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“It's not about Andrea Ledson supporters, but who are looking at what the government is proposing. And what I would say to them is look closely at this deal. Don't write it off just because it doesn't quite look as black and white as you thought it might. This is complicated. Do give it a chance. That's my message.”
2018-07-13 · Political Thinking with Nick Robinson · The Andrea Leadsom One · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Will I remain totally positive to the extent that I can influence this I will be working flat out to make sure that we do.”
2018-07-13 · Political Thinking with Nick Robinson · The Andrea Leadsom One · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Yeah, so actually, again, the original colours shows the George Cross on little shields around the top of the clock face. What I want to propose to the House Commission is that we might perhaps instead have each of the four flags of the four nations of the United Kingdom, who would be a lovely statement about all being united together in the Palace of Westminster, and apart from anything else, it would annoy Pete Wishart, who's the leader of the Scotnats. And I do like to wind him up. So I'm not sure to what extent I shall be able to hold the argument with the House Commission, but I'll definitely have a go.”
2018-07-13 · Political Thinking with Nick Robinson · The Andrea Leadsom One · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Yes, I can. I know. Well, I have to say, I was not privy to this decision, but I'm actually in some ways rather delighted. I think it'll be a fitting memorial. Anyone visiting Parliament will see that Elizabeth Tower, which hosts Big Ben, the Big Tower with the clock on, is covered in scaffolding and it's being restored. And the proposal is that it gets restored to its original Victorian colours. And what that means is that the ironwork on each of the four faces will be painted in blue and gold, which I was just reflecting was a bit of a lovely sort of reminiscence of the forty odd years of EU membership.”
2018-07-13 · Political Thinking with Nick Robinson · The Andrea Leadsom One · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Well, that again is a matter for the future. And I'm absolutely supportive of the Prime Minister's determination to get Brexit done. And actually, I would say I really admire her. I think she's been so strong. I mean, you look at some of the criticism and the flack that she's taken. She has been so strong. And people should see she is a very principled and honourable and determined person. And we're lucky to have her.”
2018-07-13 · Political Thinking with Nick Robinson · The Andrea Leadsom One · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Will I stick to the fact that at the time the country needed stability, Theresa May had the strong support of the parliamentary party? That's history. Well, who knows? We can't predict the future and we definitely can't predict the past. Can we predict your future?”
2018-07-13 · Political Thinking with Nick Robinson · The Andrea Leadsom One · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“With laughter, I mean, Boris has some great examples that he gives, and that was just one of them. But, you know, there was humour and it was a collegiate meeting and people trying to get their heads around a complicated proposal and had lots of questions that were answered.”
2018-07-13 · Political Thinking with Nick Robinson · The Andrea Leadsom One · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“I mean, cabinet, we had very frank exchange of views, people gave their thoughts and their concerns and asked lots of questions. And we came to an agreement at the end of the day.”
2018-07-13 · Political Thinking with Nick Robinson · The Andrea Leadsom One · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Well, yeah, I mean, we've had a number of meetings and they're not sort of like pretend cabinets or anything like that. So they are meetings to share views. So there weren't discussions about who's going to resign and so on.”
2018-07-13 · Political Thinking with Nick Robinson · The Andrea Leadsom One · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Well, except that that's not what's being proposed. So, you know, what is being proposed is that there will be a parliamentary vote on every single rule. Sure, forgive me. Because you've prepared a lot, you've made these.”
2018-07-13 · Political Thinking with Nick Robinson · The Andrea Leadsom One · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“I genuinely don't understand why Boris has resigned, I deeply regret it, I don't think he needed to, and I genuinely don't understand why you'd have to ask him, but I wouldn't say.”
2018-07-13 · Political Thinking with Nick Robinson · The Andrea Leadsom One · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“It's the right thing Yeah, no, I'm not really saying that. What I'm saying is that we need to make the case. We need to have the argument. And if we go even further back and we look at what the Lord President of the Council, my job, used to do in Henry VIII's days, he used to go and behead people, and we don't do that these days either. So, you know, I mean, we can all sort of, you know, make our case from history if we want to, but we're dealing with where we are today. We have one of the biggest, most complicated negotiations ever. And the interesting thing for me as well as leader of the commons is I'm looking at the legislation, but this is sort of like 4D chess. You've actually got the negotiation on the one hand and the legislation on the other hand. This isn't like a normal government session where you're just trying to get your legislation through. We've actually got to win on the negotiation and win on the legislation. And that requires very careful discussion right across the House.”
2018-07-13 · Political Thinking with Nick Robinson · The Andrea Leadsom One · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Well, it's sort of that I've not understood. Yeah. I've really genuinely not understood why people are holding this up as some sort of shock horror if there were some opposition members who were to vote for the Checkers deal. I mean, the reality is that we've all agreed on, I think, five to one to trigger Article 50. So, no, to have the referendum and then a virtual unanimity around triggering Article 50. There were very few who voted against it. So actually what we're talking about now is how we leave the EU. And I think, again, I just want to make the point that this is an intellectual discussion. This is a discussion about where we think as individuals the red lines are for those who voted to leave the EU. I know where I believe they are, and I believe that that's widely shared. But also we have to take into account what the EU's red lines are. And what I think the checkers agreement does is it manages to stay within the lines of both of those. And that's where we need to now...”
2018-07-13 · Political Thinking with Nick Robinson · The Andrea Leadsom One · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Well, you see, I take a slightly different view what I think about this Parliament, why I love doing my job in this Parliament is precisely because there isn't a majority for anything. So arguably top line, you can add up the numbers and say, well, if we've got every Conservative member plus the DUP, we can pass anything. But the reality is we know is it's never quite that simple. So what this Parliament means is we have to win on the strength of our arguments. And when you look at the EU withdrawal bill 1400 amendments put forward and that bill changed significantly throughout the passage through the Commons and the Lords, but we have passed it. It has had royal assent. And so what that required wasn't just looking at the numbers and, oh yeah, we can shove this through with these numbers, but it is actually a case of winning the argument. And that's cross-party, cross-house.”
2018-07-13 · Political Thinking with Nick Robinson · The Andrea Leadsom One · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Well, as I say, I don't want to talk about any personal experiences, but what I've taken a lot of evidence about during the process of setting up this complaints procedure is from people, quite often young women, who feel that something's happened to them, they haven't liked it, and they've not wanted to come forward because of the inevitable, absolute media circus that would ensue, the humiliation, the further humiliation to them, the fact that they'll be called a liar, that they're just trying to cause trouble and so on and so on. And those are some of the reasons very clearly given as to why people don't come forward.”
2018-07-13 · Political Thinking with Nick Robinson · The Andrea Leadsom One · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“No, not at all, no, I was absolutely not at all wanting to talk about any experiences that I may or may not have had. Even in private. What I meant is, yeah. Are you also in the”
2018-07-13 · Political Thinking with Nick Robinson · The Andrea Leadsom One · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Well, I didn't make any comment about that. I absolutely did not say anything publicly, and I don't intend to. But what I'm focused on is important.”
2018-07-13 · Political Thinking with Nick Robinson · The Andrea Leadsom One · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Well, I always make very clear to people that coming into Parliament has been a much more sort of egalitarian and less misogynistic experience than working twenty five years in the city. So I find Parliament, people have good heart. They come here to do a professional job. So it's unfair to say there's some massive, significant crisis going on. It's not true. But nevertheless, as the staff who've given evidence to the working group all the way through have made clear, the big problem is just sort of low-level bullying, low level, just not treating people with courtesy and dignity and so on. And so actually the package that we're going to be putting forward, which includes things like training, whether it's optional or indeed as a sanction, apologies, naming people for what they've done and so on. All of those things will actually make people think twice.”
2018-07-13 · Political Thinking with Nick Robinson · The Andrea Leadsom One · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Well, you know, I'm focused on getting this complaints procedure up and running. You know, there's a week to go until we announce it, and then things will change. People who have complaints can come forward in confidence. And what we tried to do is to put the victim at the heart of this all the time. And very often, the reason why people don't come forward is because particularly if you're criticising or complaining about a Member of Parliament, then you become re-victimised because people will be writing to you saying, what's wrong with you, why are you trying to damage this person or you should be grateful for his attentions or, you know, whatever it might be, people do get re-victimized. So being able to come forward in confidentiality to make their complaint, to have it heard properly, not then running the risk of having journalists camped outside their door is going to be really valuable for people.”
2018-07-13 · Political Thinking with Nick Robinson · The Andrea Leadsom One · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“No, it's a clever and pragmatic way of providing a solution that actually the standards committee came up with themselves and that we will be announcing next week.”
2018-07-13 · Political Thinking with Nick Robinson · The Andrea Leadsom One · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“We are going along with existing parliamentary processes, but what we wanted to make sure, and actually the Standards Committee have been incredibly helpful in this regard, is to make sure that the lay members, so there's 14 members in total, 7 lay members, seven MPs, we wanted to make sure that all of those members have the opportunity to have their voices heard and their say in any sanctions or indeed any appeal around the subject of disciplining members of parliament.”
2018-07-13 · Political Thinking with Nick Robinson · The Andrea Leadsom One · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Well, actually, we're changing that. So next week, next Thursday, I will be making proposals on how we think we can remedy that, including making sure that we don't have this problem of MPs marking their own homework.”
2018-07-13 · Political Thinking with Nick Robinson · The Andrea Leadsom One · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Well, I don't agree with that. No, I think actually I've been impressed by the really strong desire amongst parliamentarians to resolve this issue. There is a very clear recognition that we want to treat everybody with dignity and respect, that we want to be a role model, not just for other legislatures, but actually also for businesses. We want to try and change the culture and to make sure that everybody who comes to Parliament who works there or visits there can expect to be treated with dignity and respect.”
2018-07-13 · Political Thinking with Nick Robinson · The Andrea Leadsom One · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Yeah, and we certainly know that there are many MPs with mental health issues who either have the courage to speak out or who just suffer in silence. I mean, but right across life, all across the country, we are at last starting to take mental health very, very seriously. And there's lots of government policies looking particularly young people who are, of course, very vulnerable to Twitter trolling and body image challenges and so on.”
2018-07-13 · Political Thinking with Nick Robinson · The Andrea Leadsom One · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“That's a slight summary. In fact, the issue is that if a baby is left to cry and cry and cry, then the stress hormone cortisol gets raised in the baby's bloodstream. And if that's protracted all the time day and day out, i.e. it's a neglected child, then that cortisol level, that high level becomes rather the norm, so whereas you or I might get very excited in our hearts palpitating at an exciting game of snap, that individual with a sort of a high tolerance to their own stress level will be more attracted to higher risk taking behaviours.”
2018-07-13 · Political Thinking with Nick Robinson · The Andrea Leadsom One · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“They weren't finally told. They were finding it an inappropriate moment to do it, which I absolutely accept it was. It was really not the right moment. I was talking about a passion that I have at a time when they want to know about, you know, what are you going to do if you were leader of the party? So I totally accept it wasn't the right moment. However, I would say that the Prime Minister and others around the cabinet table are very interested in this area. And so I'm very much determined that we will take much greater steps to protect and defend early infant mental health.”
2018-07-13 · Political Thinking with Nick Robinson · The Andrea Leadsom One · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“And he can. And it can. I absolutely hold to this. The point is that when you're born, your brain isn't fully formed, and your experiences in your first two years of life literally determine the development of your brain. And so a baby who is securely attached who sort of treated in a loving way, whose principal care usually mum could be dad, could be grandparent or even nanny, but the principal carer providing that sort of loving input to the baby helps the baby's brain to develop in a healthy way such that”
2018-07-13 · Political Thinking with Nick Robinson · The Andrea Leadsom One · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Yeah, so essentially this was 95 when I had this situation. And actually my mother, who is a trauma therapist and a midwife herself, she'd got involved with a charity called the Oxford Parent Infant Project. And that was providing psychotherapeutic support for mums and their babies where there was this issue of postnatal depression or indeed other issues, you know, substance misuse and so on.”
2018-07-13 · Political Thinking with Nick Robinson · The Andrea Leadsom One · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Well for a start he's now twenty two that little baby, still my baby, but for a start I didn't really know what postnatal depression was, so I didn't know I had it at the time. All I knew was I was really, really struggling. And I always give the example of looking at my windows because we've moved out of London into a little cottage that had had some work done. And so the windows were particularly filthy. And I just have this recollection of sitting there in the snow. It was early January. So there was snow outside and I had this tiny baby who was screaming. I had been working all hours until I'd had this child and I was now on maternity leave on my own in the house looking out of these filthy windows and just thinking my life is over I couldn't even begin to think about getting up and cleaning those windows and that thought stays with me this sort of feeling of helplessness and that is in fact hormonal or it's not something that's normal and it is something that is an illness.”
2018-07-13 · Political Thinking with Nick Robinson · The Andrea Leadsom One · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Well, I think many different people of faith have different journeys to their faith and I guess mine is in part the experience of getting married, having children, but it's been a journey.”
2018-07-13 · Political Thinking with Nick Robinson · The Andrea Leadsom One · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Well, I would say that that's, well, certainly to misunderstand Christianity. I mean, Christianity is about everybody being unable to behave in as good a way as we should behave. And so all that Christianity does is it enables you to strive. I think it is a motivation to strive to be better and to do good things. And so nobody should be suspicious or afraid of a motivation to try and make the world a better place, which, as I say, is shared by Christians and non-Christians alike.”
2018-07-13 · Political Thinking with Nick Robinson · The Andrea Leadsom One · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Well, I don't know, genuinely. I mean, it's possible. And, you know, I do get an unusual amount of supportive comment from people via email and actually quite often via cards saying, carry on, keep going. And I do think that some of the people who are motivated to provide support might be people who have a faith who actually do see that your motivation might be something that is just trying to make the world a better place. And, you know, I do think there's a tendency to assume that politicians are politicians because they like being abused or because they're control freaks or whatever it is. But my experience is most politicians genuinely, for whatever party, they come into it because they want to do something for their community and their society. And that could just be because they are a good person or it could be that they have a faith and they feel that that drives them to do something for the world.”
2018-07-13 · Political Thinking with Nick Robinson · The Andrea Leadsom One · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Well, no, she's not read it, but she's seen something happening in the chamber, or she's read something in the press and she's just like, let me at them. So yeah, I have a very protective mum. And then I've got two sisters and two brothers and I've got three kids who are on their way to being adult and a very supportive husband who's always there. So that is a bit of a network of supporters. And you do need that sometimes. I mean, it can be quite brutal this whole business. But there's no doubt in the last two years I've managed to say rationalise, you know, when there's something that someone's saying and I think, well, actually they have a point, I need to do something different. And those which are just like, well, that's your problem. You just need to get over yourself.”
2018-07-13 · Political Thinking with Nick Robinson · The Andrea Leadsom One · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“So, I mean, I do have an enormous family who are very supportive, and actually they just make me laugh sometimes because I'll get a note from my mum saying, who's that beat, beat, beep, beat? Let me add them, you know, kind of thing. What”
2018-07-13 · Political Thinking with Nick Robinson · The Andrea Leadsom One · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Standing for the leadership, no question about that, and then withdrawing from the leadership. You know, all of those things, they're quite high profile and, you know, people take very strong views on it, either for or against.”
2018-07-13 · Political Thinking with Nick Robinson · The Andrea Leadsom One · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Well, standing up for the Brexit side of the argument, that was number one. I mean, that's obviously where it all started.”
2018-07-13 · Political Thinking with Nick Robinson · The Andrea Leadsom One · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Yes, I've had a lot of emails. I've had some really trolling tweets. I mean, as I say, that's a matter of course in this job anyway, regrettably. But yes, that's definitely ramped up. But that's before we had the information on the white paper. So it's a little unfair to kind of shoot first and ask questions later.”
2018-07-13 · Political Thinking with Nick Robinson · The Andrea Leadsom One · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Well, in fairness not many of them, so last night I was on a panel with Jacob Reese Mogg, and we started friends and ended friends. You know, I had a good conversation with Bill Cash this morning, and he and I are absolutely on speaking terms. So I don't think it's not across the board, but there certainly are some people who have either possibly slightly jumped to conclusions or who just feel they've just had it, it's not what they want, and therefore they're going to get very cross. And it's a great shame.”
2018-07-13 · Political Thinking with Nick Robinson · The Andrea Leadsom One · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Well, you know, I've taken my fair share of flack over the last few years, and I would say that this is not worse. So I think there's always people who are very angry about something. But what is slightly odd at the moment, I think, is the extent to which people who were previously completely agreeing on all subjects are now actually breaking ranks with each other. And particularly, you know, I would say it's odd because they don't need to. And I think I'm hoping as we're speaking now that there's a statement going on and a white paper going out that will explain exactly what the Prime Minister is trying to do. And I hope that that will calm people's fears a bit.”
2018-07-13 · Political Thinking with Nick Robinson · The Andrea Leadsom One · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“We had very frank exchange of views, people gave their thoughts and their concerns and asked lots of questions. And we came to an agreement at the end of the day.”
2018-07-13 · Political Thinking with Nick Robinson · The Andrea Leadsom One · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source