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“For that 12 year old self, they then say back, you didn't let him dim your light. You don't have to show up sad at the Oprah Show.”
2025-03-11 · The Oprah Podcast · Amy Griffin: “The Tell” | Oprah’s Book Club · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“I feel so free in this moment. I felt free since the minute I said the words to John when he came down after my session, it was the most Liberating moment of my life, Oprah. It was other than the days that you go into a hospital room and you have a baby and you come out with three people. The day that I jumped up and down at the altar Volleyball days, I was jumping up and down to marry him. It was while on one of the hardest day of my life, it was also the most liberating day of my life. And so I feel so much freedom. And I want to say that You know, the person who really cares about this freedom. The 12 year old And the real conversation, the telling that has to happen that happened along the way in the writing of this book was the telling to my 12-year-old self. He did not dim your light.”
2025-03-11 · The Oprah Podcast · Amy Griffin: “The Tell” | Oprah’s Book Club · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“I envision that people take the book and they pass it openly to a friend at a cafe, at a Starbucks. They don't have to hide it anymore. They pass the book and they say, just read this. And then I hope that this book will sit on nightstands, and then people will read it and refer back to it. My dream is that in 10 years, someone will write me and say, hey, I just have to tell you something. Book held me so much and it changed my life. They pulled one passage out of it, and then that will be reason enough for me to have written the book.”
2025-03-11 · The Oprah Podcast · Amy Griffin: “The Tell” | Oprah’s Book Club · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Well, thank you, and thank you for the work you're doing to also now pay it forward after your experience. Know that's what also in writing this book and realizing that I have so many resources and I tapped into all of them. I read every possible book. I tried every possible therapy. I was going to work my way out of this in many ways. And I think what came down to the writing of this book and the whole meaning of this book is that it's in the tell. And so resources are not, I just hope that every person who's been through something like this or has any kind of broken part of them can find one person in their life and to know where that person is in their life, but to be able to go to them and trust them with their story and have them hold it and repeat it back and have the conversations back and forth, that's the start. And that's what has to happen. And I think when I envision this book,”
2025-03-11 · The Oprah Podcast · Amy Griffin: “The Tell” | Oprah’s Book Club · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“I looked at him and I said, But guess what? Can tell them whatever you want. You can tell them all of it. You can tell them everything I told you. You can tell them how you feel about it. And you can tell them that maybe this story might help them. And he said, okay, mom. And then he said. Now I'm ready to read it because he's old enough to read the story.”
2025-03-11 · The Oprah Podcast · Amy Griffin: “The Tell” | Oprah’s Book Club · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“And I said, you know, I realized that you were seven when I started writing this book. And like any parent a few years ago, I did tell him my story. And I did it. I had consulted every parenting manual and I sat, they say, do it. We're sitting at a deli counter where you're driving or where you're doing something with them. And in my case, I told him the story when I was doing a puzzle with him. And he kind of shook his head. Okay, I got it. Do you want to ask any more questions? No. And then I left it. And two nights ago when I was back in his bedroom, I went in and I said, you know, I have to tell you something. I'm about to go on the Oprah Show and I just want to make sure that you know that has anyone asked you about my book because it's coming out. People are talking about it. And he said, yeah, a few of my friends have. And I said, well, what do you tell them? He said, I tell them it's about memories and your life.”
2025-03-11 · The Oprah Podcast · Amy Griffin: “The Tell” | Oprah’s Book Club · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Wow, that's a gift of a question. Because two nights ago, I went into our youngest bedroom and I said, Julian, I just thought about something and I thought about the idea that the word that I went into his room thinking about was consent.”
2025-03-11 · The Oprah Podcast · Amy Griffin: “The Tell” | Oprah’s Book Club · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“There are many, many moments where it was bleak and dark. And it's okay. And in a way, I would never say I missed those moments, but I'm grateful that I had them because it makes me understand myself better. And I'm so connected to myself and those memories of those days where it wasn't going so great. So it's slow. Just take it slow. And that's what I would say that to take it slow and to write it down. I have to write it down.”
2025-03-11 · The Oprah Podcast · Amy Griffin: “The Tell” | Oprah’s Book Club · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“First, I'm focused on saying I'm sorry. Thank you for being here in the front row to look me in the eye and share and tell. And I would say that I think one of the most important things is, which is in all the running. In the book, I talk about this lawyer that I had to work with, an Amarello named Duke, who kept saying, you need to slow down. You need to slow down. And it infuriated me, even though he was responding to the criminal investigation. He was saying I needed to slow down. And as mad as I was at that process, I think the idea that it is a process and that for, you know, you see me in this dress today and you see my husband and we're sitting here, we have prepared to come on the Oprah Show.”
2025-03-11 · The Oprah Podcast · Amy Griffin: “The Tell” | Oprah’s Book Club · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“But as I sat, the woman who was my practitioner when I had my MDMA session, she would say often to me, Amy, the end is glorious. There is something glorious waiting on the other side of this process you're going through. This was the glorious ending that she would have never anticipated that I was sitting here with you able to tell this story and share it with so many other people coming from the words that I put on the page just for myself. And then in realizing the deeper connection that I could have in telling one person. That's right. Another person.”
2025-03-11 · The Oprah Podcast · Amy Griffin: “The Tell” | Oprah’s Book Club · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“One just from the writing vulnerability, just purely understanding that vulnerability is actually equates to me as powerful now. I sense so much power in vulnerability and I appreciate that because it makes me so much more reachable with everyone in my life and both in my business and the founders that I get to work with and my children and my husband. And the other thing from the book piece of it, I have to say that another author friend said to me, Amy, the publishing of a book is one thing and your ego can get involved and you can care about the book coming out, but you have to remember the book is all about the people that you will meet along the way. Now, never could I have imagined”
2025-03-11 · The Oprah Podcast · Amy Griffin: “The Tell” | Oprah’s Book Club · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“My mom would either say go take a bath or could you please go for a run? Because my mom knows me so well. And so I would say that. But I would also say that when there are those everyday triggers that instead of going, why did I do that? I go tell someone and I share it. And it's not as scary once I go and I tell someone and then I can see in their eyes, you know, they can hold it. And that's how I've coped.”
2025-03-11 · The Oprah Podcast · Amy Griffin: “The Tell” | Oprah’s Book Club · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Well, practically, I listened to Fortnite by Taylor Swift on repeat a thousand times. Anything by Taylor Swift. And then I will say also, I still movement is still really important for me, but it's slow, it's gentle, it's maybe back to what that therapist, that physical therapist, said to me, why do you move so fast? And so now in this recognition, there is movement, there are lots of hot baths. I think that everything that I come up with creatively comes from being in the bathtub when the water is running and my brain is... Yes. So when the bathtub gets filled, I even open it up a little bit and let the water keep running. And it's like it opens up that valve of creativity for me.”
2025-03-11 · The Oprah Podcast · Amy Griffin: “The Tell” | Oprah’s Book Club · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“And to recognize that every time you go to tell someone, they may be in a very different place than where you are. So in the cultivating of relationships, I talk about Know, my life is this tapestry, and I have taken what was a tragedy and turned it into this tapestry of relationships for which I'm immensely grateful. But in each one of those relationships as I was building this quilt, I had to go and pull those threads and tell people what had gone on. And that was a real blessing.”
2025-03-11 · The Oprah Podcast · Amy Griffin: “The Tell” | Oprah’s Book Club · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“They never question, and I think that most important part about this book in writing this book that was when I wrote this book, I never knew that anyone would ever read this book. I never had an inkling that it would see the light of day. I wrote this book in my closet, on the bathroom floor. Myself. And I could say that in the early part of the writing as it all enfolds and with trauma like this, I'm sure you probably agree, it unfolds in layers in a way much like a book, like a chapter. And my book is not about just what happened to me. It's not the story of what actually happened to me. It's the processing of it. It's the telling of all the people in my life, which were in many ways more difficult than experiencing the trauma for myself to have to go in and be honest with each person in my life.”
2025-03-11 · The Oprah Podcast · Amy Griffin: “The Tell” | Oprah’s Book Club · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Definitely changed. I think John could tell you better, but I'm going to say, you know, I've asked the people in my life. I think that there's more stillness. I can't run anymore, which is all for the better. But there are things that I've slowed down to recognize when I do something. I can understand why I do the things I do, why I am the way that I am. And I think it gives more of me. There's more of me for my relationships and my friendships and my parenting.”
2025-03-11 · The Oprah Podcast · Amy Griffin: “The Tell” | Oprah’s Book Club · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Long no short, yes, in making decision making, and this is it's John's phrase, so I'm actually stealing it. And with us, and I write about this, there's not a long no of dating. And then, okay, I guess we should get married. It was instantaneous. And I feel like I am so grateful that in this world that I've been given John because through this relationship that we've built over so many years, truly believe that was a maybe one of the only reasons I was able to come around in this lifetime to be able to say what happened to me. And so I think instinct, though, and leaning into instinct is something that's so important, even in just finding that right partner. Thank you”
2025-03-11 · The Oprah Podcast · Amy Griffin: “The Tell” | Oprah’s Book Club · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Thank you Well, to simplify my relationship with John is to say he puts his hand on my back and he just knows there's a part about the book where I talk about long no and short yes.”
2025-03-11 · The Oprah Podcast · Amy Griffin: “The Tell” | Oprah’s Book Club · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“And what I would say about your daughters is my children are right about the same age. And I would say that the word vulnerability comes to me and comes to mind in this idea that as parents, we think we have to be this authoritative figure, but really it's breaking down those yes-sirs, yes, ma'ams, that obedience piece of parenting to just have those honest conversations with your children about vulnerability and giving them agency so that they know in those moments when something they have a flicker in their brain that's not right that they can come tell you.”
2025-03-11 · The Oprah Podcast · Amy Griffin: “The Tell” | Oprah’s Book Club · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Going to tell you something, but also I can't hold it for you, so I can't then come and mourn and grieve it with you. You have to mourn and grieve it, and then we can grieve in the relationship together. And that's part of the separation that I think that happens with the abuse. And so when I said, I don't know how I'm going to tell my parents this, this is the hardest thing I can ever tell my parents. And I thought that would be the worst day of my life. But my dad turned to me and he said after all of it just stoic like. And I think you all read it, but I love saying the line. We might have missed the first part of your life in this way, but we're not going to miss the second half.”
2025-03-11 · The Oprah Podcast · Amy Griffin: “The Tell” | Oprah’s Book Club · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“My best friend always says make sure you let everyone tell their own story, like they're part of the story, and that was one of the things I realized in going to tell my family, and it was the hardest part too. I had to say to them,”
2025-03-11 · The Oprah Podcast · Amy Griffin: “The Tell” | Oprah’s Book Club · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Absolutely did. I remember the next morning at breakfast, and I promise I'll answer your question the next morning at breakfast, my mother said to me. Have to say to you, you told me so much last night, but I don't remember any of it. And I said, but that's just it. That's the whole point of this, is that it's too hard to hold.”
2025-03-11 · The Oprah Podcast · Amy Griffin: “The Tell” | Oprah’s Book Club · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Gosh, thank you for that question. It also gives me the opportunity to be able to say to my parents that I don't think that there is anything else they could have done in this world to have changed what had happened But also, look where we are now and the hope that I can help other people in sharing my story. And so I want to make sure that they know that they are off the hook because they try to keep themselves on the hook for this.”
2025-03-11 · The Oprah Podcast · Amy Griffin: “The Tell” | Oprah’s Book Club · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Believes him. Then you believed him. And that inherently I wouldn't be loved. And to be told as a child that you will not be loved. Isn't that the basis of”
2025-03-11 · The Oprah Podcast · Amy Griffin: “The Tell” | Oprah’s Book Club · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“They didn't say why, how, why do we not know earlier? Instead, they said, we see you. They just said, we see you, we understand, we now know why you tried to be perfect. They validated me in the mind of a child. And I can see that connection now between how the adult brain and any adult can want an answer in one way.”
2025-03-11 · The Oprah Podcast · Amy Griffin: “The Tell” | Oprah’s Book Club · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“One of the things that's been really hard for me was in the telling, in this process, in the third part of the book, which is, you know, I say the second part is a crime novel that I go through and it goes up and down all over the place. But the third part's on the telling. And I think it's really interesting as an observation that in many of the adults and family members and friends, when I went to tell them, their reaction Was more of why, how in the adult brain they wanted answers because they wanted to help me. But one of the most beautiful parts of all of this realization for me goes back to my daughters in that when I did go to tell my girls.”
2025-03-11 · The Oprah Podcast · Amy Griffin: “The Tell” | Oprah’s Book Club · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Was someone I trusted inherently and someone who was also supposed to be shepherding me to become the best person that I could say yes.”
2025-03-11 · The Oprah Podcast · Amy Griffin: “The Tell” | Oprah’s Book Club · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“While Oprah days after I had my first psychedelic assisted therapy session, John was standing in the room with me. I was in the bathtub I threw a bar of soap because I was 42 and I recognized and I finally I describe it as putting a puzzle above my head. The fuses, it was like the pieces snapped together the entire, the corners, all of it came together in one place and I threw the bar of soap, hurled it across the room because I said I understand how he got to me. And he said to me he used the intrinsic part of me that I am a leader. He told me, he said, you are the leader of this school and this person, this trust, the word trust is the idea of all of this, is that I trusted this person. This wasn't a stranger.”
2025-03-11 · The Oprah Podcast · Amy Griffin: “The Tell” | Oprah’s Book Club · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“I get that from both my parents on both sides. I get that from my matriarchal grandmother who started the business, Toot and Totem. I get that from an incredible father who is fierce and a hardworking and an incredible businessman. And I get it from my mother who is also like my sister, the most loving, wonderful person on the planet.”
2025-03-11 · The Oprah Podcast · Amy Griffin: “The Tell” | Oprah’s Book Club · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Shane was not going to be a part of my story. And also Let me say too that in doing all this work, I can now go back and also look at the parts of me that I want to keep. And so I've been able to take those parts and recognize that leadership at its core for me was something that I was told I was a leader. I was groomed by this person to use something that was an intrinsic part of me to say, oh, you're a leader, you're a leader. Well, guess what? I got to go back and reflect on that and recognize who I was before all of this. And the two things that I come to are kindness and I'm a leader. And I can say that”
2025-03-11 · The Oprah Podcast · Amy Griffin: “The Tell” | Oprah’s Book Club · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“But I think that that's the realization as I look back and that's part of the process that I went through in coming to understand that comment from my sister who is The most loving human On the planet. And even then, the night, two nights before our wedding with all the emotions being high of a wedding. I recognized why I am reacting that way even then 20 something years ago, but only in the reflection of it after really diving in to go and do this processing could I realize that was shame. That was the word shame. And in many ways, if you had asked me five years ago in the life that I built around control and perfection and making everyone else happy, if I knew what the word shame was, I might have said no and turn around and walked off. Right, so I can”
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“Was a form of if you could just keep building and keep hiding. Keep making everything look perfect, then you wouldn't be found out.”
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“Over time, and I know that the subject of memory is always changing, but what I know in my memory is that there is storage and recall. And so all I can say to myself is I stored this memory, and then I could only recall it once I was in the setting in a place when it was time that my body was safe enough. There were 10 years where I really couldn't listen to myself. And I think it was another form of the running. Four kids, big life, for me, I was surviving. And that was looking perfect to the outside world.”
2025-03-11 · The Oprah Podcast · Amy Griffin: “The Tell” | Oprah’s Book Club · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Well, I think that that's also a part of the journey, and that's a lot of the writing too, in that along with the idea that I was pursuing this criminal investigation, I'm also pursuing this understanding of how could these memories be there and me not know about them. So I wanted to also perfect that. I wanted to have perfect answers. I wanted to have a perfect outcome. And so I did.”
2025-03-11 · The Oprah Podcast · Amy Griffin: “The Tell” | Oprah’s Book Club · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Well, the first time that I had a session, I was the observer. And I did not feel like I was in any danger because I already knew, I knew this, I was watching it. Instead, I had complete compassion for myself, complete love for that little girl that experienced it. It was like two sides of me met. That 12-year-old side of me met. Amy in her 40s. And it was as if we embraced And no longer did I have to keep the secret. And it was also in that session that I realized that in many ways, and this is the real crux of all of it, that the secret is the hardest part. The secrets you're told to keep, they're not yours.”
2025-03-11 · The Oprah Podcast · Amy Griffin: “The Tell” | Oprah’s Book Club · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“For eight hours. I just said it. I told her every single scenario, every single instance of the abuse, one after the other. It was linear. It was this. It was if I'm looking at this coffee cup, I would be able to tell you in 20 years exactly what the swirl of my coffee milk looked like. It was reliving the experiences as I had them But I was reliving the experiences in a way as such that I had so much compassion for myself. And I think it's so important to also say that I am not a doctor. I'm not a scientist. I have no medical background, but I am a one of one and I could tell this story a thousand times over and I remember it exactly as it happened. And I'm so grateful for that.”
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“In five minutes, I turn to the practitioner and I said Why is he Why is my teacher here And then I said, I'm going to tell you everything And that was it. That was the moment.”
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“He didn't say a word, but I could feel the connection with her, and I could feel that the connection with her was so strong and the connection with John was so strong. And the connection with John.”
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“I was lying down on a couch There was this beautiful flamenco music playing in the background. I put the eyeshades on and I surrendered.”
2025-03-11 · The Oprah Podcast · Amy Griffin: “The Tell” | Oprah’s Book Club · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“I mean, the parent child role had been reversed in that moment. And I actually had to stop and listen and say, you know, I have to go figure this out. I have to understand why she's telling me this. And it could have been the other way around where the door could have stayed slammed and I could have said, no, you're going to just obey me and do what I say. But I didn't. I didn't. I leaned in to recognize there was something within myself. I mean,”
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“You're nice. You're not real. Wanted to take that out of the book. But that's not honest And that was the catalyst if your children can't be a mirror to you, then who can? And that was a moment.”
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“And in this case, And always in the case of my girls, and they're watching going, Yeah, I know. But I have to say that that night I went into Gigi's room, and both the girls called me in. And I went with Gigi. And Gracie said, no, Gigi really needs, she needs to tell you something. And Gigi looked at me at 11 years old and she said, Mom, you're there. You're not really there. Where are you And I turned into the child, and I stormed out of the room. I slammed the door. And John said, what happened in there? And I said, well, I do everything for her. I do everything. I do all the planning. I do all the packing. I have, her life is perfect because of me.”
2025-03-11 · The Oprah Podcast · Amy Griffin: “The Tell” | Oprah’s Book Club · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Well, I was never a sit by the pool girl. Let's just sit by the pool and hang out. And I've tried to be that, but I just have never been that sit by the pool girl. But I think I realized, and I started to see these little glimmers of the idea that I had a realizations that I had built up castles around me. I'd built up these castles in my life. With this moat and this drawbridge, and there were a lot of alligators. In that moat, and I was building and building and building, and it was much easier to always say, Look at that person over there. But I think that I started to realize you've been running really hard, really fast for a long time. And you're missing something. Not listening to yourself”
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“I look at that conversation with the physical therapist and I think about the idea that she was talking about just asking why do you push herself so hard? Why now? Why this? Why that? Why can't you slow down? And I look back at it now and I realize I was finally able to hear her for her to say that to me that your body is breaking down. I've had hip surgeries, back surgeries. I mean, every possible injury you could imagine. And it was It was this idea that I then turned myself in hearing her to say, why am I not listening to the physical cues that my body is trying to tell me something?”
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“Pursuit was something that I thought that I needed because for many reasons one, I knew I had to hold this person accountable so that he couldn't hurt anyone else. But also I thought the criminal investigation and this pursuit of that would make me whole. It would take everything away from me and it would prove like I'd done in so many other areas of my life to say, I got this person. Look, I have validation right here that this person has been put away because of my efforts. And at the same time that I'm pursuing this criminal investigation and the ups and downs of all of it that I'm writing about, I realized I'm also really looking inside myself. And I'm investigating what I need from this, but I was running a parallel track at the same time, trying to do both.”
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“Yes. Well, the secret that I discovered was the idea that I had been for many years abused in a school bathroom by a teacher. I decided that, you know, if I went in and I criminally investigated this person and I did everything I could to hold this person accountable, that if I could do that, that I would show that I was right and he was wrong.”
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“That's right. Okay. That's right. And that was where I in the beginning of my life I got to be giving. I got to be loving. I got to bring my friends and say, everybody gets to get a Coke and one candy bar. And that's it. And then I went in, and the memories of childhood that I talk about in part of the book that are very difficult, that are childhood memories about deep childhood trauma that I've had to trust in myself to accept and to write about those too, along with the memories that were so beautiful. And then I went about this crazy criminal investigation, which you can read about, which talks about the secrets.”
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“From childhood. And getting all my banana seat bike and riding off to take all of my friends to the convenience store, which was close to our house, which was the convenience store that happened to be owned by my family, which was our family business and is our family business.”
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“Only as thick as your secrets. Yes. And I had so many memories of standing in line with Starbucks when I was actually in the last few years as I was writing this book and then I was in the process of doing all of this that I was standing in line looking at the cake pops and everything in the background and thinking I'm about to tell someone my story because so many times my story was told over a cup of coffee. And so I have these intense memories of gathering my thoughts as to how I was going to tell someone my story. And the idea that the secret really and the secrets are really all memories. They're memories that come from the beautiful parts of my book, which is in the writing of my childhood, which I so loved. I loved writing about doing car wheels in the field and catching ladybugs in a jar and all these memories that we all have.”
2025-03-11 · The Oprah Podcast · Amy Griffin: “The Tell” | Oprah’s Book Club · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Well, first, Oprah, I just want to say I'm so grateful. I have so much gratitude to be sitting here with you. This audience, because in its simplest form, the book is about telling. And sometimes it's the hardest thing to do. It's the hardest thing we do. But that's what we're doing right here. And that's what the book is. I think the idea that we think secrets keep us safe, but they keep us stuck. And I really came to understand that.”
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