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Amanda Carpenter

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  1. So well, probably Probably better Even though I was opposed to Hillary Clinton and a lot of policy reasons, I wasn't going to go into that stuff. And so that's why it focused on what she did as a U.S. senator, on her own merits, because even as a woman, I believed if she's going to campaign for president as the first female presidential candidate, let's look at what she's done on her own T2 feet. And there was plenty there. I mean, she had a lot of like weird donations from the Corning Company and earmarks that went to them, which never came out, but I was fascinated by because I always care about following the money. Fair

    2018-11-29 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 290 — Amanda Carpenter · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source

  2. Believe I participate in it. Do I think there are a lot of people that wanted me to? Like the story I just told about that book. Could I have written a very different book that was not on the level?

    2018-11-29 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 290 — Amanda Carpenter · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source

  3. Stuff I was raising there. I mean, that happens a lot, like kind of a fringe type activist, partisan write something, and then the mainstream press picks up on it.

    2018-11-29 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 290 — Amanda Carpenter · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source

  4. The first couple chapters delved on that, think about. Six weeks after my book came out, The Washington Post wrote a front page story about the foreign donations to the charity that were, I think were largely picked up on.

    2018-11-29 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 290 — Amanda Carpenter · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source

  5. So I was working as a Hill reporter and had access to senators of which Hillary Clinton was one at the time. And the publisher actually approached me with this idea and said, we want to do a book about Hillary Clinton. Do you think could you put something together? Here's the title. And I said, yeah, but here's my thing. I was 24 years old. I said, I'm not going to do a deep dive into what happened with Bill and Monica. I'm not interested. But if you will let me do a book about her 10 years as senator and what she's done here and how Republicans would potentially campaign against her for her expected run, that's what I can do. First chapter of the book, and what I actually had interviewed her about were her foreign. Donations through the Clinton Foundation, which did become a big issue. And I take him out of pride is that

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  6. Or other places So there was that tension, but the tension I experienced in writing at Ball State, I think, was largely in me just challenging people. And not just going along with the program.

    2018-11-29 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 290 — Amanda Carpenter · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source

  7. I mean, I don't think I had the whole. I mean, it's a big thing. Oh, conservatives are on a theater on campus. I didn't have that experience really. A because I was disconnected from campus life because I was always working 10 other jobs, you know, waitressing at the library, whatever. I wasn't like class was almost an afterthought. And also, I went to school in Indiana. So I think it was largely more conservative than, you know.

    2018-11-29 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 290 — Amanda Carpenter · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source

  8. Reading the Wall Street Journal and watching meet the press. And I had no clue, I had no cable TV. I had no subscription. I had no family that went into it. And all I did in the interview was say, this is what I did on campus. This is why I think I'm a conservative because I care about transparency and fiscal responsibility and want people to have a fair shot at these bureaucratic systems. And the last question that the editor asked me and said, okay, if we give you tape recorder, do you think you could walk up to Hillary Clinton and ask her a hard question? I said, absolutely. And they said, you got the job. And before I knew it, they gave me a tape recorder that was a little bit better than I had with Dr. Elvis. And they sent me to the hill. And that was that.

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  9. And through the course of the summer, just talking to college kids living there, they have a little house nearby where people could stay. They paid you $200 a month. I thought that was great. And Tim Carney, who writes for The Washington Examiner Now, came to do a talk. And I just kind of went up to him after and I said, you know, I really, what you do is really interesting. And he said, Well, you know what? I used to be this reporter at human events, and I know they have an opening. Do you want me to, you know, I'll let them know. I said, that'd be great having no idea what I was getting myself into and I had an interview and I didn't know anything about in terms of like.

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  10. Well, what happened was so leadership institute because you know, I was, I went to one of their startup paper groups and I guess I was one of the rare students who actually did it. And then they said, Well, would you like to come for an internship? And you just tell people about your experience because there was a lot of things that go on with doing that kind of thing. And I was like, that'd be great. Sure. Packed up all my bags and went. My plan was like, I'm coming to DC. I don't know what's going to happen, but that's where I'm going.

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  11. Yeah, I mean, but it's kind of the story of my life. Like, take on the establishment wherever you go. I mean, how else do you end up working for Ted Cruz?

    2018-11-29 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 290 — Amanda Carpenter · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source

  12. Story, it was a story, but I really just played the tape. You know, once I put it up and had to figure out how to upload it to MP3 to my really hooker by Crook website. So, yeah, that was the beginning

    2018-11-29 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 290 — Amanda Carpenter · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source

  13. Yes. And I walked in and he was ready and he had this whole recording of chapter. He said, I'm recording you. But what's funny, and I don't even, you know, I started talking about the program, and then he wanted to light into me. And I think, you know, atmospherics, stuff I didn't even know about racial tensions that were happening to him, you know, he wanted to vent at me. And so, when he started yelling, he threw a book down and he turned his recorder off. But I left my recorder on. And so I had all this great audio of him just losing it. And so.

    2018-11-29 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 290 — Amanda Carpenter · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source

  14. Yeah, well, actually, you know what? It was really funny after it all went down, I went to interview him. And I haven't even thought about this story for a really long time. So I had a tape regard. I went and got it at like a Best Buy, the cheapest one for like $15. I don't remember, but it was a big expense for me at the time because I was like, I'm going to go talk to this guy. Like, you accuse me of like, let's go. He had office hours. Like, I'm going to go. And I'm going to write a story about it.

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  15. And I wasn't involved with that. And so somehow the local paper got a statement from David Horowitz disavowing me. Making a racist poster. And I was like caught up in all this crazy stuff But that's what happens. And so to me, it was a good learning experience, although I'm kind of like, yeah, I wish the Republican Party would pay me somebody. I'm eating fast food.

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  16. Put it all of town, like wanted, you know, Professor Elvis, read the story at BSU.net. And this was my first experience of like kind of the stuff that comes at you was that he said because he had a beard and I printed a black and white poster, I was making out to be a terrorist, which absolutely was not the case. I couldn't afford color printer. And so I got that as just, you know, kind of this independent student trying to write about the system and saying, oh, you're making me out to be a racist. And who's paying you? Is the Republican Party paying you? All these weird questions, which I didn't even know I was like fully a Republican. And so all this stuff started coming at me. David Horowitz, who's like an activist. He had been trying to start a chapter of, what is it, young Americans, whatever his student chapters are.

    2018-11-29 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 290 — Amanda Carpenter · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source

  17. I wasn't on the, I couldn't afford the cafeteria program. That's for sure. I never had cafeteria food. Gas stations, I mean, that's what you do. And so he was coming to school. But what was interesting is that the professor that had brought Eric Sloser to town was an animal rights activist, whatever. He had actually been arrested for trespassing on a local farm. And so I wrote the story about that. Like, that's interesting. Professor had been arrested because he wanted to take pictures of animals factory farming. And so I had taken his picture off the, you know, the listserv, you know, whatever Google that he was on for Ball State and made a wanted poster.

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  18. Yeah, which I'm like, you don't like fast food? I live off that dollar menu right now, sir. But it was more about the cost that they were spending there. Whereas I was trying by hook or by crook to get a loan for $5,000. And it's like, I just wanted a Spartan. How come this isn't affordable for me? And I can't get the price. And so all that stuff was coming together. And I started writing about that.

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  19. In 2005. Might have been me just hitting it a million times. But what was interesting. Is at the time, so there was a college professor who I thought he's in charge of the student reading program that gave this author $25,000 to come to campus talk. And I thought that was a travesty.

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  20. Was and I caught the bug, it was, I saw students who were. Mean, kind of taking on the system in the way I saw it. And they didn't need the school to tell them they could have a column. They were doing it all on their own. And I wanted it. I wanted it badly. I started, I bought a website, you know, sitting at a table like this at one of those events. And I went back and said, I'm going to write about this. And so then it just kind of took off between the debate team and that and me working 10 million jobs and skipping class so I could feed my website. That's how I pretty much.

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  21. I said, well, yeah, I'd like to come, but I'm in Indiana. I have like $20 to my name. They said, no, we'll give you a flight and come out. What? Okay.

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  22. And I was so naive at the time, I didn't realize that school papers largely exist to serve as school propaganda. And of course, they're not going to like let somebody write that says, oh, I had some really negative things to say about your financial aid office. I didn't know that, but I was. Determined that someone had to know about this. And I just started talking to people, and randomly somebody said, you know, you know, there's programs in Washington that would help people like you get started writing. I said, okay, let me see. And someone from the leadership institute through an email, I was like, oh, let me know more information about how to be a journalist. And they said, Well, we're doing a paper thing out here where conservative students.

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  23. No, not at all. So I transferred, and I thought I discovered this huge scandal because I couldn't find out what Ball State cost. They said, you know, transfer things and, you know, fill out the FAFSA. Like, FASA, what are you talking about? You know, oh, there's financial aid. We just need your parents' tax forms. Oh, guess what? That's never going to happen. What tax forms? And so people kept telling me this help was available, and it wasn't unless you had parents to help there and do that for you and co-sign for you. How do you do that? And so I was getting frustrated with that. And I went and knocked on the door of the journalism program and knock, knock. Don't have any writers for the summer. Can I write about the student loan system and how hard this is? Because I don't think this is right. You know, I thought I'd uncovered a scandal

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  24. And I was like, oh, I never thought about that. I should, you know, I should look into that. And so once softball kind of washed up and I realized the school didn't have any there just wasn't a lot of opportunities to go anywhere from there. And I kind of sense that and I said, okay, well, let's see if I can transfer. And so I transferred. And that's where I learned how to navigate the student loan system. And that's where I found out I was a conservative between that bureaucracy and getting involved in the debate program and getting bounced from the school paper, which I desperately wanted right for, but they wouldn't let me write for.

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  25. Build beautiful communications build I randomly had a writing teacher who had coached a beta ball state in freshman program. And he just said, you know, he just planted the buck. It was just one of those meetings where he said, you know, I used to coach debate at Ball State. You would have been a great student to have there.

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  26. Yeah, we all want health Absolutely. Absolutely, we all want to get to the system where people get care. How you do that is the question.

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  27. VAs and they don't care that it doesn't work for the veterans. Know, and that's why I'm kind of passionate. One of the good things Trump has done is try to put them on a voucher system where they can go somewhere and just like, here's your money at least. You don't have to petition the VA and prove every little thing you got with Service Connected before they do anything. I mean, he very well could have died if my mom didn't have the connections at the hospital because she happens to work there. If he was on his own, yeah, he probably would have died.

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  28. Yeah, because he was treated and he was back home and it's over. It was over before anything could happen. And, you know, he was on, there's a charity care system where they have a fund. The hospital feels sorry enough for you, they'll pay for it. And that's what happened. And I think, you know, his family's in try care now. But for the worst of it, Weren't there for

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  29. You know what? I don't have a number. Because I tracked it down because I was when I was working in the Washington Times, I was petitioning our congressperson there, Dale Kildy. Can you please look into that? Open a case to try to get to the VA because we know what this is, but the bureaucracy doesn't catch up

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  30. VA? Is this why? Absolutely. Absolutely. There was no doubt where he got this disease. It doesn't exist in the United States. And they wouldn't help them. Do you have any idea?

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  31. Not on his face. Some people got in that, I mean, he's a good looking guy. He's great now. He has a kid. He's married. He's great. But that was VA,

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  32. Had he not been in that unit just preventing the infection? And he was sidelined probably eight months. My mom had to take time off to take care of it, to change the wounds because it was all over. If you see him now, you would think that he got hit with IED. People think he got hit with IEDs.

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  33. Training to be an EMT at the time, so they're like, oh, you picked up some weird super bug. We don't know what it is, but it didn't get better. And these swords broke out in huge boils. And they would not heal. So to the point where he was in a burn unit to try to control the infections. And it turned out what he got was a disease called Leishmaniasis, which is a third world disease. Some people call it the Baghdad boil. Submarines in Michigan and Texas who go to these places have gotten it. You get bitten by an infected sandfly. And it's a blood disease. And it takes six months to a year to materialize. And then it comes up in your body, huge sores, and some of the treatment is outlawed by the FDA because it's a third world disease. We don't have it here. And so he almost died.

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  34. Did he serve in Iraq and Afghanistan? And it was a largely good experience for him, except for when I was in college, he came home. He did his four years. He saw some hard things and he had some friends pass away under hard circumstances that he witnessed, which is hard. But the hardest thing was that he came home and he started breaking out in these weird sores all over his body. And I was a junior. I was at Ball State by then. And my mom said, you know, Matt, we don't know what's wrong with him, but we have him in the Bernion on Charity Care in the hospital where she works. Nobody knows what is wrong with him. It might be a bloody disease. Nobody knew what it was. And the VA would not help him because he couldn't prove it to service connected, whatever was wrong with him.

    2018-11-29 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 290 — Amanda Carpenter · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source

  35. Yeah, I was always an avid reader, but I also was attracting to writing because a lot of people think it's hard and the hard things were attractive, but also I don't know when I learned this. I think in high school, but like once you put things down on paper, people will pay attention to what you have to say more. There's something very magical about just putting something on paper and putting it out there. Suddenly, you could tell something randomly and cry or out to somebody, but until you write it down, it kind of doesn't matter.

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  36. Yeah, and I just ruined my shoulder. And so I had a writing teacher because I was interested in writing, but I thought it would be sports writing. And through that process,

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  37. I don't know. I think there's, I just have always been attracted to pressure situations. And I think that's what attracted me to being a softball pitcher, to have the ball and sort of be in control of the game. People say, why do you like softball? I said, Well, I didn't like it. If I had to bat or play the field, I would have never done it. It would have been terrible. Who wants to do that? But, you know, it was great. I just, I love pitching. And I think it was because you could be in control of that situation.

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  38. Yeah, I think my high school softball coaches still want to kill her for this. But. But it all worked out because through that I realized I still want to do something competitive. And how do you do something competitive once your body is sort of useless? Yes, you got it.

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  39. Yes. Always. I always had the writing bug. I always loved reading and writing But I never knew how to do anything beyond sports. And so, of course, like, okay, maybe I'll just be a sports writer for a local newspaper. And that would be great. I'd love to do that and maybe coach softball pitching on the side because those are the things I knew and I was good at. And then so my freshman year, I destroyed all the cartilage in my shoulder. I still can't carry a bag on my left shoulder to this. Really? Yeah. Yeah.

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  40. And so I quickly realized my sophomore year that this I can't do this. I wanted to maybe do, I thought it'd be a sports writer. I thought that's how I would parlay it. I would coach writing.

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  41. Yeah. And I did that and my freshman year, there's two pictures ahead of me. One girl got pregnant, the other picture, the other one dislocated. Her shoulder sliding into second base during spring break, which is totally stupid. So I pitched every game my freshman year.

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  42. Yeah, so a lot of people ask me about how you get involved in politics, and I tell people I never expected that because I was a jock in high school. That was my way to get out of judge, you know, a lot of kids that have family issues. You find a way to work around it. And my way was to go to sports camp. And I was a softball pitcher. And I loved it. And I just threw myself into it and got to college on a sports scholarship in northern Indiana. A small school called Tri-State, which has now been renamed and bulldozed into something else called Trine. And so I went to school there. I picked the school because it was as far as my car could go, which is three hours down the road. Because you

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  43. Getting right in the barrier, aren't we? Yes, my parents, I haven't seen my dad since I was 13, and I don't want to get into it because if I talk about publicly, it'd probably bummer out. But yeah, mostly she raised me and my brothers. And like a lot of families, people deal with drug addiction, not through her, but through other people she had met and been romantic with. And so, yeah, I don't go back too much. They come visit me and it's a happier experience.

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  44. Was a nurse. Yeah, she works in medical billing. So she had been a nurse, moved over to Billing. She works at the Flint Hospital today. She deals with bringing people in to be residents, a lot of people from foreign countries that are coming in to be doctors, do the residency in Flint. And so, yeah, I don't go back a lot, to be honest.

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  45. No, I don't think so because when I was growing up there, the jobs were already gone. Most of the dads in my town had some affiliation with GM. So I graduated from high school in 2000. By then the jobs were gone. Flint was already a sinkhole. You didn't go there. I grew up in a small farm town outside of Flint. I wasn't allowed to go to the mall in Flint. I don't think I went there until I got my driver's license when I was 16. And

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