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  1. Who led this $31 million round. But this company is a Y combinator company. There is a belief in the market that Y combinator companies who get that 500K, something's not working, they get a bit desperate. There's a bit of a hacker culture there. These are all sort of what they optimize for. And they want people who are rule breakers. They're kind of upfront about that. And Paul Graham came up with the question. I don't know what the question is on the application. Give us an example of things you packed. And Sam Altman was one of those people who they thought fit this mold. Now, of course, we just got over a trial with Sam Altman and there's all these allegations that he's not trustworthy by his former co-partners put it all aside. They optimize for that type of person. If you don't get product market fit, the best way to get product market.

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  2. You've met with a venture firm, and a venture firm has backed a company from Y Combinator with $30 million. You've been funded with $10 million according to a post that I read had met with that firm. That firm had passed.

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  3. Wow, it's such a fascinating business. So that would be for robotics in a real world model building is, hey, we need 10,000 people taking out the trash and we're willing to pay for that. And how else are you going to get it? So people have. Had varying degrees of enthusiasm for these businesses. We have one, micro one that we incubated. It's doing phenomenal. And I think it's a never-ending business because models are constantly going to need data and they need. Quality data, verified data, bespoke data, and they need to make sure that they're not breaking any IP laws. And so you as the middlemen for these are responsible for that cohort. Okay, so you wake up one day.

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  4. So, this is the wrinkle. It's really more like Micro One, one of our portfolio companies, or Scale AI, where you can say to somebody, hey, we have an LLM. You would abstract who the LLM is, but let's say it was OpenAI. And they want to study people who play video games because they want to have better video game content or they want to study people who shop on Amazon and Walmart. You say, hey, we're going to collect your data for that. I assume you do that with a browser plugin or you do it with an app, a desktop.

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  5. So, to explain in plain English, there has always been this desire for people to reverse the meta model. Meta collects our information by providing free services like Facebook, Instagram, and WhatsApp. They collect your data. You get paid nothing. You get a free product in return. You get to share your images unlimited to your friends. You don't have to pay for it. But they collect your data. You get nothing from that. They resell your data to anyone who will pay them anything for it. Your idea was, hey, let's get people to upload their data and then you can then resell it and you give them a portion of what you get paid.

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  6. Yeah, San Antonio is like top 10. I guess it's in population, but yeah. So, yeah, Austin, I think, is tier two. I think we're at a million here in population. All right, we have another guest. Let's get to work.

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  7. Absolutely. I mean, I live in Washington, a tier one city or a tier two. I guess it's a million people now. Is it tier two?

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  8. Well, no, it sounds like a major city And then there's whatever minor cities. What do we say? No, no, no, tier two. One, two, three.

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  9. 2,000 hours a year, if it was, yeah, if it's $2,000 times $20 an hour is 40, and this is 36. So it's like whatever it is, $16 an hour or something. So it's a great deal for them. Athena has a little bit of margin in there, but not crazy. And go ahead and try to hire somebody who's a professional who wants to do this kind of like what would seemingly for an American be tedious boom. Nannies right now minimum in a major city. I know in San Francisco it's 50 bucks an hour. Minimum.

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  10. There's my Yes, I'm glad that you're glad that you reminded me to share this tip because I give this tip to my friends when they're like, hey, I got an Athena assistant. I heard you talk about it. Go to AthenaWow.com as well. Just AthenaWow.com. I think after us talking about it on all in and talking about it on this week and startups, they've started to build up their inventory. So if you were somebody who was on a wait list, if you go to my URL, they'll move you up the wait list because you're a friend of JCAL's.

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  11. Get an executive assistant in a major city in America, it's 100 to 150K. Why? Because the people who take that job are like, nobody wants to be of service and do this job anymore, what used to be a secretary, then became an executive assistant. They just people don't want that job. And if they do take it, they only take that job, Alex, as a springboard to the next job. So you lose them every 18 months, which then needs to retrain.

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  12. Could I do this with an agent? No An Athena assistant who knows how to use egentic technology and knows how to use these software, they become superhuman. And all I have to do is explain it to them once. I look at the work, I iterate, explain it to them once, a little bit of work, iterate. That has led to my travel being cheaper, better, and just so deaf. I would never ask an American assistant to do this kind of lunacy because they would look at me and be like, that's completely inefficient. But I have extra hours for my Athena assistant. So I say to my Athena assistant, I want to fill those hours. They want the work. Them being a little inefficient is no big deal because the arbitrage between what they're getting paid in the Philippines and what an American who will not take the job here. I couldn't find people who take the executive assistant job.

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  13. Do it for 500 and we book it. That saves me the cost of the Athena assistant per year. Let that sink in. If you travel 100 days and you save a certain amount of money per day, it adds up. The same thing with the travel costs of the flights. Finding these different routes. Then when I go to the city, I like to go to the best restaurant. So I told them, this is the places to look for the best restaurants. Here's how Instagram works. And then what I want you to do is when I go to that city, I want you to book me a 530 and a 730 dinner reservation for the entire five days. I'm there every day in the afternoon. Ask me which one I plan on going to and we'll cancel the other. And sometimes I get charged 10 bucks ahead if I do it too short. I'm happy to pay it to the restaurant. This has made travel so easy for me.

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  14. Use Claude or OpenAI, whatever you want, to search through content travel and leisure, ETA, Monaco magazine, the New York Times Travel. I gave them, these are the places to look for stuff. So then go rank them, give me my options, call them on the phone, get the best price, then tell me what the prices are. Then when I tell you, call them up and say, hey, we're coming to Singapore. We'd like to stay here. We're going to be here for five days. I'm booking. Can you match the price? We had four options of hotels we gave to this executive, the executive being me. And I know this sounds crazy. Like, why are you trying to save money? Well, we should always try to save money. I said, hey, just call them on the phone and say, hey, we have a rate of $400 at this hotel. You're charging $600. Wondering if you could match the 400 price or come a little closer for a five-day stay? Nine times out of time. They're like, of course, we'll do it for 450.

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  15. Right, I'm a big fan of Athena. Athena gives you a virtual assistant, right? $3,000 a month. You got an assistant. They work on whatever time zone you're on. I travel a lot, right? And so I have to book a lot of travel. So I made a travel playbook for myself. What I do now is whenever there is a potential travel, I have instructed them, these are the airlines in which order I like to fly. This is the pricing. If something is within 20%, there's no reason for me not to take my preferred carrier, which happens to be United right now. They're like the best out of Austin. Then I have the hotels I like and the type of hotels I like. Now I like hotels that are funky, interesting, hip, designer. I like them in a certain price range. And so I told them, hey, use Monocle.

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  16. Then the founders are like, Are we still doing that? Is it at a billion in profits yet? Oh, it's at 500 billion in profits or it's, let's say it's at the amount Mercury is at. Oh, it's doing 650 million. It's got a 10, 20, 30% margin, whatever it happens to be. I don't know. They were like, okay, that's incredibly boring. I guess we should just reassign those 30, 40, 50 engineers to make people click on search ads a little bit more. Let's put them on Google Flights or Google shopping, whatever's the most profitable part of the business. That's why startups get to keep existing. And so a really interesting future. So Jason

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  17. At the same time, and then have the enthusiasm and energy to keep growing them. So that is now becoming the finite resources is the founding team or the founders or the founder their enthusiasm and energy, creative cycles to push something forward as opposed to the blocker being, can I get three more developers or, you know, in the case of these larger companies, you know, maybe a team of like 15 or 20 or 30 of them to allocate to a new product line and they get the new product line to a revenue level that actually impacts our bottom line. And that's why companies like Meta, Microsoft, and Google don't go after very small niche products too often because even if they put 30, 40, 50 developers on it and they start making interesting product, it doesn't move the needle for them.

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  18. This is, I think, the full stack is more achievable. The most interesting part of that was when he said, yeah, maybe it's easier now because software development is so much faster to maybe add those next incremental products. I think he's right. It's just a matter of the distraction customer service. Maybe it's easier, but you still need to think about it. And then founders need to be able to keep multiple business units in their head.

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  19. Yeah, because For bookkeepers, continued success. And yeah, I'll DM you about maybe I can get in on SPV here and get some of my investors together and get on that cap table. Yum, yum. I smell a 10x from here. Great job. And thanks for supporting founders. And thanks for supporting this podcast. I don't know if you're a current advertiser or not, but I know in the past I've read some Mercury ads and I use it. It's a great product.

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  20. Well, I mean, it is interesting. A lot of people are using probably mercury or your contemporaries, and then they have an outsourced virtual accounting company, which they typically charge, I think, $3,000 a month. Most artists pay two, three, four thousand a month for these. I'm talking about like seed stage Series A. And it's just a much better way to do your accounting. You spend $30,000, $40, $50K instead of having to hire an accounting firm. Some of the accounting firms, I think, are probably in a similar thing. But yeah, pilot, I guess, is the other big one.

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  21. They were the bench founders. Yes, yes. Oh, wow. So are you going to have like an accounting service for your customers? Is that the vision?

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  22. I think the problem It is definitely the case with, I think, Robin Hood as well, any of the, or Uber, I think is also having this. They found that people who use Eats, shopping, if you think about Eats shopping Uber transportation has three separate products. The people who use two of those three or three of those three are like 10 times more active on the platform. So it's also a catalyst. Once you make that connection, they're in the app more. So they use it more. It makes sense, right? So if you use the expensing in Mercury or the invoicing in Mercury, you're in the interface. You see the next product. You click on it and your acquisition costs for that person is 0.0. Yeah, really great. Really great observation and an important one for founders, maybe in later years, first couple years, got to stay focused on maybe.

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  23. Well, no, I mean, I still look at Yahoo Finance just out of like a creature of habit. And the webpage is a bit of a mess. I mean, it needs to be really overhauled and cleaned up, but it's kind of like this archaic.

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  24. And if you get to, I remember Jerry Yang in the Yahoo days told me at some point I was interviewing him. My old magazine Silicon Valley reporter to really date this conversation. And I said, hey, what's the focus now at Yahoo? And he said, the focus is 2.4. And I was like, what does it mean? He's like, if we can get you to use 2.4 services from Yahoo, you'll never leave. I'm like, I still don't understand. He's like, okay, do you have a Yahoo Mail account? I was like, Yes. He's like, okay, do you use Yahoo Finance or Yahoo Sports? I was like, yeah, I put the NIX in there. I get my schedule. And yeah, I have some socks. And he goes, okay, so you're three. You're never going to leave. And to this day, I have Yahoo email account. I thought the story will end with

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  25. Yeah, that's going to be a really cool future when you can just ask questions. About what's going on with your bank as opposed to now where banking is just really hard to get a handle on what's going on with your money, the easier it can be and just my whoop makes it so, I don't know if you're like a fan of whoop Got your whoopia. Like, I don't know if you've been watching her. Have you started using the AI? Yeah, you've got a bike.

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  26. Welcome to 1% is 50 million. I can get my 10 pips now. I should have got it earlier, but get my 10 pips now. It just cost me 100 more. Listen, great job. Continued success. Appreciate your supporting this podcast, an independent media. And banks, you're my bank. I love using you guys. Before you go, though, how do you think about AI as the CEO running the business? And then how do you think about AI vis-a-vis agents wanting to do transactions now? There's some new protocols. I know Coinbase has, you know, pioneered some of them. I think you might have been part of this new standard that's coming out, but people are going to want to use agents scary or just obvious. Like, how do you think about agents touching money?

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  27. And conditions apply. That's LinkedIn.com Twist. So if I wanted to theoretically put $5 million in for primary capital into the company, how would you look at me negotiating that with you? Obviously you just topped off a bit with this 200 million, but hey, an extra $5 million is great. Maybe I can tweet once in a while, hey, you know, I'm an investor. How would you look at that if I wanted to, I don't know, because if people have brought up Mercury, like how do we get on that game?

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  29. Secondary transactions to put primary capital into the company and or let existing employees liquidate. So how do you think about that as the founder, at least SPVs?

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  30. And Vanta, both of those folks were advertisers on the pod. I had them on as guests because they were incredible businesses independently. And then I was just like, can I invest? And man, I missed Mercury, so I miss that, you know, gosh, I probably would have gotten in at 100 or 250 million it would be a 25x right now. But I think actually maybe now's the time for me to invest because I have a late stage syndicate. How do you think about SPVs and syndicates and late stage financing now and allowing your employees to maybe get some liquidity or just using that as a vehicle? We just saw Anthropics say, hey, we're going to negate all these non-cap table SPVs, but obviously on the other side of the ledger, you have folks like Claude, SpaceX, Stripe, and previously when there were private company Facebook doing very orderly.

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  31. I mean, and you guys are buying ads from the beginning. I'm such an idiot. It's a story of my life. Like, you guys were like, oh, we're doing startups and you guys were, I think you were one of our, I think we were one of your first podcasts that you. Know, got the word out on, and you know, it's so dumb every time somebody advertised us on this program, I just need to tell them, go invest 100K or 250K in that startup because that's what I did with Eight Sleep.

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  32. Tell me about the journey from small companies and using them, you know, going back to your more like early entrepreneurial days and trying to find product market fit. A lot of young founders year zero of their startup. They're not even incorporated. They're building and vibe coding a project while they're working at some big tech company working at Mercury and on the weekends that we're working on their startup. For those folks, explain to them how you first got product market fit with startups why you chose startups and then what you learned from that process.

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  33. But you could launch one, right? I'm sure these companies are all pitching you on being the rails to have a Mercury stablecoin.

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  34. Come and stable coins outside the US have become the place where people do that activity and we want those things to maybe come on shore. and be more regulated, know your customer. So you're trying to do all these things right. How do you think about Stablecoins, and will they become the default Rails for us doing payments between companies? And then what does that do for the banking industry yourself? Do you have to provide that? You don't make any money on that, or do you make money on it? How do you think about all that?

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  35. This year in season three, and it takes place in the UK this year, the entire storyline was about a bank charter and somebody trying to get one for like a green energy company and trying it like all resulted in or maybe it was season four. It all resulted in the handwringing of just how important it is there's industry, like the trailer. The government, whether it's the UK or the United States, they're very judicious about bank charters because banks are moving money can be used for nefarious things around the world, human trafficking, terrorism. It's just all the bad things that can happen. And then we have seen that allegedly people claim things like tether have become

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  36. Yeah, it's so funny. This was like, do you watch the TV show industry by chance? It's an incredible show on HBO. It's really about banking. Oh, really?

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  37. Have more control, right? If you are a bank, you don't have to ask the bank you're partnered with, hey, can we do this and that and get their buy-in, you can just go straight and do it.

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  39. Got it. Oh, okay. Okay. And I guess that puts you in an interesting position. Still, right below what people say is the benchmark to go public, which is $1 billion. But you're kind of consistently getting closer to that. So how do you think about how you want to run this business? What do your investors want to do? What do you want to do? Is it time to start considering going public? Obviously, you probably were offered during the SPAC crate.

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  40. That's a large number of businesses. Revenue now, I understand $650 million a year annualized run rate, something in that range.

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  41. How long have you been running Mercury? And how many customers are there now? Because, you know, I became aware of you guys since you targeted startups as your initial sort of ideal customer profile there and that initial customer profile. But I know it's spread to other categories, larger enterprises, et cetera. But when did you start this and how many customers now?

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  42. Hermes agent. So my next goal is to connect those two. So then I would theoretically be putting all this into my Hermes agent or maybe an obsidian locker, something like that. But yes, Le's chat is an even better than Hermes.

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  43. Interesting. Yeah. I've been thinking about that. At some point, I'm going to connect like either OpenClaude or what's the French one that everybody's talking about now? LeChat? No.

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  44. It's synced and it makes multiple versions of that conversation, a mind map, if it was a long one, like a rambling podcast episode, it'll make you notes. It'll make you bullet points, action items. And of course, just a perfect transcript. So you get all that out of the box, super easy one click.

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  45. Well, I have applaud here on my wrist. Sometimes I wear it on the lapel of my jacket. You've got it on your wrist too. You press the button. You hit the haptic. Red light goes on. Now I'm recording. Anything I do, I can be like, oh, we're hiring six associates in training to start out our venture firm. This is a true story. And I know I have to catch up with Jackie who's doing the hiring process. And we have to talk about how we're going to assign all that. So I can just say, hey, make sure we put on my calendar that I got to meet with Jackie. Go over the six new hires for the associated and training program and how we're going to allocate them across our eight different business units. And let's put that on my calendar and let's make some training manuals for it. Now, you know, I gave it some basic instructions. All those notes. When I sync, which I can do either through my phone or by just putting it into this little charge pad.

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  46. Everybody, welcome back to Twist for May 20th, May 20th, 520. It's not 420. It's 520. Summer is upon us. Graduations have occurred. And it's going to be a wild summer. The pace at which things have been happening in AI, in global politics, it is just fast and furious and we help you process it here three days a week, Monday, Wednesday, Friday on Twist. Today we're very lucky because one of the great startup stories of the past 20 years, or maybe it's 15 Mercury Bank is going to be on talking about their latest fundraising. And then we're going to tell the story of what happens when you create a startup and allegedly another company from Y Combinator cut and paste everything you do in steals your idea, allegedly. After stealing your idea, you go public with it and that strategy. This is our two guests today. Yeah, Alex.

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  47. Another company cut and paste everything you do in Steals Your Idea, allegedly, after stealing your idea, you go public with it.

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