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Alex Stamos

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first: 2019-05-24
most recent: 2019-05-24
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“All right, so targeted advertising is directionally a problem. What about the involvement of the Russians? Because I've just been spending a lot of time in Washington, and most intelligence people feel like it's increased exponentially. Not just at Facebook, but on our electric grids, telephone systems, all kinds of stuff.”
2019-05-24 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · Recode Decode: Facebook’s former security boss Alex Stamos and Twitter co-founder Ev Williams (Live) · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“For which the actual conduit of that was the mass media, the fact that the media covered the Podesta leaks and the NC leaks and changed the way it covered Hillary around her emails based upon the Russian hacking. If you look at just from a size perspective, both from an organic and an advertised content, the Internet Research Agency output pales in comparison to the amount of money spent and the quality of the targeting by the Trump campaign itself and by a variety of Republican groups.”
2019-05-24 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · Recode Decode: Facebook’s former security boss Alex Stamos and Twitter co-founder Ev Williams (Live) · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Really happy to point to Well, yes, and no, I mean, I would say. There's a difference there, but the problem is that the actual most effective use of Facebook to manipulate people in 2016 was almost certainly the core Trump campaign in a variety of R&C-related groups. It wasn't the Russians themselves. The biggest thing the Russians did was the Hacking League campaign.”
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“Didn't know it. Or they didn't know about it. I don't know. It was pretty well covered. I saw the Obamatech team give a big interview at an Amazon Web Services conference where they talked about how much data they're pulling from Facebook and how finally they're targeting the ads. And so they did nothing, everything that is complained about in Cambridge Analytica.”
2019-05-24 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · Recode Decode: Facebook’s former security boss Alex Stamos and Twitter co-founder Ev Williams (Live) · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Right, right. Whether or not it's Russians or not, it's just a bad thing. It is a bad thing that we are now, the truth is that this has been a problem for a while. The 2012 election, where Obama's team totally kicked the butt of the Republicans online, that is probably the first U.S. election that was quote-unquote thrown by Facebook. That was at least significantly affected by online advertising. But most people in the media were okay with the outcome, so they didn't get picked.”
2019-05-24 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · Recode Decode: Facebook’s former security boss Alex Stamos and Twitter co-founder Ev Williams (Live) · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Okay, so a great example of something that I'm still really active on. So, a little pitch, my colleagues and I at Stanford are releasing a report on June 6th about what to do after the Molar report on election security. And one of our big recommendations is both for regulation from Congress and self-regulation from the tech companies to really expand the definition of political advertising and to reduce the ability to use targeted ads against individuals. So the direction of allowing people to use hyper-targeting to manipulate societies absolutely a correct”
2019-05-24 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · Recode Decode: Facebook’s former security boss Alex Stamos and Twitter co-founder Ev Williams (Live) · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“What I'm saying is that people will utilize speech sometimes to do really good things, and a lot of times do bad things. And we've got to think about what responsibility we want the companies to have because when we give them responsibility, we also give them power And that's the other thing that I think I disagree actually with some of my friends at Facebook. I think in a lot of ways Facebook is too powerful. And I'm very afraid of this moment when we are assigning responsibility to half trillion to trillion dollar companies with no democratic accountability and no limits to that power and then asking them to fix societal wide issues.”
2019-05-24 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · Recode Decode: Facebook’s former security boss Alex Stamos and Twitter co-founder Ev Williams (Live) · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Facebook is other people, right? Okay. And when you talk about anti-vaxxers and crazy parents today, Recommending bleach. This is the collective decisions of millions or billions of people when you give them a freedom they never had before. Now, that doesn't mean the company doesn't have responsibility, but I think one of the problems is we're not teasing apart what the companies are doing actively and what kind of societal issues have been unleashed by the fact that we have gone rid of the information gatekeepers. And I think that's one of the core disagreements between the Valley overall and the media is sometimes for those of us in tech. It feels a little bit like there's a lot of media people who want to go back to the world where 38 middle-aged white guys decide what is the political”
2019-05-24 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · Recode Decode: Facebook’s former security boss Alex Stamos and Twitter co-founder Ev Williams (Live) · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“All right, so No, well, so I don't think Facebook has ruined democracy. So I think there's a couple things going on here. One, there's a whole class of tech criticism that is actually criticism of other people, right? Like, you know, the says, hell is other people.”
2019-05-24 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · Recode Decode: Facebook’s former security boss Alex Stamos and Twitter co-founder Ev Williams (Live) · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“I'm going to give you, I'm going to go off from our discussion. One of Alex's contentions, even though he talked a lot, and he's been one of the more forthright people in tech about what happened at Facebook and other places, is that it's misunderstood. So one of your arguments is that Facebook is misunderstood. Is that correct?”
2019-05-24 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · Recode Decode: Facebook’s former security boss Alex Stamos and Twitter co-founder Ev Williams (Live) · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT