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  1. “And I hope that through AI as humans reduce their biases, to me that represents a positive outlook towards the future, where AIs can all help us to Understand everything around us better.”

    2024-06-19 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #434 – Aravind Srinivas: Perplexity CEO on Future of AI, Search & the Internet · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source

  2. “Again, I'm kind of beating the drum here, but. For me, it's all about curiosity and knowledge. I think there are different ways to keep the light of consciousness. Preserving it. And we all can go about different paths. For us, it's about making sure that. It's even less about that sort of a thinking. I just think people are naturally curious. They want to ask questions and we want to serve that mission. Lot of confusion exists mainly because we just don't understand. We just don't understand a lot of things about other people or about just how world works. And if our understanding is better, we all are grateful, right? Oh, wow, I wish I got to that realization sooner. I would have made different decisions. My life would have been higher quality and better.”

    2024-06-19 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #434 – Aravind Srinivas: Perplexity CEO on Future of AI, Search & the Internet · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source

  3. “Think we don't have an AI coach. Where you can actually just go and talk to them. But wait, this is different from having AIASUTs keyword or something. It's almost like you get a, that's more like a great consulting session with one of the world's leading experts. But I'm talking about someone who's just constantly listening to you and you respect them and they're like almost like a performance coach for you. I think that's going to be amazing. And that's also different from an AI tutor. That's why different apps will serve different purposes. And I have a viewpoint of what are really useful. I'm okay with people disagreeing with this.”

    2024-06-19 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #434 – Aravind Srinivas: Perplexity CEO on Future of AI, Search & the Internet · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source

  4. “I would love personally that are trying to work with us to understand what we truly want out of life And guide us towards achieving it. That's less of a Samantha thing and more of a coach.”

    2024-06-19 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #434 – Aravind Srinivas: Perplexity CEO on Future of AI, Search & the Internet · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source

  5. “Least there is a science to it that we understand like what is truth at least to a certain extent we know that through our academic backgrounds like truth needs to be scientifically backed and like like peer reviewed and like a bunch of people have to agree on it sure I'm not saying it doesn't have its flaws and there are things that are widely debated but here I think like you can just appear Not to have any true emotional connection. So you can appear to have a true emotional connection, but not have anything. Do we have personal AIs that are truly representing our interest today? No.”

    2024-06-19 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #434 – Aravind Srinivas: Perplexity CEO on Future of AI, Search & the Internet · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source

  6. “Feels dangerous to me. The reason is that you can get short term dopamine hits from someone seemingly appearing to care for you.”

    2024-06-19 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #434 – Aravind Srinivas: Perplexity CEO on Future of AI, Search & the Internet · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source

  7. “So go build that like bots, like different fantasy fiction. I said, no, like I don't care. Maybe it's hard, but I want to walk the harder path.”

    2024-06-19 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #434 – Aravind Srinivas: Perplexity CEO on Future of AI, Search & the Internet · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source

  8. “That's my hope, right? But some of the things you mentioned could also happen. Like people building a deeper emotional connection with their AI chat bots or AI girlfriends or boyfriends can happen. And we're not focused on that sort of a company. From the beginning, I never wanted to build anything of that nature. Whether that can happen. In fact, I was even told by some investors You guys are focused on hallucination. Your product is such that hallucination is a bug. AIs are all about hallucinations. Why are you trying to solve that? Make money out of it. And hallucination is a feature in which product”

    2024-06-19 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #434 – Aravind Srinivas: Perplexity CEO on Future of AI, Search & the Internet · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source

  9. “I'm just talking about the Maslow's hierarchy of needs, right? And shelter and safety, security, but then the top is actualization and fulfillment. And I think that can come from pursuing your interests, having work feel like play, and building true connections with other fellow human beings and having an optimistic viewpoint about the future of the planet. Abundance of intelligence is a good thing. Abundance of knowledge is a good thing. And I think most zerosome mentality will go away when you feel like there's no real scarcity anymore.”

    2024-06-19 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #434 – Aravind Srinivas: Perplexity CEO on Future of AI, Search & the Internet · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source

  10. “But my hope is that in a world where work doesn't feel like work, like we can all engage in stuff that's truly interesting to us because we all have the help of AIs that help us do whatever we want to do really well and the cost of doing that is also not that high. How a much more fulfilling life. And that way, have a lot more time for other things and channelize that energy into building true connections.”

    2024-06-19 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #434 – Aravind Srinivas: Perplexity CEO on Future of AI, Search & the Internet · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source

  11. “Said, I don't want that to be the solution for humans seeking relationships and connections. I do see a world where we spend more time talking to AIs than other humans, at least at work time. It's easier not to bother your colleague with some questions since you just ask a tool. But I hope that gives us more time to build more relationships and connections with each other.”

    2024-06-19 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #434 – Aravind Srinivas: Perplexity CEO on Future of AI, Search & the Internet · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source

  12. “Possible, I mean, it's not, it's already like, you know, there are apps like Replica and Character.ai and the recent OpenAI that Samantha voiced, they demoed, where it feels like, are you really talking to it because it's smart or is it because it's very flirty? It's not clear. And Carpathi even had a tweet, like the Killer app was Carla Johansson, not code bots. It was tongue in cheek comment, like, you know, I don't think he really meant it, but Possible, like, you know, those kind of futures are also there, and like loneliness is one of the major problems in people.”

    2024-06-19 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #434 – Aravind Srinivas: Perplexity CEO on Future of AI, Search & the Internet · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source

  13. “So, I think curiosity makes humans special, and we want to cater to that. That's the mission of the company. And harness the power of AI in all these frontier models to serve that. And I believe in a world where even if we have even more capable cutting-edge AIs, Human curiosity is not going anywhere, and it's going to make humans even more special with all the additional power. They're going to feel even more empowered, even more curious, even more knowledgeable and truth-seeking. And it's going to lead to the beginning of infinity.”

    2024-06-19 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #434 – Aravind Srinivas: Perplexity CEO on Future of AI, Search & the Internet · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source

  14. “And maybe it will be useful, maybe not so much as advertise, but it's something that's on the cards. But when you truly have AGI systems that I think that's where memory becomes an essential component where it's lifelong, it knows when to put it into a separate database or data structure. It knows when to keep it in the prompt. And I like more efficient things systems that know when to take stuff in the prompt and put it somewhere else and retrieve when needed. I think that feels much more an efficient architecture than just constantly keeping increasing the context window. Like that feels like brute force to me at least.”

    2024-06-19 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #434 – Aravind Srinivas: Perplexity CEO on Future of AI, Search & the Internet · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source

  15. “And ask it to find something, it's probably going to be a lot more capable. And given that the existing solution is already so bad, I think this will feel much better, even though it has its issues. And the other thing that will be possible is memory, though not in the way people are thinking where I'm going to give it all my data and it's going to remember everything I did. But more that it feels like you don't have to keep reminding about yourself.”

    2024-06-19 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #434 – Aravind Srinivas: Perplexity CEO on Future of AI, Search & the Internet · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source

  16. “It's just having more entropy to deal with now and might even be worse. So I think that's important. And in terms of what new things it can do, I feel like it can do internal search a lot better. That's an area that nobody's really cracked. Like searching over your own files, like searching over Google Drive or Dropbox. The reason nobody cracked that is because the indexing that you need to build for that is very different nature than web indexing. And instead, if you can just have the entire thing dumped into your prompt.”

    2024-06-19 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #434 – Aravind Srinivas: Perplexity CEO on Future of AI, Search & the Internet · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source

  17. “It does in some ways. It doesn't matter in certain other ways. I think it lets you ingest more detailed versions of the pages while answering a question. But note that there's a trade-off between context size increase and the level of instruction following capability. So most people, when they advertise new context window increase, they talk a lot about finding the needle in the haystack sort of evaluation metrics and less about whether there's any degradation in the instruction following performance. So I think that's where you need to make sure that throwing more information at a model. Doesn't actually make it more confused.”

    2024-06-19 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #434 – Aravind Srinivas: Perplexity CEO on Future of AI, Search & the Internet · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source

  18. “Yeah, sometimes it just goes too far, gives you this. Oh, imagine you had this lemonade stand and you bought lemons. I don't want that level of analogy.”

    2024-06-19 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #434 – Aravind Srinivas: Perplexity CEO on Future of AI, Search & the Internet · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source

  19. “But I would love product to be where you just ask, give me an answer, like Feynman would explain this to me. Because Einstein has this quote, right? I don't even know if it's his code again. But it was a good code. You only truly understand something if you can explain it to your grandmom”

    2024-06-19 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #434 – Aravind Srinivas: Perplexity CEO on Future of AI, Search & the Internet · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source

  20. “I am pretty detailed. I'm actually wanting equations. And so I asked, give me equations, give me detail research of this, and understands that. So that's what we mean in the about page where. Is not possible with traditional search. You cannot customize the UI, you cannot customize the way the answer is given to you. It's like a one size fits all solution. That's why even in our marketing videos, we say we're not one size fits all. And neither are you. Like you, Lex would be more detailed and certain topics, but not on certain others”

    2024-06-19 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #434 – Aravind Srinivas: Perplexity CEO on Future of AI, Search & the Internet · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source

  21. “Human creator picks the audience, and then Ellen got it. Tries to do that. And you can already do that through your search string to me. I do that, by the way. I add that option a lot. Elephi it to me and it helps me a lot to like learn about new things that I especially noob in governance or like finance. I just don't understand simple investing terms, but I don't want to appear like a noob to investors. And so I didn't even know what an MOU means or LOI, all these things. They just throw acronyms. And I didn't know what a safe is simple agreement for future equity that Y Combinator came up with. I just needed these kind of tools to answer these questions for me. And at the same time, when I'm trying to learn something latest about LLMs, Say about the star paper.”

    2024-06-19 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #434 – Aravind Srinivas: Perplexity CEO on Future of AI, Search & the Internet · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source

  22. “Yeah, so we're trying to do that through pages where you can select the audience to be like expert or beginner and try to cater to that.”

    2024-06-19 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #434 – Aravind Srinivas: Perplexity CEO on Future of AI, Search & the Internet · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source

  23. “It's easier as a startup to work on all these things without having all these existing, like the drama is important for social apps because that's what drives engagement. Advertisers need you to show the engagement time.”

    2024-06-19 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #434 – Aravind Srinivas: Perplexity CEO on Future of AI, Search & the Internet · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source

  24. “A reason for that Twitter is great. It serves many things. There's like human drama in it. There's news. There's knowledge you gain. Some people just want the knowledge. Some people just want the news without any drama. And a lot of people have gone and tried to start other social networks for it. But the solution may not even be in starting another social app. Threads try to say, Oh, yeah, I want to start Twitter without all the drama, but that's not the answer The answer is as much as possible, try to cater to the human curiosity, but not the human drama.”

    2024-06-19 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #434 – Aravind Srinivas: Perplexity CEO on Future of AI, Search & the Internet · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source

  25. “Exactly. That's why on our Discover tab, we're building a timeline for your knowledge. Today is curated, but we want to get it to be personalized to you. Interesting news about every day. So we imagine a future where the entry point for a question doesn't need to just be from the search bar. Entry point for a question can be you listening or reading a page, listening to a page being read out to you, and you got curious about one element of it and you just asked the follow-up question to it. That's why I'm saying it's very important to understand your mission is not about changing the search. Your mission is about making people smarter and delivering knowledge. The way to do that Can start from anywhere, can start from you reading a page, it can start from you listening to an article.”

    2024-06-19 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #434 – Aravind Srinivas: Perplexity CEO on Future of AI, Search & the Internet · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source

  26. “So, I want more such things. This is just the start of something more where people can create research articles, blog posts, maybe even like a small book on a topic. If I have no understanding of search, let's say, and I wanted to start a search company, it'll be amazing to have a tool like this where I can just go and ask how does bots work, how to crawls work, what is ranking, what does BM25 in like. One hour of browsing session I got knowledge that's worth like one month of me talking to experts. To me, this is bigger than search or internet. It's about knowledge.”

    2024-06-19 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #434 – Aravind Srinivas: Perplexity CEO on Future of AI, Search & the Internet · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source

  27. “Jensen says this in his thing, right? That I do my one is to ends and I give feedback to one person in front of other people. Not because I want to put anyone down or up, but that. We can all learn from each other's experiences. Like, why should it be that only you get to learn from your mistakes? Other people can also learn another person can also learn from another person's success. So that was the insight that, okay, like, why couldn't you broadcast what you learned from one Q&A session on perplexity to the rest of the world?”

    2024-06-19 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #434 – Aravind Srinivas: Perplexity CEO on Future of AI, Search & the Internet · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source

  28. “I hope so. And even more than that, if we can. Change every person to be more truth seeking than before just because they are able to, just because they have the tools to. I think it'll lead to a better More knowledge and fundamentally more people are interested in fact checking and like uncovering things rather than just relying on other humans and what they hear from other people, which always can be like politicized or having ideologies. So I think that's sort of impact would be very nice to have. And I hope that's the internet we can create through the pages project we are working on. We are letting people create new articles without much human effort. And I hope that insight for that was your browsing session, your query that you asked on perplexity doesn't need to be just useful to you.”

    2024-06-19 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #434 – Aravind Srinivas: Perplexity CEO on Future of AI, Search & the Internet · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source

  29. “Like clearly explain to him the difference between search and answer engines. And so that's going to let you ask a new kind of question, new kind of knowledge dissemination. I just believe that we're working towards neither search or answer engine, but just discovery, knowledge discovery. That's a bigger mission. And that can be catered to through chatbots and server bots, voice form factor usage. But something bigger than that is like guiding people towards discovering things. I think that's what we want to work on at Perplexity, the fundamental human curiosity.”

    2024-06-19 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #434 – Aravind Srinivas: Perplexity CEO on Future of AI, Search & the Internet · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source

  30. “Google also started doing instant answers through the knowledge panels and things like that. I think even in 2010s, one-third of Google traffic, when it used to be like 3 billion queries a day, was just answers from instances to Google Knowledge Graph, which is basically from the free base and Wikidata stuff. So it was clear that at least 30 to 40 percent of search traffic is just answers, right? And even the rest, you can say deeper answers like what we're serving right now. But what is also true is that with the new power of deeper answers, deeper research, you're able to ask kind of questions that you couldn't ask before. Like, like, could you have asked questions like AWS? Is AWS all on Netflix without an answer box? It's very hard.”

    2024-06-19 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #434 – Aravind Srinivas: Perplexity CEO on Future of AI, Search & the Internet · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source

  31. “So if you zoom out before even the internet, it's always been about transmission of knowledge. That's a bigger thing than search. Search is one way to do it. The internet was a great way to disseminate knowledge faster Started off with organization by topics, Yahoo categorization. And then better organization of links, Google.”

    2024-06-19 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #434 – Aravind Srinivas: Perplexity CEO on Future of AI, Search & the Internet · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source

  32. “Yeah, it's more relatable. You can derive more inspiration. There are some people you just admire, but not really can get inspiration from them. And there are some people you can clearly connect dots to yourself and try to work towards that.”

    2024-06-19 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #434 – Aravind Srinivas: Perplexity CEO on Future of AI, Search & the Internet · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source

  33. “Similarly, like in tennis, there's another example, Novak Djokovic, controversial, not as like this Federer on a DAO actually ended up beating them. Like he's objectively the goat and did that by not starting off as the best.”

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  34. “That's the obsession part, and I Mr. Beast doesn't do AI or math, but he's obsessed and he worked hard to get to where he is. And I watched YouTube videos of him saying how all day he would just hang out and analyze YouTube videos, like watch patterns of what makes the views go up and study, study, study. That's the 10,000 hours of practice. Messi has this code, right? Maybe it's falsely attributed to him. He says internet, you can't believe what you read, but I became, I work for decades to become an overnight hero or something like that.”

    2024-06-19 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #434 – Aravind Srinivas: Perplexity CEO on Future of AI, Search & the Internet · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source

  35. “I mean, I remember when I told people I'm going to do a PhD, most people said PhD is a waste of time. If you go work at Google after you complete your undergraduate, you'll start off with a salary like 150k or something. But at the end of four or five years, you would have progressed to a senior or staff level and be earning a lot more. And instead, if you finish your PhD and join Google, you would start five years later at the entry-level salary. What's the point? But they viewed life like that. Little did they realize that, no, like you're optimizing with a discount factor that's like equal to one or not factor that's close to zero.”

    2024-06-19 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #434 – Aravind Srinivas: Perplexity CEO on Future of AI, Search & the Internet · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source

  36. “And hang out with a lot of people who are driving you to be better and guiding you to be better, not necessarily people who are, oh yeah, what's the point doing this?”

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  37. “Yeah, you can work incredibly hard. And if there's anything I regret about my earlier years, there were at least a few weekends where I just literally watched YouTube videos and did nothing”

    2024-06-19 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #434 – Aravind Srinivas: Perplexity CEO on Future of AI, Search & the Internet · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source

  38. “The way this goes into the whole, what do you really want, right? Some people don't want to work hard. And I don't want to make any point here that says a life where you don't work hard is meaningless. I don't think that's true either. But if there is a certain idea that really just occupies your mind all the time, it's worth making your life about that idea and living for it, at least in your late. Teens in the early 20s, mid 20s, because that's the time when you get You know that decade, or like that 10,000 hours of practice on something. That can be channelized into something else later. And it's really worth doing that.”

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  39. “Be worth it. At least there's this minimal regret framework of Bezos that says, at least when you die, you die with the feeling that you tried.”

    2024-06-19 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #434 – Aravind Srinivas: Perplexity CEO on Future of AI, Search & the Internet · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source

  40. “Interestingly, Larry Page comes from the background. Human computer interaction. Like, that's what helped him arrive at new insights. Search than like people who are just working on NL I think that's another thing I realized that. New insights, and people are able to make new connections are. Likely to be a good founder.”

    2024-06-19 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #434 – Aravind Srinivas: Perplexity CEO on Future of AI, Search & the Internet · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source

  41. “I remember watching your very early podcast with Eric Schmidt. It was done when I was a PhD student in Berkeley, where you would just keep digging him the final part of the podcast was like, Tell me what it takes to start the next Google. I was like, oh, look at this guy who was asking the same questions I would like to ask.”

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  42. “Yeah, I mean, that's why all founders are deluded in the beginning at least. If you actually rolled out model-based RL, if you actually rolled out scenarios, most of the branches, you would conclude that it's going to be failure. There's a scene in the Avengers movie where this guy comes and says out of one million possibilities, like I found one path where we could survive. That's kind of how startups are.”

    2024-06-19 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #434 – Aravind Srinivas: Perplexity CEO on Future of AI, Search & the Internet · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source

  43. “Serve millions of people through your product every day. It's not easy. Not many people get to that point. So be aware that it's good fortune and work hard on trying to sustain it and keep growing it.”

    2024-06-19 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #434 – Aravind Srinivas: Perplexity CEO on Future of AI, Search & the Internet · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source

  44. “I think you need to figure out your own way to cope and have your own support system, or else it's impossible to do this. I have a very good support system through my family. My wife is insanely supportive of this journey. It's almost like she cares equally about perplexity as I do. Uses the product as much or even more, gives me a lot of feedback and like any setbacks that she's already like, you know, Warning me of potential blind spots. And I think that really helps. Doing anything great requires suffering and dedication. You can call it, like Jensen calls it suffering. I just call it like, you know, commitment and dedication. And you're not doing this just because you want to make money, but you really think this will matter. And it's almost like it's a Aware that it's a good fortune to be in a position to like.”

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  45. “And so start from an idea you Sure, it's a product you use and test. And market will guide you towards making it a lucrative business by its own capitalistic pressure. But don't start in the other way where you started from an idea that the market you think the market likes and try to like it yourself because eventually you'll give up or you'll be supplanted by somebody who actually has genuine passion for that thing.”

    2024-06-19 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #434 – Aravind Srinivas: Perplexity CEO on Future of AI, Search & the Internet · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source

  46. “Of knowledge based on your browsing activity. So we were all already obsessed about knowledge and search. So very easy for us to work on this without any immediate dopamine hits because dopamine hit we get just from seeing search quality improve. If you're not a person that gets that and you really only get dopamine hits from making money It's hard to work on hard problems. So you need to know what your dopamine system is. Where do you get your dopamine from? Truly understand yourself. And that's what will give you the founder market or founder product fit.”

    2024-06-19 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #434 – Aravind Srinivas: Perplexity CEO on Future of AI, Search & the Internet · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source

  47. “But thinking, okay, like, look, this is what will get me venture funding. This is what will get me revenue or customers. That's what will get me venture funding. If you work from that perspective, I think you'll give up beyond the point because it's very hard to work towards something that was not truly Important to you Do you really care? And we work on search. I really obsess about search even before starting perplexity. My co-founder, Dennis, first job was at Bing. And then my co-founders, Dennis and Johnny worked at Cora together. And they built Cora Digest, which is basically interesting threads every day.”

    2024-06-19 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #434 – Aravind Srinivas: Perplexity CEO on Future of AI, Search & the Internet · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source

  48. “Think, like, you know, all the traditional wisdom applies. I'm not going to say none of that matters, like relentless. Determination Believing in yourself and others don't, all these things matter. So if you don't have these traits, I think it's definitely hard to do a company. But You desiring to do a company despite all this clearly means you have it or you think you have it either way you can fake it till you have it I think the thing that most people get wrong after they've decided to start a company is work on things they think the market wants Like not being passionate about any idea”

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  49. “How do you represent knowledge in a much more efficient abstract way? and make reasoning more a thing that is iterative and parameter decoupled.”

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  50. “Right now, it seems like that's where things are headed in terms of whoever is really competing on the AGI race, like the frontier models. But any breakthrough can disrupt that. If you can decouple reasoning and facts and end up with much smaller mottos that can reason really well, You don't need a million H100s equivalent cluster.”

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