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Alyssa Mastromonaco

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  1. An axe went purple in the face, purple, and said, travel agency, no offense to travel agents. He's like, she could run the joint chiefs. And I was like, I appreciated that. I will never forget that because I was dying on the inside and you were just like, you just jumped to my rescue and I will always tell people.

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  2. No, this is the wonder of Acts. So we were on the campaign and very famous television anchor who I will not name came to do a tour of the headquarters with Axe. And so Axe had planned all the stops and I was a stop and Pfeiffer was a stop. And I think Pfeiffer was the first stop. And this person says how young and handsome Dan Pfeiffer is. And, you know, he looks too young to have all this responsibility. And Axe brings this person to me and what this person says is, so Alyssa. If Obama wins, what's your next move? Are you going to go start your own travel agency?

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  3. You know, my problem has been if Donald Trump hadn't have become president, if Hillary had won, I never would have looked back. You know, I never wanted to be one of those people that we dealt with on the reg, who are like fishing for state dinner invitations. You're like, didn't you go 10 years ago? Like, why do you want to go to this one? And I don't want to be that person. But if I think someone needs my help to take him down, I would probably...

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  4. Logistical conversation, he said, I go, you know, so I'm going to go over and I'm going to take care of the people in the East Room for the Christmas party, which was one of the ones that was open to the public, right? So, and he said, Alyssa, I'm, you know, I need a couple minutes, but I got to go over. There are people who saved up all year to come and see me at Christmas. And even though it's so sad, they need to see me and I need to tell them it's going to be okay. And those are the moments when I wonder, and I literally thank God that nothing that terrible has happened because I don't know that this White House is capable of making America feel okay when something like that happens.

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  5. Did with me and John Brennan because Brennan and I were sort of each keeping, I was sort of dealing with the White House side of things and he was talking to the FBI and Brennan came to my office and he said it's worse than we could have imagined and we had to go up and tell POTIS together what had happened. And this is part of the being in the White House because it was December 14th, I think. Christmas events are going on in the White House. As Brennan and POTIS and I have tears running down our faces trying to have a

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  6. The most terrible, oh, it was Newtown. It was Newtown. That was, you know, and I tried to tell, especially when I was at Vice Young reporters that when you're in the White House and you see how things unfold,

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  7. I know that people would You know, it's funny. I can't, I could never go back to the White House because I think that anything short of us all being back together again would not be worth it. I think that we were the luckiest people on Earth to have been together and to have seen the good and the very, very bad. That's actually some of unfortunately the most memorable things were the really terrible times. And so I wonder what...

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  8. That defines some of who you are, but it was actually this has all been part of a conversation because I said to, I was talking again to Pfeiffer yesterday and I'm like, I think I peaked at 35. And I go, are we like child stars? Am I going to be Danny Bonaducci? And he's like, he goes, no, just keep the pot to a minimum. You'll be fine. But that was, you know, and if I did peak at 35, then I am the luckiest 35-year-old that ever was.

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  9. In a way, it took me years to actually realize that had happened. Interview with Shane Smith, who's larger than life, who's so excited to have me on board this very nice New York Times story comes out about me, and I show up for my first day of work advice. And, you know, I think Solicita from the White House in Williamsburg, everybody's going to know who I am. And I go on the first day, and the woman at the front desk, I was like, hi. My name is Alyssa Master Monaco. And she's like, are you here to interview? And I was like, no, it's my first day. And she's like, okay, sit on the couch. I'll find someone for you. And I was like, wow. This is it. And you come to realize that you've had wonderful experiences.

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  10. You're not on it. You're not on it, and you think that you've been so integral. And look, I always try to tell myself that I led my team in a, you know, if I should get hit by a bus, you know, the whole point of my position there was that if I had to leave on a beat, things would go out would go on as if I were there, you know. And I thought that's always been the responsible thing. But when you leave and the next day, you're like, everyone's going to call me because they're going to want to know how I do the manifests or whatever it was I was doing. And they don't. And a couple weeks go by and no one calls. I really spiraled. And so...

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  11. Know, and people don't talk about it, but you live off of adrenaline. There are two things that happen. You live off adrenaline for all of those years and then you go off a cliff. And everybody thinks, oh, you must be so stoked, like sleep 10 hours a day when really you're looking at your phone and you're like, why doesn't anyone need my opinion?

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  12. A whole nother place I did. But I also, it took me a while to understand that I really did suffer from depression when I left the White House.

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  13. Instead of forcing myself to try to learn things, I just figured out what questions I wanted to ask. And when I went in and led with curiosity, I think that they respected, that I understood our relationship and that they were the experts and that we would be partners. And from that point on, it was easier, though I was just saying to Dan Pfeiffer the other day that I wished we had been just like a couple years older when we had gotten to the White House because despite, I think, having done a job as well as someone 20 years older than us could have done in our jobs, there is a, I look back and I wish I had appreciated things more. Like I know I'm a sensitive person. I knew I could get my nose out of joint. I rarely get my nose out of joint now. And so I think that that was the, there was like an emotional maturity. I could have used maybe like an extra couple of years, though I may just be so awesome now because

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  14. Like some asshole who's like, I know everything, and I decided that when I was preparing for the meeting, I went through the binder. And instead of learning what I needed

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  15. You know, a lot of the interesting things is that people always want to tell me or ask me about sexism. You know, you were with all these men and the sexism and I have always been clear. The only thing I ever suffered from on occasion was ageism. And it was not from the people in the Obama team, you know, you go into the White House and you have a shirt with hearts on it because you forget you're meeting with the White House military office and you have the rank of a three. I had the as deputy chief of staff for operations. I had the rank, the protocol rank of a three-star general. Okay, but there are real three-star generals that you're meeting. You don't have parts on this shirt who do not have hearts on their shirts. And, you know, one of them actually said to me, because I had done, of course, many conference calls with them, and they were basically like, if you want people to take you seriously, stay on the phone, because in person, I am quite cherubic, but I decided that instead of going in,

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  16. Right, but the truth is that you're in the hands of the best people to get you there. And any president who goes out and tries to pat themselves on the back because it was scary is insane. I mean, that was really, I had to turn off at that point. I was like, this is beyond my realm of comprehension.

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  17. Yeah, I think it was because I was the only lady in the conference room. And we land and we had to just pivot on the dime. All of a sudden instead of going to meet all these leaders where they are, we're in Ray Ordierno's house, which had previously been, I think, Sodom Hussein. Mother in law, I think it was his mother in law's palace. And all of these leaders are coming through with these armed

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  18. And we're flying into Camp Victory in Iraq, and we get word from, again, Emmett and General Reordiero, who was down on the ground. And they say there's a sandstorm coming. And you're not going to be able to take the helicopter to see the leaders of Iraq. And so we come up with a plan. There's actually a pretty famous picture of all of us on that. Yes, in the conference room on Air Force One.

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  19. Could track you and bad things could happen. So it's our first trip ever, and I always tell the story because Axe is the one who busted me, is that I was so nervous I was going to barf on the helicopters that I loaded my coat jacket with plastic bags and Axe is like, Alyssa, why are you so puffy? And I was like, what do you mean I'm fine? He's like, no, like, what's in your jacket? And I was like, okay, I don't want to be the girl on the trip that barps on everybody and acts as like, why do you think we're not going to barf? And I was like, well, then I'll share the bags.

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  20. With storms, our first trip, you were on the first trip to Iraq. And we. I mean, talk about, we never did things the easy way ever. And so we decided our first trip to Iraq should be at the end of like a 10-day trip that concluded in Turkey. And we had this whole cover story that one of the planes was broken. And so some of us were going on ahead and everybody else was going to wait for the other plane to be fixed. So we get on the plane. We're flying out of Turkish airspace. You go dark. They explain all of this to you in advance. What's going to happen

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  21. It was our commitment, especially after that point, because at the end of that of our tour, they took us downstairs where my office would be, and they showed us all these binders that they had put together. And Acts, I do not know what we would have done without those binders. And so we told them our commitment to them was that we would make sure we updated those binders every two years and that whoever became president, if even in 2012, we would show them the same kindness that they showed us And we did

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  22. And you're really not going to enjoy anything that other people think is wonderful. And so we wanted to make sure that you got to enjoy the spirit of Christmas because you're never going to enjoy it again. And they gave us a tour of the entire house and the Christmas decorations.

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  23. Was not common. Yes, exactly. We all relate, and we get into the West Wing reception. And the greatest leaders of the world, celebrities, philanthropists, performers have all been in that space. And you are overwhelmed. You know, I had never been to the White House before ever. And we're overwhelmed and the kindest thing I think that anyone's ever done is that it was Josh Bolton's idea to bring us chief of staff. He met with us, and we're just these little pip squeaks, you know? He met with us, and he said, we wanted to make sure we know what your jobs are going to be like when you get here.

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  24. And this is part of in this presidency of the last two years that really wounds me is that the first time we walked in, I was with Danielle, my deputy. We thought we were going for one of the many transition meetings that you have, which were in the EEOB, the executive office building, which is next door. And the Secret Service says to us, no, ladies, you're going into the West Wing, and we were like, no, no, no, no. And we were like, really chubby from the campaign, our clothes didn't exactly fit comfortably. And so we shuffled. By the way, that was...

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  25. And it was, and we could tell I was in Chicago watching it, and I really just couldn't believe that it was all coming together. But that was a, I watched that and I watch Wolf Blitzer. Say that we're going to, and because in the clip that you can find, he announces it, and then they go around the world showing the response around the world. And I mean, there's nothing.

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  26. Never as long as, and actually, when I am particularly down in the dumps and when I need inspiration to write the first book, I would rewatch the last event of the campaign in Manassas. And that was so special to me because you could watch Obama at the end of that event really taking it in. You know, and

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  27. Brad Pitt, what are you doing? But I was like, get out of my way. He's a little dude. He's like, I need to find my people. And that was, and the funniest thing is, is at the end of that night, my whole team got up on stage and took a group picture. And the only two people in the picture, not in the picture, are Danielle and I because we left to go home because that in fact was the day I had to be at the office at 6 a.m. the next day because we had a president-elect on our hands.

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  28. I mean, it was, you know, health food. And they called Ohio and they called, I think, New Mexico or something like that. And the girls said, oh my God, is this going to happen? And we ran over and got on my very elaborate trolley system that I had put together to get people to Grant Park. And as we were getting closer and closer, you could hear people shouting. And we pulled up and Wolf Blitzer was on the jumbo drawn and he had just declared Barack Obama.

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  29. And I still get teary eyed. Thinking about it. But all of you guys were in the bullseye or were the boiler room, whatever it was. And because I had celebrated early in 2004 and felt so strongly that I could not be the person who went to Grant Park early, I was sitting at my desk and my two deputies, Danielle and Jessica, came up and they were like, this is enough, enough. It was like eight or nine o'clock. They're like, you're going. And so we went down to hula hands and we had some... Chicken tenders and Pinot Grigio, and they called Ohio.

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  30. I have two. One is when everyone went to Iowa and there were about, it was about two weeks before the Iowa caucuses, and the entire Chicago headquarters had emptied out. And this is not hyperbole, there were about eight of us holding it down in Chicago. And I found one of my staff people, Chase Cushman, sleeping under his desk when I came in one morning. And I said, Chase, when did you get here? And he said, AM, it's crazy in Iowa. I had to stay here all night, like helping. Like he was helping remotely. And to me, that was the embodiment of our entire campaign. He wasn't complaining. He was just asleep under his desk. And the other one was the last day.

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  31. And so they were my friends. I knew them from Carrie Land, and many of them had gone back to go all the way back to Gore. And so we had four or five people who I said, if you do this for me, I will take care of you for the rest of your lives. I promise you'll work in the White House, which is something I was nervous about for two years after that point. But all these new people who had not done it before came down and Obama knew that. He knew. And he said, who are all these people? And I said, well, we're going to find out. And so he gets down for his first walkthrough the night before the event. And our friend Emmett had built the site, Emmett Bellivo, who was the director of advance. And I wanted him to take Obama for the walkthrough. And he comes back and I'm like, what did he think? And he asked if the stage was going to collapse. And when Emmett said no, he said good because that's about the worst thing that could happen tomorrow. And then Michelle made a comment about the worst thing.

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  32. Yes. So ultimately, if you're building the event and you're getting the people there, you somehow become responsible for the weather. And I had been in Springfield for a couple of days and it was so cold. I had on my hemp vest, my long north face sleeping bag coat, and a hat. And I don't think I took it off for three days. And we build the whole stage and also remember that We were really just running against Hillary Clinton at that point and campaigns or campaigns and it's, you know, so much time has passed. But the truth was, you know, they were very specific when I was asking people if they would come help us advance staff and other people to come help us with our announcement event. They had been told by the Clintons, if you do anything for Obama, you can't come back. Right.

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  33. We had less than nothing. We pulled off our announcement tour in February, not even having credit cards yet. So talk about building the plane as it's flying.

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  34. He goes, Will you insist on calling me senator? Just call me Barack. And I was like, But if I call you Barack, Ted Kennedy and Bob Byrd and these Lions of the Senate are going to think that you're not worth your salt because Pip Squeak is calling you Barack. And so we brokered a deal. Barack and private Senator Obama in public.

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  35. I thought he picked it himself, but they picked it for him. But that office was wonderful. And one day Pete says to me, you know, Obama wants to talk to you about something. And so I go into the office and I'm like, hey, what's up? He says, have I done something to offend you like United States Senator asking me? And I was like, sir, no, why?

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  36. The most loyal guy And Senator Obama then comes back from the Senate floor one day and says, you know, I've been talking about bipartisanship and, you know, I think John Thune and I are going to do an exchange program, or he comes to Chicago for a weekend and I go there. And Pete, who does not mince words, goes over my dead body, and that's where that died. Pete was Pete was, I mean, there was no...

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  37. Of staff for the majority leader who was defeated in 2000. The man who beat him, John Thune, was our next door neighbor in the Dirksen basement, and because Pete was the hundred and first mayor, he was able to have them create a pathway for him so he didn't have to walk by John Thun's office every day.

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  38. I went to work in his Senate office with some people you might have heard of, John Favreau and Tommy Vitor. And we sat in the back.

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  39. Don't you feel like Barack Obama was like moneyball before Moneyball was a thing? You know, he didn't pick the most famous people. A lot of people wanted to work for him, especially after that speech at the convention that year.

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  40. And when he left, I cried. He was like my only friend who I didn't know going in, you know. But it turned out he went to work for this man, Barack Obama. I'm like, who the hell is Barack Obama? Why are you leaving to go work for Barack Obama? And when we lost, I was in the, when John Kerry lost, I was in the headquarters filing things and making sure vendors got paid and closing it down a very depressing job when you lose. And I was sitting at my computer and my AOL instant messenger pops up from Roberto Gibbs and he says, and I could hear his voice through it, how are you? Do you need a job? And I was like, yes, I need a job. And he's like, call me tonight. And so Gibbs brought me into meet this man, Barack Obama. Actually, the first person I met was Pete Rouse.

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  41. I had first I loved working, I had never met anyone like Gibbs before, and we sat on the same floor. And I mean, he is a character. He is so smart. And I remember when Ethan was born, Ethan was born while we sat up on that floor.

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  42. Well, I mean, that was a high wire act, as Pluck would say. And I was so worried about Grant Park that day because it was 70 degrees and sunny. That was the forecast. I was like, it's all going to go tits up. And so I went and bought a raincoat. To ward off the rain because I thought, and there I was with my raincoat at my desk, and it was 75, and everyone was going over to Grant Park. And I was like, wait, I can't forget my coat. They're like, Alyssa, we want, leave your coat here. It's okay.

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  43. We had more than one, and by about it, it might have been seven o'clock or so, several of us had had way too many, and the numbers in Ohio started going south. And within a couple hours, we were not planning for the transition, but could we get Fanuel Hall on short notice for a concession speech? So much of it helped me though when Barack Obama ran for president, you know, you don't have the fireworks. You don't ask Bon Jovi to come sing. You go into everything like you have no idea what's really going to happen and you don't plan for winning. And so that was the attitude.

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  44. And I think that's probably how we all thought of it too. We were listening to exit polls, which I will never do again, but the exit polls had us up an incredible amount in so many states that we decided we knew we were going to, in my view, the next day I was going to have to be up at the crack of dawn transitioning. I had been part of the transition with Jim Johnson and Mary Beth and for months working on how someone becomes president the next day. And so I said to all the girls, I was like, well, let's have a drink now so that we can be up bright and early. So unfortunately.

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  45. Oh, well, he did not ask me because I would have been like scrappy doo out there for him. But for the rest of the campaign, you know, we had a lot more tumult than we had on the Obama campaign, people coming and going. And, you know, the thought that sometimes you have to just stay the course to get through the rough times. And I think that on that campaign, we pivoted a lot. And ultimately, it didn't. It didn't help us. And running against a wartime president is never easy.

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  46. It was, you know, you take away so much from every experience, but it was brutal. It was brutal because it was also the beginning of when small things became big things very quickly because the 24-hour cable news had really started to take off. And so I have feelings about justice and fairness, and you know, when the Swift boat ads happened and he didn't want to respond because in his core, he did not think that the American people would believe such garbage, except that cable news networks as part of the news were showing it more than it had even been paid for. But it was a case-by-case...

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  47. It should be hard. I always thought his resilience came from the fact that he had been through much worse in his life. I mean, I guess when you've been to Vietnam. You know, maybe struggling through Iowa in the winter is not as dramatic as some people feel it is. Yeah.

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  48. Yes, he took very little downtime after his surgery. And if I remember correctly, you know, he had to have a clospy bag for a while, which Mrs. Hines lovingly called his Gucci bag.

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  49. In November of 2002 to see if I would be willing to come back. And of course I wanted to. I mean a presidential campaign. I was like 26 at the time. And I had to get the Hutzpah up to go in and tell Rick Boucher. And he said I wouldn't let you stay if you wanted to stay. You know, because I think he had worked on Jimmy Carter's campaign and said it was such an incredible experience. So he was lovely about it. And people also forget this. So I signed on with Carrie. I started in December 2002. Shortly thereafter, he was diagnosed with prostate cancer. And so while I have deep affection for him, I'm like, oh my God, am I going to be unemployed again? But luckily he was okay. So it was all good.

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  50. No, and you know, I am someone. I'm very loyal. My parents always taught me when you take a job, you keep a job. You don't leave after nine months because John Kerry calls you. And Rick Boucher had given me tremendous responsibility. And I spent a lot of time in the 9th District of Virginia, which is near Tri-Cities. And when John Kerry called me,

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