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Andrew Jarecki

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first: 2016-02-11
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“Or do you want to say this is how you say more with video? Or it's just there's a greater emphasis on explaining yourself more clearly because that positioning, this is the subject of a great book called Positioning the Battle for Your Mind, which was one of the great marketing books, it's all about like, how do you fit into the customer's brain? How do you fit into the daily lives of the people that want to use what you're offering?”
2016-02-11 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · Recode Decode: Andrew Jarecki, "The Jinx" Director · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“So that's a big thing. Now, the good news is that we launched Nomi a few days ago, and instantly there were people in Pakistan using it. That's incredible. But by the same token, it doesn't mean that because there's so much noise, you still got to find a way to get the signal through. And that means you've got to be smart about messaging. You got to be smart about saying what it does. And that's a real process. We were agonizing over, do we want to say that we're the easiest way to make a video on your phone using all your photos and video?”
2016-02-11 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · Recode Decode: Andrew Jarecki, "The Jinx" Director · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“And so, you know, when you look at the modern world, if I said, oh, well, this is great, we're going to take out ads in the paper to tell people to use Nomi, people would say, oh, okay, that's great. That guy's crazy.”
2016-02-11 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · Recode Decode: Andrew Jarecki, "The Jinx" Director · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“You will be exhausted and want to die. And he'll certainly provide the opportunity for you to do that if you choose. Because it's boring, right? Because even the most interesting, fascinating, compelling person, nobody can listen to him for three days. Nobody can listen to him for four minutes probably. And so ultimately what filmmakers are all about is taking out the bad stuff and putting all the good interesting stuff in one place. And because Nomi lets you edit as you go, because I'm just touching the images that I care about. And then when I'm done, I can eliminate segments and I can do it all very easily. It enables you to do a kind of time compression that nothing else out there does. You know, that's not something that you can do with Snapchat. It's not something you can do with Instagram.”
2016-02-11 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · Recode Decode: Andrew Jarecki, "The Jinx" Director · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“You know, I think everybody likes it. I mean, we've had it, we had a lot of enthusiasm and a lot of people downloading it from a lot of different walks of life. And I think everybody likes that. But at the same time, you don't want to get distracted by that because it is a long haul. You want to make sure that people are finding the right ways to use this tool and that it can be really fun. This morning I saw the comedian Jeff Ross was very close to Abe Vagoda. And when Abe Vagoda died, Jeff made a little know me about Abe Vagoda, which is beautiful. You know, you can pull in images from the internet and there's a picture of Jeff. And Abe Vagoda, when Jeff was a young comic and how Abe was nice to him, and it's a very emotional little bit. And it's a minute long, but it's something that I don't want to miss saying that the key to it is time compression, right? That filmmakers are all in the business of time compression. If you watch my three days of interview with Bob Durst,”
2016-02-11 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · Recode Decode: Andrew Jarecki, "The Jinx" Director · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Very quickly, and it all happens. What's your sense of how it's working? I mean, again, you've got professional investors working with you. They've been in this business before. They know how this works. They're saying, look, we want to get a big push and a big pop and climb the charts right away. Or actually, this is going to linger around for a while. We're going to have a slow build. You know, I think everybody likes it. I mean,”
2016-02-11 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · Recode Decode: Andrew Jarecki, "The Jinx" Director · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“With your boyfriend or whatever. So it enables you to talk over pictures, videos, and then if you want to add music to that, you can add music instantly. If you want to add live camera images, you can do that very quickly. And it all happens.”
2016-02-11 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · Recode Decode: Andrew Jarecki, "The Jinx" Director · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Well, we've had a lot of downloads and we've had a lot of enthusiasm. We're having fun in the office now because we're like watching people making nomies from somebody who made one in Pakistan yesterday that was kind of amazing. There's some small village in Pakistan where somebody has an iPhone and they've made this great little story about what's happening around them. Or there was a woman from the Netherlands who made something yesterday. There was a little kid who's Dutch who made this beautiful little piece where she kind of talked about herself and she made a little animated story. But essentially what's so simple about it, I think, is that when you open the app, it gives you kind of a front-facing camera and it gives you all your media right there. So you can touch and hold any image on your phone. You can touch a photograph and you can speak over it and say, this is what I did this morning. And this is what I did this afternoon. And you can show pictures of your kids from the vacation or you can show pictures of this basketball game you just left with your.”
2016-02-11 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · Recode Decode: Andrew Jarecki, "The Jinx" Director · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“That's basically what you built. I was playing with it this morning. It's quite intuitive. You build the app, you launch the app, you're in a position where because you're a famous person, you made a famous documentary, it got some attention a couple weeks ago. Now it seems like the real hard part, which is actually getting distribution, getting real attention, getting downloads. How's that going? And what are you learning about that process?”
2016-02-11 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · Recode Decode: Andrew Jarecki, "The Jinx" Director · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Storyteller and entrepreneur, it was fairly natural to try to come up with a much, much simpler way of doing that. And I remember in Movie Fone Days, we used to say, if you're trying to come up with a consumer application and you want the average person to be able to use it, it can be no more complicated than a 1950s television remote control. It's got to have an on-off. It's got to have a mute button and a channel up, channel down. And if you put more than that into it, you're probably screwed.”
2016-02-11 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · Recode Decode: Andrew Jarecki, "The Jinx" Director · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Yeah, sure. That's true. I mean, I thought that because we were starting with something that was a basic human need, we had something that was not just going to be an app. You know, you never know. But I think that people are really fundamentally driven to do sort of a handful of things. They're fundamentally driven to order food and therefore an app for ordering food is going to be good. They're fundamentally driven to see naked people. They want to do that. Therefore, they're going to find a million apps that are going to let them see naked people. They want to be able to pass notes to each other. So there's Snapchat. They want to be able to, in this case, the basic desire to share your story or to share multiple stories wasn't getting served. So we basically decided that the whole process of creating and editing a video was broken and that we needed to rethink that process from the standpoint of, you know, from my standpoint as a sort of combination.”
2016-02-11 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · Recode Decode: Andrew Jarecki, "The Jinx" Director · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“So it's one thing to go, oh, it'd be cool if there was an app like that, another thing to say, I'm going to put time and money to build this thing. What prompt are you actually going to go ahead and create an app? And by the way, we're in a world, it seems like 1999, right, where there's a lot of apps now just building an app doesn't really prove anything, right? Like you've built an app, you're now in one of millions of apps. Yeah, sure.”
2016-02-11 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · Recode Decode: Andrew Jarecki, "The Jinx" Director · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“They don't say, oh, I'm going to jump on my editing app and just quickly throw something out. It becomes a project and that idea that you need to spend time on it and that that's linked to the richer expression, the ability to edit something, the ability to put music on it, the ability to use images from your phone and use video and all that stuff. That's something that is sort of still in the province of professionals. So my feeling was that there was something in the middle.”
2016-02-11 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · Recode Decode: Andrew Jarecki, "The Jinx" Director · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Exact And so it's incredibly easy, doesn't require a lot of technical knowledge, obviously, but it also doesn't give you very much in terms of the richness of your ability to express yourself. On the other side of the spectrum, you have things like Final Cut or iMovie, which are really fundamentally pro tools. They're not things that the average person can say.”
2016-02-11 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · Recode Decode: Andrew Jarecki, "The Jinx" Director · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Yeah. Well, that's partly true. And the feeling of telling your story is a cathartic, powerful feeling, and it's something that we all want. So it struck me that in mobile, there was no easy way to do that. There are certainly ways to tell stories in mobile, but I sort of saw them breaking down into two camps. There's the sort of Snapchat world where you can sort of talk into your phone and wave it around and say, hey, I'm at the concert right now. So this is first person, present tense, and it's a very limited method, right? You get 10 seconds to say here I am. This is”
2016-02-11 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · Recode Decode: Andrew Jarecki, "The Jinx" Director · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“We have about there are actually about 20 people that are working in the company right now and it's called Nomi Know W-M-E. And this actually weirdly came out of my experience making the Jinx. So I was in the middle of shooting the Jinx and I had interviewed something like 100 people. And once you get into that mode, you're really struck by how powerfully people are driven to tell you their story. And I go home after an interview and somebody would call me at home to say, oh, there's something else I forgot to tell you. So people are so powerfully motivated to tell you things about themselves and to tell you, you know, whether it's the story of what happened to them this morning at the market or what happened.”
2016-02-11 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · Recode Decode: Andrew Jarecki, "The Jinx" Director · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Well, you know, at the moment, I mean, we'll see what happens with the Dirth story. That's certainly something that we want to continue to think about. But at the moment, I'm spending all my time on Nomi. And that's actually been really, it's been a fun break, but it's also just, it's very familiar to me because it's much more like the work we did with movie fun.”
2016-02-11 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · Recode Decode: Andrew Jarecki, "The Jinx" Director · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“We talked earlier about sort of the notion of being able to do this episodic stuff and do TV shows where you can make a six hour, five-hour movie. Do you think you'll keep working in that format or do you want to go back and make sort of more?”
2016-02-11 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · Recode Decode: Andrew Jarecki, "The Jinx" Director · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“You know, I never have had a plan. I just try to be engaged and work hard. And so I always sort of feel like I just got to be open to whatever the next thing is. And the next thing sort of defines itself, you know, if you stay engaged, you see things that you want to work on. So for me, that's always been.”
2016-02-11 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · Recode Decode: Andrew Jarecki, "The Jinx" Director · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“So, was your thought after you sell the company in 99? I'm trying to figure out the timeline, but basically, was your thought, oh, I'm going to go make a movie because I can make a movie, and then eventually I'm going to figure something else out. Obviously, since then, you've pretty much devoted yourself to filmmaking. Was that the plan”
2016-02-11 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · Recode Decode: Andrew Jarecki, "The Jinx" Director · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Direction for the family. And I said, Oh, we can do this. I'm kidding. I'm kidding. No, but I mean, we both like filmmaking. And then my brother Nick made some terrific stuff, but made the film arbitrage with Richard Gere about.”
2016-02-11 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · Recode Decode: Andrew Jarecki, "The Jinx" Director · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“No, I have two brothers who are both filmmakers and one brother who's not a filmmaker. My brother Eugene has made a lot of great documentaries and of course all that came along after I set the...”
2016-02-11 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · Recode Decode: Andrew Jarecki, "The Jinx" Director · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Yeah, and I had a film in 1988 right before I started a movie phone, I had a film at Sundance. And so I was sort of always creatively driven also. But, you know, my family was like that my dad was a very successful business person is still, and my mom was a movie critic for Time magazine, actually. And so I always had both of those things, I think, in my brain.”
2016-02-11 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · Recode Decode: Andrew Jarecki, "The Jinx" Director · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“You know, there were people that said to me, Oh, well, now you should, you know, because you can, you know, you should now go be the head of an internet company. And at the time, I had been doing that for a long time and it was extremely fun and it was a great ride, but it was time for me to do something else. And I had been a theater director at Princeton and I had done other stuff that was artistic. I've done music and things like that. And I had made some films before that that were short films. So I decided that I wanted to make a documentary.”
2016-02-11 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · Recode Decode: Andrew Jarecki, "The Jinx" Director · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“So we actually in 1999 we were approached by a whole bunch of companies at the same time. And I was talking to my friend who was an investment banker, and he said, what's going on? And I said, oh, well, you know, we heard from AOL and they want to talk about doing some kind of strategic partnership. And then we heard from Yahoo and they want to talk about doing some kind of ticketing deal. And my friend said to me, oh, you're selling your company. And I said, no, no, no, no. You didn't hear what I said. We're just having these strategic conversations. He said, listen, when a $200 billion company is talking to a little company, you selling your company. That feeling you're having right now, that's the feeling that you have when you're selling your company. And he was right. And it was sort of the appropriate time. And so in 1999, we sold the company down. $400 million.”
2016-02-11 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · Recode Decode: Andrew Jarecki, "The Jinx" Director · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Yeah, so in 88, we built it, and then by 92 we were selling tickets on the internet and we were giving Showtimes on the internet. And that was very early. That was probably a couple years, I think, before even Ticketmasters started selling tickets on the Internet. So we were the first people to build a credit card interface that was totally automated. In other words, we were sending credit card numbers over phone lines without having to have a person check your credit card and all that kind of stuff.”
2016-02-11 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · Recode Decode: Andrew Jarecki, "The Jinx" Director · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“You know, I knew something about technology, but I wasn't a coder, and I had a couple of partners, one of whom was a very good coder, and we started to develop.”
2016-02-11 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · Recode Decode: Andrew Jarecki, "The Jinx" Director · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“But anyway, we also allowed people to buy tickets so you'd get showtime, you'd be able to buy tickets, and then eventually, I think we were the first people ever to sell tickets on the internet. So in addition to being able to buy tickets.”
2016-02-11 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · Recode Decode: Andrew Jarecki, "The Jinx" Director · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Yeah, it was not mine, but he would say hello and welcome to Moviephone brought to you by that kind of thing. And so people would navigate this country, navigate this little sort of at the time what was like kind of a voicemail system, but an interactive system that would give you just the information that you needed. And frankly, it was not much more difficult because it was such a simple function than if you did it with an app, like there's a movie phone app now.”
2016-02-11 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · Recode Decode: Andrew Jarecki, "The Jinx" Director · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“You'd call buying a newspaper. You'd call 777 film on your telephone. It'd be a regular local call, and you'd put in the first three letters of the movie, or eventually you would say. Yeah, it's iconic voice.”
2016-02-11 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · Recode Decode: Andrew Jarecki, "The Jinx" Director · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Yeah, exactly. So for me, it just seemed like you had this, I don't know, five billion at that time, $10 billion now industry that couldn't figure out how to get my $10 out of my pocket because they couldn't give me the basic information in a way that I could absorb it. And it was something that people had just sort of learned to work around. We would say, hey, was it easy to go to the movies tonight when we were surveying people on movie lines? And they would say, oh, yeah, yeah, it was no problem. I just, you know, I called the theater. Well, it was busy. But, well, actually, I didn't have the phone numbers. So I had to check the newspaper, but I didn't have a newspaper. So I had to go and buy the newspaper. So that took a little while. And then what they were describing was a nightmare. And they described it as if it were fine. And I had a very similar experience recently, you know. And in the movie fun case, we had come up with a sort of telephonic way of doing it.”
2016-02-11 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · Recode Decode: Andrew Jarecki, "The Jinx" Director · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“88, yeah. And by the time I got through, maybe 89. By the time I got through to my local theater, I figured out that the movie had started like 15 minutes ago. And had I gotten through on the first call, I would have been able to go see the movie. And I had had similar problems just buying tickets to movies at the time. There was no way to buy tickets in advance. And so I had a couple hours to kill. In the old days you went.”
2016-02-11 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · Recode Decode: Andrew Jarecki, "The Jinx" Director · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“So somebody said to me the other day, Movie Phone was the first app, which you could argue that that was the case. So in like 1988 or so, I was trying to go to the movies and I couldn't get through to my local theater because there were phone lines at the theater were always busy.”
2016-02-11 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · Recode Decode: Andrew Jarecki, "The Jinx" Director · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Yeah, I didn't find that amazingly enough. I found that people were watching it and were watching it thoroughly and were asking me super detailed questions about it. So that was encouraging. I don't know, encouraging for my kids who I prefer if they don't spend their lives watching television, but it was encouraging for me to see that when you make something and you really put your soul into it, that people really do stand there and do it and watch it and experience it. If they need to rewind it, great because now everybody has DVR, whatever. So it's different. It's different than if you had done episodic television 10 years ago.”
2016-02-11 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · Recode Decode: Andrew Jarecki, "The Jinx" Director · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Which is either a compliment or it makes you nervous because you think you didn't really watch five hours of TV. You kind of watched it and you kind of went to the bathroom and you kind of had to pop more”
2016-02-11 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · Recode Decode: Andrew Jarecki, "The Jinx" Director · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“10 hours to invest in a space, but that doesn't mean that over time I won't. I absolutely will, and I don't want to leave so much time that I forget what happened in the prior episode because then it takes three times as long to watch it. That's one of the factors that affects things. When people say, Oh, I watched the Jinx this weekend, they were saying I watched five hours of television.”
2016-02-11 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · Recode Decode: Andrew Jarecki, "The Jinx" Director · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“But also, you know, for me, like one of the reasons why I haven't finished making murder yet is because, number one, I want to respect their process. I want to give them my full attention. And partly because I've been launching this application.”
2016-02-11 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · Recode Decode: Andrew Jarecki, "The Jinx" Director · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“I think it really depends on the piece. In our case, I think HBO was extraordinarily good at sort of rolling out the information about it in a way that made it the most fascinating thing it could be. And I think had it all come out at once, how would it have worked? You know, Bob Durst was arrested on the day of the sixth episode and the episodes were totally confidential. I mean, that was extraordinary also because I remember we went to the television critics association and people said, oh, well, you know, the TV critics are very tough. You're going to have to show them everything or else they're not going to write about it. And I said, all right, well, that's a shame because we're not going to show them everything. And it was too dangerous in our case to show everything up front. Bob would have left the country. And so we had reasons that weren't just related to some dramatic opportunity, but we had reasons that had to do with real life.”
2016-02-11 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · Recode Decode: Andrew Jarecki, "The Jinx" Director · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Finished it, but I'm deep into it. You haven't finished it. Don't tell me what happened. That's interesting, right? Because it is a show that came out all at once. You could literally spend the entire weekend watching it and get it done in one go. But Cereal and your show were released episodically in linear fashion. In your case, it was a big deal that was released linearly. We talked about at the beginning of this show. Have you thought about sort of if you do this again, you do something like this again, whether you want to sort of put it out in a weekly fashion or you do that Netflix model of here's the entire thing, take it when you want it in whatever chunk you want.”
2016-02-11 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · Recode Decode: Andrew Jarecki, "The Jinx" Director · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Yeah, I think that's true. And certainly you have the ability to look at the stories rather than the way you do with a narrative film where you start out often without a true story. And so you've got to make up twists and turns. In this case, you can choose stories that have the most incredible twists and turns. And you see that in now making a murderer. And I think that the crime thing has a specialness to it because you can lead the audience through this labyrinth and you can have those sort of starting and stopping points and you can have twists that are true and also you can build to in much the way that you would with a dramatic film. I think you know you start out with a story that's great because you wouldn't pick it if it weren't great. And then as you go, you can do more with it and you can consider all those little twists in the story to be dramatic turns that are pretty compelling for the audience.”
2016-02-11 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · Recode Decode: Andrew Jarecki, "The Jinx" Director · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“So, crime has always been a popular genre. True crime has been a popular genre goes in and out. Do you think that this is sort of a wave of that and people sort of move on from this? Or do you think there's something about the long-form medium and the ability to do serialized stuff that's going to make this a sort of a consistent kind of subject matter? It's also, I guess, relatively inexpensive to produce, right?”
2016-02-11 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · Recode Decode: Andrew Jarecki, "The Jinx" Director · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“It was sort of 10 pounds of sugar and a five pound bag. There was no way for us to tell the story of three murders over 30 years and this huge family story and to do it in a single film.”
2016-02-11 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · Recode Decode: Andrew Jarecki, "The Jinx" Director · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Well, I think that the emergence of this long-form television capability, the ability to have series that are not, you know, that don't need to go on for 12 years and go into syndication in order to be successful, but rather just have to have a really compelling story is critical. And then the ability to just grab that on your computer and watch it in bytes is also powerful. So when we were cutting the jinx, the original idea was that we're going to make a narrative feature, we're going to make a documentary feature about it, about Bob Dur's story, having already made a dramatic feature about it with actors. And then as we got deeper into it, my collaborators and I were just saying, look, this thing that we're doing during the day is punctuated by nighttime where we go home and we watch Breaking Bad and we go home and we watch, you know, Down Abbey or so suddenly there was an opportunity to do something that was serialized. And for us, it was critical because we just couldn't get the story.”
2016-02-11 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · Recode Decode: Andrew Jarecki, "The Jinx" Director · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Kind of got a golem thing going on there, right? You're not quite sure who he's talking. So there's going to be more of this, which is good news, I think, for fans of your work, presumably for HBO. If you work with them. And I think just broadly, it seems to me that we're in a moment of time and maybe it's random coincidence, but I remember Cereal came out, sort of broke open the podcast medium. People love that. Your show came out. People said, wow, if you like serial, this is like cereal, but it's on HBO and it's equally amazing in a different way. And that was a year ago. And then over Christmas, Netflix came out with making a murderer, which there was no buzz about in advance and caught fire. And so you have three serialized true crime stories. They're all very different, very different cases, different approaches. Do you think that's just sort of random that people have gravitated to all three of those things, or do you think there's something deeper going on there?”
2016-02-11 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · Recode Decode: Andrew Jarecki, "The Jinx" Director · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Yeah, I mean, I certainly think so. He's in there for quite a while and he goes into fairly great detail about what he did, including saying, you know, I killed them all, of course. So that to me is kind of got a golem.”
2016-02-11 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · Recode Decode: Andrew Jarecki, "The Jinx" Director · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“That Bob Durst would confess to the murderer of their dearest person in their family and that he would do it essentially on national television.”
2016-02-11 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · Recode Decode: Andrew Jarecki, "The Jinx" Director · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“I mean, I don't think I'm done with it. I don't have a concrete plan, but I do think, you know, we always film what's happening and we try to keep following stories that we're interested in. We did the same thing with capturing the Freedmen's, where that case has continued to be of interest. And, you know, once you get hooked into a story that you care about and you start to care about the people that are associated with it, you stay engaged. So I got very close to the family of the missing girl in the case of the Jinx. And they had never had any kind of justice at all. You know, they had not only been mistreated by Bob Durst, who killed their sister, daughter, this lovely girl, but they had been treated very badly by the Durst family, who had sort of done that thing where you sort of trashed the victim. And so the McCormick family had had very little relief. And suddenly this series was an opportunity for them to actually, not only to see that somebody was listening to their side of the story, but”
2016-02-11 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · Recode Decode: Andrew Jarecki, "The Jinx" Director · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“In fact, I think Ryan Gosling's portrayal of Bob was in some ways flattering to Bob, and I think Bob liked the idea that was getting a lot of press and decided to.”
2016-02-11 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · Recode Decode: Andrew Jarecki, "The Jinx" Director · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Other people you could call for that, but he knows that we tend to do investigative work and we tend to work on things for a long time. We worked on this for five years. And I had made a film prior to that called All Good Things with Ryan Goss.”
2016-02-11 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · Recode Decode: Andrew Jarecki, "The Jinx" Director · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“I mean, it was uncomfortable because there was a moment when the FBI said to me, you know, he's back in New York and he's upset with you. And, you know, I thought that was understandable, but at the same time, the way that this whole series came about was that Bob Durst called me. And so the idea that he, as a triple homicide suspect, in fact, knowing that he was a triple murderer, called a filmmaker to say, hey, I'd like to come out of the shadows here and talk a little bit. I feel misunderstood would lead you to believe that he probably knew there was a good chance that he was going to get into trouble by participating in a long, thorough documentary. And if you're interested in like a puff piece, then you don't call me.”
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