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  1. “And I always found that piece super inspiring. But I don't know, it's a tough thing because, like, the itch to me is, I'd say like it was something that was far away in the distance that I could like see but didn't actually have the ability to do anything. And then when we finally started obviously really building the chain smokers and things started to work, it was like, oh my God, this is the feeling that I've been like seeking out this whole time and I've just been applying maximum pressure, grasping at different opportunities. So I think that's why you meet these young founders, not necessarily being like, I've always wanted to build this product is great mentality, of course. Someone that's like worldly, I think offers just a more interesting perspective to me about like how they go about being successful in whatever it is they're passionate about because it's not just a straight line anymore. I think there's so many things that shape great founder or shape a great company. I think it's more important to have that paranoia deep within you.”

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  2. “The world and like what my opportunity was going to be within it. And I kind of like you on some level was an out hustle, outwork mentality of things. I wouldn't say growing up, I looked at the world like I want to be a musician or I want to be a businessman. I only knew about the art world because that's my dad was in it. And so it kind of felt like that probably like growing up on a farm where you're just like, I'm going to be a farmer. It's what I know. And you go out into the world and experience different things and different opportunities. And I think the itch for me is about where your like passions lie. What do you actually like spending your time doing? And what do you find yourself being drawn to? I think New York going to school here was the perfect place for someone like my ADHD because you're getting pulled into so many different directions of events and experiences with the art world. But you also have to like survive here if you can make it here. You can make it anywhere sort of mentality.”

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  3. “I didn't grow up wanting to be a musician necessarily. I always had a really close relationship with music, but it was never like a viable career path in my mind. For me, I was always like a very visual creative type person. I was obsessed with Nike commercials back in like the 90s and 2000s. I would actually like record them on to like a VHS tape because I was so inspired by like the feeling you got after you watched them and like visually the storytelling and obviously the personas that they had involved was super cool. I was a huge MBA fan as a kid. I think most kids are and I started painting a lot when I was younger and I think it was like trying to like find a language what is that language that I can speak that conveys these feelings that I get from watching these Nike commercials as you get older my dad was an art dealer and he was fairly successful with it before he passed away and I think that when he passed away like changed a lot of how I like thought about”

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  4. “Totally. And it's not to say that those artists can't break out and do great things. Like Addison, right? I think he's doing a really great job of building a really amazing career right now.”

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  5. “Such a good point. I think even like the commonality between a Fred and a Jochi and a Charlie, these are people that have been grinding Dochi's video after she won the Grammys went viral because she was fired from her job. I'm just going to double down on music. It was some crazy thing. Charlie X has been writing songs for hit artists for like 15 years. You know what I mean? Just in the background waiting almost like fine-tuning everything, waiting for this moment. And Fred similarly is literally a musical savant, but has been writing for Ed Sheeran and huge songwriters in the background. I mean, his story is equally as impressive. And then you have that compared to like the TikTok artists that are in COVID that made a viral 15 seconds of a song label sign them. And then they're like, what did we just buy? I don't know what this is.”

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  6. “Various algorithms exactly. What does that mean for art in general when anyone can do it in successful? Like, are we in a golden age of creation or is it different? We work with art all time and play a song and it's like, oh, this is like a interpolation of a song. And you're like, I have no problem with that stuff. I think it can be really interesting. But you're also like, it's already a hit. So I think when you have an artist like Fred again or someone come along, I think it has even bigger impact than maybe in the past because that originality is so refreshing.”

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  7. “Is art in a really bad place right now, generally across the board. We have very few original movies being made of Avengers 25.”

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  8. “Yeah, thank you. And I think that's a big part of what we've been re-exploring in the last year is dialing it back to the chain smoker fans and chain smoker sound because I think going back to the AI stuff, there's so many tools out there right now, so much software, so many ideas, so many genres, so much stuff happening every day that you almost have to constrain yourself a little bit to have success. I forgot who was talking about this. The guitar has been the exact same instrument for hundreds of years, and yet people are still finding new ways to play it and create sounds and feelings from it. And I feel like we go into our studios sometimes and it's like, wow, we have 25 keyboards now. It almost hurts the experience versus helps it sometimes.”

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  9. “Yeah, and then kind of goes back and forth in this way. I think Emily wrote that song with us too, obviously an amazing songwriter. It's fun. And then suddenly you're like, there it is. I feel like when you make a song like that, you're so excited about it to play it and to be like, is this it? Is this going to resonate with everybody? But at the end of the day, I think whether or not it met the standard of success for us on a metric level, it pit the mark as far as like a chain smoker song on every level.”

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  10. “Mood or thing you're going through. So, but songs like that, it's funny because he's like, we're talking about my breakup, but then we don't want to just make it about my breakup. We want to make something that's like an experience that everyone can kind of relate to. And then he's figuring out what clever ways to fit this story into a visceral scene that relates to both of us, which is a New York spring day. And I'm trying to keep feeding the song with personal sad anecdotes.”

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  11. “Yeah, and like all those bar, fun restaurants with the sidewalk space or just overflowing into the streets. And it's like hard to find something that isn't fun. And so it was kind of like using that as a metaphor for like coming out of a relationship. But then it's like there's so many decisions and things you have to talk about. How long do we want the verses to be? Is it too wordy? Is it too dancy? Is it not dancey? That feeling of it, I wouldn't say that song was like a runaway success for us by any means. I do feel like people keep coming back to it. I feel like we have a lot of songs like that where I'll get messages throughout the entire year once a week someone will be like, dude, this song's really good. And you're like, do you just listen to this? You're my friend. I put this out nine months ago. I think that's what's cool about music is everyone has these moments with songs and I haven't still with like older songs from like the 60s or 70s or 80s to like new songs that come out last week. Where you're like, whoa, this dude's preaching. You know what I'm saying? Or it just resonates deeply in some way that it maybe didn't before just because of whatever.”

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  12. “Yeah, I mean, probably was like almost like a year to this day. That was like an interesting song, especially obviously for me. I'd just gone through like a breakup or something. And we were like pulling a lot of inspiration from that. Just generally speaking, you know, like you kind of go into the studio and you're like, what interesting concepts or things that are happening in our lives talk about or expand on or just talk about and then like a lyric or something happens. And we were like thinking about New York City, which is obviously where we started on a day like this where it's like 75 sunny out. Winter's over. You know what I mean? And it's time to like be feral and enjoy the city.”

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  13. “I would argue this is the same now. It will be worse in the future, but just lots of slop. To your point, the 15 years ago probably when Jaw is like Ableton and Loops and all these things came into existence. Now on Spotify, when we started, there was 10,000 songs uploaded every Friday. Now there's like 190,000 or something like that. Yeah, yeah. And I imagine that in a few years it'll be a million. And that will definitely have an impact about how hard it is to break through or maybe the importance of having a brand or an identity or a standing for something will mean something even more. I just watched this Brian interview with Zane Lowe and he was just talking about AI and is it scary to him and this? And he was like, no, because at the end of the day, it's still just a tool for now at least”

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  14. “Trip Adler subscribed pretty successful company, and he's starting something new. And he's like, you know, one of those founders where you're like, normally you'd be like, this is a really successful second time founder starting something in AI now. And I talked to him and he was like, yeah, it's basically like licensing copyright rights that we find a way to protect and then get people paid. And I was just like, this feels...”

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