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“had forgotten this bit It's got to be the Bundus and a pen you wangu, it'll always make me happy. It'll always keep me optimistic. It just brims with life and humanity.”
2007-03-11 · Desert Island Discs · Andy Kershaw · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Always got one with me. I've always got one in my BBC box here because I can't think of anything more undignified than not being able to wipe your bottom. And so I want a mountain of it on the desert island, please.”
2007-03-11 · Desert Island Discs · Andy Kershaw · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Just offering them. No, well, you can keep them, thank I'd like the collected works of Rishad Kapzinski, the great Polish journalist who died earlier this year. Kapozinski got together in the body of his work history, politics, philosophy and travel.”
2007-03-11 · Desert Island Discs · Andy Kershaw · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Oh, these are a real find. About three years ago, I went to an extraordinary event called the Festival in the Desert, which takes place in the Sahara Desert about 100 miles north of Timbuktu. It started out as a gathering of the Tuaregs, the nomadic people of the Sahara Desert who come from Mali, Niger, Mauritania. They travel hundreds and thousands of miles on the camels to come to this thing. And this is a band of Malian Tuaregs, Coltina Awen. And lots and lots of bands know how to rock. Very few bands know how to roll. These boys, Tina Awen, they are the masters of what you might call roll and roll.”
2007-03-11 · Desert Island Discs · Andy Kershaw · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Well, I sort of live on one, don't I? But I do like island life, yes. And as I said to you earlier, I can, when needs be, be very self contained. So add cope.”
2007-03-11 · Desert Island Discs · Andy Kershaw · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Bread van on the M6. Juliet was about to have Sonny. We were days away and we were coming back down the M6 from the north somewhere and she said, what we're going to call this child? And I said, oh, to hell with this. It was about the hundredth time we'd had the discussion. I said, look, what we're going to do is we're going to name him after whatever's written on the next truck I overtake. Well, the first truck that we overtook was a son blessed bread van. And then it hit me in a flash. It's not Sonbless, then son. My dad had always called me Sonny Boy when I was a little lad. That became his name. Dolly was named yet unashamedly after Dolly Parton.”
2007-03-11 · Desert Island Discs · Andy Kershaw · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Oh yes, Grandparsons and Emily Lou Harris, it's another travelling song. It's such a romantic song this, and it's a song I always carry with me when I'm away, and I play it a lot, and it reminds me of Juliet, who's the great love of my life, and, you know, the lines in it's 20,000 roads, I went down, down, down, and they all led me straight back home to you, you know. It's about coming home to that security and that love from some madhouse republic or another, and in my more imaginative moments, I think I am grandparsons, and Juliet is Emily Lou Harris.”
2007-03-11 · Desert Island Discs · Andy Kershaw · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Um well, I don't spend all my time in those kind of places, and I think probably what it's done if anything it's made me even more grateful for the lucky position in which I find myself when I get back. I don't have to walk fifteen miles to get water and I've got food, and I am comfortable. And we're very, very lucky. That's what it's taught me going around and seeing the misery in which most people in the world live. Most people in the world”
2007-03-11 · Desert Island Discs · Andy Kershaw · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“No, I love life. I love people. It may be an old cliche, actually, Kirsty, but it's also one of the most. in a way reassuring things I've tended to find that those who've got least give the most Those who've got least give the most.”
2007-03-11 · Desert Island Discs · Andy Kershaw · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Jolly Mitchell we're going to use the term world music Johnny was in there years before I was but we come back to her album Blue nineteen seventy seventy one something like that and there's a song on there which for me just embodies the carefree promise of travel and it's one of those songs that's going through my head when I'm bouncing down that rubber walkway at Heathrow Airport you know off to some madhouse or hellhole or whatever carry”
2007-03-11 · Desert Island Discs · Andy Kershaw · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“after all that time with a different controller and the controller of radio one just didn't want me there anymore and within a few days I got a phone call from Roger Wright the controller of radio 3 And he said one thing to me that just convinced me in a flash that this is where I belonged. He said to me, Do you know what I like about your radio program? And I said, Roger, I can't begin to imagine. He said, what I like about your radio program is he says, I never know what's coming next He's got it he understands and I might play something from the Congo and then I might play you something from Cuba and then I might play you something from you know Britain or the United States”
2007-03-11 · Desert Island Discs · Andy Kershaw · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Well, it was a phrase that was created, really, by the record industry, to try and cope with what I was doing on Radio One. So it gradually evolved. You see the program all you get on my radio programs is what I happen to have been listening to and enjoying that week. So the program very quickly evolved into something that wasn't a rock show anymore and radio found it had a world music program by stealth without asking for.”
2007-03-11 · Desert Island Discs · Andy Kershaw · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Walters told I think it was somebody from The Guardian not long after I've joined. See you end up even talking like Walters when you'd spent that long with him. Walters said It was like somebody coming in and letting a blue bottle out of a jack. But they listen, I was so lucky they really took me under the wing. Walter's particularly, really protected me. Peel became a great friend. You know, used to go to the TT races at the Isle of Man together, and he was always like my advisor, if you like.”
2007-03-11 · Desert Island Discs · Andy Kershaw · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“What was that like? Well, it was just fantastic and hilarious. I mean, I was so lucky, Kirsty. What better induction could I have to the BBC, to public service broadcasting, to Radio One than to be put with those guys? It was like the house at Pooh Corner, somebody once said. Walters was stout and rather pompous, so he was poo, and Peel was, you know, standing in the corner of the field in the drizzle like Es saying North Thistles. And of course I was Tigger, jumping up and bounding around and trying to lick your face.”
2007-03-11 · Desert Island Discs · Andy Kershaw · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Oh God Louden I've been a big Louden fan ever since I first heard him when I was about thirteen and at whichever stage I've been in my life Louden has always had the appropriate song but he's got one which has always stuck with me and it's almost like my mission statement people will know when they see this show what kind of a guy I am they'll understand just what I stand for and what I just can't stand one man guy”
2007-03-11 · Desert Island Discs · Andy Kershaw · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Yes, and I'd want to grab the steering wheel, but, you know, Mean Campbell at the time was doing a very good job as foreign affairs spokesman. There was no need for me. And I wanted to go to the Isle of Man in any case.”
2007-03-11 · Desert Island Discs · Andy Kershaw · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“No, no I'd have got some safe seat in Cornwall, probably. I'd have spent all my life on the train going backwards and forwards to London, and when I was back in Cornwall, I'd be dealing with people who hadn't had their bins emptied. Whereas, of course, I'd really want to be dealing with affairs of state.”
2007-03-11 · Desert Island Discs · Andy Kershaw · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Oh no, I mean, I grew up in a Labour family. My mother was a Labour Councillor. We came from very left-wing background, but in 1995, as soon as Blair took over the Labour Party, I realized he was a wrong. And I realised increasingly that the more left-wing party was the Liberal Democrats. So the Lib Dems asked me to be an MP.”
2007-03-11 · Desert Island Discs · Andy Kershaw · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Injustice makes me angry, still can do. We'll try and do something about it, I suppose, is what you're trying to do in your own little way. You know, it makes me angry now, actually.”
2007-03-11 · Desert Island Discs · Andy Kershaw · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Oh, I think in that sense the radio one thing was a bit of a millstone round your neck, in that I think there was always a slight assumption, if you like, that if you were a radio one DJ, then you couldn't be a proper journalist as well. I think I did have to fight that a little all the way through. You know, well, we won't use Andy because he's really a DJ, not a journalist. Where worthy in Rwanda?”
2007-03-11 · Desert Island Discs · Andy Kershaw · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“I went out to nauseeness again, but when I got there, I realized that this was a major story that this little fellow, he told me, I met him on the first day, he was in hiding. And I said to him, look, if the opportunity ever presented itself, would you ever stand for president of this country? And he said, no, no, no. Nine months later I was standing on the steps of the presidential palace underneath him whilst he was inaugurated.”
2007-03-11 · Desert Island Discs · Andy Kershaw · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“I was getting bored, frankly, at Radio one, and I wanted to stretch myself, and so the old hankerings for foreign journalism came back, and I thought I'm going to take myself off on an adventure. Then I read Graham Green's the comedians about Hetty under Papadoch de Vallier in the mid sixties, which wasn't so much a novel, it was more a piece of journalism. And then I read a piece in National Geographic about this very, very brave liberation theologian left wing Catholic priest who was working in the slums of Porter Prince called Jean Batron Aristide, and I thought this guy sounds remarkable, and so I took myself off.”
2007-03-11 · Desert Island Discs · Andy Kershaw · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“I suppose so, yeah. What was it? Stuff between a rock and a hard place, and I'm down on my luck. It's nauseiness, actually, Kirsty. That's all it is. It's curiosity. It's sheer nosiness. And it's also at times, it's a huge thrill to be, not necessarily something as extreme as Rwanda, but sometimes it's just a huge thrill to be a witness to history.”
2007-03-11 · Desert Island Discs · Andy Kershaw · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Sunday morning thinking I was about to set off and walk through another mine, spend a day walking through more mine fields, literally. And they said, oh, no, no. We take Sundays off. I said, but what do you do? They said we sit around in the garden and drink gin and tonic. Oh, well, that sounds all right. And they had one of those CD wallets, you know, like a ghetto blaster set up in the garden. So I'm sitting there leaning back against these unexploded rockets surrounded by you Nita, listening to Warren Zevon in the middle of a civil war singing lawyers guns and money. Send lawyers, guns and money.”
2007-03-11 · Desert Island Discs · Andy Kershaw · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“The Hunter S. Thompson of Rock and Roll Warrants Evil Well, this one for me it's a song that's never far from my mind in some of the places I find myself, and I went down to the Angolan Civil War in nineteen ninety six. I was with the demining team in a town called Quito, and the front line had been the main street through town, and everything was like gnarled by flying metal, and there was so much ordnance left lying all over the town, unexploded mortars and rockets, and God knows what.”
2007-03-11 · Desert Island Discs · Andy Kershaw · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Is that important? It meant an awful lot, actually. It did. I must say, I'd always felt like I'd left that gap, that hole behind me, and I felt like I'd let down my mum and dad. And although I'd done quite well out of, because it was a launching pad into all this. When the university decided they were giving me that, I was absolutely thrilled a bit, and to reward them for that, I brought the who back last year to do live at Leeds again. And it's in the same hall where they recorded the 1970 classic.”
2007-03-11 · Desert Island Discs · Andy Kershaw · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Used to hold me in from time to time. But anyway, they forgave me, and last year Leeds gave me an honorary doctorate. Because you know,”
2007-03-11 · Desert Island Discs · Andy Kershaw · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Yeah, I was in charge of everything. I was a shy lad, you know, before I went to Leeds, and then suddenly I did. I really surprised myself. Before I'd gone to Leeds, I'd hardly dare go in a shop and ask for a newspaper. I've never been really been able to explain it. I got there and I just wanted to do it.”
2007-03-11 · Desert Island Discs · Andy Kershaw · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“My last term was The Pretenders, the Boomtime Rats, Black Ahuru, the Clash Christmas nineteen eighty to send the students home for the Christmas holidays. We did Ian Jury and the blockheads on the Friday night and dire straits on the Saturday.”
2007-03-11 · Desert Island Discs · Andy Kershaw · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“bands like the clash were on tour they came to Leeds University so I was like 19 years of age and I was in charge of this team of like 200 volunteers and I was booking the bands so I actually took a conscious decision what am I going to do come out with a piece of paper like everyone else or come out with this experience what did Albert Hammond say in that song I gave it up for music in a free electric band and”
2007-03-11 · Desert Island Discs · Andy Kershaw · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“I became the entertainment secretary, and Leeds, along with Lancaster, they were the two biggest college venues in the country. And there wasn't a rival venue of the same optimum size in the city.”
2007-03-11 · Desert Island Discs · Andy Kershaw · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Oh God the clash, I love the clash. Well, I was suppose of the punk generation, but of the punk bands, I think the clash just stood head and shoulders above all the others. They turned up at Leeds University, one of the greatest concerts I've ever seen in january nineteen eighty, and I have to say they were that night the greatest rock and roll band I've ever seen. They were the fully rounded finished item. They had everything. And they were also, they only white band that fully understood and could play Reggie. Don't tell me about the police, don't tell me about UB4.”
2007-03-11 · Desert Island Discs · Andy Kershaw · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Oh, yeah, they were all walking around with lead zeppelin albums under their arm by the time they were 15. And, you know, I was walking around with Woody Guthrie.”
2007-03-11 · Desert Island Discs · Andy Kershaw · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“No, it wasn't a style thing, you know, in a sense. No, God, no, no, it's just that Dylan pointed me off in lots of different directions from Dylan. I started listening to Woody Guthrie, I started listening to Muddy Waters, Big Bill Broomsy, Johnny Cash. What we now call, I suppose, American roots music.”
2007-03-11 · Desert Island Discs · Andy Kershaw · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Yes, I am very gregarious. I love the people. I love me friends. I like meeting new people, you know, but I'm also quite self contained as well. When I need to be self-contained, I can be.”
2007-03-11 · Desert Island Discs · Andy Kershaw · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“I'd tried talking the guitar like everyone did at university, and I was no good. You know, you have to recognize sometimes because you can't be good at everything. I tried motorcycle racing, I was no good at that either. Probably as well, actually.”
2007-03-11 · Desert Island Discs · Andy Kershaw · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Do I wish I'd been a musician? No, not really, not really because I think it would hold then no mystery for me. And also, if I were able to play, I'd have to be able to play the guitar, like Raikuda, or if I was able to play the piano, I'd have to be able to play the piano as well as Jerry Lee Lewis.”
2007-03-11 · Desert Island Discs · Andy Kershaw · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“We wanted the forky dillin, the woody gutherry dillin, and there was this enormous tension between artist and audience, and I'd always wanted to make a documentary about this one concert, and after a long process I tracked down the man who made the most infamous heckle in rock and roll history. He shouted one word in nineteen sixty six, and in nineteen ninety eight nineteen ninety nine attract him down. And it was the climax of the concert. It was the last number, and they'd been heckling and slow hand clapping all the way through. And just before Dylan and the band plunged into Rolling Stone, let fly with this cry of Judas.”
2007-03-11 · Desert Island Discs · Andy Kershaw · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Well, this is a version of a rolling stone which was recorded at the Manchester Free Trade Hall on May the 17th, 1966, on Dylan's first electric tour of the UK. And a huge proportion of the audience at all those concerts, they liked Dylan, you know, as the By the times they are a changing kind of”
2007-03-11 · Desert Island Discs · Andy Kershaw · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Bob In a way I'm where I am today because of Dylan, you know, and when I was twelve, we went back to about 1972, I was buying slade records and sneaking them into the house under my cult. But what really blew me off? and I just never heard anything like it before.”
2007-03-11 · Desert Island Discs · Andy Kershaw · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“It's clever dick, is what I'm trying to say Oh, Suart, yeah, that's the mission. Look, John Walters, my dear departed Radio 1 producer, and that of Peel as well, used to summarise the Rethean public service broadcasting attitude in one phrase. He used to say to us over and over again, with wearying frequency in the office, he used to boom at me and peel. Look, we're not here to give people what they want. We're here to give people what they didn't know they wanted. And I think that's what drives me.”
2007-03-11 · Desert Island Discs · Andy Kershaw · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“I think so, yes. I think I got my energy and my enthusiasm from my mum and my curiosity from my dad. Education was the priority, sure.”
2007-03-11 · Desert Island Discs · Andy Kershaw · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“No, it wasn't a musical family at all, in fact, and meanty Brenda, my dad's sister, was Lock Groovier than me dad, and she had Beatles records, and she'd even bought me a Beatles plastic wig and a Beatles guitar. And I remember standing on her kitchen table, singing I want to hold your hand. I'd be about four at the time.”
2007-03-11 · Desert Island Discs · Andy Kershaw · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“My dad was, well, by the time I was about five, my dad was a headmaster of the secondary school. My mum was the headmistress of a nursery school, so I came from a teaching background really.”
2007-03-11 · Desert Island Discs · Andy Kershaw · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“It's just so pretty, and it's so simple as well. And so melodic. You know, I love the Bundy boys so much when they turned up, they had nothing. There were one guitar short of what they needed. I lent them my electric guitar. And then I did unpaid rode in for them, going round with them. I loved them so much.”
2007-03-11 · Desert Island Discs · Andy Kershaw · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Yes, I think change of gear. Let's get happy about Africa. The Bundu boys, and their arrival in the UK in 1986 was for me a road to Damascus experience. I remember John Peel and I, because we shared an office for many years, tiny little office. We used to sit across a table from each other with a record player in between. And this EP as it was at the time came in and we put it on, this tune started, and we both just pros and we just stared at each other for the duration. I went and thought, what is this? What is this? And that's what I'm always looking for in life, that sense of, what is this?”
2007-03-11 · Desert Island Discs · Andy Kershaw · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Oh I am, I am. I've never been as frightened in my life. I never want to know fear like that again. When we were ambushed, South of Kigali one day, first of all the vehicle in front of ours went over an anti tank mine, and then whoever they were, the government or the Intera Hamway opened up from a banana plantation on us gunfire. And then to get out of this fix, we had to walk for eleven miles down a road which was quite clearly full of landmines, and I saw them as well anti personnel mines, and it was getting dark and you couldn't switch on a torch. She switched on a torch, you make yourself a target. It was completely dark. And every time you put your foot down, you expected a bang. It was the most frightening thing I've ever done. And also you knew when you were approaching a village because you could smell it.”
2007-03-11 · Desert Island Discs · Andy Kershaw · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Well, the strange thing was, cursed it, nobody really wanted to go because it was so horrific. And there was no kind of immunity for press people. If you got caught up in it, you got caught up in it. And also, don't forget, simultaneously what was happening is Nelson Mandela was being inaugurated in South Africa. So every Africa specialist was down in Pretoria. And so I think that's how I read your one DJ ended up covering the Rwandan genocide for the Today program.”
2007-03-11 · Desert Island Discs · Andy Kershaw · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“The moderate Hutos, yeah, this was mid May and it had kicked off on April the 7th. And this guy turned out to be the Bujimburo representative of the Rwandan Patriotic Front, the rebels, the good guys. And he said, you want to go over into Rwanda? And I said, well, look, I'm a coward. I said, I don't want to meet the government soldiers. I don't want to meet the Interhamway, the death squads. I said, I'll only go where your guys are. And he said, yes, I can arrange that for you. So took us a long story short, Jeff and I crossed the border one night into Rwanda, turned to bend in this red dirt road. I met all these kids wearing Wellington boots and holding transistor radios to the rears and listening to the BBC World Service. And some of them, when they put their AK forty sevens down on the stocks, they were shorter than the rifles, a platoon of about ten of them, and they took us round for well all the time we were there.”
2007-03-11 · Desert Island Discs · Andy Kershaw · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“I was asked by the today program to go to Burundi. This was soon after the Rwanda thing had kicked off, to go to Burundi with me great friend Jeff Spink, BBC producer, to find out whether the ethnic conflict would spill over from Rwanda into neighbouring Burundi. And we were sitting at a bar one night in a hotel there. And a guy came up to us, a local guy, and he said, would you like to go into Rwanda? I had promised everyone back at home I would not set foot in Rwanda because it was beginning to emerge just exactly what was going on.”
2007-03-11 · Desert Island Discs · Andy Kershaw · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source