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  1. Yeah, I can't imagine myself waking up at 6 a.m. rushing to work with a briefcase, getting a coffee and going for another fight, not physically.

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  2. I find it interesting after sports why these guys go on. I envision myself just kicking back with my feet up on a beach somewhere.

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  3. Yeah, but I feel like naturally it's not something that everyone can get their hands on. But what I can do is show you how to help people. When you're in a position, it doesn't take much to help someone, given someone 20 pound can change their day. People live paycheck to paycheck. £20 makes a massive difference in someone's life, £200. And that's why I try and show little acts of good deeds because I can show you the cars. I could show you the watches. But at the end of the day, what's that going to do for you? And people say, Oh, you should do it in private. So, why should I drive my cars in front of you and show you all my cars? But I should do all the acts of goodness in private. I would rather hide my cars and stop flaunting my wealth and show you the acts of good deeds that I do for sure.

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  4. And we have to give the man credit for who he's become. Maybe someone down the line in his family, or maybe there is someone in this family doing all these great things that we don't know about. Maybe he is doing it. But me, if I was on the forefront, the front line, Why I try and open an organization Clean Hearts Community and stuff like that. Put things back because I could show you what is worth millions of pounds and cars worth millions of pounds.

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  5. So important. Yeah. It's so important. And this is the thing, right? I'm sitting here saying what I would do if I'm Floyd Maybert. And as I said, it works for him.

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  6. Even if you flaunt it, if you're seeing to help people, what can anyone seen to help people? It's like, this is all for me. You guys stay out there, you can never get like me. I want to sit down and be like, this is all for me and I want you guys to come and experience this as well with me. There's more than enough for all of us. When someone knocks on your door and they're hungry and you close the door, sooner or later they'll come and burn your house down. So you've got to kind of look out for people where you can. It's important.

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  7. Can I interrupt there when you say the utter obsession with money? I understand it because he's come from a poverty stricken background, a very tough background, but I believe that if you do generate a lot of money, I just wish that he helped more people. There's nothing wrong with making money.

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  8. Imagine we could do something so positive. I know it's like boxing is about egos and who's a better man, but if we put that aside and say, look, we're two of the best fighters in the world finally where Great Britain is on the map. How can we inspire the country? How can we do something positive? We could really make something amazing happen out of this historical. I don't know what it is, but I hope we do come together and do something positive rather than just get on stage and disrespect each other and pull each other down. I ain't got time for all that. I just want to fight him and beat him. Rory. Give me a book to read.

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  9. No, I think he does. I think he does. But it's just from an entertainment, from a performance point of view, we're not spring chickens anymore. We're older, war torn buyers. We've been through a lot and it would have been really good to have this fight in our prime. And especially that we're both from Great Britain as well, you know.

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  10. Myself, that when it's all said and done, I want to be able to sit down and break down in tears when it's all said and done, knowing I gave it everything.

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  11. You have to ask him. Do you know what is I just, I'm at a stage now where I'm just tired of waiting around because there's been a time in my life I was 100% it's gonna happen. I promise you I'm on it I'm gonna make this work and it's like deflated Remember me and him were supposed to fight before the USIC fight I think he had announced it and said we assigned a contract I had sparring partners in I was sparring getting ready to fight him and then Deontay Wilder filed for an arbitration and he had to pull out of the fight and he had to go and fight Deontay Wilder. And I've been there a lot of times, a few times before. And I think Merezume shows that as well. I've fought 12 world title fights, I've competed with, I think four to five champions of this era, heavyweight champions of this era. Yeah, losing is not nice. But if you fight the best consistently, you might come up short. But I feel it does a lot for my character anyway. It makes me feel strong.

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  12. It's strange. It's strange. And, like, there's no excuses. Because if you really want something to happen, I fought people. I could say, oh, you know, we're on different networks. He's on BT. I'm on his own. I fought people on BT. I fought people on Skype. There's no excuses. That's why I said it's just timing. It's just timing.

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  13. Oh no, there's no issue with money there. No. Is it about money? Yes, but is the money an issue? No, not at all. I know my worth. He knows his worth and there's more than enough on the table where both of us can receive.

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  14. Right now, it seems that he is planning on fighting an MMA fighter. And then after that, he might take the rest of this year out. And after this year's out, he might fight for the undisputed. We're not too sure what happens there. Or there might be another opportunity where he can generate funds elsewhere. But I just, I don't know what his trajectory is for the future. But right now, he spent this year planning to compete with an MMA fighter when he's a WBC champion of the world.

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  15. Time. Time is of the essence. Time. That's it. It's got to be the right time. The stars have to align. He's on a completely different trajectory than what I'm on.

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  16. Everything. It changed as Rory said. It changed my whole approach to the second fight, which got me the victory against the same opponent. So I just tackled it completely different way. And that's what life for me is about is learning. So as we said, Black Lives Matter. What did I learn from that? And how can I do it better the next time? I lost to Rouiz. What did I learn from that? How can I do it better the next time? And I'm going to keep on evolving, keep on changing, keep on trying to improve myself as a person inside the ring, outside the ring, in my day-to-day life. And that's why I love life. And that's why I still do sports because you ask about finances. It's the challenge of boxing that I love. Every day, like I can work on something that I can get better at, that I believe I'm getting better at. So that's why I just love living. I love that chase for improvement, but that chase for better times, better punch outputs. And to challenge myself.

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  17. Important thing. Without that win, I don't know if I would be here speaking to you guys right now because my career would have taken a completely different stretchery. So I understood the importance of just getting that win.

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  18. So, what I believed is one has to be more versatile than have one strategy. If you're going to war constantly, sooner or later people will figure you out. And for example, Ruiz was able to figure that style out. And I took an immediate rematch. If I went in there and done the exact same thing, I went back onto the battlefield and I prepared the same way, done the exact same thing, I would have had the exact same result. But what people fail to understand is I boxed him four months later to a unanimous points decision to become two-time heavyweight champion of the world. And that was all that was important to me. And you asked me earlier, what's more important to you? Do you hate losing or do you love winning? And when you love winning, you'll just do whatever it is to win. Because all you care about is just getting to win. And for me, just getting that win was the most, whichever way I had to do it. For me, just getting that win was the most important.

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  19. Yeah, I would. And then I could donate some of the funds to Ukraine. I feel like it's balanced. Alban negative. That's what I said you. Alban negative I could always create a positive. And at the time, it may be looked at as a wrong thing. People may not agree with it. But if I was to do that, me personally, I'll say, okay, look, if I was to fight in Russia, my goal is to help fund some kids that are suffering in Ukraine from the hospital's been blown up. So it's a balance, it's a balance. I think the world is based on hypocrisy as well, where one will say they wouldn't, another would say they would. And in 10 years, no one remembers half of it anyway.

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  20. Yeah, definitely. Because that's their reality. Like, if I'm involved in human rights and so on and so forth, that's my day-to-day reality. So anything I see that goes against what my reality is, I have to address it. So I understand, but I'm a boxer. So if I have a great opportunity to do good business anywhere in the world, if someone likes or doesn't like it, it's got nothing to do with what their opinions are. It's just about what's good for my career.

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  21. Yeah, I just like. That is not what it's like to really struggle. I know it's like to really, really struggle. So it's just to continue to help people in my small way. That's all I could change. And that's when you talk about what would I be as a politician? I think I'll be someone that works in the borough. I wouldn't try and do world politics. As I always say, start at home, hence where the Black Lives Matter much rather than going to central London. I'd actually just stayed in my local area and we tackled problems at home. And yeah, I think if I can inspire one of the kids from there, I could lift them up higher than I've ever been because I'm only on a platform that I stand on. And if I can lift someone up, they could actually go on to do better things than I have. So yeah, I would definitely do things more local.

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  22. Yeah, exactly. But this is what I'm saying. If I'm going to put myself in the forefront and be an ambassador and be an athlete, you also have to accept when I do make mistakes because I'm not perfect and I'll say it. I'm allowed to make mistakes. I'm allowed to learn and I'm allowed to come back. And I put that out there. And if no one likes that, then don't be a fan of me because that's just who I am.

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  23. Teachings are important. So, yeah, that's what I would have addressed is like, look, we're all one at the end of the day. We all bleed the same. And that's why I'm in my community helping everyone and anyone.

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  24. And it was like, oh, look, I got to say something. Actually, give me Reese's speech. And it's stupid as it sounds. That was it. But looking back, I understand where he's coming from. I understand where he's coming from. But I read it. So I take the heat for it. But if I was to write my own speech, I believe in more togetherness. I believe we're all one under God. You know, under God's eyes, we're all one. And it's a shame, really a real shame what happened to George Floyd. It's a real shame when people are judged on the color of their skin because the color of the black man and black woman is melanin. It's a chemical reaction in the skin, which is to do with sun and, you know, it's not based on anything else, but it's just determined as a negative sometimes to people. So it's a shame where there's that lack of education that people are people. And that's why I just say cultural, cultural.

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  25. Why I felt I had to. I felt there was no point in me going into central London because there's issues in the community, right? And where I grew up, a lot of people, they know me from a kid anyway. So let's tackle what issues we have at home. And yeah, I've faced racism, stereotypes, all that type of stuff. So it was tough. So I felt like it's important to tackle issues at home where I've experienced certain things, right? And I know these type of people and we can all work together in making a change. So I went to the town center with a lot of our 600 to 1,000 people from the local town, which was a really nice turnout. And yeah, stupidly, I didn't proofread a note that was written by one of our, like, remember, growing up, there was like 50 of us. In terms of 50 of us, two parents to each 50 people, all their parents were there as well. So it was like low.

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  26. Okay, that's another issue, not an issue because it's benefited some boxes, but obviously. Yeah, lost viewers in other ways. So, yeah, the pay per view model is an issue where people, I'm not paying to watch that.

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  27. For example, I would rather sit down and watch Sunset Beach rather than watch two guys punching their heads in. So what changed then is that in those times where Joe Lewis was the king, that was really the only thing people were interested in or would watch where they were more famous than the president. They were the real heroes of the country. But now you're giving these kids and people like myself so much opportunity to watch so many different things. Half of the great things I say to the world, if they just listen, it'll be a better place. But I can understand that they've got so many other things to watch. Whereas if it was years ago, you know, what I would say would get picked up by millions of people, but now it's hard. It's really difficult to kind of stand out amongst so many unbelievable individuals.

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  28. In terms of the culture, there's a great book called The Ark of Boxing. So when I speak on this subject, I'm only speaking on what I've read. This isn't my philosophy. So what I learn is years ago, let's say before TV, what would be pushed was what the governments could tax the most. And when they realize in like bare knockle fighting and prizing would generate massive gates, they would give acceptance to have fights of 90,000 people, for example, right? So it was big news in communities. Word was spread that, you know, Joe Lewis is fighting Rocky Marciano, bringing massive gates. It will be spoken about on one or two radio stations all month. And it was a talk of the town. So let's say now you've got 10,000 people that are signing up to be boxers every month. And then when TV came about,

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  29. Yeah, because you do it off of interest, it's free money, don't cost me anything. That $5 million a year for the rest of my life is not going anywhere because I've invested the bulk of it. So why shouldn't I help people along the way? I've managed to. Break away from the rep race and change the cycle that was stuck in. And I think it's important to also not walk alone, but to walk side by side with people. I love to help people. As I said, if I can make free money, I would always give portions of it away, 100%.

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  30. I say you're like a community bank in a way, but I live off the, let's say, 5% rule that if I had 100 million pounds, I'm worth 5 million a year for the rest of my life. So I have to be smart, I have to be shrewd. But at the same time, I'm not stingy. It's just in my nature. Some people are stingy. Some people wonder why. I wouldn't do it if I was him. Why is he doing that? But they're not me. And I would ask them the same question. If he was in my position, why don't you? So for me personally, money is a tool to help yourself and to help others as well.

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  31. I don't like it, but it drives me on to make more money. I'm like, oh, that's amazing. I've got some money. Then next week is, oh, I actually don't have as much as I thought. But this is like, I want my son to actually be learn accounting, even on a basic level. He should learn accounting because it's very important. I've never met a poor accountant. So yeah, I think it'll be good for him to learn the basics of the way the UK economy works.

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  32. The only wing I know is a chicken wing. I don't know left wing, right wing, up wing, downwing. All I know is the wing in left hooks. But let me be honest, no one wants to pay money to the government. Everyone wants to give money to their family and friends, right? Everyone wants to spend money on any fair trainers.

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  33. You're going to carry it up so much information about who you are as a fighter. So Ukrainian boxes don't really turn professional straight away. They kind of represent their country. Like their government really look after them when they're doing well for the country. And that's where I think they managed to not produce very, very talented fighters in the long run where we kind of rush our fighters. Like I turn professional after three years because I'm like, I'm not getting anything from politics. So I need to go out there and earn my coin myself. So I'm like, forget all this boxing for Great Britain. I need to kind of box on myself. Where's a professional contractor? So that's the. Three years as an amateur, and then you have someone like Usik probably 14 years as an amateur.

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  34. Basically, you fight, and people want to see if you're tough enough. So I've got all my competitors watching. That was really good. That was really good. And I proved myself. And aside from me and Klitchco competing with each other, I appreciate the fact that he brought me into his training camp and he opened his doors to me. And in terms of like Great Britain and Ukraine and America now still dominating, I believe it comes from the amateur system. Like a lot of these guys, they say amateur for a long period of time. So you get so much experience experience is the best teacher where I'm still going for a process of changing trainers, figuring out what's good for me, trying to understand my style. Whereas if you can learn all this in your amateur days, what's good for you, what style you have, because in the amateurs you're finding taller guys, shorter guys, you're finding guys from Africa, from Russia, from North America, different styles, different cultures. So you're going through all of these experiences which are going to shape you when you turn

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  35. In order to get smart, in terms, I'll ask questions. So I'd ask him a million questions, I would film certain things. Hey, man, stop filming. Stop filming. It's private, right? But I've got like this one minute clip of sparring. I've got little bits of the speed ball. Then I came back and then about four years later, me and him now are facing off together to compete in the ring. So from that experience, right. In the camp with Klitch Go, I was so inexperienced. His training camp was very tough. Dylan White was there in the training camp. Kevin Johnson, who I also boxes in the training camp, Malik Scott, who's now Dontay Wilder's trainer, was in the training. So I was like, this hostile environment where the up-and-coming boxes are coming together. So character building environment as well. And like you're sparring in front of these guys. And sparring is the closest thing to a fight. You just put a head guard on. You put a bigger protector on and you fight.

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  36. Yeah, and then they get looked at as dumb and boring. It's crazy. So I really respect them because what I value as someone that has other things going on in their life, like, it's not just what meets. It's just not on the face. They have other things going on in their life. And they're amazing. They're very successful in what they've done in the boxing industry. I know how tough it is in this industry. So to navigate their way through this industry, I give them untold amounts of credit and respect. So he invited me to training camp in Austria. So as a young up-and-coming heavyweight, like I've got heavyweights now in my gym, training with me, helping me prepare, he invited me. And I remember buying like a cannon camera. Asked my friend, David, like, what camera should I buy? Because I want to film. I want to kind of document, yeah, like how a professional, how elite champion sets up a training camp. I'm someone that I'm not afraid to look stupid.

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  37. It was individual, but I believe doubt means that you're underprepared mentally. I need to be clear because it's interesting that we talk about I control my thoughts. Who am I and what are my thoughts? How are they two separate things? But there's something going on that's separate to me that I can use to control my reality. And yeah, I'm going to control that.

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  38. And in such a simple statement, it's such a bold, powerful statement as well. When you truly understand the power of his mind, that shape and his reality, how he's gone 50 and 0, beating X amount of world champions, everyone wants to be Floyd Mayweather in the boxing community. And he said, I never think about losing. So we're here now talking about, Rory asked me about the loss to Ruit. And that's why I said, I can't let her define me because it's interesting as an athlete. Once you lose, can I come back to you and say to you today that I never think about losing? That's where my mental strength needs to come in because you have to consistently think like a winner, even in your worst times.

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  39. It's hard to say as an athlete what went wrong because it seems like you make excuses. So I'm just going to say, I got beat by the better man that night. That's what it was. He was just better than me that night. He done well. Credit to him. And even in my worst times, I always say, I still made history where the guy who beat me became the first Mexican champion of the world. So that's still a historic moment in my career, which is it'll be something I will always be around for many years. And my name, even in negative, will always be spoken about in Mexico, for example. So the Joshua name, even in the negative times, will still live on.

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  40. I kept on questioning myself. I didn't rest as I said, I didn't sit back and go into a shell. I said, I'm very competitive. And that comparative nature, right? I'm not competing with anyone else. It was just myself. I'm trying to figure out myself. How do I get better? What's wrong with me? As you said, I was winning, winning, winning, winning, winning, and I faced a loss. Why is that? So those questions I ask myself was the competitive nature that I had against myself. And it brought me to a place of climbing back up that mountain where I am now. And that's, sorry, and that's not winning in the ring. These are small victories that I've had at home.

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  41. Yeah, so I understand that it's my reality now. So I have to accept that there were guys out there at one stage in my career that were better than me on that night and they're over to beat me on that night. And I also learned that I don't let that define me. So I'm still able to like come back and fight like I'm on August 12th and prove myself again. Now I'm now trying to like shape my reality now where you talk about like mental stamina, mental strength. What is mental strength? Who am I? Am I those defeats? And I say, no, I'm not. Those are experiences. And you can't have nighttime at the same time as having daytime. Like you can't have positive at the same time as having negative. It's either one or the other. But it's all about what you can take from the negative that happens in my life and what I took from that is.

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  42. Way where I felt it's going to define me because I'm a champion. I always said I'm a champion by just turning up to the gym and sorting my life out. And then at the age of 18, 19, I decided to stop smoking, stop raving and drinking. Around 21 after the Olympics, when I turned pro, maybe 23, I stopped wheeling and dealing because I always understood that you have to have a secondary income, right? I couldn't pull mags in one basket. I'd imagine I'm still professional, still fighting in front of the world, but I'm still in my community wheeling and dealing and stuff like that. But yeah, and that's where I'm lucky. And out of that negative, where I was like a wheeler-dealer, having a secondary income, I also understood the importance of handling your business. And that's where when I was thrown into this world of boxing where it wasn't only about performance, it was about handling your business. Those experiences from my past.

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  43. And when I was gymming, it was like, yeah, you know, you've got these muscles, yeah, but can you fight? Like, I can't fight, but I've been fighting outside the clubs. I'm gonna fight. Like, trust me, you can't fight. So I'll take him to the boxing gym. And the thing is with boxing, I think it's for more troubled, deprived kids that are getting bullied, a rich kid that may be getting bullied. People are going through things. I think it just took to me because I was probably searching for that home where let's say when I used to fight, I used to get arrested and get in trouble. Now I'm fighting and people are like, well done, mate. You look amazing. I'm like, hang on a minute. This is a bit of me. And that's the kind of like what I started thinking. I was like, people are praising me for the same thing I was doing, but in the wrong environment. And I just stuck with it. And I remember I used to leave the gym. I used to throw up. And it felt like the devil was coming out of me. Like my spirit was getting cleansed. And I never used boxing as...

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  44. 20 minutes down the road because it was like Watford and North London, the edge of London. I was isolated in a way. So I was on my own. So I tried gymming. I started going to the gym because I was thinking, when I go back to Watford, when this band gets lifted, I want to be big and strong and go and dominate. And then I started realizing there's a benefit in looking after your health. And it wasn't about money. There was no monetary value in looking after my health, but I felt rich in spirit. When I started training, I felt really rich in spirit. And I stumbled across boxing because my cousin was boxing.

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  45. Yeah, so before boxing, I lived in hostels. I would smoke. Oh, that's a bad thing, but I believe at a young age when you're developing smoking weed is not good for you, if I'm honest with you. You have to be sharp. And I think smoking weed relaxes you and makes you paranoid and stuff. And the world is so competitive. You need to be sharp. Your brain needs to be on point. So yeah, smoking weed, obviously raving and drinking. And I was getting in trouble as well. I'd have a fight in the street after a rave where I was drunk. I'd try and make money if I could get alcohol for cheap on a black market. I can then sell it to local corner shops for more. I was like a wheeler dealer. However, I could get money. And this was at the age of like 16 and 18, I got banned from where I grew up. So I moved to London. And elevation requires isolation. So I was then able to like, when I moved to London, even though I was only...

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  46. I'm really happy I stuck with Great Britain looking back because it's been a massive part of where I am today. That's why I say everything has a meaning. Everything. Like the positive has something that comes out of it. The negative is, yep, I could have had 200 million people screaming for me in Nigeria. Like, look at Afrobeats now, how big it is. And I could have been amongst that American African connection and been big all over the world. I'm happy being one of the few kings in Great Britain, you know.

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  47. Of my parents, right? The food we were eating. When I would listen to them on the phone, they'll speak in a native language. There's certain cultural ways that I was raised which are different to a lot of my friends and stuff like that. So yeah, I needed something that had meaning to me. And I got this done shortly after as well when I was 16.

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  48. Well, it started off at 15. I wanted a tattoo and I was thinking I don't want my mum to see. So I'm not going to get on my neck where all the rou boys get it. I'm not going to get on my forearm or anything like that. So I thought minus the rest of the tattoo. I just had wisdom at the top there. And when I look back, it shows my mind was in the right place. I was searching for knowledge and wisdom. Because I could have got like top raver or top geezer on the top of my show, you know? Because at the time I was raving, but wisdom was the thing I went to at 15. And then the map of Africa is something that has meaning, it's heritage, it's part of my culture, part of my DNA. What it is is inside my house, when I would walk through my door, it was like I was walking back into Nigeria every time.

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  49. So I wish I stayed there for a bit longer looking back because I think that it opened my eyes like past my community, the area I grew up in, I now saw a whole other side of life, right? That was probably like the first holiday or place I'd ever been at that age. And I was about 13, 12, 13. But I was actually told I was going a holiday. Whereas I was going to start school, I was actually now going to live. And it was a boarding school. Yeah, it was tough at the time. But it's a distant memory now as well. And that's what I love about life is a lot of things just fall back into the distant memory. At the time, it was the worst thing. And now I look back and it's like, it is what it is.

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  50. You know, luckily enough, luckily enough, I didn't. I believe I haven't. I'm with the same team. We've expanded, of course, but with the same core team that I started with, some people still here, some people not, but I've still got a lot of core members around. And we all learn, we all learn on the job. And we're helping other athletes along the way as well.

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