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Amber Rudd

lines on the record: 47
first: 2018-10-19
most recent: 2018-10-19
sittings or episodes: 1
sources: podcast

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“And to my children's amusement for 27, 28 years, I've been listed in the IMDb as aristocracy advisor. And then when I became Secretary for Energy, it added, trivial fact, Secretary of State.”
2018-10-19 · Political Thinking with Nick Robinson · The Amber Rudd One · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“That is true. That is true. It was a long time ago, and that label was obviously made up by them as part of their fun. But one of the producers called me up and said that he needed some people with their own outfits was the idea to lurk in the background.”
2018-10-19 · Political Thinking with Nick Robinson · The Amber Rudd One · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Wow, yes. He tweeted at me that maybe I would play a cameo in the next series if they get one. And I've said, I will if he lets me play a bodyguard, which is obviously the much more interesting role.”
2018-10-19 · Political Thinking with Nick Robinson · The Amber Rudd One · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“It's pretty brutal because it's like when you read about people in banks when they're suddenly fired. It's like your keys go, your phone goes, everything goes. It is a bit strange. And colleagues don't quite know how to engage with you. But actually, it's also a terrific sense of freedom because when you're walking around with protection officers, it's like a wall around you from your community down in Hastings, from your friends. They don't call you really because they think you're so busy or so important. And it is rather wonderful being freed up. And, you know, you can go to the Lou in a restaurant without a tall man waiting outside for you when you come out. It is a bit strange all that. It is not normal So it's rather liberating.”
2018-10-19 · Political Thinking with Nick Robinson · The Amber Rudd One · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Would like to get immigration enforcement right. I think that there is a problem there, and it needs some really careful analysis and some brutal look at who's doing what and who's got what powers where.”
2018-10-19 · Political Thinking with Nick Robinson · The Amber Rudd One · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Because I think I could, you know, there's a few things I like to do a bit better than last time. But it is a bit of a shock. Being Home Secretary, because you do deal with the public misery every day.”
2018-10-19 · Political Thinking with Nick Robinson · The Amber Rudd One · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Well, as I've said earlier, I mean, I think that all this leadership speculation is a mistake, because as I say, it doesn't change the numbers. But I am still interested in getting back into the front line. That's certainly true. But there's a lot to do on the back benches, because really at the moment, the key challenge we have as a government of delivering on Brexit in a way that supports the economy and supports our communities needs backbenchers to be organised. And I'm trying to make sure that I play a part in doing that.”
2018-10-19 · Political Thinking with Nick Robinson · The Amber Rudd One · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“I don't know what you're talking about. We all know that we've got to get on and get this deal done. And Boris isn't in government at the moment, but he's still my friend”
2018-10-19 · Political Thinking with Nick Robinson · The Amber Rudd One · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Nick, that's very naughty. We're not going to be having those discussions. I haven't had a pizza with him yet, but you never know.”
2018-10-19 · Political Thinking with Nick Robinson · The Amber Rudd One · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“I have never been his enemy. Boris and I have always been friends. There was a lot of his group were sort of indignant when I poked fun at him at one of the debates, but he never minded this.”
2018-10-19 · Political Thinking with Nick Robinson · The Amber Rudd One · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“I don't think that that is, I don't know what their plan is, obviously, because I'm not connected to that group particularly. But I think that anybody thinking about a new leader would be wise to think again because a new leader would not change the maths at all of what can and can't get through Parliament. The Prime Minister is the best chance we've got for making sure that we get a compromise deal and get it through. It's the Conservative Party. People have different views about how we leave the EU. Unfortunately, that is what is sort of dominating everybody's conversations at the moment. But anybody thinking about a change of leader is making a big mistake.”
2018-10-19 · Political Thinking with Nick Robinson · The Amber Rudd One · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Well, it depends whether they thought the pizza was good enough, really. There's always a lot of caucusing before cabinet, but I am a bit surprised, really. I don't think it's helpful. I don't think it's helpful to have too many subgroups. I think it would be much more helpful for everybody to speak their mind at Cabinet and to have less leaking at cabinet. I mean, that's part of the problem.”
2018-10-19 · Political Thinking with Nick Robinson · The Amber Rudd One · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“You pay in less. It's freedom of workers rather than freedom of movement. Quite frankly, you'll find most MPs will say, you know, how do we get through this? Now, I don't want to be irresponsible because nobody wants to do anything that is going to damage their economy. But our constituents want us to do other stuff. And, you know, I've been out of office for five or six months now, and I've been thinking about this. And, you know, we're not doing enough as a government to cut through Brexit and deliver on the other things we need to do. And our constituents are crying out for some activity beyond Brexit.”
2018-10-19 · Political Thinking with Nick Robinson · The Amber Rudd One · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Yes, something that would be taken off the shelf in that way, which a number of my colleagues are already promoting, which would be leaving the EU and yet would be doing it in a way that gives us time to think about what else we might do in a few years' time.”
2018-10-19 · Political Thinking with Nick Robinson · The Amber Rudd One · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“A softer Brexit, something personally, if we try and prime minister, couldn't get her deal through, I would like to see us consider an EEA arrangement where we went into that whole Norway environment.”
2018-10-19 · Political Thinking with Nick Robinson · The Amber Rudd One · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“This round every corner in the House of Commons, to be frank, there's MPs from all parties trying to game what happens if this happens and what happens if that happens. But I don't think that we will get no deal because it is my view that there are enough MPs who would object to no deal to assert the will of Parliament to stop it. Now, how that would happen, there were many different ways, and I'm not going to speculate on exactly which one could happen at which point, but certainly a majority of MPs would stop, in my view, no deal. And then, you're right, anything could happen. And it's for the Brexiteers who are mostly at the moment opposing the Prime Minister's proposals to think very carefully about whether if her deal is voted down, what they might get after that.”
2018-10-19 · Political Thinking with Nick Robinson · The Amber Rudd One · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Listen, I want to have a, and I'm a conservative, I want a practical outcome that's going to work for the economy and is pragmatic in terms of the red lines that the Prime Minister...”
2018-10-19 · Political Thinking with Nick Robinson · The Amber Rudd One · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Well, I just feel there's too much impressing on the Prime Minister and on government that people want to interpret the will of the people. The 52% want this. This is what this means. But actually, I think that we have to deliver for everybody. So I don't think it is justified to do what is loosely termed a hard Brexit. I think that we did vote overall the vote was to leave, but it was close. Therefore, the best way to deliver for 100% is to acknowledge that and to do it gently and carefully because 48% are worried, they're worried about the consequences to their businesses. They're worried about the consequences of freedom of movement for them and their families wanting to go and travel abroad. So I think we have to consider them very carefully and not use the sometimes rather harsh language of otherwise you're betraying the 52%.”
2018-10-19 · Political Thinking with Nick Robinson · The Amber Rudd One · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Yeah, no, listen, I think there are huge difficulties, and I'm not surprised because many of us always thought that leaving the EU was going to be really difficult, and it turns out to be really difficult. I mean, she's negotiating not only with the European Union, but also what will get through Parliament. My view is that she will get a deal. It will be late in the day. And when that comes to Parliament, MPs will have to take a very careful look at what the alternatives are. But it is difficult.”
2018-10-19 · Political Thinking with Nick Robinson · The Amber Rudd One · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“I think that civil servants like any big organisation have people who are good and people who aren't. I do think that Olly Robbins does a good job just to get that on record. But there are people within organisations and they're obviously within the Home Office as well who are not up to that mark. And ministers and secretaries of state need to be aware all the time. And the way you deal with that is by constantly challenging and probing, not blaming them, but constantly challenging them and being aware that they're not all brilliant. Some of them are, but some of them are absolutely not.”
2018-10-19 · Political Thinking with Nick Robinson · The Amber Rudd One · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“It has made me more sceptical about them, certainly. I mean, don't get me wrong, there were some fantastic people who I worked with as well. Absolutely fantastic. In 2017 was dominated for me by terrorism and the people who I worked with in counter-terrorism in the Home Office and in the security services were fantastic.”
2018-10-19 · Political Thinking with Nick Robinson · The Amber Rudd One · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Yes, yes. Rob misleading. Exactly. I mean, unfortunately, I was told certain things which turned out not to be true. And even at the time when I resigned, I was still being told it's unlikely that we have illegally deported anybody. And a week later, the new Home Secretary announced that we had 64. So, I mean, they just didn't know what the facts were. And on top of that, somebody in the department was doing a lot of hostile leaking to the Guardian, which meant that as I revealed, I didn't quite know what was going on there was this very hostile evidence circulating around the media as well.”
2018-10-19 · Political Thinking with Nick Robinson · The Amber Rudd One · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“I think that I should have done more to find out when I started really probing in this area, it became evident that they didn't know what was going on. So from that point of view, I'll let people draw their own conclusions. But people who are being critical of me, and I'm very critical of myself, would point out you should have looked into this much earlier. If you had been a really good Home Secretary, you would have said, you would have probed much earlier on what's going on in immigration enforcement and revealed those problems. That's what I wish I had done”
2018-10-19 · Political Thinking with Nick Robinson · The Amber Rudd One · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Yes, I mean, at the start of that week, I had said to my special advisors that this may or may not be my last week because I wasn't sure, I didn't know enough about what was going on in that part of my department to have confidence that when I was being told by the civil servants of my department, we've got it in hand, there's no problem, that that was correct. And the people who are managing that area of immigration enforcement were losing my confidence every day. And they lose my confidence because they didn't know what was going on. And I felt that overall I should have known what was going on and I didn't. And that emerged over that whole interview within the select committee when I was given the wrong information.”
2018-10-19 · Political Thinking with Nick Robinson · The Amber Rudd One · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“No, I think that some departments and the Home Office is famously one of them. Things happen where the Home Secretary, in my case, or the Secretary in other case, is going to have to resign in the Home Office. It used to be prisoners escaping, but of course brilliantly somebody moved them to justice. But in the Home Office, I think that if you are the Home Secretary, when it turns out that 64 people so far, they think, had been illegally deported, I think the rest is detail really. I think that that is a resigning matter. And I genuinely think that if I hadn't resigned that week, I would have resigned the next week or the week after when those numbers which hadn't yet been flushed out had come to pass.”
2018-10-19 · Political Thinking with Nick Robinson · The Amber Rudd One · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Probably all those things, but I don't think that's why it led to my fall. The speed of the rise took me by surprise as well. But these are rather extraordinary times. Few people have risen that fast, but there's a lot of new things happening over the past eight years since I've been in politics. So I think these are odd times in many different ways. And my rise was just one of them. But I wasn't the only one. You know, there's a number of us from 2010 who got into cabinet quite quickly.”
2018-10-19 · Political Thinking with Nick Robinson · The Amber Rudd One · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“I see what I've focused on as the MP for Hastings is being trying to make sure that there are opportunities for young people. And so a lot of my focus is on trying to get new businesses down there and trying to improve the infrastructure links. And I also am trying to do more to go out to reach people who are hard to reach. So there are areas where there haven't been people who've had jobs for second or third generations. And those people are not necessarily going to come to my jobs fairs or come to the activities I lay on. And so we have to do more outreach. And I think that's something that we need to do all over the country, really. There's lots of things that are laid on to help people that help most vulnerable, help the unemployed, but people don't have, we talked earlier about confidence, they have the confidence to come out to it. I think we need to do more about reaching into those communities where the entrenched difficulties are.”
2018-10-19 · Political Thinking with Nick Robinson · The Amber Rudd One · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“I think that you need to be careful how you talk to journalists a bit because if you talk very frankly about the difficulties then that's what gets written up.”
2018-10-19 · Political Thinking with Nick Robinson · The Amber Rudd One · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“There is that, but there is also extraordinary things going on in coastal towns, and actually the south coast has a lot on where we've got new galleries, we've got new investment, we've got new hotels. So a lot of that is being improved by the amount of money and investment coming in as well.”
2018-10-19 · Political Thinking with Nick Robinson · The Amber Rudd One · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Made an early mistake of talking too freely to a journalist. One, I will try not to do again. I think I called it wrong and it was, anyway, it went wrong for me. I was being too frank about some of the challenges that I was dealing with. And I regret that line of conversation because there are difficulties in Hastings, as there are in other places.”
2018-10-19 · Political Thinking with Nick Robinson · The Amber Rudd One · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“I think the most important thing is that we get the system working so that there aren't these glitches all the time. And we had it in Hastings for new people applying for it about a year ago. And people who say it works really well, they're right up to a point. And I went down to the job centre and spoke to the job coaches. And they're really pleased with it because they can look online and explain it to people. But it's the people who are most vulnerable when there's a mistake that there's not enough of a safety net. And actually, when David Gork was Secretary of State, he addressed the housing problem after people like me had complained to him by giving a 13th month. So from housing benefit was better. So what worries me are this sort of teething problem. So I hope that they will speed those up in terms of getting the glitches right.”
2018-10-19 · Political Thinking with Nick Robinson · The Amber Rudd One · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“It is an excellent way of staying in touch with what's really happening on the streets. And I am struck sometimes that my colleagues from more leafy suburbs or the rural areas don't have the same experiences that I have and that most labour MPs have about the need for benefits not only to be fair but to work efficiently. And that fairness is something that I will always want to fight for my constituents for. And one of the things about universal credit that's been hard is, I mean, we've concentrated a lot on the amounts and the money and making sure that works, but the efficiency is what is really hard because people who are on very low incomes or just low incomes don't have enough money to go from one month to the next and suddenly be told they've got to wait five weeks. And understanding that is critical to making sure that you get...”
2018-10-19 · Political Thinking with Nick Robinson · The Amber Rudd One · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“I suppose might drive particularly about political involvement was through my feminism. So within that prism, if you see inequality within gender as an important driver for your politics, obviously it doesn't matter what people are, what they've got. We just want to work on the inequality within that. There's a common sense in it. It doesn't matter where you are. Someone like Hastings is a wonderful place and it's extraordinary and it's full of colour and challenge and difficulties, but also great optimism. And I really love it. I love that mix of people and of determination and yes, of challenges as well. I think everyone say you get the constituency that suits you, and I certainly did, and I hope my constituency did too.”
2018-10-19 · Political Thinking with Nick Robinson · The Amber Rudd One · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“You met Adrian in your late 20s, have high hopes for my children and my poor mother I look back on now had to, when I introduced her to Adrian and I said he hasn't got a job, he smokes like a chimney, he's been married before. He lives with his mother and I am pregnant and we're getting married. And to her great credit, I'm not sure I would have the same calmness. She turned to me and said, how lovely, darling.”
2018-10-19 · Political Thinking with Nick Robinson · The Amber Rudd One · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“And they were very dull. They were one and three, but were all very close, and in fact, in the end, it was fine. And I was conscious that there was this kind of standing view, if there was a view at all, that I was just a creature of this privilege and I just arrived. And actually, life is not like that. Life has its own challenges and difficulties. And they make up who I am. And I wanted to share some of that so that people could see how I'd become the person I am now.”
2018-10-19 · Political Thinking with Nick Robinson · The Amber Rudd One · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Yes, it was sort of about facing up to the fact that this had been an enormously influential part of my life. And because it also felt like a failure in my life that I got divorced and I was bringing up my children on my own, you kind of, when you try and bottle it up and you try and say it's fine, it's not going to make a difference to me. I'm still going to be fine. Actually, the truth is you're not. And it makes a big difference in your life.”
2018-10-19 · Political Thinking with Nick Robinson · The Amber Rudd One · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Marvellous. It's just fantastic to think that she had to eat her words there. But I didn't do very well at school. And also I had a sort of complicated personal life. And yet I came into my own, I feel, when I was sort of in my 30s and 40s. And it just takes time. And you don't necessarily make progress in your life, either personal, professional in a straight line. I think things go down, things go up, and that's real life.”
2018-10-19 · Political Thinking with Nick Robinson · The Amber Rudd One · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Of course. I tell the story to all the girls. And my story is always I didn't do particularly well at school. And yet you can still do very well in your adult life.”
2018-10-19 · Political Thinking with Nick Robinson · The Amber Rudd One · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“And then when people stand up and they say their grace, and then you pull the chairs and they all fall down. And the joke player just can't stop laughing. And I was told never to come back again until they wanted me to come back when I became Secretary of State. And that was a delicious moment.”
2018-10-19 · Political Thinking with Nick Robinson · The Amber Rudd One · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“You're saying you didn't have it? Well, I didn't have it until I did it. And so what it is, is about taking a risk and some people run away from risk. And I can quite see why, because it can go terribly wrong. And it could have gone terribly wrong. But if you do take a risk and it goes well, then it's a pretty special feeling. And so I've always been a risk taker in my own life.”
2018-10-19 · Political Thinking with Nick Robinson · The Amber Rudd One · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“And a different politics. Indeed, yes, he was very influenced by the SDP and was for a while, he's not anymore a member of the Labour Party, and I went into conservative politics. And our other two siblings have successful careers in a different sector. Actually, my other sister is a teacher. We often call her the conscience of the family. And she will remind us when any education politics aren't going to plan. But for me, I was always interested in politics. But to be frank, I never had the confidence. I know my children look at me now and roll about laughing when I say that. But I didn't have the confidence when I was their age in my 20s. And I had a difficult personal life in my 20s and early 30s. And so I didn't discover the confidence to really say, yes, this is something I can do until much later.”
2018-10-19 · Political Thinking with Nick Robinson · The Amber Rudd One · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Yes, indeed. And so the theme really within my family was not so much about politics, but it was about current affairs. And so we were always encouraged as children to speak our mind, to discuss current affairs, and to discuss politics, but equally to discuss any other element of current affairs. So we all grew up with that around us. And it had a different impact. Roland took a different career.”
2018-10-19 · Political Thinking with Nick Robinson · The Amber Rudd One · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Well, I would say to that, you know, judge me on what I do, it doesn't matter what background you came from. I mean, I acknowledge, of course, I was incredibly privileged, mostly because of the love, it's obviously a theme, I'm afraid to say, Nick, the love in my family, but also a privilege of wealth, that's true. But I was able to, I felt, early on, form a sort of connection within my community, working with sort of local groups that took me into politics. And the most important thing that I do as a politician is think about how I can help communities, help other families down my road in Hastings, help people who might need help more than I did when I was younger.”
2018-10-19 · Political Thinking with Nick Robinson · The Amber Rudd One · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“I would. Well, I mean, I wouldn't go around telling people I love them. They might get a wrong idea. But the fact is that most politicians, and the same way was expressed about Tessa today, were in it because we really do like or love people. I mean, her particular one was working with young people. People have different ways they want to work with people. But some people like people and some people don't. But politicians really do.”
2018-10-19 · Political Thinking with Nick Robinson · The Amber Rudd One · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“But actually, they would be wrong because there was so much more there. I mean, the people who really stole the show, I thought, at the service at Southwark Cathedral were the two boys from the Brixton Soup Cafe who did so well and explained the extraordinary way they'd met Tessa and then how she'd sort of dominated their lives and given them the confidence. And actually as an MP sitting there, it was a good reminder of the work that we do in our constituency, touching individuals in the way that she clearly did. And as one of the readers said, it's about people. And actually, I would hope that people looking on who might have heard some of that would be reminded that the people who they might see as establishment, MPs like myself, are main concern, which was so extraordinary about Tessa, but all of us were reminded about, is that we're in politics because we love people.”
2018-10-19 · Political Thinking with Nick Robinson · The Amber Rudd One · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Yes, there was definitely that about it. I mean, the overall theme about it was about love that kept on coming through. But a lot of people made the point in their comments, particularly the politicians like Tony Blair made the point, is that she did represent a type of politics which we don't see enough of, which is positive”
2018-10-19 · Political Thinking with Nick Robinson · The Amber Rudd One · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Unfortunately, I was told certain things which turned out not to be true. And even at the time when I resigned, I was still being told it's unlikely that we have illegally deported anybody. And a week later, the new Home Secretary announced that we had 64. So, I mean, they just didn't know what the facts were.”
2018-10-19 · Political Thinking with Nick Robinson · The Amber Rudd One · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source