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“You're going through this and kind of trying to work through your depression and also related to that depression obviously was what was clearly the beginning of a breakup. With your co founder and friend, what happened? How did you guys solve this?”
2019-01-21 · How I Built This with Guy Raz · Bonobos: Andy Dunn · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Yeah, I used to take a taxi up to random part of the upper west side and do work calls on the way there and then went and saw this therapist. And we were a few sessions in and she said, hey, Andy, are you in touch with anger? I said an What's anger? And that was the beginning of this realization that, hey, if you actually are angry or you have an emotion, you've got to express it because if it's sublimated, she goes, you know, sublimated anger can become depression. And so that was when I realized actually, gosh, I'm angry about a lot of these dynamics. And we've got to figure something out.”
2019-01-21 · How I Built This with Guy Raz · Bonobos: Andy Dunn · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Yeah, I didn't have the ability to do it just based on the depression. And someone said, hey, see a therapist, a loved one, and I had some shame or embarrassment around that at that time. And I finally said, all right, I got to go do it.”
2019-01-21 · How I Built This with Guy Raz · Bonobos: Andy Dunn · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“He was a little different than that in that I thought, you know, Bonobos is going to make it and it's got to make it. It was more. Should I leave or should Brian leave? Because I thought the company was going to do fine. It was just, we needed a clear CEO.”
2019-01-21 · How I Built This with Guy Raz · Bonobos: Andy Dunn · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“I cannot imagine that because you have this business that's growing and it's exciting and you can start to see where this might be headed, but the whole thing could also unravel. Like there was a you must have thought in your mind maybe this thing's just gonna crash and burn.”
2019-01-21 · How I Built This with Guy Raz · Bonobos: Andy Dunn · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“I thought we were doing a pretty good job of talking in private and then presenting a unified front, right? Yeah, kind of the way you talk about, you know. Parents and kids. Then I got a call from one of our investors, and he said, I heard that you and Brian are fighting a lot from your team. And I thought, wow, how did that get? And he said, that's really bad. And I said, you know, what do I do? And he said, you got to kind of get to the bottom of what's causing that and, you know, get to a place where. Where you can work together, and that was the beginning of a process of figuring out how do you resolve it.”
2019-01-21 · How I Built This with Guy Raz · Bonobos: Andy Dunn · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Got depressed So it turns out I have a propensity clinically for depression. And so I got to the place where I kind of had to fake it at work that I was doing okay, dragged myself out of bed and come to the office and kind of put on a show. It was super tough to navigate that because you're definitely on display in a small company.”
2019-01-21 · How I Built This with Guy Raz · Bonobos: Andy Dunn · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“How do you resolve that conflict? Because we were 50 50 partners. You know, I had the title of CEO, but Brian had a ton of business acumen. And so it really was a partnership of equals, and it becomes difficult to figure out who makes the call.”
2019-01-21 · How I Built This with Guy Raz · Bonobos: Andy Dunn · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“So, a lot of the stuff that you used to talk about or do you don't have time to do because you've got to work on this little growing baby company. And so it went from what was really fun and kind of the laissez-faire world of friendship where you talk about the things you want to talk about and do whatever's fun and support each other when things are difficult. And it actually flips that. It takes away all the fun. The support that you need, you're no longer going to get from that person. Except for very fortunate friends and business partners where can kind of all the magic can come together. And then for us, it just became talking about big decisions at the company and frequently not seeing eye to eye. And so it unwound.”
2019-01-21 · How I Built This with Guy Raz · Bonobos: Andy Dunn · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“So I remember this debate about what to do after pants. I think we'd spent At some point, maybe a year and a half just focused on pants, and we started thinking about the next product category. Brian was excited about swimsuits, and I was excited about shirts, and there was really good rationale behind both And so we were in conflict over business decisions like that. And then on a personal level, what I realized is once you get into a business partnership with a friend, the friendship gets totally sublimated to the business partnership.”
2019-01-21 · How I Built This with Guy Raz · Bonobos: Andy Dunn · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Here's the thing which is having two liters, two founders in there, I think it started to get more complicated as we grew. And that then became the challenge of who makes the decision.”
2019-01-21 · How I Built This with Guy Raz · Bonobos: Andy Dunn · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“It was awesome because Brian was able to jump in and take on all the clothing work, the sourcing, the production, the design, the merchandising, which freed me up to work on the marketing, the technology, making sure the fundraise was coming along, the limited hiring that we were doing, customer service, and we were just jamming. It was an incredible time.”
2019-01-21 · How I Built This with Guy Raz · Bonobos: Andy Dunn · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Yeah, because they're starting to be, I guess, complaints about all the packages stacked up outside the door. And the landlord met with me and started yelling at me and said I had to move out because I was violating. You can't run a business out of an apartment.”
2019-01-21 · How I Built This with Guy Raz · Bonobos: Andy Dunn · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Exactly. And then the pants had these kind of signature pocket liners in the back where you could see a different fabric, usually with a floral or a geo print. And so they attracted a little bit of attention because there was a little bit of flair and verve to it. And that also created a bit of virality. You know, the name was interesting. The story of these non-fashion guys. So we properly launched BonovosPants.com in October of 2007. And we did 10 grand that month. Then in November, we did 20. December we did 30. Came back from the holiday break in January and we did no sales for the first five days. And I thought, oh my God, this was just a fluke. And then all of a sudden, January, February, March, it went $30,000, $60, $90.”
2019-01-21 · How I Built This with Guy Raz · Bonobos: Andy Dunn · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Yeah, Urban Daddy wrote an article called Monkey Business, which is half right because Panobos are apes, not monkeys, but let's set that aside, basically telling a story of this brand with great fitting men's pants To this day, I'm not sure how they found out.”
2019-01-21 · How I Built This with Guy Raz · Bonobos: Andy Dunn · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Well, 300 wasn't enough money, and so what happened was I started to sell as many pants as I could in person to guys in New York through referrals, so there was sort of a direct sales operation with trunk shows and sales in person, and then there was attempting to get some coverage, and so what happened was our first press hit came from Urban Daddy. I remember I was sitting at the Heartland Brewery and Cafe in Union Square, and I got a call from our first employee. And he said, Andy, we're getting too many orders. Should I turn off the site?”
2019-01-21 · How I Built This with Guy Raz · Bonobos: Andy Dunn · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Guy who helped me build the website for what was then called BonobosPants.com over the summer. I can remember he drove me to the airport with two suitcases. One was personal clothes and the other one were Bonobo's pants. And I flew to Chicago for a friend's wedding. I made these bright blue corduroy pants for the wedding of a friend inspired by Cubs baseball. And I thought I'm going to sell all these. And I only sold like one pair because the color was so weird. And I then flew to New York, and I can remember kind of coming down Second Avenue and heading to an apartment that a classmate of mine had rented, and I just had agreed to live there. I'd never seen it and moved into the apartment, put a couple hundred pairs of pants up on shelves on the walls of the apartment, like in the room where I slept. And we were off to the races.”
2019-01-21 · How I Built This with Guy Raz · Bonobos: Andy Dunn · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“It wasn't the fashionistas, it wasn't the people that have a really strong understanding of, hey, here's exactly where I go for this part of my wardrobe. It was kind of the next tier of guys who wanted to look good but didn't necessarily invest the time in it or didn't know how to do it. So as New York professionals, you know, guys in advertising or startups or finance who were in Michael's network who came to this event. And I'll never forget the seven guys bought three pairs of pants, six guys bought two pairs of pants, only one guy didn't buy anything. And it was at that moment that I decided we need to build this company in New York.”
2019-01-21 · How I Built This with Guy Raz · Bonobos: Andy Dunn · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“So then I flew to New York. I flew to New York with a duffel bag full of pants and we called on a friend who had graduated before us who had a job, a guy named Michael Spirito, and we did a little trunk show at his apartment, and I think I had twenty pairs of pants in the duffel bag and set them out on a table and he invited some friends through to try on these allegedly better fitting men's pants through.”
2019-01-21 · How I Built This with Guy Raz · Bonobos: Andy Dunn · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“And Andy's not the kind of person where that would seem like something that could happen, but he said that it had validated a career move that he had made to leave venture capital and to become a teacher. And when he saw that he had that much impact on someone, it really moved him. So I had a relationship with the two professors who invested that I think was why they invested. I don't think if I had just cold pitched them. Even if I could have gotten the meeting, it necessarily would have been the same thing.”
2019-01-21 · How I Built This with Guy Raz · Bonobos: Andy Dunn · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Investors were willing to put money in. And I think that's one part of the story, but I think the other part of the story was I had had experiences with them where they knew me. With Joel, it was the Bill Tong project. With Andy, I had written him a love letter, basically. I wrote him a four-page letter when one of our classes ended. I spent two pages saying you're one of the best teachers I've ever had and here's why. And then I spent two pages saying, hey, here are the things I think you could improve from having spent a lot of time around a great teacher, which is my dad. And Andy later, years later, told me that when he got that letter, he cried.”
2019-01-21 · How I Built This with Guy Raz · Bonobos: Andy Dunn · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“I'll tread carefully here because I don't want to imply this is about Joel and Andy, but I think I've seen this experience my wife's an entrepreneur, my sister is an entrepreneur. I think there is a lot of gender issues when it comes to entrepreneurship and fundraising. We're at 9% of all VCs are women. And a lot of the consumer spending in our world is controlled by women. I think the number is somewhere between two-thirds and 80%. So we have a mismatch where men who don't understand women or how women shop are trying to decide how to make investments and only 9% of VCs are women. So it's a fundamentally misogynistically wired system. So I was fortunate that these two amazing”
2019-01-21 · How I Built This with Guy Raz · Bonobos: Andy Dunn · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Well, then I went to see the other professor from school who is an amazing business person named Andy Rackcliff, one of the co-founders of Benchmark. He also offered to invest, and he was willing to do it at the $3 million price. And I said, okay, we'll have the two of them co-invest at $3, and then we'll figure out the rest.”
2019-01-21 · How I Built This with Guy Raz · Bonobos: Andy Dunn · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Well, at the time, how much are you raising? I said $300,000. He said, well, I said, at what price? I said, we'll sell 10% of the company. And he said, okay, that's about a $3 million valuation. He said, at $3, we'll take $100,000. But if you dropped it down to $2, we'll take the whole round.”
2019-01-21 · How I Built This with Guy Raz · Bonobos: Andy Dunn · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Yeah, he was a lecturer at Stanford, and then the rest of his time he spent still doing investing. And so I kind of pitched him on the idea. He said nothing the whole meeting. He just nodded silently, and I thought, oh my God, he hates this. And then we got to the very end, you know, 40 minutes in. And he said, this reminds me of my first meeting with David Nealman from JetB Which is we're going to go into a stagnant category, not focus on customer centricity. We're going to build a much more customer-centric offering and disrupt the whole industry. He said, I'd like to invest. I couldn't believe it. Couldn't believe it”
2019-01-21 · How I Built This with Guy Raz · Bonobos: Andy Dunn · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“My first meeting was, I think, like a seven in the morning meeting with Joel Peterson. And Joel had been the guy who had presided over the Bill Tong experiment.”
2019-01-21 · How I Built This with Guy Raz · Bonobos: Andy Dunn · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“It's an awesome question because the insight of bonoboos, other than the better fitting pants part, was just the role that the internet was going to play in the future of retail. You know, retail isn't just physical products, it's a bundle of physical products and customer service. And those two things together create the experience that drives customer enthusiasm. And I believe, well, if you could make a big brand using a catalog, it stands to reason that you can make even bigger brands using the internet given the power of the web. And that's when we decided, okay, we're going to build this brand online rather than through brick and mortar. And that was the pitch, was this isn't just Ralph Lauren, this is Ralph Lauren plus Zappos.”
2019-01-21 · How I Built This with Guy Raz · Bonobos: Andy Dunn · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“I had nothing I had spent all my money traveling and on school. I think I had about $160,000 in debt. And so I had one asset, which was a 401k, which I think if you cash in early, you pay a penalty. So I did that. And I had a couple thousand dollars in the bank. So we definitely need some money. Brian had funded it with $50,000 or $60,000 of his savings, and it was time to get some outside capital.”
2019-01-21 · How I Built This with Guy Raz · Bonobos: Andy Dunn · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“So this is in, I guess, the summer of 2007 you stay in Palo Alto wanting to turn this into something bigger. How did you pitch this to, because presumably you needed money now, making clothing, manufacturing clothing, you've got to have a lot of capital. Did you have any of your own money at that point?”
2019-01-21 · How I Built This with Guy Raz · Bonobos: Andy Dunn · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“I had a summer road trip that I took with my parents after graduation, and I sat down with them and I said, hey, I have this offer from a venture capital firm, which was a firm up in Seattle called Mavron. And I said, but I don't think I'm going to take it because I'm going to sell pants on the internet. My mom looked at me and was like, oh my God, Andy. You know, you sure? And I said I was sure. And they said, okay.”
2019-01-21 · How I Built This with Guy Raz · Bonobos: Andy Dunn · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“I don't know why, but he, I think, felt like I could do it at that stage. And so once I express interest, I became the co-founder and the CEO and the deal was that if it really”
2019-01-21 · How I Built This with Guy Raz · Bonobos: Andy Dunn · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“So, I can remember sitting in class one day and on a post it note. I was sitting next to Brian. We had different ideas for, he had ideas for what to call the pants. And one of the ideas said bonobos, B-O-N-O-B-O-S. And I said, what's a bonobo? Like many people, I couldn't pronounce it. And he goes, Oh, it's a peaceful chimpanzee that makes love not war. And I was like, what? Like, how do you know about that? He's like, I don't know. He read about it somewhere. And so we kind of talked about bonobos should be the name. He was making all the decisions at this point because it was his hobby. Then there was this weird thing where he had taken a job to go into private equity. And I said, hey, what you're doing is awesome selling pants on the internet. Like maybe I can make that a thing.”
2019-01-21 · How I Built This with Guy Raz · Bonobos: Andy Dunn · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Literally, he loved Trader Joe's. He had two Trader Joe's bags, the red ones back at the time filled with pants, and he would walk around telling people about them, and they would be like dropping pants behind park cars and trees like trying them on. And people loved the pants, and at the time they called him Spaley pants, and I think he was charging a hundred bucks a pop. One day we had a pants party at our house, and I think we sold sixteen thousand dollars worth of pants that day. And that was when I kind of looked at him. I was just pitching and helping, you know, taking some pictures for the website, and we kind of looked at each other and were like, wow, this is becoming something.”
2019-01-21 · How I Built This with Guy Raz · Bonobos: Andy Dunn · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“He was a great pre business school moneymaker and saver. So he had made some money from a company he worked at. So he funded Bonobos in those early days. And then he turned the pants that he was making into sales by selling them to our classmates.”
2019-01-21 · How I Built This with Guy Raz · Bonobos: Andy Dunn · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Exactly. He thought he was going to make pants to fit, and he took a pair of pants that had been tailored the way that he liked to a pattern maker in San Francisco, that San Francisco pattern maker then made an original pattern based on what the overall fit should be with the curve waistband. He had bought all this great fabric, really cool turquoise corduroy and really fun eye-catching stuff. And then he found, I think, one of the last factories in the Bay Area actually in San Francisco, not far from where the Giants play baseball, which maybe had five or six cut and so women working there. And they started making pants.”
2019-01-21 · How I Built This with Guy Raz · Bonobos: Andy Dunn · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“So, yeah, I'll never forget this. It was spring break of our second year. I was going to Kenya and Uganda on a service learning trip. Brian was going to head down to Brazil. For a wedding, one of our classmates in... He said, What should I do? Should I go to Brazil for the sweating or should I stay here and head down to LA to buy fabric and make pants? And I was like, oh, this is a no-brainer. You got to go to the wedding in Brazil. When are you going to have a chance to do that again with a couple dozen of our classmates? And so I flew off to Kenyon, Uganda, and had an amazing trip there. And when I came back, I said, how is Brazil? And Brian said, I didn't go. And in our house, there was like rolls of fabric that Brian had bought in the Garment District of LA.”
2019-01-21 · How I Built This with Guy Raz · Bonobos: Andy Dunn · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Exactly. And what he did that most guys wouldn't do is he would take pants that fit his thighs to a tailor and have the waistband tailored in. And that was this genius insight that actually the way to do this is to make pants with a curved waistband, which would bring in Pant around to your waist in a way where the overall shape looks great. And that hadn't really been done in a meaningful way. Men's pants before.”
2019-01-21 · How I Built This with Guy Raz · Bonobos: Andy Dunn · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Yeah, he felt that if the pants fit around your thighs, they tended to be too big in the waist. And if they, and so they would cinch under your belt. And if it had the right fit in the waist, it would be too tight through the thighs. So you were either super uncomfortable or wearing something that was really boxy. Was his insight, which was brilliant”
2019-01-21 · How I Built This with Guy Raz · Bonobos: Andy Dunn · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Well, he had one weird idea, which is he was obsessed with the idea that pants don't fit, and so he did a project similar to the one I did on Bill Tong where he really dove deep on the idea he got customer feedback. He went out to a bunch of guys in our class and asked them, you know, what do they think about their pants? And everyone said the same thing. Our parents don't fit, so we wear jeans, number one, number two, we don't like shopping for them, so it's not worth the time to figure out what fits.”
2019-01-21 · How I Built This with Guy Raz · Bonobos: Andy Dunn · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“So, taking different things, I'd seen when I traveled and investing in new ideas to create those products in the U.S. And there was a South African beef jerky called Bill Tong that didn't exist in the US. I'm a vegetarian now, but I used to love this. It's very different than American beef jerky. It tastes almost like dried flame and yon with salt, pepper, and coriander. And I couldn't believe this didn't exist in such a carnivorous country like America. And we got to the end of the project, and the guy who was the professor overseeding it, a guy named Joel Peterson who would factor in meaningfully into bonobos, said, I think this is a bad idea.”
2019-01-21 · How I Built This with Guy Raz · Bonobos: Andy Dunn · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Exactly. Yeah, I kind of thought about it as an entrepreneur and residence opportunity. Amongst all these brilliant people and you can learn from them and figure out. Hey, what do they think of different ideas? And I had a bunch of dumb ideas, and most of the time people told me.”
2019-01-21 · How I Built This with Guy Raz · Bonobos: Andy Dunn · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“So, you and Brian become roommates, and you're doing your own thing. You're taking your classes. And I guess when you're a business school, presumably you're constantly bouncing ideas off other students, right? Because the idea is that they might be somebody you could build something with.”
2019-01-21 · How I Built This with Guy Raz · Bonobos: Andy Dunn · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“We became housemates actually. So once we both got into school, we had a common friend, a guy named Jeff, and I called up Jeff, who was an alum of Stanford, and I said, hey, how do I think about getting a roommate for Schwab, which is the building where? A lot of first years live, and he's like, Oh, you got to live with this guy, Brian Spailey. And so I invited them to come out one night and thought he was terrific and funny and fun and super smart. And so we became roommates.”
2019-01-21 · How I Built This with Guy Raz · Bonobos: Andy Dunn · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Just great people. Filter for empathy and self awareness, I think. And then there's no grade disclosure to employers. So they remove the competitive dynamic of how you do in your classes. And then it's smaller. It's 350, 375 people, which is, I guess, twice the Dunbar number, which is the number of people that Existed in hunter-gatherer villages and supposedly is the number of people where you can know every member of a tribe? Sure. So you kind of are friends with everyone or one hop away and you put all those ingredients and you mix them together and it's a magical place.”
2019-01-21 · How I Built This with Guy Raz · Bonobos: Andy Dunn · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Andy went to Northwestern for college, and at first he thought he wanted to be a doctor, but after studying for the MCAT, he decided to switch gears and go into business consulting and private equity, and eventually he wound up enrolling at Stanford Business School.”
2019-01-21 · How I Built This with Guy Raz · Bonobos: Andy Dunn · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“So found it funny. And that was the only time in terms of awareness that I started to think like, okay, wait a second. I'm not just among mostly white people. I'm not just, you know, I'm half white, half Indian, which is a little bit different. And I think I did a bad job of connecting deeply with the Indian side because of the dominant white culture that we have. I sort of engaged in it culturally with through my mom, but I didn't really own it until I went to India in 1997 when I was a, I think, a freshman or sophomore in college. And that really connected me. And that helped me kind of shatter the bubble that I think in a lot of ways I grew up in in the suburbs of Chicago, you know, all the way through college.”
2019-01-21 · How I Built This with Guy Raz · Bonobos: Andy Dunn · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“I didn't know I was different at all until I think it was in high school. This kid, Ed, invented a nickname for me which is Windu, which I guess stands for White Hindu. And I was totally, it became a thing and you know how teenagers are. You know, it became like a good derogatory nickname. And of course, those can catch on like wildfire. Depending on how you feel about it, it can be a little bit upsetting or meaningfully upsetting. So I came home and I told my parents expecting empathy and instead they both started laughing.”
2019-01-21 · How I Built This with Guy Raz · Bonobos: Andy Dunn · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“2017 sold to Walmart for a reported three hundred ten million dollars. The story is a little more complicated than that because as you will hear, Andy Dunn made a lot of mistakes along the way. There were times when Bonobos could have gone under, including a very messy fallout with his co-founder, but we'll get to that a little later. For now, here's what you need to know. Andy Dunn grew up in the suburbs of Chicago. His family was squarely middle class. His dad was a high school teacher, born and raised in Chicago, and his mom, an immigrant from India, was an x-ray technician. So Andy grew up in a bicultural household, even though, as he tells it, he didn't really identify that way for a long time.”
2019-01-21 · How I Built This with Guy Raz · Bonobos: Andy Dunn · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Fine. Stay optimistic. What makes you think that I was optimistic? I was defiant in the face of a terrifying reality. Companies don't die because the companies fail. They die because the entrepreneur gives up. And that was the approach. Just keep the lights on. Keep growing. That's what we did”
2019-01-21 · How I Built This with Guy Raz · Bonobos: Andy Dunn · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“You know, one of my favorite parts of traveling is getting a feel for a neighborhood, the way locals do. A few summers ago, I was in Rome and stayed in an apartment I booked on Airbnb. It was tucked in a quiet neighborhood just outside the Roman forum. Every morning I'd walk to the corner cafe, grab an espresso, and just watch the world go by outside. I even managed to chat with the owner about the neighborhood he lived in for nearly forty years. And he got me thinking about my own neighborhood. There are incredible hiking trails and great restaurants and, of course, the beach. And when I'm traveling this summer, listing my own place on Airbnb could be a really smart way to let someone else experience the area the way I do, like a local. Listing your home on Airbnb while you're traveling is a great way to make some extra money. You could put the money toward your next trip. Your home might be worth more than you think. Find out how much”
2019-01-21 · How I Built This with Guy Raz · Bonobos: Andy Dunn · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT