich. That's not the motivating factor for people. It's some people, it's the environment, some people it's the product experience, people it's safety. Some people just love the technology and many people love multiple things. And it's so rare now that I find somebody who just seems motivated by making money. I had one person actually, I interviewed somebody a year ago and I was like, hey, you know what makes you excited about Zuki? He's like, well, you know, he said a couple things. He's like, but to be honest, I just feel like your valuation's going up and I'd be stupid not to get on that rocket. And I was like, well, that's not going to happen. That is not why we're hiring people.”
2020-03-06 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · Recode Decode: Aicha Evans and Jesse Levinson · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Yeah, and you talk to students and they talk about health and they talk about medicine and they talk about climate change and they talk about cities and housing problems and traffic problem. You hear them really talk about big problems and being hopeful about them because AI and robotics can help.”
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“So I talk to a lot of students all the time. I'm actually very hopeful with AI and robotics. I think we may be entering a really nice phase again because those technologies are really going to affect all industries and really all phases of life. And you start with climate change and some of the things that we're looking at. I think people are starting to pause and say, what's really important, what's worthy, and given that those two tools given opportunity to also bring new solutions, I'm hoping that we may have a nice wave again.”
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“And people realized both as the creators of technology but also as society, right? I mean, there's a role of government here, there's a role of public discourse. And I think we all need to work together to be more mindful of what does it mean when you deploy a technology, not just like, oh my God, I got this many users. And that's awesome and I got this many clicks. But what does that do to people? And what are the second and third order effects? I don't have a magical solution, but it's definitely something people need to be more serious about.”
2020-03-06 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · Recode Decode: Aicha Evans and Jesse Levinson · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Yeah. And so I think there's a responsibility here. And I do think that there are some examples where technology kind of got ahead of itself. And people who invented it probably had generally good intentions and didn't realize, right? So I don't think people realize when, for example, smartphones, people didn't realize, oh my God, literally you can get addicted to your phone.”
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“I think all technology comes with pros and cons. I think it's hard to find any technology that hasn't had some negative impact on society. So does a knife.”
2020-03-06 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · Recode Decode: Aicha Evans and Jesse Levinson · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“I want to finish up talking about the tech lash because there's so many companies in Silicon Vanish now, exemplified by the Facebooks of the world and the problem companies. One of the things I'm doing this year is spending a lot of time talking about solutions companies and companies that are much more, just like I said, not a dating service, not one of the things I always say is Silicon Valley is a lot of smart people working, very incredibly smart people working on stupid things or not things worthy of the world. One of the issues I talk about a lot is climate change tech, the concept that there's bigger things to work on and more worthy things to work on. You've both been in Silicon Valley for a while. What do you think has happened here? Why don't you start Jesse here in Silicon Valley? Because I think Silicon Valley has a terrible reputation now. They're calling for regulation. This obviously is not going to affect you all because you're not making the things they're making. But the damage that tech does to society.”
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“Came here to study computer science and gain a little bit of distance and freedom from my dad. By the time I was 18, he was not too happy with the result, independent, strong women, and literally met my husband within months of arriving. And so ended up finishing school, getting married and staying.”
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“So it was normal to have a telecommunication engineer as a dad. So it wasn't like some huge barrier, and I wasn't really given an option. So as a matter of fact, as a child or as a teenager, I liked philosophy a lot, especially the philosophers that are mathematicians. I love them.”
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“Understanding the difference between being able to do something myself and helping other people do that thing. And so I was really lucky to have her as a mentor and as a mom.”
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“No, but it took me, it was an amazing lesson, especially as a six year old. I think a lot of people never learned that lesson, and I was really lucky that my mom was such a good teacher. And I got used to the concept of actually explaining things to people.”
2020-03-06 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · Recode Decode: Aicha Evans and Jesse Levinson · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“And I was good at using computers because she would teach me every day. And so I'd go in with her. And at first, I would sort of show off. I'd be like, oh, I know how to do this. And I would literally take the keyboard and the mouse from somebody and do it myself. And she's like, no, Jesse, like that's not how you teach people things. You actually have to explain it to them and let them do it themselves. And I was like, okay. So it took me a few weeks.”
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“Oh, it was amazing. I mean, and I never, you know, I think because when I was a kid and she was the computer scientist in the family, so I didn't to me, of course, it wasn't unusual. I just, she was my mom. And she would teach me how to use computers and play with them. And she actually taught computer classes. This was in the late 80s. So most people didn't have a computer at home. And she started teaching computer classes to local families and they'd take a parent and a kid and they'd come in. And she would teach him how to use computers, how to play computer games. And I would always want to go with her and help her. And she's like, well, you can come with me, but you have to help me teach. And I was like six years old.”
2020-03-06 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · Recode Decode: Aicha Evans and Jesse Levinson · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“I think inclusion, camaraderie, perseverance, there were many people along the way from birth. To now, who encouraged me, who are sponsors, who are mentors, by the way, who also sat me down and said, let's talk. There's an issue here. And surrounding yourself with the right people too and being in the right environment. I mean, in making a decision to join a startup, that was important to me. I mean, the type of founder, the type of person, the type of value system. But to me, inclusion is key. Because once people see success, we will have more and more and more companies. That's what's go”
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“Beyond pipeline, beyond everything, and why it persists, you do need to see more people and you wonder why their lack of diversity. I'm not just talking about color or gender. It's all kinds of diversity. And so really, it seems like strength happens that way.”
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“Of course, I want to succeed. And when I fail, I want to learn along the way. I feel the responsibility of making this happen. No question about it. But yeah, I don't really think about it in terms of, oh, I'm a woman. Plenty of people remind me though.”
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“Yes, Andy, and she's awesome. Yeah. Yeah, there aren't many, but you know, it's weird. I mean, I wake up in the morning and I don't think I'm a woman or I'm of color or I'm Aisha Evans. I got to get say hug the kids, say bye to hubby and get in the car and get to work. So”
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“You have to fight every day, you have to execute. There aren't a lot of discussions and meetings and different, I mean, we have one product that looks, everybody works on that one product. So I think there's an element of that. But then when you add the ground up approach, where really we can, from an architectural and design standpoint, we can make decisions very quickly. We get people in a room and yes, sometimes it's to be 30 or 40 people in a room. We discuss, we draw on the board, and off we go. We don't have to negotiate. We don't have to have discussions. This expert said this, that expert said that. This company wants this, that you just move. So frankly, it's been invigorating. We meet new employees every Monday at 11.30. And today, actually, yesterday or today, I can't remember, is my first year anniversary. And I tell them that I wake up every morning in a hurry to get here. And I haven't had a moment.”
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“I literally told the recruiter, don't call me for a day for you. I'm laughing. It's important while we're on this earth to do impactful things. This is a worthy thing to go after, not to get too mushy. I mean, it's going to transport, it's going to transform how we live life, economies, access and so on. So look, this place is mission-driven. You talk to anybody in here, even the cleaning crew. We are not confused about what we're doing. We're excited. It's impactful. And I'd like to give a little bit of a counter perspective. Startups are nice. There's clarity”
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“Difficulties, but also opportunities. And we've been really fortunate because we've had a clear and consistent vision that really resonates with people. And so as we've been growing the company, we're over 1,000 people now. We've been able to attract people who are just so excited by the opportunity to do something important for the world. And people have been willing to defer some of the, for example, cash compensation they could make at Facebook or Apple or Google or Microsoft or Amazon and say, hey, this is important. I want to dedicate a chunk of my life to doing that. And so despite that, it's a really hard thing to do and people have to have some amount of patience, we've been able to build one of the best teams in the world. And so we get to come to work every day and work with them. And it's just incredibly inspiring.”
2020-03-06 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · Recode Decode: Aicha Evans and Jesse Levinson · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“I think startups are hard in general. I mean, you start with literally nothing, and then you have to build something. And I think Zeke's in particular is challenging because we set out in 2014 to build a new type of transportation. And when you start a company that isn't going to have a product for six or seven years and it's going to require north of a thousand people and probably north of a billion dollars before it has a product deployed in the market, that's just not done very often. It's an unusual thing to do. And so you take all the challenges that startups normally have and then you can sort of multiply them by all those extra.”
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“Exactly. But the more important thing is we have to be alliance philosophically. Like the ground up approach, the robotaxi market, dense urban environment, focus because it's easy to start with that and already say, oh, I'm going to move food, I'm going to move people, I'm going to move packages, I'm going to move a bunch of things. So focus and then a measured go-to-market approach. So that's really what we look at. Long-term partners, patients, and being able to really be aligned and move along the way.”
2020-03-06 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · Recode Decode: Aicha Evans and Jesse Levinson · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Yeah, they've had, I don't know, four or five different ideas along the way. And to some extent, they can afford to do that because if you're funded by alphabet, which as you said literally, almost literally prints money, you can try lots of ideas and that's totally fine. As a startup, we don't really have that luxury. And so if our original idea in 2014 was fundamentally wrong, it probably wouldn't be here by now. We certainly wouldn't be around in five years. Fortunately, it turns out that the more we do this, the more convinced we are that this is a good idea. It doesn't necessarily mean it's the only good idea, but we do think it's a good idea. And seeing other companies start to talk more and more about how they want to do something similar is really encouraging because we do think we have a multi-year head start over anybody else at actually building and deploying ground up autonomous vehicles and cities.”
2020-03-06 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · Recode Decode: Aicha Evans and Jesse Levinson · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“We want that on public roads by the end of 2021, which is still consistent with what we were saying in 2014. But again, obviously the gating factor is going to be the safety. I think we have tried to give ourselves every possible advantage. And you asked, you know, how do we compare some of our competitors? I think the biggest difference is that since 2014, every single day we've come to work with the same approach in mind, the ground up approach. And because we've had almost six years now to work on that and not been distracted by any other ideas, we think we've been able to make more progress than other companies who have tried two or three or four different ideas along the way.”
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“Well, I think we've actually been fairly consistent and realistic. When we started Zeux in 2014, we actually said it would be somewhere between 2020 and 2021 before our vehicles went on public roads. And we're actually still on that timeline. It's not going to be 2020, although, again, you got to ride in the vehicle. So it's real. It drives. We're going to be putting it on public roads. Our goal is to get it on public roads by the end of 2021. The new car, the one that you just experienced. We want to get that vehicle.”
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“All the way to, and then, of course, the technology also has to be available, has to be ubiquitous. We always talk about iPhones. There was the beginning when there were a few only on the AT&T network and now it's a global phenomenon. So we'll see the same type of... Ramp, but I would say that I don't know the time frame, not in my lifetime, but you will definitely see, for example, cities where people will not own a car at all. As you expand to suburbs, you'll see, I'm assuming it will take more time. But eventually, yeah, I mean, cars, it's really about transportation. And you're talking to somebody who enjoys driving too, by the way. You do. Yeah, not trucks.”
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“Humans, when they make an error and get in an accident, they don't really learn. They might learn. You may not do that again, but you still might not learn, right? You might do it twice or three times, but you have a little bit of a knowledge of it. When a car gets in an accident, all the car, millions of cars learn. Like you could teach all the other cars. And so it's kind of an interesting problem. And other humans definitely don't learn when you get an accident, which is interesting. Do you imagine people are going to give up driving cars? Again, I have this big ongoing argument with truck owners from the Midwest about this. So talk about this. I say they're going to.”
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“or however you want to characterize it. Being anticipatory. I think humans are anticipating. They see something coming, they can visually see. And in your case, one of the things I always say is cars, everyone was like, oh, I always get people sometimes recognize me. What do you think about it? They always ask about autonomous vehicles. It's really interesting. And one of the things I always say, I was on the plane the other day and someone was like, what do you think the problem? I said, I guess hacking, I suppose, could be a problem eventually, but it's hacking, hacking's a problem. And they were like, what about accents? I go, you know, they'll.”
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“And I think it's important when we talk about the driving, there's the mechanical driving itself, which you experienced. Humans are not getting better. I tell Jesse all the time. They get worse over time. However, they are very good at recovering from errors.”
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“Few months ago, we got to the point where our AI system is making fewer mistakes than people do on those routes. And that's a really big milestone for the company. But humans are kind of constant. They're not really getting better at driving. In fact, some people think they're getting worse because they're texting more and distracting by the phone. But in our case, every two weeks, it just gets better and better. And so it's not that there's one fundamental challenge. It's just about making the system better and recognizing more situations and handling more stuff and really just every two weeks it's just fewer errors, fewer errors, more safety, more comfort and smoother driving.”
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“Make sure there's a couple of doubly parked vehicles, and we were able to handle that the entire drive had no interventions because the AI has learned how to handle all of those situations. And really, it's an incremental effort. It's not that there's one brilliant idea that solves the problem. It's really about making it better and better. And so what we do is every two weeks we release a major new version of our software to our fleet. In fact, one just came out this morning, so you're on the latest build. And we measure everything about it. And we can get pretty much better every single two weeks. And we also measure human driving. So we've had humans drive a lot of those same really challenging routes, and we measure when humans make mistakes. And what's pretty exciting is...”
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“Yeah, I mean, fundamentally, the hardest thing to do is to build an artificial intelligence system that's safer at driving than humans. And it's not just doing that on a racetrack. It's doing that in the wild with all kinds of unpredictable things happening all the time. I mean, even on our drive this afternoon, we saw all kinds of interesting and difficult scenarios.”
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“In stages, right? You talk about the future of this vehicle. So you start with, you know, human beings are very good when there's disruption and innovation. They get used to things. And then 20, 30 years ago, if you had told me about the concept of an app, I don't know that I would have even understood what you meant. And so eventually we can essentially drive highways. We can go to the suburbs. You can go to airport. You can do many different things. That's one and link areas together. And then obviously if you can move people, you can also move other things.”
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“To start, it's an urban mobility solution. And by the way, it makes business sense because you know the demand exists today. So you can essentially enjoy that. But frankly, this vehicle is designed to drive everywhere.”
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“And back to again architecting and designing with that concept in mind, right? So not only do you have the individual spaces for each and control for each of the four passengers, but even the sliding doors and stepping in and sitting down without really disturbing the other occupants. And so if you want to be communal, that's available. But if you want to just be in your own space, we feel that we've architected and designed for that.”
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“Well, we've actually gone out of our way to design our vehicle with pooling in mind. And I think that's, again, one of the things we're not designed for Uber to have three passengers or four passengers, and that's not what cars were designed for originally. So if you imagine trying to put three people in the back seat of an Uber, it's just, you know, it's kind of, it's a hack, right? It's like, well, there are technically three seats, but you're getting in and out and climbing on top of each other and you're touching people and it's really just cramped and not very pleasant. So we've designed a vehicle that can fit four passengers very comfortably and it's much, much less feeling like, oh my God, somebody's right next to me. There's also a camera recording everything to make sure that everything's safe. There's an emergency stop button on both sides of the vehicle. So we've really thought deeply about the product experience and we've really tried to make sure that it's as safe as possible for people who want to use that option.”
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“And if you can get two And also, there are issues, though, of safety. Because now there's a lot of rumors at Uber and Lyft are going to stop doing pool because it's not as efficient for them. But you feel this is the way to go with these cars.”
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“Yeah, you really think about it similarly to how Uber Pool and Lyftline work. So we wouldn't force people to carpool if you want to have your own ride. That's no problem if you want to pay a little bit more. If you want to pay a little bit less, you may get put in a vehicle with some other passengers. And we really think pooling is a triple win because if you can get people to carpool, the individual passengers are paying less as a company if we can put several people in a vehicle we can make more revenue even if the individuals are paying less. And then for the city, it's a major win because you have less congestion. One of the worst things about driving is you have so many cars with only one person in them. And if you can get two or three or four people in a vehicle, you can really reduce the number of vehicles on the road with the same time, which is a really good thing for cities and for the environment and for people's time.”
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“For dance urban environment, anybody who already uses mobility as a service, meaning Uber and Lyft, definitely should enjoy our service where it's available. That's one. And then eventually the time expands because I can tell you that every time I'm going to San Francisco, there's a one-on-one with myself for a couple of minutes. Am I going to drive? Am I going to use mobility as a service? So I could see how with the experience, with the economic model around it that more people will actually choose when they are in cities to Use transportation as a service. If you look at Uber and Left, they didn't”
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“Yeah, I would say that from a business model standpoint, there are definitely in the transportation business too, so no question about it. So right now what is deployed is, as Jesse said earlier, a human being that is chauffering you around. It just happens to be on demand. Yes, they have Uber ATG, I believe. We'll see what the future holds. When you look at the space”
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“I think we're in different businesses. Tesla is in the business of selling cars to people and those cars, I'm told, may have some future capabilities We are not in the business of selling cars to people. We're in the business of selling transportation to people and making sure that it's really a fleet of robotaxis that are moving people inside of cities. And so it's just Really a different business model altogether. The second thing is in a robotaxi, there is no human being that is driving. All of the driving is, and all of the decisions also that are associated around driving are basically made by AI and a computer. There isn't a safety driver. You don't have steering wheel and pedals and so on. So I would say different business model and also really a different use case.”
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“But it's understandable. Like nobody wants to replace human heirs with a bunch of robot errors on a similar order of men.”
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