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Ann Druyan

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  1. “So I was blindfolded and Couldn't hear anything, and I had made a mental itinerary of exactly where I wanted to go. I was truly humbled by the idea that These thoughts could conceivably touch the distant future.”

    2020-03-05 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #78 – Ann Druyan: Cosmos, Carl Sagan, Voyager, and the Beauty of Science · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source

  2. “I had asked Carl if it were in the making of the record it was my honor to be the creative director of the project if it was possible to if I had meditated for an hour while I was hooked up so that you know every single signal that was coming from my brain my body was recorded Then converted into sound for the record. Was it possible that these putative extraterrestrials of the distant future of perhaps a billion years from now would be able to reconstitute this message and to understand it? And he just big smile, you know, and just say, well, a billion years is a long time, go do it.”

    2020-03-05 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #78 – Ann Druyan: Cosmos, Carl Sagan, Voyager, and the Beauty of Science · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source

  3. “Pieces of music from all around the world. Many people describe it as the invention of world music. World music was not a concept that existed before the Voyager record, and we were determined to take our music, not just from the dominant technical cultures, but from all of the rich cultural heritage of the earth. And there's a sound essay, which is a kind of using a microphone as a camera to tell the story of the Earth beginning with its geological sounds and moving into And then into technology. And I think what you were getting at is that at the end of this sound essay.”

    2020-03-05 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #78 – Ann Druyan: Cosmos, Carl Sagan, Voyager, and the Beauty of Science · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source

  4. “Turn to Frank and to Carl and said we'd like you to do a message for Voyager. Because if it's going to be Circumnavigating the Milky Way galaxy for one to five billion years. You know, it's like 20 trips around the galaxy. And there's a very small chance that a space faring civilization would be able to flag one of them down. And so on board, you've seen this exquisite golden disc with scientific hieroglyphics explaining our address and various basic scientific concepts that we believe that would be common to any space-varying civilization. And then beneath this exquisite golden disc, Is the Voyager record, the golden record. And it contains something like 118 photographs, images of life on Earth, as well as.”

    2020-03-05 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #78 – Ann Druyan: Cosmos, Carl Sagan, Voyager, and the Beauty of Science · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source

  5. “Engineering I mean, really, you know, Voyager is doing this on less energy than you have in your toaster. Something like 11 watts. So, okay, but because of this gravitational assist, both Voyagers were destined, as I say, to, first of all, they were supposed to function for a dozen years. And now it's 42 years since launch, and we're still talking to them. So that's amazing. Prior to launch, almost a year, eight, nine months prior to launch. Was decided that since Frank Drake and Carl Sagan and Linda Salzman Sagan had created something called the pioneer ten plaque for the pioneer spacecraft that preceded Voyager, which was kind of like a license plate for the planet Earth. Know a man and a woman hands up, you know, very basic, but very effective. And it captured the imagination of people all over the world. And so NASA.”

    2020-03-05 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #78 – Ann Druyan: Cosmos, Carl Sagan, Voyager, and the Beauty of Science · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source

  6. “These two spacecraft not only gave us our first close-up look. Hundreds of moons and planets, these four giant planets, but also it told us the shape of the solar system as it moves through the galaxy because there were two of them going in different directions. They finally arrived at a place called the heliopause, which is where the wind from the sun, the solar wind dies down, and the interstellar medium begins, and both voyagers were the first spacecraft that we had that could tell us when that happened. So it's a consummate, I think it's the greatest scientific achievement of the 20th century.”

    2020-03-05 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #78 – Ann Druyan: Cosmos, Carl Sagan, Voyager, and the Beauty of Science · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source

  7. “In 1987. And you put the key in the ignition because you use keys then in the ignition. And it turned over the first time you stepped on the gas. And so that's the genius of the engineering. Voyager, and Carl was one of the key participants in imagining what its mission would be, because it was a gift, actually, of the fact that every 175 years plus or minus, there is an alignment of the worlds. And so you could send two spacecraft. These other worlds and photograph them and use your mass spectrometer and all the other devices on Voyager to really explore these worlds.”

    2020-03-05 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #78 – Ann Druyan: Cosmos, Carl Sagan, Voyager, and the Beauty of Science · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source

  8. “Still active. We talked to Voyager a few days ago. We talk to it. In fact, a year ago, I think it was, we needed to slightly change the attitude of the spacecraft. And so we fired up its thrusters for the first time since 1987. Instantly, it was as if you had left your car in the garage.”

    2020-03-05 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #78 – Ann Druyan: Cosmos, Carl Sagan, Voyager, and the Beauty of Science · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source

  9. “Okay, so Voyager is one and two were our first reconnaissance mission of what was then considered the outer solar system. And it was a gift of gravity, the idea that swinging around these worlds gives you a gravitational assist, which ultimately will send you out of the solar system to wander the Milky Way galaxy for one to five billion years. So Voyager gave us our first close up look. Of Jupiter, Saturn, Uranus, Neptune, it discovered new moons, it discovered volcanoes on Io. Its achievements are astonishing. And remember, this is technology from the early to mid-1970s.”

    2020-03-05 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #78 – Ann Druyan: Cosmos, Carl Sagan, Voyager, and the Beauty of Science · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source

  10. “Of my favorite subjects. I love talking about it. I'll never get over it. Never be able to really wrap my head around the reality of it, the truth of it.”

    2020-03-05 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #78 – Ann Druyan: Cosmos, Carl Sagan, Voyager, and the Beauty of Science · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source

  11. “But he was missing a chip. You know, he was a lousy husband. He lacked, you know, the kind of spiritual understanding that maybe, you know, his wife had. And it's always in the end and they come around. But to me, that's a false dichotomy that we are, you know, to the extent that we are aware of our surroundings and understand them, which is what science makes it possible for us to do. We're even more alive.”

    2020-03-05 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #78 – Ann Druyan: Cosmos, Carl Sagan, Voyager, and the Beauty of Science · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source

  12. “Believing that we are the children of a disappointed father, a tyrant, who puts us in a maximum security, prison and calls it paradise, who looks at us, who watches us every moment, and hates us for being our human selves, you know, and then most of all, what is our great sin? It's partaking of the tree of knowledge which is our greatest gift as humans, this pattern recognition, this ability. To see things and then synthesize them and jump to conclusions about them and test those conclusions. So I think the reason that in literature, in movies. Scientist is a figure of alienation. Figure, you know, or you see these biopics about scientists, and yeah, he might have been”

    2020-03-05 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #78 – Ann Druyan: Cosmos, Carl Sagan, Voyager, and the Beauty of Science · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source

  13. “Is a perfect example of his massive achievement is to say, okay, or the Voyager record is another example, is here we have this mission, our first reconnaissance of the outer solar system. Well, how can we make it a mission in which we absolutely squeeze every drop of consciousness and understanding from it? We don't have to be scientists and then be human beings. I think that's the tragedy of Western civilization is that It's one of its greatest gifts has been science and yet at the same time it”

    2020-03-05 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #78 – Ann Druyan: Cosmos, Carl Sagan, Voyager, and the Beauty of Science · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source

  14. “And so if you're that kind of person who loves happiness, loves life, and your eyes are wide open and you read everything you can get your hands on and you spend years studying what is known so far about the universe, then you have that capacity, really infinite capacity to be alive and also at the same time to be very rigorous about what you're willing to believe. For Carl, I don't think he ever felt that his skepticism cost him anything because again, it comes back to love. He wanted to know what Nietzsche really was like, not to inflict his, you know, preconceived notions on what he wanted it to be. So you can't go wrong because it doesn't, you know, I mean, you know, I think the pale blue dot is.”

    2020-03-05 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #78 – Ann Druyan: Cosmos, Carl Sagan, Voyager, and the Beauty of Science · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source

  15. “Yeah, I mean, I think it's up to the individual, but for me, you know, I was so ridiculously fortunate in that my tutorial in science, because I'm not a scientist and I wasn't trained in science, was 20 years of days and nights with Carl Sagan. And the wonder, I think the reason Carl remains so beloved. Well, I think there are many reasons. But at the root of it is the fact that his skepticism was never at the cost of his wonder and his wonder was never at the cost of his skepticism. So he couldn't fool himself into believing something he wanted to believe because it made him feel good. But on the other hand, he recognized that what science, what nature is, is really, it's good enough, you know. It's way better than our fantasies.”

    2020-03-05 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #78 – Ann Druyan: Cosmos, Carl Sagan, Voyager, and the Beauty of Science · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source

  16. “Extent, but it's upheld, and we keep faith with it. And the same with science. It's like we will give you the highest rewards we have for proving us wrong about something. That's genius. That's why in only 400 years since Galileo's first look through a telescope, We could get from this really dim, fake this vague apprehension of another world descending our eyes and our senses there or even to going beyond. So it delivers the goods. Like nothing else. It really delivers the goods because it's always self-aware of its fallibility.”

    2020-03-05 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #78 – Ann Druyan: Cosmos, Carl Sagan, Voyager, and the Beauty of Science · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source

  17. “What is love is knowing for me love is knowing something deeply. And still being completely Gratified by it. You know, and wanting to know more. So, what is love? What is loving someone, a person, let's say, deeply? Is not idealizing them? Not putting some kind of subjective Projection on them? But knowing them as they are. And so for me, the only aperture to that, knowing about nature, the universe, is science because it has that error correcting mechanism that most of the stuff that we do doesn't have. You know, you could say the Bill of Rights is kind of an error-correcting mechanism, which I, it's one of the things I really appreciate about the society in which I live.”

    2020-03-05 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #78 – Ann Druyan: Cosmos, Carl Sagan, Voyager, and the Beauty of Science · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source

  18. “First of all, as Socrates thought, you know, knowing that you know little is knowing really knowing something, knowing more than others. And it's that voice whispering in our heads. You might be wrong, which I think is not only, it's really healthy because we're so imperfect. We're human, of course, but also love to me is a feeling that you always want to go deeper, get closer. You can't get. Enough of it, you can't get close enough, deep enough. So, and that's what science is always saying. Science is never simply content with its understanding of any aspect of nature. It's always saying, it's always finding that even smaller cosmos beneath. So I think the two are very much parallel.”

    2020-03-05 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #78 – Ann Druyan: Cosmos, Carl Sagan, Voyager, and the Beauty of Science · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source

  19. “Is the purest kind of love, and therefore, you know, how can our philosophy, our religion, if it's rootless in nature, how can it really be true? I just don't understand. So I think you need science to get a sense of the real romance of life and the great experience of being awake in the cosmos.”

    2020-03-05 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #78 – Ann Druyan: Cosmos, Carl Sagan, Voyager, and the Beauty of Science · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source

  20. “You've touched on what I think is for me that's how my way into science is that for me, it's much more spiritually uplifting the revelations of science, the collective revelations of Really countless generations of searchers, and the little tiny bit we know about reality is the greatest joy for me because I It relates to the idea of love like what is love that is based on illusion about the other. That's not love. Love is seeing unflinching the other. And accepting with all your heart. And to me, knowing the universe as it is or the little bit that we're able to understand at this point.”

    2020-03-05 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #78 – Ann Druyan: Cosmos, Carl Sagan, Voyager, and the Beauty of Science · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source

  21. “I think of what Einstein said when he opened the 1939 New York World's Fair. He said Science is ever to fulfill its mission the way art has done. It must penetrate. Its inner meaning must penetrate the consciousness of everyone. So, for me, especially in a civilization dependent on high technology and science, One that aspires to be democratic. Critical that the public as informed decision makers understand the values and the methods and the rules of science.”

    2020-03-05 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #78 – Ann Druyan: Cosmos, Carl Sagan, Voyager, and the Beauty of Science · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source