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1. “This new generation is over. And I think it energizes people. It's part of why I like coming to things in colleges because it's what gives me hope. So thank you for everything you're doing.”

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2. “Thank you. I got to tell you, I'm so proud of what you've built here. I'm so proud of what you're doing. In this environment of partisanship and tribalism, as we just discussed, of you trying to bring different sides and exposing students, this new generation is a hope.”

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3. “I think one person is capable of making change, and we've seen it with Trump. I think one person is capable of making change for the worse. I think he has changed the Republican Party, I think he has changed the presidency, I think he has changed the country all for the worse. But I also think there's people out there who can change for the better and make things better and do it quickly. That's what a real leader can do. And I'm hoping that there's one out there. God, I just hope it's in my lifetime. And we're like, you know, well, I'm still eating solid food.”

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4. “I don't know what it's going to take, but it's got to happen at some point because we can't continue in the trend line that we are going where it's further and further polarization and tribalism and partisanship. And these culture wars, which worry me so much, you know, whether it's Charlottesville or Caepernick or the Anthem or speaking Spanish or whatever it is that he invents that day, a lot of times with flames being fanned by the Russians, you know, through social media campaigns, which is something that terrifies me, frankly, it's got to stop. I mean, it's, you know, at some point something's going to happen that brings us together because we cannot continue this way. One of the things that gives me, you know, some pause and gives me some hope.”

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5. “Zero, we're look, we are worse. John McCain was laid to arrest the country laid John McCain to rest what the week before Labor Day. And it's been a little bit over a month and we are worse today than we were then.”

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6. “And he looked down at her, you know, U.S. Senator John McCann. Sorry, mom. And so, you know, he just had this, he was just such a, you know, he was such a good friend. I think he was a good American. He was a good son. He was a good father. He was a good person. John McCain was a good person.”

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7. “Back then, was sitting, and she looked at him very properly and said, Now, Johnny We didn't teach you in our house to speak that way. I'm going to wash your mouth out with”

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8. “He had a sense of humor He could get angry. Look, he had normal human emotions, right? He could get angry, he could get sad, he could another time that I, you know, I remember we were, this was probably 2007, so it was in the run-up to 2008, and he was speaking at a banquet in Washington for the, I want to, I think it was the National Immigration Forum or some sort of immigration organization. And he gave a speech, beautiful, poignant speech about immigration. And the people that crossed the border and how they had been found dead. And he was, you know, describing them one by one. It was a very, very touching, heartbreaking speech. And at some point, he got very angry about what was happening in the immigration and not happening. And he punched the podium. And he said, damn it, this is not who we are. America, this is not who we are. He came back to the table where his mom, who was, you know, a spry 95. Yes.”

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9. “He traveled with a collection of friends that went from, you know, people that he had been imprisoned with and people that he had been in the Navy with. Some of them were poor. Some of them were Hispanic. Some of them were very wealthy to, you know, friends he had made along the way. He had an entourage of close personal friends that he fed off. He liked people. He liked town halls. He liked coming to things like the IOP and listening from students. He enjoyed human interaction.”

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10. “They are two different things in John's mind, and Mark tried to clarify that. But so we were having dinner and I made some snark comment about Sarah Paynan, and he got livid at me. I'm talking red in the face, you know, punching the table, got up to leave livid at me. Cindy and Lindsay were sitting there like statues not moving. And I kept saying to John, you've got to come down and you've got to stop this. And what are you doing? You and I love each other. What are you doing? Anyways, we had, you know, we had it out. It was a scene. It was ugly. But I can tell you he spent days after that calling me and apologizing for the outburst. But it was, it was, you know, and this is U.S. Senator John McCain. I was, you know, I was some nothing. And here he was, but I was his friend who had worked with him and with whom he had a relationship. And he treated everybody like that. When we campaigned.”

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11. “Lawyer, so you've studied this. But I spoke, you know, having had this experience with John and then I spoke to Mark Salter, his co-writer, co-author in this book.”

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12. “But you know, it was two different things. He didn't say he wished he hadn't picked Palin. He said he wished he had picked Joe Lieberman. And I've talked about advice.”

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13. “Listen, one night must have been about, I don't know, four years ago or so, we were having dinner in Washington. John McCain, Cindy, his wife, and Lindsay Graham and myself. And I made some sort of, you know, snarky Ananavaro comment about Sarah Palin. I don't even remember what it was. It wasn't anything very significant, but it was snarky. And he got incredibly angry at me because he always felt this level of, you know, John was always that navy pilot. He was always the yes ma'am, yes sir. He had this chivalry about him, this old-fashioned chivalry. And he always felt somewhat protective. He always felt a little bad that he had done this to Sarah Palin and put her in this position where she would be mocked and where she would.”

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14. “John McCain, look, he was extraordinary. He really was an extraordinary force, an extraordinary personal story. You know, this is a guy who came from a tradition of service to country and putting country first and lived his entire life that way. He volunteered to go into the service at 17, had to get his mom to sign off on it. This is a guy who was Everything we just said that Trump is or is not McCain was the opposite. He was humble. He did have the humility to recognize when he had made mistakes, whether it was Martin Luther King or whether it was, you know, something he may have said to a friend that might have offended them. Which happened.”

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15. “I remember look, I remember when Obama did the reversal of the Cuba policy and went down to Cuba. Took in that baseball game sitting next to Raul Castro eating popcorn. I was very mad. I was very angry. I thought, you know, what are we doing? Why are we giving such legitimacy to a murderous dictator? And most Republicans. I'm so old, David. I actually remember when Republicans were against communist murderers dictators. And now all of a sudden, you know, I see them the same people who were angry at Obama for sitting with Raoul Castro. I see them justifying explaining, coddling, and being an enabler.”

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16. “You have got to have thought to yourself when he said at that rally that he and Kim Jong-un fell in love. You have got to have been thinking to yourself, my God, if Barack Obama had ever said anything like that, he would have been burned in effigy.”

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17. “What the hell is he insecure about? Having been born rich? Having been born white, having been born, you know, given hundreds of millions of dollars by his daddy? I mean, what is there? You know what? It's an interesting question to be insecure about.”

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18. “So it's narcissism, it is lack of human empathy, just basic human empathy. And it's an incredible lack of humility. I mean, the guy has zero humility. I keep thinking back to Katrina. When the response by the Bush administration was abominable the first few days. But, you know, I also know that George W. Bush acknowledged it, regretted it, has spent years trying to make up for it, worked with people across the aisle, worked with people from Louisiana, worked with... Our friend Donna Brazil, for example, and called her up. And, you know, it's, it's. It's looking at the result and having the humility of saying, you know, we could have done better. And it's important because we're going to keep having hurricanes. And it's important to have learned. The fact that George W. Bush immediately replaced quote unquote brownie.”

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19. “It's a combination of three things, right? It's narcissism, absolute narcissism, everything, every story has got to be about him. It's got to be a comparison with every other president. And even if it is a complete fabricated lie.”

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20. “It certainly could be. I would love for the story coming out of Florida in, you know, second week of November to be it was the Puerto Ricans that moved to central Florida that made the difference in some of these statewide races. You know, for me, there's no doubt that the response to Puerto Rico was lesser and slower than the response to Florida and to Texas. And Puerto Rico needed it more. And we knew Puerto Rico needed it more. We knew before the hurricane that Puerto Rico needed it more. And the only reason in my head that I can come up with is that they don't have electoral votes. They don't vote for precedent. I think that if they want to be taken seriously, and I think if they want to be respected, they've got to flex that political muscle. They may not be able to do it in Puerto Rico, but they certainly can do it in Florida.”

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21. “Well, the question is whether you max that, and the question is whether they turn out. You know, I look, I think there are so many people that have a reason to be angry for the last 18 months, right? I mean, it's every Puerto Rican that has moved to the mainland, are they registering to vote? Are they going to come out? Because if they do, they can make a difference in some states and in some ways.”

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22. “You and I have friends who held their nose and voted for him, telling us, you know, under their breath that they couldn't stand him, that they were repelled by him, but they were voting for him because The Supreme Court. So here's”

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23. “Oh, I think there's a lot of Republicans who are very angry at how the process went through. I can, you know, I've looked, I've got friends who thought this was unfair, who are all ginned up against Abinati and against Feinstein. And I'm like, well, what the hell does that have to do with Christine Blassey Ford? Can we focus on the issue at hand? What does that have to do with judicial temperament? What does that have to do with judicial independence? I think there's a lot of Republicans who voted for Donald Trump precisely because he promised a conservative court. He promised that, you know, one of the smartest things Trump did in that entire election was bring out that list of pre-approved jurists.”

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24. “You know, he is so, Trump is so savvy at building a narrative and spinning it to his favor. You know, the narrative now is that the men are the victims, of course. He's saying this, you talk about saying it without prejudice. He's saying it with prejudice as somebody who's got over 15 credible accusations of sexual assault.”

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25. “We've had conversations around dinner tables and around TV panelists tables and around the water cooler. And, you know, I have friends who've got kids in fancy prep schools like the ones that Christine Ford. And Judge Kavanaugh and I attended who are telling me that those schools are spending a lot of time talking about consent and teaching the students, the young students, what consent means. So I hope that these conversations and this level of awareness that we have had is a positive thing that moves us forward.”

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26. “Quickly move on the confirmation process. None of that happened. It was for not, but what was not for naught was Christine Ford's testimony and how it opened up the floodgates and it gave women all around the country and in the world courage to come out and speak, share their pain, share the stories of shame that they had kept silenced for so many decades. It's a watershed moment. This is another Harvey Weinstein moment where women have found their voice, where women have lost, women and some men, because it's always, you know, we always call it women, but there's some men who are also victims. And I think it's going to change the country. We have had...”

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27. “Have withdrawn for his own family. This is not over if he thinks that because he's gonna be wearing a black robe and be called justice of the Supreme Court, it's over. It's not. His obituary is going to say he got confirmed by the narrowest margin in history because he was accused of sexual assault and in a confirmation process that deeply divided the country and he's going into that court with over 50% of America believing that he lied and that he's disqualified to be in that court. And so for his own sake, for his family's sake, this is going to continue chasing them in the environment that we're living now. And I thought Donald Trump should appoint another and I assume would appoint another conservative who the Democrats should have said we're going to, you know.”

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28. “Installation. Well, and when he mocked her At that rally. But this spiking of the football that has been going on since that confirmation by the president and by his allies in the Senate and outside of government has totally discounted the pain and trauma out there. This is a confirmation process that broke the country. Look, I thought Kavanaugh should have withdrawn. I thought he should have withdrawn because Donald Trump was never going to get rid of him and the Republicans were never going to give up on him. And I think that he puts into, you know, I think he's what he's doing to the integrity of the court, which is something which is an institution that had deep respect in America, which is more than you can say for Congress or the presidency right now. I think what he's doing to the integrity of the court, I think the entire message that it sent to victims of sexual assault was terrible. And for that, I thought he should have withdrawn. I think he...”

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29. “And I, you know, I'm as offended and upset at the aftermath as I am by the process itself and the sense that, you know, how she was treated at that hearing, all the comments that were made afterwards about believing her, but she was confused, poor little woman. You know, she can't keep track of who her abuser was.”

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30. “I mean, I agree with that. I totally agree with that. I think that there has been a violation of the process here. And I would like to know what exactly happened there and how it happened.”

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31. “To try to say we believe her, but we believe him. So the only way we can justify and explain. About her accusations. Really, what they did was they really didn't want to talk about it.”

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32. “In the last three weeks. And I, you know, so I initially thought, okay, this guy seems like a decent guy. He certainly seems to have the intellect. And he seemed at first blush to have the moral fitness and the judicial temperament and judicial independence. But in these last, in the last hearing, I just found that.”

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33. “And if a Democrat gets picked, Republicans should live with the fact that it's going to be somebody that's of a different ideology. And if Republicans get elected, Democrats should live with the fact that it's going to be somebody of different ideology. But there are some things that are not up to the president or should not be up to the president, that are not optional. moral fitness, judicial independence, judicial character in having the temperament necessary. And being a basic, decent person. I thought this was a particularly difficult case because these were things alleged against Judge Kavanaugh that had not happened in the last 30 months, that they had happened 35 years ago.”

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34. “Ah, awful. Look, I... I was a portive of Kavanaugh initially because the way I feel about it, a precedent gets very wide leeway in finding somebody that meets their ideology. When it comes to things like ideology, race, gender, age, all of those things are entirely up to the precedent. And elections have consequences.”

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35. “But this, you know, this process has been, I think, terrible in so many fronts, the Kavanaugh process I'm talking about. And one of the fronts that has been terrible on above and beyond the entire sexual assault thing, which has been horrific, is how it revealed the undeniable dysfunction in Congress. I can't remember a time in my recent lifetime when Colleagues who've sat together and served together on this committee for many, many years. Some of them were so openly hostile and angry.”

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36. “And that is offensive. The hypocrisy of it and the inconsistency and trying to find loopholes in order to make an argument saying, well, you know, It's one thing if it's the election year, but now I'm not only talking about an election year, I'm only talking about an election year when the party that's not the party of the president is in power in the Senate. I mean, it's getting more and more.”

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37. “And I remember calling him and asking him, I called him, I called John McCain, I called Mel Martinez Melmartinez and Lindsay voted for her. McCain did not. And so I do think, you know, I do think he's upset at the way this process has played out. Look, this process is horrible. It's become ridiculously ideological and where people have made up their minds for the most part. Even before the nominee has, you know, you get into these discussions.”

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38. “I also think he was genuinely irritated. And like I said, I haven't spoken to Lindsay, and all this is speculation. But I remember when Sonia Switzer Mayor was getting confirmed, was up for her. He voted”

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39. “He had a very specific goal in mind, which was to try to pass immigration remote form and get Trump to endorse and support an immigration deal. That frittered away, completely failed, fell on its face, and they went through another cold period. Now they're back to warming up, and I've got to wonder if there's something that he is strategically working towards. Maybe it's not firing Mueller. Maybe it's, I don't know. This is just all. Speculation. Me doing psycho babble.”

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40. “You know, I don't know what's going on with him. Part of it is, I remember, I mean, remember, we have gone through several cycles now of where Trump and Lindsay are hooked at the hip, and then when they're hating each other, you know, this is not, they go through, this is a very difficult and roller coaster emotional relationship. It's a bromance that's very weird. But I remember when he started trying to get closer.”

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41. “Is a guy who took a huge hit in South Carolina for being a proponent of immigration reform. And he knew it and he never shied away from it. He never scared He was never scared of embracing it and tackling it and pushing it. And so that's not who he is.”

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42. “And the political person, which is hard to do when that friend you like to pal around with is a U.S. senator. You know, what you just said about making a down payment on the primary for the primary 2020, it cuts against Ukraine. It's something he has not done before.”

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43. “I don't know what's going on with him. I intend to give him a call. You know, for me, I need to separate the Lindsey Graham, who I've known as my friend and who I've liked as my friend, who's fun as hell to hang out with and drink with and joke around with and paddle around with.”

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44. “I think you've seen in the last two years, certainly in the last 18 months, and I would tell you, we've definitely seen it laid bare in front of us in the last 18 days. The trumpification, further trumpification of the Republican Party. You see it in a person like Lindsey Graham, who I've known and has been a friend of mine for many, many years. The way he's talking these days and the way he's acting. You see it even in somebody who I've considered a very mature and deliberative senator like John Cornyn celebrating with champagne the confirmation of the Kavanaugh appointment. And so yeah, I think it's getting harder and harder to deny that there is a trumpification of the Republic of the Parliament.”

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45. “I always saw them as outliers. I mean, I've always seen Steve King. I was really one of the most, he doesn't even reach the level of mediocre in Congress. There's a guy who's never actually passed anything. He's, you know. He's Yahoo with badly coordinated clothes, whose only niche and whose only reason of existing is to say bad things about immigrants who's never really gotten anything much accomplished on immigration or any other issue, despite being in Congress now for double digits, a long, long time.”

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46. “It's not. And I think in Spanish we have a saying. There's no worse blind person than he who does not want to see. And I think Jeb didn't want to see it or be part of it. I think I didn't want to see it. So I think, you know, I think Jeb, when Jeb ran the base had shifted. There was a change in the Republican base and there were, what was it? 15, 16 others running many of them seasoned politicians, veteran campaigners who had been elected many, many times and run many campaigns who didn't sense it, didn't see it. And to his credit, Donald Trump somehow, you know, this billionaire brash guy who lives in a gold gilded tacky as hell, if you ask me, you know.”

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47. “But the demonization of us versus them, the demonization of immigrants, I think is one of these fabricated culture wars that Trump feeds. And it's really affecting the country. When you see a Puerto Rican woman, and that's not even an immigrant, get accosted and screamed in in Chicago for wearing a shirt with a Puerto Rican flag. Or when you see two women in Manhattan out of all places get screamed at and harassed and verbally abused because they happen to be speaking Spanish. I pity the fool that goes to Miami.”

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48. “That's one of my issues and my, you know, one of my first issues with Trump. He lost me at hella. Well, no, it wasn't Hello. He lost me at Mexicans, a rapist and criminals, and there's some good people too. I'm not Mexican, but I realized that the together and that when people think of immigrants, they mostly think of people that come south of the border who sound like me and look like me and have names like me and hair color like mine. And it pisses me off to no end.”

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49. “So badly hosed at it, you know, and so many Republicans at that point decided to turn on him and abandon him. That's where he really became the lame duck. There was no more political capital. To do something as controversial as immigration reform, they sometimes, I think, ask themselves, had we done it in reverse order?”

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50. “You know, it goes back to this thing about how everything in life is about timing. I've had conversations with former president, George W. Bush and with Carl Rove where they talk about the regret of not having done immigration reform and that because they chose to do social security reform and got”

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