YouSaid · the spoken record

Anthony Julius

lines on the record: 54
first: 2009-11-13
most recent: 2009-11-13
sittings or episodes: 1
sources: podcast

Every line below is reproduced as it was said and linked to the record it came from. Nothing here is summarised or generated. Directory · Search · Corrections

“Well, I again impossible, but I drink a lot of San Pellegrino, so if I could have San Pellegrino on tap, I could drink it wash in it, brush my teeth with it, and survive alongside it.”
2009-11-13 · Desert Island Discs · Anthony Julius · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“It is my favourite novel my little boy Ellon, his middle name is Lev, which is named after one of the principal characters Levin, and I can't imagine ever being bored by the book however many times I reread it.”
2009-11-13 · Desert Island Discs · Anthony Julius · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Why the Torah? Why not the Bible? Well, I'm happy to. Yeah, of course. I mean, how can one be a student of English literature without being immersed in the New Testament?”
2009-11-13 · Desert Island Discs · Anthony Julius · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“I did see, I did see him, and I thought such a little ugly man and yet such beauty that he came out of him. It was a miracle.”
2009-11-13 · Desert Island Discs · Anthony Julius · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“This is Aaron Copeland's orchestral suite, the tender land. It's a large hearted and very moving piece of music and it always leaves me a bit choked actually.”
2009-11-13 · Desert Island Discs · Anthony Julius · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Well, I won't enjoy it, you know. and I think I'll become quite melancholic. Very soon but I will have this music to listen to”
2009-11-13 · Desert Island Discs · Anthony Julius · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“No, it hasn't been agonizing. I mean, I've been thinking about the selection of records I would make if I were ever to be so lucky to be advised on this for probably about 40 years. So on the contrary, it's only an occasion to celebrate. But reputation, celebrity status or whatever, they feel to me fantastically inconsequential and ephemeral if I think about what matters to me. aspect of my life doesn't figure at all.”
2009-11-13 · Desert Island Discs · Anthony Julius · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“This is a piece of music that I first heard at the Pompidou Centre Racina's petite mesolinelle. It's surprising because it has such a modern feel to it.”
2009-11-13 · Desert Island Discs · Anthony Julius · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“The possibility that I would find someone so intimately and completely right for me as Katerina was something that I hadn't really anticipated, so that it happened was both revelatory as well as being an intensely welcome.”
2009-11-13 · Desert Island Discs · Anthony Julius · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Yes, I'm married in July to a marvellous person Katerina, and our home life is a very happy one. We have Katarina and her two children, Joel and Minky, and my little boy Ellon and my children from my first marriage. We've made a family life together which Deeply moving for me and rich and rather wonderful, and I find that I've discovered a happiness and a contentment which is remarkable, perhaps even miraculous, certainly something that I'm deeply grateful for.”
2009-11-13 · Desert Island Discs · Anthony Julius · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Yes, it was difficult, it was difficult, of course, because of the disease, and it was also difficult because we felt under some public scrutiny, some public exposure. It was the way that Dina wanted to deal with the circumstances that she found herself in, and it was, and I understood it. But of course, for the family, it presented an additional challenge.”
2009-11-13 · Desert Island Discs · Anthony Julius · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“This actually is a piece of music that I listen to a lot with Chloe and Theo driving around backwards and forwards, and we became obsessed with the intro which we could all recite by heart. It's the little Stevie wonder when he was eleven or twelve and it's called fingertips.”
2009-11-13 · Desert Island Discs · Anthony Julius · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“What do I want for them? I mean, I want all the conventional things. I want them to lead happy, fulfilled lives. I want them to realise themselves. I want them to be able to look back on their lives at some terminal point and think that they had done everything that they wanted to do and they had been the best kind of person they could be. So, you know, quite modest”
2009-11-13 · Desert Island Discs · Anthony Julius · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Yes, I was close to him. I feel very close to my children, and I sometimes think of them as limbs that are stretched out from my own body. I have no real control over could be injured at any time would cause me pain as if I was injured myself, but I also think of them as fully autonomous adults adults to be, pursuing their own lives and once constantly divided between the sense of them as being extensions of oneself and the sense of them as being their own people.”
2009-11-13 · Desert Island Discs · Anthony Julius · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Yes, yeah, I hope I am, I believe I am, yes, I talk to the children, I mean the children I don't live with I talk to them pretty much every day but I mean of course I'm not the person to ask”
2009-11-13 · Desert Island Discs · Anthony Julius · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Well I have five children and I have five stepchildren I have a son Max who is twenty eight he lives in Israel I have a daughter Laura who is twenty six and I have a daughter Chloe who is nineteen a son Theo who's seventeen and a little Boy Ellon who's eight.”
2009-11-13 · Desert Island Discs · Anthony Julius · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“This is a lovely piece of music called Jerusalem of Gold Yulezahard, sir it was composed in the early months of nineteen sixty seven and of course as a result of the six day war it had a special resonance.”
2009-11-13 · Desert Island Discs · Anthony Julius · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“No, I don't. I mean, I think delight and self satisfaction are really, well, delight is fine in passing. Self satisfaction is the first. Vile so that's not I remember when I used to spend a lot of time with my father in his business when I was in my teens and I noticed that he would be tremendously excited about a new project opening a new shop and barking on some new venture and as soon as he'd set it going he didn't lose interest in it but it no longer satisfied him and he had to move on and do the next thing and I think I'm very much like that.”
2009-11-13 · Desert Island Discs · Anthony Julius · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Well, it was a bit of a surprise to me that it should have been so controversial a book. I got to about thirty and I was beginning to feel that I had plateaued out a bit in my career. When it occurred to me that perhaps a PhD would be a good idea, so I started doing a PhD on Elliott's antisemitism. I was always a great fan of Elliot's. I first read him when I was fifteen or sixteen, and I thought the Westland was wonderful, but it was clear to me that some of those poems were anti Semitic, and I thought it would be interesting to study the place of the anti Semitic poetry and some of the prose in the context of his work as a whole. It's not, of course, the same as Holocaust denial denial is utterly vicious, and the denial of antisemitism in Elliot is just a bit inept, but that refusal to acknowledge something which is obvious is an interesting psychological mechanism.”
2009-11-13 · Desert Island Discs · Anthony Julius · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Irving pursuing her, she had written in her book that he was a Holocaust denier and a falsifier of history as a result, and he had taken offence at it and sued her and her publisher's penguin.”
2009-11-13 · Desert Island Discs · Anthony Julius · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“No, I mean it was not a case that we were ever going to lose. There's very little credit that I should take from it because it was unwinnable for him. It's a curious thing the way one picks up work. It was purely by chance that Deborah Lipstadt, the American professor who Irving was suing, had happened to read a book that I'd written about T.S. Elliot and knew that I was a lawyer, phoned me up, and she asked me whether I would act for her. I know.”
2009-11-13 · Desert Island Discs · Anthony Julius · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Possibly, but I think what a lawyer really needs is good judgment. I mean, intelligence helps and a facility with words, but to be able to make judgments about what's in the interest of the clients, what would be sensible to do, what would not be sensible to do, when to sue, when not to sue, when to settle, what will matter to the client not today, perhaps, but in three months or six months time and to focus on that rather than the passions of the moment. These seem to me to be, I mean, as I got older and reflected about what it is to be a lawyer, these seem to be more important skills.”
2009-11-13 · Desert Island Discs · Anthony Julius · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“This is a piece of music by De Busie. Again I started listening to Debussy in my late teens. This is three quartet which is wonderfully intelligent and clearly articulated.”
2009-11-13 · Desert Island Discs · Anthony Julius · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“No, I think he was only happy and proud. I don't want to overstate his anxiety, but I understand as a father now the anxiety of watching one's children grow up and become independent.”
2009-11-13 · Desert Island Discs · Anthony Julius · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Yes, I'd actually been working in one of the shops, and I came back with my father, and we found the telegram on the doorstep had been there all day, and I was tremendously excited but completely surprised, and I phoned my English master, who was very important to me, and still is, and I told him, and I told him how surprised I was, and he said, Well, you never, ever have a sense of what you can do. I was utterly taken aback.”
2009-11-13 · Desert Island Discs · Anthony Julius · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Would go into the business. I mean, I think he hoped for it, and I think he was disappointed when it became clear that certainly the older siblings were unlikely to go into the family business.”
2009-11-13 · Desert Island Discs · Anthony Julius · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“No, a bit about school and about my dad's business life, and we were brought up to think and talk about how the living was earned and what was involved in working and running a business.”
2009-11-13 · Desert Island Discs · Anthony Julius · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Yeah, my mother's a fantastic cook that she used to make. I used to go to school in the morning thinking about what I would eat that evening, which is probably not tremendously healthy. But anyway, it was always a high point of the day. And I think we appreciated it, and it meant that the meals took their time. And there was a lot of chat.”
2009-11-13 · Desert Island Discs · Anthony Julius · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“No, it wasn't actually and we all got on with what we wanted to do, but we were not competitive with each other, and we're still not.”
2009-11-13 · Desert Island Discs · Anthony Julius · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Oh flared, no bell bottom trousers my favourite ones had buttons metal studs up the sides of the flares Maroon leather boots with a zip up the side and a granny vest with those t shirts with three buttons, and I had shoulder length hair which was quite frizzy so it would fly in lots of different directions which I thought looked great.”
2009-11-13 · Desert Island Discs · Anthony Julius · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“It's an American rock band, jazz rock band. We used to be very precise then called Chicago and the opening is just thrilling and I remember being just so excited by it.”
2009-11-13 · Desert Island Discs · Anthony Julius · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“We were typical, I think Anglo Jews, that's to say we were not overburdened by theological anxieties or interests. We had broadly kosher home. It was a comfortable kind of faith, comparable to a certain kind of Anglicanism.”
2009-11-13 · Desert Island Discs · Anthony Julius · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“I am the oldest of four boys, and It was a lively, happy household my father worked very hard, very long hours, my mother kept the house and looked after us. We met for dinner every night.”
2009-11-13 · Desert Island Discs · Anthony Julius · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“I thought it was an indication of his own insecurity and anxiety that education would come between me and him. I sensed the anxiety, I didn't feel that it had any basis in reality, but I could see it worried him.”
2009-11-13 · Desert Island Discs · Anthony Julius · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“No, I don't I think he was actually he was a little frightened about it, he was a little intimidated by the thought that his son would take that path. I remember when I brought home my Cambridge University application form with great pride and excitement. He smiled quite wanly. I mean only kindly but said to me Don't grow away from the family and handed it back.”
2009-11-13 · Desert Island Discs · Anthony Julius · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“They were very good parents because they followed my enthusiasms, they didn't push me, so it was a kind of household where we weren't particularly encouraged to read, but once we, so to speak, declared our enthusiasm, we were then given all the support we needed to pursue it.”
2009-11-13 · Desert Island Discs · Anthony Julius · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“No, no, I mean about it. And it's not true that we were utterly weird. I didn't say that. No, but you did strongly imply it. We went to the proms and there were plenty of people of our age and we listened to other music too.”
2009-11-13 · Desert Island Discs · Anthony Julius · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“I was sitting in my friend Geoffrey's bedroom in Earl's Court, and I think at that point I was seventeen, and we'd both started probably completely wrongly smoking pipes. Let's just be clear, this is pipes.”
2009-11-13 · Desert Island Discs · Anthony Julius · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Vaum Williams was my really my first love. I used to listen to him with my very best friend at school, Geoffrey, from, I suppose, thirteen or fourteen, and this is one of the five mystical songs.”
2009-11-13 · Desert Island Discs · Anthony Julius · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“the outcome of the case. Apparently a number of people had complained true to my principle of not reading the papers. I did not see it, and then the legal director of the paper Foami and Cido, I mean who I knew, Anthony, a number of people have complained, what do you want us to do about it? So, well, let me read it first. And I read it. And he said, well, what do you think? I said, well, I don't know. It's up to you. It's not discreditable of me. It's discreditable of you. You must do what you think is right.”
2009-11-13 · Desert Island Discs · Anthony Julius · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Yes. It was a piece after we announced the divorce settlement, and the comment was that of course Diana got a good settlement because she was represented by a Jewish Labour Party supporter, an intellectual, of course even worse. The Western South Wall, yeah. Yes, Jewish intellectual who didn't understand principles of fair play, which was an interesting assessment of the”
2009-11-13 · Desert Island Discs · Anthony Julius · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“No, I don't. I don't have a carapace, in fact mostly I deal with it by not reading it. Right. That's the way I protect myself”
2009-11-13 · Desert Island Discs · Anthony Julius · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Well, I don't particularly like it, but I don't really spend any time thinking about it when I started acting for the Princess of Wales, I realized that the huge light that she shone everywhere would shine on me along with others that she had relationships with, and that inevitably I would look luminous, but that was an illusion.”
2009-11-13 · Desert Island Discs · Anthony Julius · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Yes, yes, I did, yes. I just, I had this sense that I wasn't good enough for the university and for the high standards that it expected.”
2009-11-13 · Desert Island Discs · Anthony Julius · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Well, since I was twelve or thirteen, I've just been absolutely passionate about English literature and the study of literature, and I thought that that's how I would spend my life teaching and writing.”
2009-11-13 · Desert Island Discs · Anthony Julius · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“I hope I didn't say that because that would be really embarrassing I'm quoting you directly I believe well then I'm embarrassed I don't know if there's anything Faustian about it really no what I felt was that I had betrayed a commitment”
2009-11-13 · Desert Island Discs · Anthony Julius · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Yes, I sold most of my books and walked off, which was a slightly histrionic gesture, I think, now that I look back on it. But in the end, it's all turned out quite well. It seems able to do both. But you called”
2009-11-13 · Desert Island Discs · Anthony Julius · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“This is a Beethoven pianist seminar, one of my good friends at university, was a fanatical listener, Mauritia Pellini, the Italian pianist. I had an old fashioned record player with an arm that went across and when it goes across it means that you can listen to a piece of music over and over again. So I listened to this piece of music 30 or 40 times in my room during the course of the day and it means a huge amount to me.”
2009-11-13 · Desert Island Discs · Anthony Julius · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Well, I mean grief has its own dynamic it was certainly a way in which I could give form to my sense of loss and perform one last service for her yes”
2009-11-13 · Desert Island Discs · Anthony Julius · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Diana's private secretary said to me, What shall we do with this money? Shall we give it to the charities? The princess supported. And I said, well, why don't we set up our own charity? In that way we can create a memorial to her which will live longer than the donations themselves. The next morning I went to see the charity commissioners and set up the charity and within a few weeks we had thirty forty million pounds. Most of the money donated actually by Elton John because he gave to us the rights of candle in the wind, but a large chunk of money also given by the public.”
2009-11-13 · Desert Island Discs · Anthony Julius · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source