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Alexandra Petri

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  1. It's a whole nother show. I also love that we're kind of not even paying attention to that media. It's a conversation that is happening, but it's not, but there's so many things that are going on right now that we're kind of not thinking. The effect that we're not thinking. But it's not

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  2. I've had so many opinions out there in the public sphere that I'm not sure I could go and sort of be like, just kidding, I don't have any opinions anymore. I'm just a human being. I'm an eye and a microphone, recording the news. But everyone else says, well, opinion journalists can break news. And I'm like, the kind of opinion journalist that I am, I'm not sure what news I'd be breaking. I want to kind of pitch, like, I'll just go and hang out at Moralago for six weeks. And people will probably just say stuff around me and I'll be able to have a lot of scoops. Between that... I I'll be able to have a lot of scoops.

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  3. Love, well, now we've gotten the most valuable concession you can possibly get from anyone, which is the word of honor of Mitch McConnell, or something will probably be discussed. As Merrick Garland knows so well, this is a badge that can be trusted and it's worth whatever concession you made. Knows so well this is a badge that can be trusted. And You

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  4. I think it was mostly a joke about the backlash to it because this idea that oh, it's gone far enough, we've had, I guess, two, three months of it, and it's done now because now we're uncomfortable. And some people have kind of suffered some consequences in a specific area. And that's enough. I'm uncomfortable now. That whole response has been fascinating. And so I was trying to poke fun at that, not be like, this movement should be over. I feel like you can make fun of the thing that's ridiculous in any circumstances. Right.

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  5. Right, right, right, right. And on the other side, women don't say that's not fair. You can't joke about it because I'm very nervous to make a Me Too joke online. I am because I feel like, you know, oddly enough, I saw Rose McGowan yesterday in person at an event, and I was like, I'm not making any jokes. Like, I didn't, you know what I mean? Like, there's certain things you feel like you can't joke about, but I really enjoyed you joking about it finally because there is some humor to be found in every, even the most dire of stories.

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  6. She's a lady I think, well, part of it is sometimes there's just a trope that people start embracing without intentionally realizing they're doing it that is an inch from parody. We're sort of living in Poe's Law Heaven where a very earnest version of the thing itself is indistinguishable from a parody of the thing. And so a lot of these like, ah, we've gone too far. And how I won't be able to hug women at the office. I won't be able to go up to my subordinates and ask them to bear my child any longer. How will the office culture survive? And it's like These are not things that should be happening. And so, a lot of Any longer? How will the office culture survive?

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  7. She just wants to write his credit. Executive producer because there's like 90 of them. We have only a few more minutes with Dick Costlow as his Cinderella time at Rico Deco is winding down. But let's finish up talking about the Me Too because your last column on the Me Too was tremendous. And I think a lot of people did actually initially take it seriously. Come on, ladies, like feet up on the desk. Several people were like, oh, this guy's a jerk. I'm like, it's a comedy column.

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  8. No, they don't fall in love. They could. That's the size of these. That happens. She's in love with her, but she doesn't want to be with him. She wants to be with the guy who's nothing like a Supreme Court justice.

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  9. Oh, woman, 100% And so maybe you start it where a crusty old sort of scalia type like, well, he'll wingman with her and like go on hunting trips. Right, right. And then they'll fall in love. Oh, no. I wasn't even thinking they would fall in love. No, they don't fall in love.

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  10. No, but think of it. It's like it'd be like a movie, I feel, because you'd have a middle aged Supreme Court justice, sort of like a cake and.

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  11. Gig economy millennial in me is like, can I not do both of those things? But I would like to write something bigger that gets to stay when the news of the day has evaporated. Much as I love writing a column every day, that does mean that it's sort of like writing in water. You can put all kinds of craftsmanship or whatnot into it, or you can just type it really fast. But either way, once the news cycle moves on, no one's like, oh, I really want to go back to three months ago when you wrote that piece about Ted Cruz. Really, for some reason, Ted Cruz is coming up. Man.

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  12. Watching Alex Jones is fantastic. The Amazon Echo piece video with Alex Jones, you have to watch it. You have to see it. He talks to the Amazon Echo and basically infers from the way it communicates back to him that it's like listening at all times. And Jeff Bezos is spying on all of us.

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  13. Like it's like saying a restaurant is funny because they do comedy there every Wednesday the place where the conversation

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  14. My grandmother used to, my grandmother, if my grandmother used to say about somebody, you know, I happen to like Alex and that meant Alex is just about to get thrown right under the, that was it for Alex, no more. We'll be seeing him again

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  15. Yeah, I do enjoy Twitter. I enjoy the aforementioned all-in toast, although they're gone now. McSwaneus has a lot of good stuff.

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  16. What do you think is going to happen? They all did close. It all was very funny. The toast was the same thing. How do you, you know, and Dick and I have been talking this week about various places? People are doing comedy. And some of it, you know, some people have said it's really hard to make money at. It's very hard. But there's obviously Twitter is funny. There's tons of stuff that's great on Twitter. Where do you like some of the more interesting stuff is happening?

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  17. RIP, the all, and RIP the toast. But there were many great places for comedy writing online, and especially for female voices like Lindy West, like Mallory Ortberg, they weren't often political. And now Lindy West writes a column where it's not all caps and it's a thoughtful, well-researched, and still full of amazing lines, but it's not just Titanic was bad and it's an all-capital letters. But no, I think it's both a vintage thing to be doing and actually a very of the now thing to be doing.

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  18. Comedy is. Well, I really like, I actually think we're sort of in a boom for online comedy writing because if you think of it as like a traditional column, the print newspaper on the one hand is getting thinner and thinner and fading away. And especially local newspapers are having difficulties. But the internet is having this resurgence of comedy writing like never before, I feel. Because as a bad millennial, I'm not enjoying this whole pivot to video that everyone's doing where suddenly it's all a video and you have to watch it for four minutes even with the subtitles. And I like just reading something to get my whatever it is. And so there's late night comedy shows doing great work, but it's all in video format. And if you like your jokes on the page, then this is a great time to be writing jokes on a page. And I feel like the internet.

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  19. What elevat You make all the pitches in the one elevator Like, that was how I pictured Hollywood for a long time, was like, you would go and just find an elevator and just stand in there being like, no, but so there's a Supreme Court justice and she needs to go on a date, but we'll find her a date.

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  20. We would have been able to have comedic arguments about policy, which would have been nice instead of jokes about, oh, nuclear war!

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  21. Made lots of jokes about, I mean, can you imagine sitting through a Clinton administration because half of the media would just be like, we need to light her on fire now. And here's a bucket of pitch. And here are 16 things that are wrong.

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  22. Very easily parodyable corners that people keep backing themselves into. I feel like the Democrats have their share of easily parodies.

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  23. I think it sort of depends if you're like making fun of people. It's easier to be like, oh, look at these people that Donald Trump has dredged up from under what strange rock. But if you're making fun of the issues and these sort of...

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  24. Yeah, you pressure it until Cecily Strong. That's an amazing one. And I'm like, I didn't see that one. Oh, you've got to watch it. Yeah, she's all up and bothered because she's got people running against her.

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  25. One of my favorite things on SNL recently was they had this parody of how hip and cool we are trying to be and like look, I'm Chuck Schumer, I'm standing in a field in a button down. See, voters from the middle of the country will relate to this. It's like we are the ones who aren't racist, but then again, we are very mad about the economy. Sort of like, they did a very funny S&L parody of Diane Feinstein, which I didn't realize you could do a Diane Feinstein impression until Cecily Strong. This amazing one. And I'm like, that is Diane Feinstein. I didn't see that one. Oh, you got to watch it. It's a very hip, cool video.

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  26. I feel like that's what Ryan and McConnell have to do to Trump's tweets. Like they are presented with this nonsense thing that just happened. He may have just, like the morning he tweeted that the legislation he actually wanted passed on FISA was actually something they shouldn't pass. And then they ask Ryan and McConnell about it. And they have to sort of pretend like it's a real thing they're responding to. And they give it this sort of gravitas that everyone on the planet knows doesn't exist. It's just sort of like, come on, you know, you want to look at them and go, come on, come on.

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  27. One of my favorite things about McConnell and Ryan now is that there's in Silicon Valley, there's this sort of goofy tradition of you'll put a fake PowerPoint presentation in front of somebody. It's just for fun. And it's full of nonsense slides. And you have to present it as if it's an actual presentation. I feel like that's very like karaoke for PowerPoint. It's really not that good at all.

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  28. It's a real referendum on this administration that Ted Cruz, who otherwise would be a captivating and mesmerizing figure, is just a nobody is, yeah.

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  29. Oh, those I love because they keep sort of making these bold statements and then you look at what they're actually doing on the page or in action and it's completely different. I like, and they're always like, oh, we got to have a legislative achievement. It doesn't matter what that is or how destructive it is to live. Let's just have this accomplishment. Which is the fun.

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  30. I feel captions aren't used enough. Spy magazine used to. Dick, do you remember? The captions. If you go back and look at old issues, they just have pictures with captions and the captions were literally the funniest things that make you laugh for days and days the way they caption them. And it was often Donald Trump. A short-fingered vulgarian.

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  31. What I look like. Oh, here's what it would look like. Right, right, right, exactly. And then you stay away from ballerinas. Oh my God, the ballerinas. Did you go to that event? No. They were just ballerinas. It was just Melania Belleras. My favorite was Melania by herself and ballerinas.

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  32. So the pottery barn nightmare of. Everything that was going on. It's like, what if we didn't have non white decorations? What would that look like? Oh, here's what it would look like.

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  33. Oh, that, just the visuals from that. And are Eric Thomas wrote this really hilarious thing? We just went through and captioned all of them where it's like, I think the white witch from Narnia would like to speak to your manager. And it was like, yes, this is everything.

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  34. I feel like a lot of this, like if you laugh at Gothic horror, this is a great administration to find comedy in. Because sometimes you just describe it and it's like, oh no, this is a Bronte novel and it's like a less beloved Bronte novel.

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  35. And goes in, she wrote this incredible Mrs. Dalloway parody that was. Right, right. But that was sad. That was so sad. It was beautiful. It was a beautiful piece. And I thought, exactly, this is her life.

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  36. Well, my favorite Melania piece ever was in the New York Times magazine, Julanda and Gospel wrote this incredible Mrs. Dalloway parody that was, what if inside Melania is this? And I just thought that was my head canon for what Melania's life is like.

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  37. I just think, like, he's easy to make fun of, but everything he advocates for is so terrifying and he's being listened to and given a platform by this. And so I mostly try to make fun of what he's advocating for and being like, this is bad. Don't say this.

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  38. To light the way for you away with a torch. Get back, get back. You unwashed masses, yearning to breathe free. So I think like...

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  39. I've described in the context of he'll show up at the press briefing and rant about how the Statue of Liberty, in fact the poem was added later.

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  40. Like going after people's looks because that's such a Trump strategy. On the one hand, like. Some people's exteriors and interiors match nicely. Pointing that out when there's so many other things that they're doing, or like his sort of grandiose, I'm a chessmaster playing on like 18 levels to me is funnier than like, oh, like.

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  41. Just his vision of the world is terrifying, and his whole sort of like, no, no, no, it's economic nationalism, which is not white supremacy. That's a very different thing. It's ridiculous how many people like, oh, sure, probably. We buy that. No. I mean, all the forces he's activated are like evil, bad.

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  42. Certainly a take that you would get, but I assume only by sitting next to Steve Bannon and just having him talk to you for.

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  43. Or maybe Steve Bannon calls it Girvanka. Right. But Steve Bannon. The book was just most of it was like by the time you got to the end of it, it was Steve Bannon who's also lost 20 pounds and will be president soon. Right.

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  44. And also, not my favorite thing about the Fire and Fury book that took us all my storm was they were trying to make Gervanka happen, which I've never heard. No, Ivanka. It's Javanka. Yeah. It's like, get your porkmateus right. You're making me question the whole versacity of this.

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  45. Like all these sort of unnamed sources being like, they are miserable, and we saw them at brunch, and we didn't even acknowledge them. They were friends back in New York are like, oh, yes, it's a very difficult time for them. And they did not recently go to a gala because they knew they would not be well received, which is a tragedy because their brands have been so successful so far. And so there is this very specific. Tragedies playing out for them.

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  46. My favorite thing is Jared and Nuvanka, all the Washington publications have taken it on themselves to be as specifically like the DC sort of like social scene publications are like they are not fitting in well and they arrive at brunch and people turn and walk away.

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  47. Well, Erica's birthday card. I like that they send out an email being like, hey, don't forget to wish Eric a happy birthday. And I'm like, doesn't he have like three other people we should be wishing happy birthday to?

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  48. You've got this weird community production of the lion in winter that is his family. Just like who's Jeffrey? You could just have a full

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  49. Like some people, you really have to work, and you get almost entirely give them a personality of your own choosing, whereas these people come pre-assembled.

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  50. We keep talking about it, but we'll see. We'll see if he comes through. I got to go to New York. I got to go have a lunch. Are you kidding? I'm going to go to his restaurant. We're going to have a giant steak. I'm going to wear my silk tie. It's going to be great. The whole thing.

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