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Ayanna Howard

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“Yeah, it would be drama, and I, you know, I'm human. I deal with drama all the time. But the reason why I want to pick Data's brain is because I could have a conversation with him and ask, for example, how can we fix this ethics problem? Right. And he could go through like the rational thinking. And through that, he could also help me think through it as well. And so there's like these questions, fundamental questions I think I could ask him that he would help me also learn from. And that fascinates me.”
2020-01-17 · Lex Fridman Podcast · Ayanna Howard: Human-Robot Interaction and Ethics of Safety-Critical Systems · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“And then you have the ethicist, the robotics folks that were like, no, this has got to stop. I will take the other pill. Order to make a difference.”
2020-01-17 · Lex Fridman Podcast · Ayanna Howard: Human-Robot Interaction and Ethics of Safety-Critical Systems · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“There were humans that had a choice, right? Like you had a choice to stay in this horrific, horrific world where it was your fantasy life with all of the anomalies, perfection, but not accurate. Or you can choose to be on your own and like have maybe no food for a couple of days, but you were totally autonomous. And so I think of that as, and that's why. So it's not necessarily us being enslaved, but I think about us having the symbiotic relationship. Robots and AI, even if they become sentient, they're still part of our society and they will suffer just as much as we”
2020-01-17 · Lex Fridman Podcast · Ayanna Howard: Human-Robot Interaction and Ethics of Safety-Critical Systems · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Yeah, it is one of my favorite movies. And it's because it represents kind of all the things I think about. So there's a symbiotic relationship between robots and humans, right? That symbiotic relationship is that they don't destroy us. They enslave us, right? But think about it. Though they enslaved us, they needed us to be happy. And in order to be happy, they had to create this crudey world that they then had to live in, right? That's the whole premise. But then.”
2020-01-17 · Lex Fridman Podcast · Ayanna Howard: Human-Robot Interaction and Ethics of Safety-Critical Systems · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Don't go out and then kill us, right? Like, think about it, it's because it's instilled in them values. We instilled in them this whole aspect of community. And yes, even though you're maybe smarter and more have more money and da da da, it's still about this love, caring, relationship. And so that's what I believe. So even if like, you know, we've created the singularity in some archaic system back in 1980 that suddenly evolves, the fact is it might say, I am smarter, I am sentient. These humans are really stupid, but I think it'll be like, yeah, but I just can't destroy them.”
2020-01-17 · Lex Fridman Podcast · Ayanna Howard: Human-Robot Interaction and Ethics of Safety-Critical Systems · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“No, I don't. Singularity will be an example. So my concept is that, so remember robots, AI, is designed by people. It has our values. And I always correlate this with a parent and a child, right? So think about it as a parent, what do we want? We want our kids to have a better life than us. We want them to expand. We want them to experience the world. And then as we grow older, our kids think and know they're smarter and better and more intelligent and have better opportunities. And they may even stop listening to us.”
2020-01-17 · Lex Fridman Podcast · Ayanna Howard: Human-Robot Interaction and Ethics of Safety-Critical Systems · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Yeah, I don't think people should be afraid. I think that the return on investment, the impact, positive impact will outweigh any of the potentially negative impacts”
2020-01-17 · Lex Fridman Podcast · Ayanna Howard: Human-Robot Interaction and Ethics of Safety-Critical Systems · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Correct, correct, right? Making sure that they can think rationally, even having the conversations who should pull the trigger, right?”
2020-01-17 · Lex Fridman Podcast · Ayanna Howard: Human-Robot Interaction and Ethics of Safety-Critical Systems · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“So changing thinking about the ramifications, thinking about like the ethics, thinking about the conversation is going on, right? It's not, it's no longer a, we're going to deploy it and forget that this is a car that can kill pedestrians that are walking across the street, right? We're not in that stage. We're putting these roads out. There are people out there. Car could be a weapon. People are now, solutions aren't there yet, but people are thinking about this as we need to be ethically responsible as we send these systems out, robotics, medical, self-driving”
2020-01-17 · Lex Fridman Podcast · Ayanna Howard: Human-Robot Interaction and Ethics of Safety-Critical Systems · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“So, should people be afraid? I don't think people should be afraid, but with a caveat. I don't think people should be afraid given that most of us in this world understand that we need to change something, right? So given that. Now, if things don't change, be very afraid.”
2020-01-17 · Lex Fridman Podcast · Ayanna Howard: Human-Robot Interaction and Ethics of Safety-Critical Systems · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“So basically a robot and human working in the same space. So some of the companies are focused on manufacturing. So having a robot and human working together in a factory, some of these co-robots are robots and humans working in the home, working in clinics. Like there's different versions of these companies in terms of their products, but they're all, so we think robotics would be like one of the first, at least well-known companies focus on this space. So I don't know if this is a second batch or if this is. Still part of the first batch. That I don't know. And then you have all these other companies in this self driving, you know, space. And I don't know if that's a first batch or again a second batch.”
2020-01-17 · Lex Fridman Podcast · Ayanna Howard: Human-Robot Interaction and Ethics of Safety-Critical Systems · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“So, if I think about, and because I try to follow the VC kind of space in terms of robotic investments. And right now, I don't know if they're going to be successful. I don't know if this is the second batch There's only one batch that's focused on like the first batch, right? And then there's all these self-driving X's, right? And so I don't know if they're a first batch of something or if I don't know quite where they fit in, but there's a number of companies, the co-robot, I call them co-robots that are still getting VC investments. Some of them have some of the flavor of like Rethink Robotics. Some of them have some of the flavor of like Curie.”
2020-01-17 · Lex Fridman Podcast · Ayanna Howard: Human-Robot Interaction and Ethics of Safety-Critical Systems · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Like they're not in the top 5, 10 of Fortune 500 companies, right? They proved, they started to prove out the market. They started to get people interested. They started the buzz, but they didn't make it to that next level. But the second batch, right? The second batch, I think, might make it to the next level.”
2020-01-17 · Lex Fridman Podcast · Ayanna Howard: Human-Robot Interaction and Ethics of Safety-Critical Systems · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Now there's competitors, yeah. And so that's the next thing, right? The competition and they have quite a number even internationally. Like there's some products out there you can go to Europe and be like, oh, I didn't even know this one existed So, this is the thing, though, like with any market This is not a bad time, although, you know, as a roboticist, it's kind of depressing. But I actually think about things like with, I would say that all of the companies that are now in the top five or six, they weren't the first to the stage, right? Like Google was not the first search engine, sorry, Alta Vista, right? Facebook was not the first, sorry, MySpace, right? Like think about it, they were not the first players. Those first players.”
2020-01-17 · Lex Fridman Podcast · Ayanna Howard: Human-Robot Interaction and Ethics of Safety-Critical Systems · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“To then try to the vacuum cleaner is what I've been told was not like their first. Rendezvous in terms of designing a product, right? And so they were able to survive until they got to the point that they found a product price market, right? And even with if you look at the Roomba, the price point now is different than when it was first released, right? It was an early adopter price, but they found enough people who were willing to fund it. And I mean, I forgot what their loss profile was for the first couple of, you know, years, but they became profitable in sufficient time that they didn't have to close their doors.”
2020-01-17 · Lex Fridman Podcast · Ayanna Howard: Human-Robot Interaction and Ethics of Safety-Critical Systems · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“So if you think about iRobot and their story, right? Like when they first, they had enough of a runway, right? When they first started, they weren't doing vacuum cleaners, right? They were contracts primarily government contracts designing robots. Robots. Yeah, military. I mean, that's what they were. That's how they started, right? They still do.”
2020-01-17 · Lex Fridman Podcast · Ayanna Howard: Human-Robot Interaction and Ethics of Safety-Critical Systems · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Yeah, so although we think robotics was getting there, right? But I think it's just the timing, it just their clock just timed out. I think if they had been given a couple more years, they would have been okay. But the other ones were still fairly early by the time they got into the market. And so product market fit is I have a product that I want to sell at a certain price. Are there enough people out there, the market, that are willing to buy the product at that market price for me to be a functional, viable profit-bearing company? Right. So product market fit. If it costs you $1,000 and everyone wants it and only is willing to pay a dollar, you have no product market fit, even if you could sell it for, you know, it's enough for a dollar because you can't.”
2020-01-17 · Lex Fridman Podcast · Ayanna Howard: Human-Robot Interaction and Ethics of Safety-Critical Systems · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“You mean like business wise? Yeah, gotcha. Yeah. Like I look at all data and I'm like, they seem to have like product market fit. So that's the only one I don't understand. The rest of it was product market”
2020-01-17 · Lex Fridman Podcast · Ayanna Howard: Human-Robot Interaction and Ethics of Safety-Critical Systems · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Each one has a story. Only one of them I don't understand. And that was Anki. That's actually the only one I don't understand”
2020-01-17 · Lex Fridman Podcast · Ayanna Howard: Human-Robot Interaction and Ethics of Safety-Critical Systems · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Exactly. And so, what I envision is that we will establish some type of norm at some point, but that it might evolve, right? Like if you look at women's rights now, like there are still some countries that Don't have in the rest of the world is like why that makes no sense, right? And so I do see a world where we do establish some type of grounding. It might be based on property rights. It might be based on animal rights. And if it evolves that way, I think we will have this conversation at that time because that's the way our society traditionally has evolved.”
2020-01-17 · Lex Fridman Podcast · Ayanna Howard: Human-Robot Interaction and Ethics of Safety-Critical Systems · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“And then if you think about property, property, the rights are associated with the person, right? So if someone vandalizes your property or steals your property, like there are some rights, but it's associated with the person who owns that. If you think about it back in the day, and if you remember, we talked about how society has changed, women. We're property, right? They were not thought of as having rights. They were thought of as property of like their.”
2020-01-17 · Lex Fridman Podcast · Ayanna Howard: Human-Robot Interaction and Ethics of Safety-Critical Systems · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Well, right? And so this is my, and as I said, I have a biased lens and my robot friends will understand that But so, if you think about it, and I actually put this in kind of the as a roboticist, you don't necessarily think of robots as human with human rights, but you could think of them either in the category of property, or you can think of them in the category of animals, right? And so both of those have different types of rights. So animals have their own rights as a living being, but they can't vote, they can't write, they can be euthanized. But as humans, if we abuse them, we go to jail, like, right? So they do have some rights that protect them, but don't give them the rights of like citizenship.”
2020-01-17 · Lex Fridman Podcast · Ayanna Howard: Human-Robot Interaction and Ethics of Safety-Critical Systems · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“So I can see a future if we don't address it in the near term where these agents as they adapt and learn could say, hey, this should be something that's fundamental. Hopefully think that we would address it before it gets to that point”
2020-01-17 · Lex Fridman Podcast · Ayanna Howard: Human-Robot Interaction and Ethics of Safety-Critical Systems · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Yeah, so in this case, and you had asked can an AI agent love a human back, I think they can emulate love back, right? And so what does that actually mean? It just means that if you think about their programming, they might put the other person's needs in front of theirs in certain situations, right? You look at, think about it as return on investment. Like, was my return on investment? As part of that equation, that person's happiness, you know, has some type of, you know, algorithm waiting to it. And the reason why is because I care about them, right? That's the only reason, right? But if I care about them and I show that, then my final objective function is length of time of the engagement, right? So you can think of how to do this. Actually quite easily.”
2020-01-17 · Lex Fridman Podcast · Ayanna Howard: Human-Robot Interaction and Ethics of Safety-Critical Systems · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Relationship building part can I mean, just think about it. We have, and I don't use dating sites, but from what I heard. There are some individuals that have been dating, that have never saw each other, right? In fact, there's a show, I think, that tries to weed out fake people. Like there's a show that comes out, right? Because people start faking. Like, what's the difference of that person on the other end being an AI agent, right? And having a communication, are you building a relationship remotely, like there's no reason why that can't happen”
2020-01-17 · Lex Fridman Podcast · Ayanna Howard: Human-Robot Interaction and Ethics of Safety-Critical Systems · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Yes. So I do believe that we can design systems where people would fall in love with their robot, with their AI partner. That I do believe because it's actually, and I don't like to use the word manipulate, but as we see, there are certain individuals that can be manipulated. If you understand the cognitive science about it, right?”
2020-01-17 · Lex Fridman Podcast · Ayanna Howard: Human-Robot Interaction and Ethics of Safety-Critical Systems · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Oh, yeah. Although she kind of didn't fall in love with him, or she fell in love with like a million other people, something like that.”
2020-01-17 · Lex Fridman Podcast · Ayanna Howard: Human-Robot Interaction and Ethics of Safety-Critical Systems · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Equal access to all these wonderful things that AI can do and robotics can do. I worry about that. People like me from Georgia Tech, from say MIT will be okay, right? But that's such a small part of the population. That we need to think much more globally of having access to the beautiful things, whether it's AI and healthcare, AI in education, AI and politics, right? I worry about that.”
2020-01-17 · Lex Fridman Podcast · Ayanna Howard: Human-Robot Interaction and Ethics of Safety-Critical Systems · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“I do. I do know that AI robotics will displace workers. Like, we do know that, but there'll be other workers that will be defined new jobs. What I worry about is that's not what I worry about. Like, will all the jobs go away? What I worry about is the type of jobs that will come out, right? Like people who graduate from Georgia Tech will be okay, right? We give them the skills they will adapt even if their current job goes away. I do worry about those that don't have that quality of an education, right? Will they have the ability, the background to adapt to those new jobs? That I don't know. That I worry about, which will create even more polarization in our society internationally and everywhere. I worry about that. I also worry about not having”
2020-01-17 · Lex Fridman Podcast · Ayanna Howard: Human-Robot Interaction and Ethics of Safety-Critical Systems · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“I have more hope for workforce development. And that's because I'm seeing investments. Even if you look at VC investments in education, the majority of it has lately been going to workforce retraining, right? And so I think that government investments is increasing. There's like a claim. And some of it's based on fear, right? Like AI is going to come and take over all these jobs. What are we going to do with all these non-paying taxes that aren't coming to us by our citizens? And so I think I'm more hopeful for that so hopeful for early education because it's this. It's still who's going to pay for it, and you won't see the results for like sixteen to eighteen years. It's hard for people to wrap their heads around that.”
2020-01-17 · Lex Fridman Podcast · Ayanna Howard: Human-Robot Interaction and Ethics of Safety-Critical Systems · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“I think personalization is really important, but a caveat is that I think we'd be okay if we can personalize to the group, right? And so if I can label you as along some certain dimensions. Then, even though it may not be you specifically, I can put you in this group. So the sample size, this is how they best learn, this is how they best engage. Even at that level, it's really important. And it's because, I mean, it's one of the reasons why educating in large classrooms is so hard, right? You teach to, you know, the median. There's these individuals that are struggling, and then you have highly intelligent individuals. And those are the ones that are usually kind of left out. So highly intelligent individuals may be disruptive and those who are struggling might be disruptive because they're both”
2020-01-17 · Lex Fridman Podcast · Ayanna Howard: Human-Robot Interaction and Ethics of Safety-Critical Systems · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“So identifying whether a person is focused is like that we can figure out What we can figure out, and there's some positive results in this, is that personalized adaptation based on any concepts, right? So imagine I think about I have an agent and I'm working with a kid learning, I don't know, algebra too. Can that same agent then switch and teach some type of new coding skill to a displaced mechanic? What does that actually look like, right? Like, hardware might be the same. Content is different to different target demographics of engagement. Like how do you do that”
2020-01-17 · Lex Fridman Podcast · Ayanna Howard: Human-Robot Interaction and Ethics of Safety-Critical Systems · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Dealing with some of the things that are going to come out later on of job loss, like thinking about robots and AI systems for retraining and workforce development. I think that's exciting areas that can be pushed even more. And it would have a huge, huge impact.”
2020-01-17 · Lex Fridman Podcast · Ayanna Howard: Human-Robot Interaction and Ethics of Safety-Critical Systems · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Yeah, so besides healthcare, because that's my biased lens, my other bias lens is education. I think that, well, one, we definitely in the US, you know, we're doing okay with teachers, but there's a lot of school districts that don't have enough teachers. If you think about the teacher student ratio for at least public education in some districts, it's crazy. It's like, how can you have learning in that classroom, right? Because you just don't have the human capital. And so if you think about robotics bringing that in to classrooms as well as the after school space where they offset some of this lack of resources in certain communities, I think that's a good place. And then turning on the other end is using these systems then for workforce retraining and”
2020-01-17 · Lex Fridman Podcast · Ayanna Howard: Human-Robot Interaction and Ethics of Safety-Critical Systems · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Right, so basically it was a you're still trusting the system, but you're also putting in a little bit of like your human expertise, like your human decision processing into the equation. So it helps to mitigate that over trust risk.”
2020-01-17 · Lex Fridman Podcast · Ayanna Howard: Human-Robot Interaction and Ethics of Safety-Critical Systems · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Again, this is an open ended problem. So, one of the studies that actually has given me some hope that I were trying to figure out how to put in robotics. So there was a research study that has showed for medical AI systems, giving information to radiologists about here, you need to look at these areas on the X-ray. What they found was that when the system provided one choice, there was this aspect of either no trust or over trust. I don't believe it at all or a yes, yes, yes, yes. And they would miss things, right? Instead when the system gave them multiple choices, like here are the three, even if it knew like, you know, it had estimated that the top area you need to look at was some place on the x-ray, if it gave like one plus others the trust was maintained and the accuracy of the entire population increased.”
2020-01-17 · Lex Fridman Podcast · Ayanna Howard: Human-Robot Interaction and Ethics of Safety-Critical Systems · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“This is still an open area of research, but basically what I would like in a perfect world is that people trust the technology when it's working 100% and people will be hypersensitive and identify when it's not. But of course, we're not there. That's the ideal world. But we find is that people swing, right? They tend to swing, which means that if my first, and like we have some papers, like first impressions is everything If my first instance with technology with robotics is positive, it mitigates any risk, it correlates with like best outcomes. It means that I'm more likely to either not see it when it makes a mistakes or false, or I'm more likely to forgive it. And so, this is a problem because technology is not 100% accurate, right? It's not 100% accurate, although it may be perfect.”
2020-01-17 · Lex Fridman Podcast · Ayanna Howard: Human-Robot Interaction and Ethics of Safety-Critical Systems · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Like, even if you think about cars, I think it's a beautiful case. I came here at some point, I'm sure, on either Uber or Lyft, right? I remember when it first came out, right? I bet if they had had a survey, would you get in the car with a stranger and pay them? How many people do you think would have said really, you know, wait, even worse? Would you get in the car with a stranger at 1 a.m. in the morning to have them drop you home as a single female? Like, how many people would say that's stupid? And now look at where we are. I mean, people put kids, right? Oh yeah, my child has to go to school. And I, yeah, I'm going to put my kid in this car with a stranger. I mean, it's just fascinating how what we think we think is not necessarily matching our behavior.”
2020-01-17 · Lex Fridman Podcast · Ayanna Howard: Human-Robot Interaction and Ethics of Safety-Critical Systems · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Basically, the way I look at it is trust is not what you click on a survey. Trust is about your behavior. So if you interact with the technology, Based on the decision or the actions of the technology as if you trust that decision, then you're trusting, right? And I mean, even in my group, we've done surveys that on the thing do at your trust robots. Of course not. Would you follow this robot in a burning building? Of course not, right? And then you look at their actions and you're like clearly your behavior does not match what you think, right? or what you think you would like to think, right? And so I'm really concerned about the behavior because that's really at the end of the day when you're in the world, that's what will impact others around you. It's not whether before you went onto the street, you clicked on like, I don't trust self-driving cars.”
2020-01-17 · Lex Fridman Podcast · Ayanna Howard: Human-Robot Interaction and Ethics of Safety-Critical Systems · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“I'd probably still be sending rovers to glaciers, right? But the problems were interesting. And the other thing was that they were hard, right? So it's, I like having to go into a room and being like, I don't know what to do. And then going back and saying, okay, I'm going to figure this out. I'm not driven when I go and I'm like, oh, there are no surprises. I don't find that satisfying. If that was the case, I go someplace and make a lot more money Right? I think I stay in academic because and choose to do this because I can go into a room and like that's hard.”
2020-01-17 · Lex Fridman Podcast · Ayanna Howard: Human-Robot Interaction and Ethics of Safety-Critical Systems · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“It's a hard problem and it's very risky as an academic. And I knew that when I started down that journey. That it was very risky as an academic in this world that was nuanced. It was just developing. We didn't even have a conference, right? At the time, because it was the interesting problems. That was what drove me. It was. The fact that I looked at what interest me in terms of the application space and the problems, and that pushed me into trying to figure out what people were and what humans were and how to adapt to them. If those problems weren't so interesting.”
2020-01-17 · Lex Fridman Podcast · Ayanna Howard: Human-Robot Interaction and Ethics of Safety-Critical Systems · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“And then when you do that, you become more of an artificial intelligence AI. And so I see myself evolving more in this AI world under the lens of robotics having hardware interacting with people.”
2020-01-17 · Lex Fridman Podcast · Ayanna Howard: Human-Robot Interaction and Ethics of Safety-Critical Systems · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“It's actually neither. The hardest part is the adaptation and the interaction It's the interface, it's the learning. And so if I think of like I've become much more of a roboticist slash AI person. Than when I like originally, again, I was about the Bionics. I was an electrical engineer. I was control theory, right? Like, and then I started realizing that my algorithms needed like human data, right? And so then I was like, okay, what is this human thing? How do I incorporate human data? And then I realized that human perception had like there was a lot in terms of how we perceived the world and so trying to figure out how do I model human perception for my. And so I became an HRI person, human robot interaction person, from being a control theory and realizing that humans actually offered quite a bit.”
2020-01-17 · Lex Fridman Podcast · Ayanna Howard: Human-Robot Interaction and Ethics of Safety-Critical Systems · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“So we like my group as well as I read a lot in the cognitive science literature as well as the psychology literature because they understand a lot about human human relations and developmental milestones and things like that. And so we tend to look to see what's been done out there. Sometimes what we'll do is we'll try to match that to see is that human-human relationship the same as human robot. Sometimes it is and sometimes it's different. And then when it's different, we have to try to figure out, okay, why is it different in this scenario, but it's the same in the other scenario, right? And so we try to do that quite a bit.”
2020-01-17 · Lex Fridman Podcast · Ayanna Howard: Human-Robot Interaction and Ethics of Safety-Critical Systems · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Star Trek, except I have also met adults. Right. And so that is a developmental process. And I'm sure there's a bunch of psychologists that could go through like you can have a 60 year old adult who has the emotional maturity of a 10-year-old, right? And so Various phases that people should go through in order to evolve, and sometimes you don't.”
2020-01-17 · Lex Fridman Podcast · Ayanna Howard: Human-Robot Interaction and Ethics of Safety-Critical Systems · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Well, so data with the emotion ship was kind of a mess, right? It took a while for that him to adapt. And so why was that an issue? The issue is that emotions make us irrational agents. That's the problem. And yet he could think through things even if it was based on an emotional scenario, right? Based on pros and cons. But as soon as you made him emotional, one of the metrics he used for evaluation was his own emotions, not people around him, right? Like, and so.”
2020-01-17 · Lex Fridman Podcast · Ayanna Howard: Human-Robot Interaction and Ethics of Safety-Critical Systems · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Yeah, so I mean, there's the near term. For example, they just announced the rover that's going to the moon. Which is kind of exciting. That's like near term, you know, my favorite favorite, favorite series is Star Trek, right? You know, I really hope, and even Star Trek, like if I calculate the years, I wouldn't be alive. But I would really, really love to be in that world. Like even if it's just at the beginning, like, you know, like voyage like adventure one.”
2020-01-17 · Lex Fridman Podcast · Ayanna Howard: Human-Robot Interaction and Ethics of Safety-Critical Systems · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“I would say human-like, not human-noid, right? And when I say human-like, I think it's this aspect of that interaction, whether it's social and it's like a dog, right? Like that's human-like because it understand us, it interacts with us at that very social level, you know, humanoids are part of that, but only if they interact with us as if we are human.”
2020-01-17 · Lex Fridman Podcast · Ayanna Howard: Human-Robot Interaction and Ethics of Safety-Critical Systems · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“So for me, it would have, in another world, I probably would have been more of a biomedical engineer because what fascinated me was the parts, like the bionic parts, the limbs, those aspects of it.”
2020-01-17 · Lex Fridman Podcast · Ayanna Howard: Human-Robot Interaction and Ethics of Safety-Critical Systems · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Like that was TV, right? Like, it wasn't like I was in the same space and I met. I was like, oh my gosh, you're like real.”
2020-01-17 · Lex Fridman Podcast · Ayanna Howard: Human-Robot Interaction and Ethics of Safety-Critical Systems · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source