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Audie Cornish

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“For me, it's funny you guys brought up paint by numbers because I often make these little kits activity kits for my kids so that if we go to a restaurant or if we're in the car, that's what they get handed. They don't get handed in iPad. I never pay for the cellular anyway, so it wouldn't work. But one of the recent things I found for the kit was a little game called Tangos, which is a little geometry game that has a bunch of like squares and triangles. Oh, I remember this when I was a kid. Exactly. You're supposed to form them into various shapes to solve the puzzle. And it's a kind of thing where like you put it in front of a kid and they're like, oh, what is this? And then next thing you turn around. Yeah, oh, magnetiles are huge in our house. But all of a sudden there's silence, right? And you look over and they're there like trying to figure this thing out. And it is like travel size. So shout out to Tangos. I don't know who still even makes it.”
2026-06-01 · On with Kara Swisher · Audie Cornish and Ari Shapiro on Friendship, Feeds and Their New Podcast · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Yeah, like students having none of it. Yeah, but you're not stupid for wanting to do this work. That's how I was approaching it, you know?”
2026-06-01 · On with Kara Swisher · Audie Cornish and Ari Shapiro on Friendship, Feeds and Their New Podcast · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Oh, yeah, I didn't know that was a thing. That was a thing. I didn't know. I was like, no, this is coming for you. And there are bosses that are going to have you training it to take your job. Like, yeah, it's grim right now.”
2026-06-01 · On with Kara Swisher · Audie Cornish and Ari Shapiro on Friendship, Feeds and Their New Podcast · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“I was also speaking to students in fairness. So these were people who were their freshmen, their sophomore, and they are still going into journalism. And so they're really like looking at me being not like why, you know what I mean? Because they still want to do it. Right. They're kind of like will there be a place for me”
2026-06-01 · On with Kara Swisher · Audie Cornish and Ari Shapiro on Friendship, Feeds and Their New Podcast · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“And I think human beings do have the capacity still to be unpredictable. And I feel like AI is unpredictable and predictable ways. Again, maybe that'll change. It'll be so amazing. But I just don't think it's an accident that no matter how many new media come along, we all find a way to talk to each other directly. Right.”
2026-06-01 · On with Kara Swisher · Audie Cornish and Ari Shapiro on Friendship, Feeds and Their New Podcast · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“I will just say that the seeds of what to do are already there. We saw something like The Tiny Desk Concert that hit at the right time in the right medium in the right way. Right. They have the building blocks for doing things.”
2026-06-01 · On with Kara Swisher · Audie Cornish and Ari Shapiro on Friendship, Feeds and Their New Podcast · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Challenge. I'll only add to that, like if there's one thing where a public meeting people are well positioned to do, it's ask you to subscribe, which is pretty much the environment right now. So it's really more everyone else has moved to our model. And I think, yeah, NPR is like, it's working it out”
2026-06-01 · On with Kara Swisher · Audie Cornish and Ari Shapiro on Friendship, Feeds and Their New Podcast · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Yeah, all right, you have to take this because for me, it's been a couple years now, and I wasn't there for the real Rock of the Boat.”
2026-06-01 · On with Kara Swisher · Audie Cornish and Ari Shapiro on Friendship, Feeds and Their New Podcast · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Yeah, exactly. So I'm not chicken little. You know, it's pretty much like, okay, well, let's do this, whatever's coming next, great.”
2026-06-01 · On with Kara Swisher · Audie Cornish and Ari Shapiro on Friendship, Feeds and Their New Podcast · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“I'm not the person I was three years ago where I was literally like, how can I do anything? How am I going to pay a mortgage? The landscape has changed. The world is littered with little cable news hosts who have created other lives for themselves.”
2026-06-01 · On with Kara Swisher · Audie Cornish and Ari Shapiro on Friendship, Feeds and Their New Podcast · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Yes, I mean, I saw this go around in circles around Oscar time in the Hollywood press where it was complaining about how who owned all of the trade. And how did that affect the campaigning? That's like TikTokers were talking about that, you know, just being like, oh, don't believe this campaign because the papers are owned by this and blah, blah, blah in this studio. And so I'm not here like weeping and wailing, basically. It's like full speed ahead, doing the work and connecting with the people who you want.”
2026-06-01 · On with Kara Swisher · Audie Cornish and Ari Shapiro on Friendship, Feeds and Their New Podcast · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Exactly. There are so many. So I hopped on the train with a lot of warriors who have been through it. And it has made, I took that one really hard because I just was like, what am I doing? Why did I come here? Is this industry dying? Like, what a mistake I made. But like NPR is struggling. This is struggling. Like MS now went through a transition. Like everybody is struggling. And what gives me hope is that the audience sees it, recognizes it, is pissed and is willing to talk about it publicly. Whereas it's not some like backpage business thing where people are kind of like who cares who owns what it's like, oh wow, actually a lot of people seem to care who owns what and they're talking about it.”
2026-06-01 · On with Kara Swisher · Audie Cornish and Ari Shapiro on Friendship, Feeds and Their New Podcast · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“I come at this having survived a merger, like my introduction to corporate media from the EPP. Yeah, it was quite literally, you know, the sale and the purchase of CNN by.”
2026-06-01 · On with Kara Swisher · Audie Cornish and Ari Shapiro on Friendship, Feeds and Their New Podcast · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Do you see how this woman tries to get me into trouble? Okay. Bringing up people I've never even heard of. Like, what is she even saying right now?”
2026-06-01 · On with Kara Swisher · Audie Cornish and Ari Shapiro on Friendship, Feeds and Their New Podcast · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Yeah, and I get, I'm certainly nervous about it, but I'm nervous about everything, you know, and I think that at a certain point you have to take a leap, but we're not two celebrities interviewing each other, which is a genre. Sometimes I'm like, it's a club. We're not in it. And yes, there are people who want to be a fly on the wall for that. But I don't want to listen to a celebrity interview where the celebrity has final cut. That's for someone, not me. Yeah. I don't want to be trying to catch every joke and reference between two people who genuinely don't know we're there, like are conducting the conversation as though nobody else can hear it And we're not there to just randomly bring people on. There's not going to be interviewing for interviewing sake.”
2026-06-01 · On with Kara Swisher · Audie Cornish and Ari Shapiro on Friendship, Feeds and Their New Podcast · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“I'm very nervous, right? Like now I'm suddenly just being judged on whether or not I'm a good hang, right? Like That is a different schematic.”
2026-06-01 · On with Kara Swisher · Audie Cornish and Ari Shapiro on Friendship, Feeds and Their New Podcast · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“I am very proud of what I accomplished on the assignment because we ended up being nominated for Webby's literally with you. You know what I mean? And like you had an audience and do have an audience that was orders of magnitude larger. But we had a to me a hard won audience of like real people. You know what I mean? It's not like we could go out and buy a bunch of bots or something like that. It was like these people really listened and they listened all the way to the end. But in that case, it's because it was service oriented. They like spending time with me. They like the way I delivered news stories, but I also was bringing them someone that they never had heard from before. They had never heard from the doctors who provide gender-affirming care. They had not heard from people who had actually survived a police brutality stop. They hadn't heard from the paparazzi out of it, like reporters out of LA who understood why Harry and Megan were a thing. It was a service.”
2026-06-01 · On with Kara Swisher · Audie Cornish and Ari Shapiro on Friendship, Feeds and Their New Podcast · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Can we just have a moment of silence for this amazing person who said this to you? Yeah. And let's just spread that message throughout the land. Like when you're a keyboard warrioring, just know. Chill out, okay? It's fine. Let's listen to the elders on this one.”
2026-06-01 · On with Kara Swisher · Audie Cornish and Ari Shapiro on Friendship, Feeds and Their New Podcast · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“I mean, I'm not trying to be special. There's no oppression. I'm just saying, I don't want to know them. You want to write me and say something mean.”
2026-06-01 · On with Kara Swisher · Audie Cornish and Ari Shapiro on Friendship, Feeds and Their New Podcast · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Pretty much says it all. We're not foreign to the idea of the relationship. In fact, we're here because we want the relationship to be closer. And there were things that we did in recent years that didn't put us closer. And now that we have the choice, we're doing that.”
2026-06-01 · On with Kara Swisher · Audie Cornish and Ari Shapiro on Friendship, Feeds and Their New Podcast · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“And what was more parasocial than NPR nerd them? You know what I mean? Totally. Yeah. It's not like being a fan of the New York Times or Time magazine or something. People knew the person on a beat. People would come up to you and be like, have you met Sylvia Pajoli? It's like.”
2026-06-01 · On with Kara Swisher · Audie Cornish and Ari Shapiro on Friendship, Feeds and Their New Podcast · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Cara, you basically could run a pledge drive. I mean, it's pretty much the same conversation, you know. And I think that in radio, that is literally how we approach things. I know people are talking about, you know, NPR leakage dry or something, but like, it was a cultural phenomenon for a reason. It spoke to people's cultural interest. But it almost, that conversation, what you're saying, doesn't feel relative to where we are now, you know what I mean? We've been in this so long that we've now seen the thing we grow up with become the new thing, you know, like all of a sudden you do want things long again. Great. You know what I mean? Like, but now we can make the choice instead of something being imposed on us because this is just what it is. We can decide what we're offering people. And to your point, yeah, maybe people will be like, I don't want 30 minutes. I want three hours. And it's like, great. But for now, I think it's okay in a world where you can do anything to actually make a decision about what it is you want to do and what it is.”
2026-06-01 · On with Kara Swisher · Audie Cornish and Ari Shapiro on Friendship, Feeds and Their New Podcast · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“I'm sure, yeah, exactly. I'm sure we'll get there, but it's taking a minute. If anything, just yeah, being like, is it okay to make a hot dog or is it okay to make something else? Is it okay to make something other than vegetables? It's like I'm still giving myself permission to do that”
2026-06-01 · On with Kara Swisher · Audie Cornish and Ari Shapiro on Friendship, Feeds and Their New Podcast · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“I do. I do. I'm just not sure I'll get there since, as we talked about, I don't even know how to swear in public yet. Right. It's just sort of.”
2026-06-01 · On with Kara Swisher · Audie Cornish and Ari Shapiro on Friendship, Feeds and Their New Podcast · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Where we and someone else who is also very smart hashed out a bunch of fun ideas and made jokes, and I never once looked at Karen thought, wow, she's really given us vegetables here. Right, right. Even though you completely brought all of your knowledge of the tech industry.”
2026-06-01 · On with Kara Swisher · Audie Cornish and Ari Shapiro on Friendship, Feeds and Their New Podcast · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Exactly. No, that's the thing. I don't think that's right. I mean, there's no vegetables here. You know what I mean? Like this, I enjoy vegetables. Well, I mean, let's think about it this way. Carrie, you and I did do a pilot of something.”
2026-06-01 · On with Kara Swisher · Audie Cornish and Ari Shapiro on Friendship, Feeds and Their New Podcast · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“There's we've smuggled in an idea, you know what I mean, even under the joke. Yeah. And I think that's how I'm approaching it. Whereas what Steve's describing is, of course, far more relevant to my life as a morning show anchor doing political news, like literally this morning I had one of those conversations where I said to the guest after, I don't want people to hate you for your worst take. I want them to hate you for your best take. So when I present the question to you this way, it's not a gotcha. I'm trying to figure out like, what's the through line? What's the logic? And so all that work I'm doing, it's like I'm kind of doing it Elsewhere. This is not the show for that, you know, and I don't feel the pressure to do that here.”
2026-06-01 · On with Kara Swisher · Audie Cornish and Ari Shapiro on Friendship, Feeds and Their New Podcast · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Like them coming to me and taking the time. Like, I'm just done trying that. I'm just trying to be in as many places at once. And I always make sure everything on the plate is edible. So even in the jokey thing.”
2026-06-01 · On with Kara Swisher · Audie Cornish and Ari Shapiro on Friendship, Feeds and Their New Podcast · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“I'm in a different place because I've spent the last couple years instead of fighting this trend, just simply literally going with the flow. So like I've done hits on TV, I now have a morning show. I've done social stuff. I've done YouTube only stuff. I mean, Carrie, you and I have piloted stuff. It's like I'm constantly just going to where the audience is and just be like, hi, have you thought of this? Hi, have you thought of that instead of being like, how can I figure out?”
2026-06-01 · On with Kara Swisher · Audie Cornish and Ari Shapiro on Friendship, Feeds and Their New Podcast · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“I'll tell you why my theory about Kara is Kara treats men the way men treat women so occasionally she has to remind him I am not your actual work wife. Yes, exactly. I'm a person with ideas and stop talking.”
2026-06-01 · On with Kara Swisher · Audie Cornish and Ari Shapiro on Friendship, Feeds and Their New Podcast · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Like, who has the time? A lot of peek bosses. I know, but it's just like every, there's a million podcasts to listen to. I only listen to Karis Swisher podcast. There's not a lot of time. Because we do a tight therapy. There's a million Karis podcasts. Because we're doing a type 30 never. And then be like, we're good. I wash the dishes. Okay, we're good. I walk the dog amazing. Never a tight 30 from Scott Galloway. I'm sorry.”
2026-06-01 · On with Kara Swisher · Audie Cornish and Ari Shapiro on Friendship, Feeds and Their New Podcast · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“I do think there was one at one point for sure. I do think it's dead now, but I think the pursuit of it is so strong because people still have a desire to connect to each other. So there is still this sense of like, I'm not just going to watch this reality show reunion. I'm going to film myself reacting to it, upload it, and it's going to join these, you know, stream of other sort of pop culture salmon. And like, we're all going to force a watercolor moment, even if that's not how this thing is built anymore. So I do feel people still wanting that. And also, I respect people's time. Like, I don't have time to be read in and all this truly random stuff. And it's really nice. I want to make something for someone like me who's like, you're busy. You care about culture. You generally know stuff. But like.”
2026-06-01 · On with Kara Swisher · Audie Cornish and Ari Shapiro on Friendship, Feeds and Their New Podcast · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“That's the Foge and Kara Swish I don't mind that. But it's like we're not geese with whose livers need fattening. Like they just pump all this stuff out and it can be manipulated. Even now, the whole conversation around clips and that to me, I'm like, okay, I've seen this movie before. And guess what? We are one dude with a shake conversation from someone being like, actually, that's not the thing anymore, you know, it's a little bit like if anyone out there is old enough to remember the whiz when the wizard is like the color of the day is X, this is how they treat us. As consumers and as people who make the content. And part of this show was being like, let's really mine this and figure out if this is a thing, why it's a thing, and then if it's a thing.”
2026-06-01 · On with Kara Swisher · Audie Cornish and Ari Shapiro on Friendship, Feeds and Their New Podcast · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Did I say all that? That sounds very smart, steeply nerdy. Again, I was trying to be professional. I was trying not to be like, I hate these dudes. That's my job.”
2026-06-01 · On with Kara Swisher · Audie Cornish and Ari Shapiro on Friendship, Feeds and Their New Podcast · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Exactly. Like all those, I do the same thing. I'm like, yeah, feed, user, like just everything about it, content. It's just, they hate us. Like, I really just think tech companies hate us. They think we're suckers. And I don't like that if your eyes flick towards like a parakeet puking, now you're going to get 5,000 parakeets puking. I despise this.”
2026-06-01 · On with Kara Swisher · Audie Cornish and Ari Shapiro on Friendship, Feeds and Their New Podcast · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Yeah, I'm obsessed with this because I'm doing this kind of show to jailbreak the algorithm. I hate the for you page. My kingdom for an actual search that works. I don't like the word feed. Like everything about the way they have structured social media in the last 10 to 15 years bothers me deeply. You know, the only word.”
2026-06-01 · On with Kara Swisher · Audie Cornish and Ari Shapiro on Friendship, Feeds and Their New Podcast · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“It's kind of silly season, right? And even little kids know how to text and how to add someone to the group chat. So no lessons learned. Whereas something like the horror movie story is also a story of like independent creation. Are we going to see a 90-style era indie boom just because they can do it on YouTube? Okay, we're about to find out and horror is the right vehicle for that. It's over and over again. We're mostly reverse engineering. We're mostly being like, why is this? A thing like why? We know that it is a thing. Protein is a thing, but untangling the MAGA masculinity, diet culture.”
2026-06-01 · On with Kara Swisher · Audie Cornish and Ari Shapiro on Friendship, Feeds and Their New Podcast · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Oh, that won't make it easy. We actually like a great example is the time that someone got put in the signal chat with the White House, right? The Atlantic and Jeffrey Goldberg. That's like a great story that I think in a typical newsroom is kind of already doing. And like, are there jokes to be made about like texting and all that stuff? Maybe. But. There's no greater story there, you know what I mean, that we can say to people, and here's how this intersects with your life”
2026-06-01 · On with Kara Swisher · Audie Cornish and Ari Shapiro on Friendship, Feeds and Their New Podcast · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“I mean, the MMA fight, like I'm into it, but it's more like, you know, Ari and I like, we just, it's not worth it. It's like we're both covered bigger things. And all we want to do now is you can even see our postures like sort of more relaxed. And we're kind of like, hey, like we're going to break character for a bit and just talk.”
2026-06-01 · On with Kara Swisher · Audie Cornish and Ari Shapiro on Friendship, Feeds and Their New Podcast · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“They don't exactly have real conflict with each other. They are actually friends and they perform this wrestling-like thing. We're not doing any of that. This is like a pretense-free situation.”
2026-06-01 · On with Kara Swisher · Audie Cornish and Ari Shapiro on Friendship, Feeds and Their New Podcast · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Yes. And to your point, you and I have talked about this as well that sometimes there's, let's just say there's some people performing in those spaces.”
2026-06-01 · On with Kara Swisher · Audie Cornish and Ari Shapiro on Friendship, Feeds and Their New Podcast · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“We definitely disagree on things. I think the difference is because we sort of came up together, we professionally, part of our work was to come up and work conflicting ideas. So it's this odd thing we're having been reporters. You're constantly looking at each other and being like, is this a thing? Is this a thing? And then someone says, no, it's not. And you're not like, oh, man, I hate you. You know what I mean? You're not like, screw you. I can't believe you said that. You're like, okay, I guess let me figure it out. So I think in a way, we're almost like workshopping the ideas in real time. And I think we feel very comfortable being like, nope, that's not it because we've actually had to do that like in front of a room of producers.”
2026-06-01 · On with Kara Swisher · Audie Cornish and Ari Shapiro on Friendship, Feeds and Their New Podcast · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“It's not really me, and yet in my personal life, I curse up a storm. You know what I mean? There's still a little bit of a curtain there where I'm like, there's a version of me I still want for myself.”
2026-06-01 · On with Kara Swisher · Audie Cornish and Ari Shapiro on Friendship, Feeds and Their New Podcast · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“It just really between meeting you, between doing the job, between really just being like, well, wait a second, who are you hiding from? I am more myself. Now, will I ever get to FBOM territory? Well, that isn't really.”
2026-06-01 · On with Kara Swisher · Audie Cornish and Ari Shapiro on Friendship, Feeds and Their New Podcast · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Has it become me? Right? Have you calcified into this thing that you put on? And I would argue, you may not believe this, Kara, but I am more myself in these moments on camera than I ever was ironically off camera.”
2026-06-01 · On with Kara Swisher · Audie Cornish and Ari Shapiro on Friendship, Feeds and Their New Podcast · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Well, part of it is the contract of upward mobility for black Americans is explicitly shaving off and shaving down some of yourself. Very true. So that everybody, meaning white people, feel safe. And I think I was raised, I went to a busing program. I was raised in Massachusetts. So, you know, I was sort of uniquely positioned to navigate some of these newsrooms, right? And then the flip side of that is then you're like, well, wait a second, is this really me? What am I really trying to accomplish here? Who am I?”
2026-06-01 · On with Kara Swisher · Audie Cornish and Ari Shapiro on Friendship, Feeds and Their New Podcast · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Yeah, were you the next so and so, or were you not as good as so and so? And so you actually weren't really rewarded for being yourself. And that's why I think you saw so many personalities. Let's just take a really early one, Ira Glass. Leave, right? Because it's like you can be the next Noah Adams, or you can go off and be yourself. And I think that all of a sudden we looked around and we saw a marketplace where people were incentivized to be themselves without having to be like a shock jock. You know what I mean? Like, right.”
2026-06-01 · On with Kara Swisher · Audie Cornish and Ari Shapiro on Friendship, Feeds and Their New Podcast · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“I will say no, no, here's where I want to talk about this Ari because I think when you mentioned earlier about. What we were doing in the past, it was always a game of comparison. You weren't just yourself, you were sitting next to the person that helped found the company's sound. Right. You know, it was like you were never just you.”
2026-06-01 · On with Kara Swisher · Audie Cornish and Ari Shapiro on Friendship, Feeds and Their New Podcast · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Or when I do, it works right. Like what makes you and Scott work is the same thing that makes this work, which is like there is overlap, but that overlap is not a circle. And even the jokes about like when you were talking about bottoming or whatever, it's like I'm coming at that as like, oh, the straights and he's coming at it like, oh, here we go.”
2026-06-01 · On with Kara Swisher · Audie Cornish and Ari Shapiro on Friendship, Feeds and Their New Podcast · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“But he can listen to that if you've never even glanced at a reality show. You're not defunct. Yeah, like that actually is not that easy to do. And most pop culture podcasts and most culture TV, whatever, it's very insidery. It's like unless you're locked into that topic, it's not really for you. Eventually, you can get caught up, but it's all like,”
2026-06-01 · On with Kara Swisher · Audie Cornish and Ari Shapiro on Friendship, Feeds and Their New Podcast · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT