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Andrew McCabe

lines on the record: 60
first: 2021-02-04
most recent: 2021-02-04
sittings or episodes: 1
sources: podcast

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“Leading up to the sort of extremist behavior that we saw from those Trump supporters at the Capitol on January 6th. It's a very similar process.”
2021-02-04 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 428 — Andrew McCabe · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“You know, Dave, they end up there in the same way that an unemployed recent high school graduate Somali immigrant in Minneapolis ends up getting on a plane and flying to Africa and then strapping a bomb on his chest and blowing it up outside of a police station. It's the same process of radicalization. You take people who have disconnected or isolated maybe economically, maybe socially, maybe religiously, whatever it might be. And then you appeal to them with an unrelenting stream of propaganda, which we saw, for instance, nobody did that better than the Islamic State. But now we've seen it in our own domestic politics. And then they begin to follow the advice and the direction of a charismatic leader. So you have all of those elements.”
2021-02-04 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 428 — Andrew McCabe · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Yeah, I think there's, look, if you think of that group as a bunch of Trump supporters rather than thinking of them as an amalgamation of different right-leaning, potentially domestic terrorist organizations, you're going to react very differently. If your biggest concern going into that rally on the 6th was whether or not there'd be counter protesters or Antifa there, and realizing that there weren't really, you're not seeing any plans of that, you're going to go into the six with your guard down. And I think it's entirely possible that that's what happened. I don't think they took the prospect of 10,000 Trump supporters turning into a violent mob. I just don't think they took it seriously enough.”
2021-02-04 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 428 — Andrew McCabe · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“It's old bad habits are hard to break, I guess. You know, he not only didn't want intelligence about DT, didn't want to be briefed on it. On the other hand, he's embracing it and acknowledging these groups and not unsubtle ways. In ways that are significant to if you're a member of this fringe kind of fringe group of people and all of a sudden you're being acknowledged and referenced by the President of the United States, that's an incredibly inspiring, empowering thing for them. So it's really just a perfect storm of not just not taking the threat seriously, but also having the highest levels of leadership, conveying it in premature of approval or appreciative validation on those groups.”
2021-02-04 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 428 — Andrew McCabe · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Look, there's no question the president does not want to hear about domestic terrorism, and we've known that for years. At the same time, he's embraced”
2021-02-04 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 428 — Andrew McCabe · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“I think there's no question they were caught flat footed. And I think that that's, you know, I think that's on the FBI. That's on the Capitol Police. That's on DHS. Everybody who should have played a role in preparing the Capitol for that rally and the potential violence that might come from it. It's really hard to say at this point, why did people assume, why weren't people's concern and why wasn't the preparation more intensive? Why didn't they deploy the resources they would have needed to protect the capital? It's clear now that there were some intelligence indicators that folks were planning on coming and that a lot of violent chatter on social media was not a secret. It just seems like, and again, we need to like really peel this thing back with a no kidding investigation, but it seems like they just Didn't take it seriously enough.”
2021-02-04 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 428 — Andrew McCabe · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“I think there's every reason to believe that domestic terrorism is taking over a bigger and bigger and bigger section of the FBI's counterterrorist resources and attention. I think Director Ray's comments to Congress last summer where he really called it out as the most significant terrorist threat we have in the homeland was incredibly significant. Nevertheless, I think we still got caught sleeping on the 6th.”
2021-02-04 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 428 — Andrew McCabe · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“You know, it was kind of a slow burning rise, right? I think we were concerned about a peak in domestic terrorist activity around President Obama's inauguration. And then during his years in the White House, having a black president, something that we thought would really set off some white supremacist groups and KKK and kind of other right-leaning groups. And I think we did get a mild uptick in activity during that time, but nothing like what we're seeing right now.”
2021-02-04 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 428 — Andrew McCabe · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“So, domestic terrorism, or what we refer to as DT, has always been a serious threat. There have been remarkable, remarkably destructive domestic terrorist attacks like the attack on the Alfred Pimura Federal Building in Oklahoma City is the one that I guess comes to mind most. Recently, but the detectrum has always been characterized by a very broad range of groups that are focused on very specific and different ideological agendas. And so you've always had white supremacists in the KKK and what different white power groups and you have environmental extremists and you have the anti-fascist extremists. So it's always been a very diverse kind of collection of almost niche groups. And that has changed a lot in recent days and the way that we see the domestic terrorist threat today.”
2021-02-04 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 428 — Andrew McCabe · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Yeah, so I came up through the counterterrorism division on the international, the IT side, which was mostly at that point Islamic extremism. But ultimately I ran the division and so had DT and IT, all that stuff.”
2021-02-04 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 428 — Andrew McCabe · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source