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  1. To pregnancy massages. And I just really wanted to get away from everyone because I was overwhelmed by feeling like I had to host all these people and be cheerful and be hosty. So I told Neil, I'm splitting. I'm still going to go. I'll be back in a day. So Christmas Day, I drove over to Kropalu. I checked in. I went to my 7 o'clock pregnancy massage. I hadn't called to say, hey, by the way, and this woman met me in the lobby, and she was so beautiful. And she came up to me and she said, I'm so excited to massage you and your little one. And I was like, ah. Let's not talk about it right here, but when we get to your room, I have a conversation I need to have with you. We got into her treatment room and I said, listen, I probably should have called ahead. I'm going through a miscarriage right now. And she looked at me and she said,

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  2. And Christmas happened, and I had a really rough Christmas morning. It was me and Neil and his kids, and I was, they all knew what was happening. And it was, you know, it was kind of hard, as you can imagine, to deal with the joy of Christmas and let's all do this when you literally know that this is happening and about to happen. And I had bought myself two nights at Kropalu, which is like a Yoga hotel in western Massachusetts as a gift to myself Christmas night and the day after. And I was going to go there. It was like an hour and a half drive from our house. I was going to go there, be alone, do some yoga, sit in a sauna or, you know, sit in a whirlpool or whatever. Probably wasn't going to sit in a whirlpool because I was pregnant. I was just going to do some self-care. And I had scheduled.

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  3. Anil was off in London at Terry Pratchett's funeral, his friend who had just died, and I called him. And this was a few days before Christmas. And, you know, the... The midwife gave me a bunch of information and she said, You're going to start what the process is going to be like. You're going to start bleeding as soon as you start bleeding. Here are the numbers to call. It's Christmas. Things are a little weird. You might need to do this. You might need to go to a hospital. If you haven't started bleeding within six days, we're going to need to do a DNC, which is basically where they just go in and take everything out. And I'm being told this 10 minutes after getting this news. And my head is just like swimming in. Grief and confusion, and all of the plans I had made in my life literally collapsing in one moment.

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  4. She didn't say it in a mean way. She was really curious, like as if I had just thought of some funny joke that I was going to tell her. And I looked at her and I said, I'm just waiting for my good news, which I know is coming. And five minutes later, she told me I'm really sorry The baby has no heartbeat. And I have to say, one of the things that occurred to me in that moment wasn't just, oh my God, I'm not going to have a child and I'm having a miscarriage. I remember thinking in that moment. Oh my God, am I going to become the kind of person now? Who does not move through the world with optimistic certainty? Like, is this going to be my other game changer where I just move with a different kind of certainty? Is this going to make me bitter? I remember thinking that in that moment.

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  5. In London, and I went for ultrasound. And there had been a little bit of maybe things aren't totally okay because the baby's heart beat had been a little slow. So I was already a bit on edge. It's actually worth adding a part of this story that I'm not sure I've told I remember walking. From the ultrasound with the midwife down the hall of this clinic. And I was like I'm just so fundamentally optimistic and I just barrel forth in life with this attitude that everything is going to be absolutely fine and go my way. And I just had that feeling. I just felt this gut instinctive certainty. Things were good And so we're walking down the hall of this clinic, and the midway looked at me and she said, What? Why are you smiling?

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  6. Oh, because we were just barely holding it together, juggling kid number one, because the two of us, if you haven't noticed, we are like relentlessly workaholic and productive and figuring out how to do the dance with one child was just starting to feel workable. And I was like, okay, well, if I also believe the parents around me, this is going to be a game changer. Like a lot of parents will tell you having a second child isn't like multiplying. It isn't one plus one and then you've got two and it's just twice as much work. It's like 10 times as much work. You have to change the whole ecosystem if you want to support two children. And I buy it and I've seen it firsthand and I think that's true. And Neil was.

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  7. Yeah, I mean, there's so much I could say about it. And I mean, I could talk about it for hours. I found out that I was going to, I was very happy to be pregnant. I was coming up on three months. Ash was And Neil and I were over the moon. We were a little scared, but we were really excited.

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  8. Know not to skip too far ahead, but it actually isn't until now talking to you that I realized that that experience. Resonated right along with how I felt when I had a miscarriage. It was the same sort of experience and also that same feeling of being kind of feeling like I'd been kind of gypped by cult That you know, no one told me that these things were so natural and that we become equipped to deal with them and that there's nothing scary about it. And that you don't need anyone to protect you from it. Actually, taking it in is a lot better for you.

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  9. He had also woken up. It was bizarre. It was like six in the morning, you know, 5 30, 6 in the morning, and I never wake up early. And he came in and he didn't say anything to me And he picked up a guitar and he started playing. And I just spent the rest of the day With my phone off as much as off as I could make it. And I was like, I know enough about fucking life at this point. I know that my only job right now is to feel. Feel this grief as deeply as I can. This is not something I want to defer or repress. I spent the whole day crying. I fucking, you know, I went to downtown Lexington. I went into Pete's coffee crying. I went up to get a coffee. Crying. The guy behind the counter actually knew Anthony. He started crying. Everyone cried all day. But it didn't, you know, it felt really natural. It felt really normal.

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  10. And I also felt a really strange kind of peace. And I woke up without an alarm the next day at dawn. Anthony's body was still there. And I went. I slept at my parents' house across the driveway. It's just like childhood in reverse. And I walked, I snuck into Anthony and Laura's house. Anthony was just laid out in his hospice bed And I sat there and I looked at his dead body, and I thought, Why are we? Told to be so afraid of I just remember feeling like, oh, wow, I'm just there's no fear. There's this whole narrative about death and dead bodies, and it's also creepy and gross and scary. And I just felt an incredible kind of peace. And I sat down. And I started to meditate. And then our friend Nicholas, the one who had buried his wife.

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  11. I had never watched someone die, and there was someone else in the room, our friend Nicholas, who had watched his wife die. He had lost her a few years before and he had sat by her deathbed and he had the knowledge. He knew That certain things happened in a certain order when someone is just slowly checking out. Happens with your eyes, what happens with your breath? And I was like, wow, like once again, like, no one ever told me any of this. Nicholas knows because he just went through it, but all of this hidden knowledge that I'm sure people who work in hospice must have down pat because they're taught. And he went at night. Neil and I went to bed together. We were all exhausted because we had basically been up. For a few days waiting for this moment to happen.

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  12. I let myself get hit with the full weight of mourning. I woke up. It was so interesting. No one's ever asked me that question, actually. It's such a good question. Neil and I had raced home. To be there at his deathbed because things got very bad very fast. And we flew home from London. We were there. We were working on something or other. I don't even remember And we raced home and then we sort of sat. You know, we sat deathbed for about Two or three days with Anthony's wife, Laura, and a few other really, really close friends. He died at night. And it was right around the time of the June equinox. I think it was the day before the longest day of the year. He went at night And I mean, I. I had never really sat and just watched someone die. Because it's a process, it's a physical, physiological process

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  13. To be able to introduce Anthony to my son, to Ash. They never got to meet. And Anthony would have been so incredibly proud to see me incarnated as a mother. And I But I also he was my teacher and almost feels like the last huge teaching that he gave to me was his death and sitting with it and absorbing it and being okay with it and letting him go and not attaching Grieving, weeping, but not. Not regretting.

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  14. I feel like I lost my friend not even to death but to steroids because his attitude towards life and towards me and towards everything became so vicious. And that was almost harder to see than death. And I changed my life. Neil and I were completely uprooted. We had sort of had a plan. Our relationship was still quite new. We uprooted ourselves. We moved to Boston and I nursed my friend. I took him to chemo. I watched him die. And in the midst of all that, I had an abortion and I got pregnant and I, you know, I was seven months pregnant when I had to let go of Anthony. They were, you know, I was this close. And, you know, nowadays if I want to make myself cry, you know, I can't think about Anthony dying anymore. He's gone. That ship has sailed. But I can really get myself going thinking how close I got.

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  15. Then it was a shit show because it was second opinions, third opinions. No, you're going to be fine, know you're going to die in six months. No, yes, this, that, the other thing. Ultimately, he died about four years later. It was a very rough ride to the end. He was on steroids, heavy steroids, and you probably speak steroid. He was on 100 milligrams of prednosona day. Which is Crazy making.

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  16. Because in Lexington, Massachusetts, I just wasn't stumbling upon this kind of stuff. My teachers weren't really showing me the way. My parents weren't really showing me certain ways. And I cannot imagine what my life would have looked like if this guy hadn't moved into that house. And when he Our relationship was so... Fundamental to me that if I ever needed to make myself cry for a project, for theater, whatever, all I would have to do is cast my mind into the possibility that he might die. And I would be brought to weeping. And then right around the time of my, right before my Kickstarter, so around 2011, he started having all sorts of strange health problems, one bizarre symptom after another until finally he was told that he had a very rare form of leukemia and had six months to live. And then

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  17. He was. Yeah. Anthony Anthony and I had a really unique, blessed relationship. He came into my life when I was nine. I lived in a leafy green suburb, you know, with my very, you know, Pretty normal household. My sister, my older two stepsiblings would come over sometimes. They didn't live with us. My stepdad and my mom. And Anthony moved in when I was nine. He was probably 35. He was a grown up. And he and his new wife, Laura, was his second wife. Didn't have children and opted not to have children. And Anthony and I kind of adopted one another. And he became to me first nice grown up neighbor friend, then mentor, then. You know important confidant. Best friend by the time I was in my 20s. He opened a bunch of doors that would have been otherwise completely unopened.

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  18. Trobe light, smoke, and other special effects may be used. There is adult content and graphic language. There will be no intermission.

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  19. This performance will last approximately seven years. You will experience two abortions, one out of your control, another totally your choice. Death of your best friend after a four year dance with cancer, you will hold him in your arms as he takes his last breath two months before your first child is born. The unexpected death of another beloved friend. Will stumble across him sitting there on his favorite chair in the living room. You will hold his cold dead hand in your own, one ex committing suicide with a handgun, one childbirth, a twenty four hour labor in the woods with no drugs. Parented during which your baby will fall from a shelf a few beds and other high places. One miscarriage alone in a hotel room on a very cold Christmas night.

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  20. We're going to dig into some of it. So this book is kind of written to be a performance. It says, ladies and gentlemen, please take your seats. This performance will last seven years. And actually, this piece gets read as a recording before my show, before I am seated at the piano When I tour this stage show, and it's read by Neil. And it's, you know, it's also sort of my way of bringing him with me on the tour.

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  21. Tremendous value in that. And the more you get to know people, all people, they're all carrying something. Everybody, you know, maybe not right at that moment, but there just isn't anyone out there who Isn't going through some kind of suffering or has or will.

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  22. Kind of delicious about burying your neck, burying your pain, talking about your abortion, talking about your miscarriage, talking about your grief, showing your scars that it doesn't feel narcissistic. Actually, if you do it right and you're in the right place, it actually feels like a generous act. Because you act as a reminder to the other human beings when you're getting out of that lake. That any shame they may be feeling is unwarranted, unnecessary, really. And if they're feeling discomfort and you're not made uncomfortable by their discomfort, you can offer them a gift. And being able to do that with music feels like my job right now, like the ability to get up there on stage and kind of bear my throat. As a kind of a gift

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  23. You know, in Germany, there's a lot more nudity. There's what they call Freikultur culture, the idea that we shouldn't be ashamed to be naked, which is great. I agree. And she talked about being in saunas and going to lakes where everyone has their tits out and how she feels when she emerges from the water and people see that she doesn't have any breasts and she just has these scars. And then I expected her to say something different than what she actually said. She said, I actually think it's a lot of fun. You And I was like, well, I don't know if I would call it fun. I'm not sure if she said schbas. I was like, I'm not sure that that's really the word. But there is definitely something.

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  24. Talk to me about it. And I did an interview with a German radio station this morning, and I was like, ugh god, radio station, like it's going to be very fluffy and superficial. It's the radio. Those are never good. And this German journalist sort of just talking to me about vulnerability and this shamelessness of the record and what it feels like to share this kind of material. And she told me that She found out she had breast cancer, chose to have a double mastectomy. And she talked to me about

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  25. And a few, quite a few of the interviews have been kind of unprecedented in my experience of just doing music interviews with journalists. And I found weirdly, especially European interviews, a German, Austrian, I think, Austrian journalist the other day He was talking to me about the record and he told me about the miscarriage that he and his wife had gone through and what it felt like. And I don't think he's going to include that in his piece, but he wanted to tell me.

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  26. I said to Tim the metric that I am using to measure the success of this record is not in numbers or stars granted to me granted to me by magazine critics, but it is number of human beings crying when they hear it or see me play it, which is way more satisfying way to judge the worth of a record and it's working. So I've had two kinds of interviews. I've done interviews with journalists who just keep it very light and superficial. So tell me about your record. What kind of space were you in when you wrote these songs

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  27. By a long mile I've ever made. I talk about the death of my friend, my best friend from cancer. I talk about abortion. I talk about miscarriage. I mean, it is a balls to the wall unapologetically open, vulnerable record. So you can imagine being the journalist on the other side who gets sent this album and then has to do an interview with me or gets to do an interview. And it has been a fascinating process to be the person on the other side of the phone

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  28. Yeah, well, I mean, I just mentioned that because that was the interview that happened this morning. I've been having profound interview after profound interview for three weeks since I started doing promo on this new record. And I mean, I've been putting out music for a long time and doing a lot of interviews in cycles the way you do when you put a book out. You know, you've got your media cycle. You talk about the thing you made, you go away, you make another thing, you talk about it. This record that I just made. I didn't even think about it, but going into the media part and the interview part. I mean, this is the most personal and most direct record by

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  29. Yeah, it's a very incredible book, and it's also beautifully readable, there's no woo. It's pure science, which for a skeptic. I can handle a little bit of woo sprinkled in my books, but mostly I have a woo allergy.

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  30. Taught me about this? And people know the studies are out there, the knowledge is out there, there's also knowledge that's been handed down from generation to generation to generation. You're trying to tell me that it really is just stopping now, that we're sharing information, that we're doing it right, that we're actually taking care of each other. How did this happen? And the sleep book is kind of making me feel like that. Mammals have been pretty good at this. Human mammals have been pretty good at sleep. And then everything got pretty fucked up and we're just, you know, we're just sort of like, it's like pulling up the rug and looking at the insane creepy crawlies of how we've damaged our mental health, our emotional health, our physical health. By doing something as simple as not ever sleeping right, it's insane.

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  31. It occurred to me, I was lying in bed this morning, and I was actually thinking about some stuff that was quite dark. And I was like, Human beings have been alive as a species doing this thing for so long. It's astounding to me that we on planet Earth right now are so fucked up that we haven't just been on this ever-increasing curve of more knowledge, you know, more understanding, more compassion. We haven't been on some linear march of progress as mammals. It just astounds me that I learn the simplest things and look back at the entirety of my life. And I'm like, no one told me about this. Like human beings have all of this knowledge, all of this other knowledge, and no one told me about this. And I felt the same way about a lot of reproductive female issues. I'm in the 1% of Western civilization and no one.

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  32. It's just unbelievable. And I'm not a person who reads constantly about self-improvement. I mean, I'm interested in it. I read a lot of nonfiction. But this book is just a collection of sleep studies, basically, and what this researcher has taken away as a sleep scientist from whatever, you know, 25, 30 years of doing sleep studies and also what we've learned about other mammals, how they sleep, why we sleep, what happens when we are asleep. And I mean, I find myself, I've now bought a dozen copies of this book because I want everyone I love and I care about to know That this information is available. And I mean, it feels a lot like waking no pun intended, like it feels a little bit like waking up from a bad dream where

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  33. Well, there's a book I'm absolutely obsessed with right now, so it's hard to think of any other books because I'm having a passionate affair with this one. It's called Why We Sleep. And it's by Matthew Walker I had never heard of him. I saw the book in a bookstore and just picked it up because I thought that looks interesting. And It feels again like this seismic life altering. The information that's coming at me in this book is Literally physically, technically changing my life on a day-to-day basis. And I really want you to read it

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  34. But I mean, we laugh about that, but that is Star Wars really hits people deep for a reason. The Jedi lessons, the lessons of Yoda are the lessons of Zen Buddhism, non-attachment, you know, non-attachment to the outcome, sitting with what is, knowing that the power is not coming from some outside authentication. You know, and all of these things, the lessons of Zen and the book, and Anthony, my mentor in life, they all sort of flicked me along that path.

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  35. And going like, what would Sung San the Zen monk do? And I just remember looking at the cop and saying, I'm so sorry You have to go through this. What I did was incredibly stupid. I hope that you can understand that I didn't feel that I was stealing because I just had all these other things I was purchasing. And if you need to put me in jail, you should. But I'm very sorry. And I'm not just saying, I'm sorry, don't put me in jail. I'm just saying I'm sorry that I have inconvenienced you in this way. And the cops were like. Okay, you can go. And I was like, I'm a Jedi master. I walked out of there and was like,

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  36. What I did was definitely wrong. It's not the sort of thing that is more responsible 42 year old woman I would do. I'm not that stupid anymore. And I had my sort of indignant feeling, but I also knew I was an idiot. I was like, you did something wrong. That was stupid, Amanda. Oh my God. Now here you are being interrogated by the police. And everything that I had just read in this book by this Zen Buddhist monk flooded into me. And I felt like in that moment, if I've ever had a cataclysmic human change, in that moment, I found myself acting like a different human being than the human being I had been up to that point. Because I think the human being I had been up to that point would have been defensive and explanatory and kind of freaking out and like trying to convince these and I just like I remember just sitting back

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  37. For a five piece of material. Yeah, and it was weird because I hadn't stolen an item for sale. I had just kind of taken this thing that looked like no one was using it, right?

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  38. And I left the store. The cops came and they arrested me. And there I was arrested in Australia. I was 23, 24, whatever. Like a cent.

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  39. I bought a ton of other stuff, you know, whatever, $60,000, $100 worth of other items. And then I noticed there was a display of stockings of nylons that was like half torn apart. And it kind of had this thing that I needed just hanging off it. So I took it

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  40. For shoplifting when I wasn't really shoplifting, but sort of I was. So here's the weird story. The weird story is I was street performing a living statue character. I talk about it in my TED talk called the Eight Foot Bride where I'm like, you know, dressed all in white, white gloves, white face paint, white dress, black wig. And I showed up in Australia and I had forgotten one of the tools of my trade, which was a wig cap to put on, to gather all my hair up so I could put this black wig over it. And I was like, oh, fuck, I don't have a wig cap. It's a weird thing to buy. They don't sell them in your average store, usually in Boston where I lived, I would go to this bizarre hair salon store. And I was like, oh, where am I going to get something like this? I went to Woolworth

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  41. Just having there are few moments in your life where things actually really just seismically change and all of a sudden you're a different person. And it wasn't like I got hit with a ton of bricks because I read one sentence. But the book did do a kind of a number on me. And then I was actually really fortunate. I've actually, I don't know if I've ever told this story. I got to actually... Grab all the lessons from this book, which were basically just the lessons of Zen Buddhism, non attachment, being able to just sit with what is Inability to not freak out and to just watch it pass. And I got arrested. Right as I was finishing the book.

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  42. Ah, sure. So I read Dropping ashes in the Buddha when I was 20. I think my mentor Anthony gave me his copy and he gave me a lot of books and it was one of those coincidences where who knows there was probably a pile of books. I was going on a trip to Australia as a street performer. This is before I was a musician professionally at least. I remember being in Australia, it was a very difficult trip. I wasn't making much money. And that trip actually wound up being really like catalyzing in a lot of ways that I wouldn't fully realize until later. And I remember lying on the beach, this shitty beach outside Adelaide where I was at the fringe. And reading this book And just looking around and going, oh, wait, like I get it. Do these people get it?

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