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Alanis Morissette

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  1. A sweet question I would say everything's going to be okay, and you can be young. Can be a young person, you can enjoy. And there's a lot of stuff going on around that I felt like I had to manage at the time. So I would say to her, I would come in as a 40-year-old and say I got this. You can go play. I got this. Perfect. Oh, thank you for having me.

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  2. Love is most felt when it's a verb and when it's an action And a lot of times people think, well, I'm doing this for you. And I think, wait, wait, if you were really attempting to love, you might want to check in with the other person. What would feel like love for them.

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  3. It moves energy, so stream of consciousness, I feel like I am letting myself be the filter that I am and be used, whether I want to call it channeling or whatever. Sometimes I think channeling is a little too heavy-handed. But I just feel like I'm being used by God.

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  4. This work addiction one, and I think it's trauma stuff. So for me to just keep continuously working through the somatic, you know, because I could tend to be a little conceptual, a little heady to stay in my heart, to stay in my body. And so doing a lot of somatic experiencing and a lot of deep tissue heller work and a lot of processing and blending all the therapies and modes together that there isn't one model for me that is the panacea for all of it, to blend them all for me to keep coming back to who I really am. But I'm still working on it, you know.

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  5. This conversation that really takes What's going on in the world and what we all ache in our hearts for to a new place that opens up new ideas and new possibilities for people? It's my most exciting thing, the essence of what we're up to in this moment.

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  6. Yes, sometimes just silence, sometimes reading, writing, journaling is huge, dancing, moving, sweating. You know, when I'm working out, I can definitely feel the connection. So for me, it's about continuously moving the energy because stagnation in my body and a lot of trauma is held in there. So just moving it is key.

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  7. Yeah. I love God. I'm a devotee and a student, if nothing else, if I could only be one archetype, it would be the bowing girl. Yes, the best. It's really relaxing, by the way. I'm sure you know what you're praying.

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  8. Yeah, and I've been a woo woo telepathic psychic, all the words that you could possibly use, woo-woo girls since before I could speak.

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  9. I live for connection and I suffer deeply with disconnection and I've been made fun of for that. A lot of ex-boyfriends who were just saying, you're obsessed with consistent connection. I remember thinking, oh, I could think of worse things to be obsessed with. But yeah, I think connection has always been what I've been obsessed with. Connection with self, God, and other.

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  10. So, if we're chasing a temporary state, we're setting ourselves up to fail. It's not part of the human invitation, really, to just feel one feeling at any given time. Sitting in the seat of awareness, watching this like the movie that it is can give some relief and show the dance of emotions that are temporary that move through and thoughts move through and they're like boats to me and my suffering is dependent upon how quickly I jump into the boat and follow that stream, but if I can sit back and watch it, there's some relief, but I wouldn't call it happiness. I would call it The bliss or the joy of consciousness.

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  11. And also having grown up with a lot of activity, a lot of personalities, a lot of chaos, watching was a normal orientation for me.

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  12. I mean, I don't do it all the time, but I love it. It's probably because of how I'm selfishly thinking, how relaxing it is for my body.

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  13. Yes, and for me thus presencefulness, you know, so to the degree that I cannot be obsessed with what's going on. And right now this culture is such a workaholic work-addicted culture.

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  14. Transcendental place, and we sort of came to, for lack of a better term, my friend said, oh, we have to stay here. And I said, no, let's just bring it back. And I was able to bring it back, but it lasted about a month. And then it quickly slid away into the workaholic ethers. Not to say that I don't have glimpses of it. And this sort of connection with all that is access is not abiding for me. It's just moments.

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  15. I went hiking in the Himalayas. I did a bunch of exercises where I thought I remember hiking up into the mountains four days up, no one around except for the odd animal and the odd kick-ass village. And I just remember thinking, I'm going to try to not talk about the future or anyone else. Only talk about now. So there were exercises like that that I would try on. I would meditate. In India, every street corner is an altar. There's incense. It's just breathtaking.

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  16. It feels like my having seen through the illusion of my own ego and of this dance and of the separatism, this big, big lie, there's that word again, this big lie that we're disconnected. And I was doing it as much as anyone else was. I was disconnected from the sense of God. I was disconnected from my relationships, disconnected in here. Everything was fragmented. And so I was believing that that was what I was.

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  17. That he's this filter for love and consciousness and God to careen through him at varying rates, in his case feel like the life stream courses through him very quickly. So, you know, and that what we're doing here is we're doing a dance of self-definition over and over again and that who he is is a miracle.

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  18. Really. But when the fighting state, when it stays in that just feels like you're re-traumatizing each other. And I get the, wow, we gotta, we gotta take a little breather here. But that's usually when people say, I'm going to jump out, they get infatuated again with someone else. They go through the same thing. In my case, over and over again, because I was waiting for someone to see the value in sticking it out.

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  19. But yeah, you actually feel like it's an adventure. You don't feel like you are being re-traumatized. The only problem is that a lot of relationships, and I've been in tons of them, I was up for this whole idea of getting in the canoe, the sweet metaphor that Harville uses. Yes. But the other person was like, oh, no, no, we're fighting too much. This is the end. And I was devastated because I just thought, no, I know what this portends for. I know what's possible.

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  20. Yes. And Harville would say that if you're attracted and there's that buzz. That you're intellectually matched, and that might not mean you have the same education, but that you're intellectually matched, that your level of willingness to do the work in relationship is matched, and your wounds are matched. So I could definitely tell Solei and I have complimentary traumas going on, and our education is really different, but our brains operate similarly.

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  21. In a Harville says basically five to seven years on average. We're entering into our fifth year. So we have moments of still being mired in the power struggle, and then we have moments of really being our best selves and actually just stopping our natural knee-jerk reactivity.

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  22. Possibility because I'd had a lot of growth in relationships, growth, growth, growth, growth, and it's distinct from humal, right?

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  23. Yeah, what changed? I just remember meeting him thinking that he had a ceilinglessness to him. Whether it was spiritually or the woo-woo conversation or ancient Egyptians or intellectually or psychologically or artistically, stream of consciousness, all of that, I would date people and there would be something about me that would hit a brick wall with whomever I was sitting across from. And with Solai when I first met him. I could see that there was this limitlessness to where we could go, and that I was even a little scared thinking, oh God, I'm going to be going into territories that are outside of my jurisdiction and outside of my comfort zone if I hang out with this person. Like, you remind me of a composite of my whole family, and this will get really interesting and really challenging and really beautiful.

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  24. And then there was the other side, which do all your work in relationship. And I actually think it's both. Do your individual work and know that you could be an active participant in your partner's healing. And that's that third phase most people, when they the three phase thing of the committed journey of infatuation can't get your hands off each other second phase start conflict because it's going to happen. Most people jump ship, especially in Hollywood. Bye-bye. Bye-bye. I'm out now. And I was of the mind that like phase two, this is just where it gets good. This is where we get to help each other and go to the phase three where you're helping each other out.

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  25. And the idea of being the active, because a lot of people say, well, you know, there's this autonomous movement that was going on for a long time, like do your individual work.

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  26. Everything And it's so merciful and it's so intelligent, and it blends for me that stages of development chart. Not only explains how to navigate the relationship, but how to navigate this relationship and what I need to do in order to really become

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  27. What is this? And then, yeah, and then it's not love anymore. And that's when I also started applying Harvel Hendrix Amago. I read Keeping the Love You Find When I was 15 and I thought here is a model that explains to me healthy love and active participation in both people's healing and your partner's healing. And so I had this fantasy the whole time.

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  28. I figured out because of repeating the excruciating pain of the same pattern of dissolving the same relationship over and over again with many people and the deep pain. And I promised as part of my recovery journey to not commit to a new relationship for a year. And that meant dating different people and not committing to them, which as a love addict I wanted to commit. My propensity was to commit five-step.

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  29. Yeah, sex addict is easy. Sex with sex. Because you're obsessed with sex. You can't get enough. And it's the seduction part too, the sex thing.

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  30. Explain, please, details. So briefly, probably i.e. a year, if not a little bit more, five days a week therapy, you know, basically doing my own version of number one commitment recovery from love addiction, the withdrawal with love addiction is harrowing. It's probably the worst pain that I have felt in my life. So treating a human being as that object focus. It's an impersonal experience. As long as that person isn't interested, or if they're really interested in me, When I say love addiction, the word love ideally in my mind would be in quotes. Because it's not actually love. It's obsession. Obsession. It's obsession and it's fear. Love is just this natural state of

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  31. Well, taught me how women were and still are reduced to objects in a lot of ways or sexual pieces of meat to be really direct about it and that why I love being perceived as the angry white female on the cover of Rolling Stone was because I thought, well, at least I'm not perceived as just a sex piece of meat. That's great. This is an angry woman is a thinking woman. You know, an angry woman is responding to what's going on in the culture and society around her. But eating disorders for me, food was such an amazing way to calm my anxiety too. It still is. Food, work, and love addiction for a long time. I'm in active recovery for love addiction. Those are my top three. And then I have 100 secondary ones.

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  32. There would be a movement of energy, and I actually think that art itself is cathartic, but it's not healing. I thought that I could get away with writing you ought to know and writing these songs and it would absolve me and redeem and clean up. But after having sung, you ought to know night after night after night, if I ran into that person, I would have likely been catapulted right back to feeling uncomfortable and terrified and awkward. So it showed me that the process is cathartic of creating and moving energy and it can kickstart, it can be a catalyst to investigate, but unless there's an actual relationship going on, or maybe I'm singing the song to the person across from me, there was not a lot of healing afforded.

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  33. A yes when I would listen back to it years later. So there are times quiet little moments, apparently not so private anymore, but driving and I'll listen to a song and I'll just sob the whole way through it because I'll listen to it as though past self was singing to me now.

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  34. Yes, well, I actually think artists, anyone in the public eye is a social activist, whether they want to consciously embrace it or not. They're doing that. People are defining themselves in accordance to you. You are a service person. But then I saw people would come up to me and say, you know, you really helped me through my parents' death or my divorce. And so I thought, wow, me just being mean. And it sounds like you may have said a version of this a moment ago, which is so beautiful to me. Me being me in the studio was helping people. So I thought, even if I don't entirely understand that, I want to keep doing it. So that's why I dove back in.

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  35. So, I think what was amplified as well might have been this propensity for service after Jaggedle Pill the tour for that was finished. I didn't want to do it anymore. I remember going into a studio and just saying, I'm done. And I often hear that with different artists who are burnt out. You know, they really want to throw in the towel and they're not joking. And I remember just thinking, the only way and the only reason I could move forward is if service was imbued into this craziness. So then it became really fun in that way.

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  36. And inner child and art are inextricably late too. Absolutely. So that's what's being expressed, this beautiful, delicate part.

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  37. A certainty around art. I am nothing if not an artist activist and an activist on behalf of expression. And the irony is that I don't, my not having had a sense of self, yet being so doggedly wanting expression to happen, you know, going to speak to Congress, I remember on behalf of artists, when the digital world came into play and just fighting for the artist and fighting for that expression. A certainty, a precocious ad here,

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  38. Yes, so if there's self-doubt or if there's self-hatred, if there's anything, and frankly, God bless those young people in the public eye who are in the perfect time of their stage of development to cut their teeth and figure it out, then thrown into the public eye as a young person.

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  39. No, I didn't. I just remember thinking the only way to survive this, you know, I would land at airports and people would be there with scissors trying to get my hair and get a piece of my skin, literally physically try to get a piece of my skin and they'd be jumping on the cars.

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  40. Well, I'm also introverted and temperamentally highly sensitive, so I had this combination, Gemini, of being both. So on stage, the ham, the outspoken comedic, crazy, intense, sweaty, glittery part will come out, but then quietly alone in the studio writing, pretty introverted, like could be happy reading for six hours somewhere.

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  41. I had a big dualistic thing going on in that when I would write in the studio I felt safe because I was alone frankly or I was with a producer with whom I felt safe so I would just go for it uncensored but the goal for me was to apply that authenticity to my day-to-day life so a lot of people would notice the split they'd say on stage and in your lyrics you're so authentic and so direct and then in person you have this sort of persona and slightly meek even because I know you were

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  42. Have you always I've always been hungry and I've always wanted to go to the lowest common denominator. So I like getting to the essence of what's going on. I hate my own lying, lying to myself, lying to others. So I like getting to the bottom where there's no lie left.

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  43. There's a congruence. Yeah. That's happening for me now, what you just described is happening for me now. And I had aspects of it that were one-dimensionalized, and I was seen as singularly angry. Which, if you're going to be seen as singularly anything, anger is not terrible. Then I was singularly spiritual, then singularly academic, and then in certain moments singularly stupid or flaky or fill in the blank. So now it feels like, and I don't know whether it's because consciousness has evolved to the point where we're invited to be more integrated. More than one thing. Yes, heaven forbid that we're known as multitudinous beings. Yes.

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  44. Yeah, that's great. Literally. And it was that self something that you knew? Did you know, oh yeah, this is Oprah, quote unquote. Yeah. Okay, that's great. Yeah. I

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  45. Yes, and even if I'm not comfortable doing that, I'm very uncomfortable in pain. I hate Yeah, we run from it with all kinds of addictive fun things, temporarily fun things, but at least knowing that it's a portal and that on the other side there is this great sense of peace that That goes beyond this ego development. But I was having a hard time because I didn't have a sense of self. Had a really robust self from what people were telling me and from what my career said I was doing, certainly. Yeah, that's so interesting.

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  46. Yes, as though somehow we as humans could be exempt from pain. You know, one of the big lessons I've learned over the last little while has been that if I can become comfortable with pain, which is different than suffering. I can become comfortable with pain as just an indication, and it's potentially a daily thing. In my case, it often is. Then there won't be my living in the future all the time, that one day if and when I'll be happy.

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  47. You know, I thought that all would be helped and healed and soothed by fame. And I will Less lonely, and I will be understood and I will be loved, and that love will go in and heal any of the broken parts.

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  48. Traumatized because on some level, I think becoming famous and wanting fame, there's some trauma Yeah, of course. Yeah. I don't think it happens by mistake for anybody, frankly. And then the traumatized person, in this case me, gets traumatized by the very thing that I thought would be the balm.

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  49. I feel like the desire for fame as an end as opposed to a means to an end, which as you probably know more than anyone, fame can be a means to an end of service. Yes, yeah. But when it's just fame, and I was subject to the... What fame offered as anyone would be. And it was just disconcerting and it was disconnective actually. I had the Bill of Good sold to me that I'd be able to be hanging out with Johnny Depp and you and I would be chatting every day and having tea. And then I came to see that it was actually quite isolating. I felt disconnected from people. I felt there were a lot of projections and a lot of assumptions, a lot of misperceptions which felt violent at times. So it wasn't as connective as I thought it would be.

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  50. I'd had a model version of it in Canada. I had a couple of records out in Canada that quote unquote did well by Canadian standards. So I'd had my teeth cut a tiny bit in terms of prep. But my head spun around 360, and I just remember having been the person who'd loved to sit and watch people. I remember I would just sit at outdoor malls and just watch people all day and imagine their lives. And then I immediately became the watch ed. And that was really disconcerting. So I remember looking down a lot. I remember I didn't laugh for about two years. A lot of self-protection people would. You know, break into my hotel room while I was doing a show and leave notes and take things. And so there was a lot of invading of boundaries. And all I remember was setting boundaries backstage all the time.

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