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“Frankly, yes. And so. And just to so people get a clear view of everything, I mean, Palestinian government over 51% of them are comprised of Hamas right now. And so it's very difficult to have conversations.”
2017-10-30 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 186 - Bakari Sellers · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Is that the answer? I think that the White House took a legitimate position when they said that you should not build any more. It's hard to negotiate any land swaps when you have all the... Which I think is the idea.”
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“I thought it was provocative and I thought it was disrespectful. And, you know, because of my support in my position, I'm able to say that and have an audience and have people who respond. Because if we're going to continue to build coalitions around having a safe and secure Israel with young people, young millennials, young people of color, then we're going to have to make sure that we can actually message. And it was very hard during that time period for me to have any positive interaction with people about what was going on in our country as it relates to Israel when Bibi Netanyahu was embarrassing the president. With that being said, though, I also get to tout the fact that in the last eight years of Barack Obama, the relationship has never been any stronger.”
2017-10-30 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 186 - Bakari Sellers · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“And I've been in Palestine, I've been to Bethlehem. I've been in Gaza, West Bank, been to the border of Lebanon and Syria, and I just felt as if there is a country that Maintains the values that we hold near and true. You know, you can be gay in Israel and prosper. You can be a woman and be empowered in Israel. You can be a Somalian immigrant and have amazing life. But that doesn't mean that my support is unfettered. I think that one of the reasons that we haven't had the progress that we want between the Israelis and Palestinians is because of Bibi Netanyahu. I think that a lot of the clashes that we saw in the last administration between Barack Obama and Bibi Netanyahu were very personality-driven. And so you just had two men who I felt looked at each other in different ways. And I felt as if the prime minister actually disrespected the 44th president of the United States on a number of occasions. And with that”
2017-10-30 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 186 - Bakari Sellers · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“That was a loaded question. So my support for Israel has been one that dates back to my years in college when I was a student government president at Morehouse and began APAC invited me up and begin to bring me to their conferences. And I've been able to go to Israel. I actually count Ron Dermer as a friend of mine, the Israeli ambassador. Israeli ambassador to the US. And so I've watched our foreign policy as it relates to Israel and Palestine and Israel and Iran and Israel and Syria and Lebanon, all of its border countries with great interest. And for me, more than being a supporter of the state of Israel, it was a learning journey. I tell people all the time in order to understand Israel as you've been, you kind of have to go.”
2017-10-30 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 186 - Bakari Sellers · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“So, I do think that Donald Trump uses white supremacy. I do think that he uses racism. You know, I'll let the history books write whether or not Donald Trump is a racist. I've only met him once. Yeah.”
2017-10-30 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 186 - Bakari Sellers · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“However, Donald Trump has enveloped himself in some of the more racist figures that we've seen in American politics. I mean, Steve Bannon held the job that you held. I mean, that is kind of where we were. That's where we were or where we are as a country. Stephen Miller, for example, who has ideologies that I believe I just find completely repulsive. When you envelop yourself with those types of individuals, and then you speak, you don't even try to speak in these racial undertones. You use a bullhorn. When he went down to Alabama, Alabama of all places and called NFL players, protesting, majority of which are African, the overwhelming majority of which are African Americans, sons of bitches, then I mean that to me rang very, very loudly. And so”
2017-10-30 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 186 - Bakari Sellers · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“In certain ways, there's a cynicism that makes it worse. There's a calculation. And so I struggled with that for a long time in my critique of Donald Trump.”
2017-10-30 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 186 - Bakari Sellers · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“No, Donald Trump has utilized race as a valuable currency in politics, in racism. You've always, I remember, I'll never forget this. I talked to my father about it. You pull me aside one day and cautioned me about labeling people racist on TV And your admonition or instruction was that sometimes people are not racist, but they utilize racism.”
2017-10-30 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 186 - Bakari Sellers · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“You had people literally crying, all age groups, because I don't think people understood how stifling that symbol of oppression could be. And to have these reminders around you all the time that are called Confederate monuments in South Carolina post-Brown versus the Board of Education in white flight like you had in many places in the South, we had this independent school system. And so like a lot of these schools are named Andrew Jackson. Robert E. Lee Academy, Jefferson Davis Academy, places that I wouldn't go to school at. And so it's hard to have those images around you all the time, but that's a part of the Southern culture. And I'm a NASCAR fan too. You know how hard that is? Have you been to a race before?”
2017-10-30 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 186 - Bakari Sellers · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“My first time really delving into the issue of the Confederacy was when I was 15 years old and my father and I got on a march from Charleston, South Carolina to Columbia, South Carolina with Darius Rucker. And Mayor Joe Riley and others to take the flag down. And if you would have, I don't know if you were there. I know you watched it, but I don't know if you were actually in Columbia that day when it came down for the last time. No.”
2017-10-30 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 186 - Bakari Sellers · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Individuals who perpetrate slavery in their country. And so for me, take them all down. I don't want to plaque trying to clarify what the history is. We have a statue of John C. Calhoun and Pitchfork Tillman in South Carolina, Pitchfork Ben Tillman. Pitchfork Bentleman would have burned the capital down if he knew I was serving in it. So there's no clarifying that.”
2017-10-30 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 186 - Bakari Sellers · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“I think they should all come down. I do think that people say, well, why are you going to get bogged down in this debate? Well, I think I can walk and chew bubblegum at the same time. So I think I can have this debate and other debates as well. It's very hard when I'm having this discussion with people and they're like, well, you know, you even have to educate people on why the Civil War was fault. And they say, well, this was about states' rights. This was about an economy. And I say, well, what was the currency of that economy? You know, our country, you know, had two original sins. Genocide of Native Americans and slavery. And we've never really dealt with either one of those things. You know, other countries don't necessarily have statues to memorialize and celebrate.”
2017-10-30 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 186 - Bakari Sellers · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“I think that One of the people who I look forward to getting to know more when they run for president of the United States actually handled this debate better than anybody, Mayor Miss Landry from New Orleans. He gave one of the better speeches I've heard an elected official get a great speech in a long time. Personally, I think Jimmy Carter's wrong.”
2017-10-30 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 186 - Bakari Sellers · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“And, you know, when Jacob was able to ask the president any question, does your hair feel like mine? And Barack Obama leaned over in the incomparable Pizzouza took that picture. It was. That for me”
2017-10-30 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 186 - Bakari Sellers · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“A candidate who had the most difficulty campaigning. I think that she will even tell you that she didn't believe herself to be the best candidate in the world. And what that is because of people have a number of thoughts. You can't take away all of the external factors, the sexism, et cetera, et cetera. But I was very proud to support her. And I felt as if We had an amazing opportunity in this country to break that glass ceiling. And for me, again, personal, because I have a 12-year-old daughter who wants to be president of the United States one day. But it's kind of hard to be, say you want to be president when you haven't seen anybody who looks like you be president.”
2017-10-30 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 186 - Bakari Sellers · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“No, I think that Hillary Clinton would have been, and I say this sitting across the table from you, but I think Hillary Clinton would have been the best governing president this country has ever seen. I think that she was arguably one of the...”
2017-10-30 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 186 - Bakari Sellers · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Maybe, but I think that it's something totally different. I think that the Republican Party is more of a grassroots. Group and organization. I think, but why should that be? I don't think it should be. I think Democrats, though, we are a cult of personality, and I think that we've seen that, especially at the top of the ticket, outside of maybe Jimmy Carter. But JFK, Bill Clinton, Barack Obama, our party always has the most success when there is a personality or a figure that drives the topic in the discussion. The Republican Party is completely inverse or has been.”
2017-10-30 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 186 - Bakari Sellers · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Correct. And so when you think about this, we're taking. And in my perspective, I know the price that was paid for, you know, individuals to have access to the ballot box. And it's very troubling because you have organizations when we talk about guns, you mentioned the NRA, but when we're talking about these pieces of legislation, we have to talk about Alec and groups that conservative think tank groups that”
2017-10-30 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 186 - Bakari Sellers · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Oh, we're moving backwards. There's no question about it. If you look at someone like Rick Scott or Governor Scott Walker in Wisconsin, and you look at what they're doing, the purging of the rolls, voter ID bills, I mean, restricting absentee ballots are how one can actually request or process an absentee ballot. All under the name of some security, voter security or sanctity of the ballot, when we don't have these issues in our country, they just fundamentally making it more and more difficult for people to be a part of the process. I believe there were 200,000 plus people in Wisconsin who were kicked off the rolls and purged prior to this recent election in 2016. I don't want to say that would have changed the outcome, but that probably would have changed the outcome of the rest.”
2017-10-30 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 186 - Bakari Sellers · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Ran as a Republican. And, you know, I got 505,000 votes. We raise nearly a million dollars. I went to all 46 counties in South Carolina, got to meet amazing people. I know where every single Zaxby's is in the state of South Carolina. And it's an experience that I cherish. But I also know that when I run for office again, I will only run for one of two seats or two seats. That would be United States Congress or Governor of South Carolina. I don't really have any interest in running for Attorney General or Lieutenant Governor or State Senate or anything of that sort.”
2017-10-30 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 186 - Bakari Sellers · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“I thought I was going to win. I thought I was going to make history. We hadn't had an African American elected statewide in South Carolina since the Reconstruction. And so, and I was thinking about this the other day. Although I wasn't the one who was able to shatter that ceiling, I'm really glad it was somebody like Tim Scott, who I have a great deal of respect for, who is now the first African-American elected statewide in South Carolina since Reconstruction.”
2017-10-30 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 186 - Bakari Sellers · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“I was a young lawyer, baby lawyer working with some amazing people, and we filed a lawsuit on behalf of black farmers throughout the South against the U.S. Department of Agriculture. And the reason we did it is because they had a pattern of discriminating when it came to farm loans. And so we were very successful. We settled that case for $1.2.3 billion. That was probably my second proudest moment. My proudest moment as a lawyer has been that I successfully sued the state of South Carolina and the Supreme Court. I got a chance to argue in front of our Supreme Court ruled that our domestic violence laws were unconstitutional because they didn't cover same-sex couples. And so I don't know. I just, that's the type of stuff that gets me going, you know, being able to, you know, change the world in whatever field I'm doing.”
2017-10-30 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 186 - Bakari Sellers · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“I was not a Bernie Sanders supporter. I was a Hillary Clinton supporter, and I was very thankful I made the right choice. And a Barack Obama supporter, early supporter. But I appreciated my role inside the system. And I tell people, look, don't wait. We need more good people involved. I was doing office hours recently here at the University of Chicago, and I told a young man that, you know, go home. And as soon as you graduate, run for office, we need you. And I'm very encouraging of people to run from dog catcher on up because we need more talented people.”
2017-10-30 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 186 - Bakari Sellers · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Well, I tell people you can make things happen in two ways either be inside the system or outside the system. And I have friends like Duray and others who are in Black Lives Matter and other stuff. Doray McKesson, who they push the status quo from the outside. Yeah, I have a lot of my friends who are Bernie Sanders supporters who want to push the system from the outside.”
2017-10-30 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 186 - Bakari Sellers · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“I was in Time magazine and People magazine ironically enough in the same week. The reason I was in People magazine is because they This was in twenty ten, and they profiled a school that was a mile from my house the day before the photographer went in. The cafeteria roof collapsed, and it's not something that makes a CNN ticker or MSNBC ticker or anything else because that's the typical condition of schools in my area. And so I was attempting to highlight all of these things and be a voice for so many people whose voices went unheard. But having legislative successes, again, being a dim in the South is far and few between.”
2017-10-30 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 186 - Bakari Sellers · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Proud My proudest moment is something that's not really sexy. I went and got $700,000 for our state budget and we built a library in Denmark, South Carolina. And people are like, what, you know, building a library? The reason that it was so amazing is because where you have a great deal of poverty, people don't think about the other gaps and divides that you have. So in my community, we have a huge technological divide. And so that's now where people go to apply for jobs, send and receive basic emails. They do at some after school programs in there just so kids have resources, summer programs in there. And so for me, it was just a small way that I could put my district into the 21st century on my watch because we didn't expand Medicaid and some other things my hospital closed down.”
2017-10-30 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 186 - Bakari Sellers · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Possible. I think, I mean, listen, to be as blunt as I always am and even sometimes on CNN, you reel me back in. But if 20 plus little white kids can be gunned down in an elementary school and we don't fix the gun laws in this country. We're not going to do it now.”
2017-10-30 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 186 - Bakari Sellers · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Well, you know, we've had some very serious instances of shootings on campuses and high schools back when my father was on the State Department of Education. One of the first school shootings we had in this country was at Blackville Hilda High School. And so we've had these instances. And as a legislator, what I wanted to do was represent my constituents. No question. But I also wanted to have some progressive gun reform and some progressive issues that I was able to hang my hat on.”
2017-10-30 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 186 - Bakari Sellers · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Guns are very prevalent in the South. And as a southern Democrat, I took my concealed weapons permit class next to Nikki Haley. We got our concealed weapons permit and shot. You have to take a shooting test. We took it together. That doesn't mean, though, that we don't want sensible gun ownership and common sense gun reform. I mean, the reason that Dylan Roof was able to get a gun is because after 72 hours, if the federal government, the FBI doesn't come back with the background check, then the owner of that store can sell you a gun regardless, which we refer to it as the Charleston loophole. The background check wasn't complete. If there was a completed background check, Dylan Roof wouldn't have got the gun that he used to kill non-people. And so, you know, universal background checks, all of those things are important. But in the South, there is across races and it cuts across economic backgrounds. There is a proclivity.”
2017-10-30 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 186 - Bakari Sellers · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Yeah, so our districts overlapped. I was the House member and his Senate district overlapped mine district. And when I first got there, he was the youngest state senator. So he had a huge booming voice and was someone who took me under their wing. One of my last campaign events in my, I guess, it wasn't ill-fated, but my not successful run for Lieutenant Governor was at his church. We had a fish fry. I tell you this to say that one of the most difficult things law enforcement has to do is when they walk into a murder scene or a scene where there's a lot of death and devastation and they hear those phones ringing, people trying to call their loved ones. I was one of those phones ringing that night because when I heard”
2017-10-30 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 186 - Bakari Sellers · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“She deserves a monocrum of credit. I think it's a moment that I was interviewing Kirsten Gillibrand recently. And she said she hasn't voted for, I don't think, but one or two of Donald Trump's appointees. And she said that she voted for Nikki Haley because Nikki Haley took the flag down and she must have compassion. And I don't really correct a lot of people when they say that, but it does rub me the wrong way because nine people died so that flag would come down.”
2017-10-30 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 186 - Bakari Sellers · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“As a black Democrat in South Carolina, who for my eight years I served would have to go outside and take a deep breath under the auspices of the Confederate flag. You look for those moments where you can have some semblance of success. And even if that means that I have to go to Tim Scott or Lindsey Graham, who was my only United States senator, because Jim DeMint didn't do anything, or Mark Sanford, or Nikki Haley or Mick Mulvaney, then you do that. Because, you know, my constituents come from communities that are very poor in the corridor of shame where the heating and air don't work and the infrastructure is falling apart where kids go to school. And so you search for those successes and sometimes you have to go through. Ours to get”
2017-10-30 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 186 - Bakari Sellers · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“He's on his own. But you know where he's coming from, Marcus, Mark. Tim, on the other hand, and I and Trey Gout and Trey Gowdy as well, Trey's invited me up to testify at the next hearing they're having on criminal justice reform. So, you know. Are you diametrically opposed politically on some things? Yes, but are you able to find some common ground in some places? Yes. And so.”
2017-10-30 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 186 - Bakari Sellers · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“With Mark Sanford, probably not. He didn't really have a whole bunch of teammates, even on the Republican side of the aisle for anything.”
2017-10-30 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 186 - Bakari Sellers · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“When I tell you that one of my favorite people I've served with is Mark Sanford, truly. Mark Sanford invited me to his governor's mansion on a number of occasions. And the reason he brought me back the second time is because he wanted to sit down. He and his wife at the time, Jenny wanted to sit down with me and have a conversation about my father's book, about the River of No Return.”
2017-10-30 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 186 - Bakari Sellers · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Correct. And so, and one of the things that's amazing about that is after Mick Mulvaney became a quote unquote rock staring celebrity and even now in his position, he still texts me. When he sees me on State of the Union in the morning, he'll say good job. The same with Nikki Haley. I talked to Nikki Haley once a month via text or once if she's done something I like, I'll be like, I'm proud of you. Thank you for representing the state well. And even if it's something I politically disagree with, will say, how's your family? How the kids? Because, you know, they didn't really ask for all of this and they're having to live in that fish place.”
2017-10-30 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 186 - Bakari Sellers · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Vastly different constituencies. Mick beat somebody who I admire and think is a hero, but as is politics, you were there when John Sprat carried the water for the ACA in the White House and everyone else.”
2017-10-30 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 186 - Bakari Sellers · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Mick Mulvaney is brilliant, and Mick Mulvaney is somebody who I've always got along with on a very personal level. He was somebody who was always kind. He was kind to my family. He would bring his family around. And we used to always say that we both want the best for South Carolina. We just have two vastly different ways of trying to get there.”
2017-10-30 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 186 - Bakari Sellers · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“My trajectory is from friends that were really interesting. Mick is a friend. So Mick Mulvaney was budget director. Governor is budget director. Governor at the time was Mark Sanford. United States Congressman. The two years before I got elected, there was a young lady named Nicki Haley who got elected. To the legislature. Two years after I was elected, we had a young freshman legislator that I used to make go get me coffee and everything by the name of Tim Scott. And so I had some interesting experiences. But I remember during my orientation period,”
2017-10-30 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 186 - Bakari Sellers · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“During our orientation period, by the way, my freshman class was pretty cool. The vice president of my vice chair or whatever he was called, of my freshman class was none other than Mick Mulvaney.”
2017-10-30 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 186 - Bakari Sellers · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“It got pretty big. I had some law school friends that would come down. You know, we would have 20 people out there knocking sometimes. And I believe that I needed to touch each voter three times. That means I wanted to knock on their door. I wanted them to get a piece of mail from me and I wanted to call their home. And it was actually a decent strategy. I don't know if a strategy that unsophisticated could work anymore, but it did then.”
2017-10-30 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 186 - Bakari Sellers · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“$26,000. And for anyone listening who wants to go into politics, there is a virtue to running a campaign like that because I would get like $5 from the old lady who wore the big hat who sat on the front row in my church. But I mean, she wanted that $5 to win. So she was on the phone. She was making phone calls. She was baking brownies for my team. And so we didn't have any high-priced consultants or anything. We just had somebody who knew how to cut maps and people who wanted to knock on doors with me. That was the extent of our campaign.”
2017-10-30 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 186 - Bakari Sellers · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“And then for nine months, I had a plan. For nine months, every Friday night I was usually at a high school football game or basketball game. Every Saturday and Sunday, I was knocking on doors. And as the election got closer, I began to knock on more doors, but June thirteenth, two thousand six, I beat Representative Thomas Rode, who was 82 years old and the Otis member in the South Carolina House who had been in the legislature for 26 years. And before that, he was the chair of the county council. And before that, he delivered milk. And so everyone knew who he was. And we won fifty five to forty five. And it was just one of the best days of my life.”
2017-10-30 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 186 - Bakari Sellers · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“I just graduated from Warehouse. I was in my one L year of law school at the University of South Carolina. I came downstairs and I told my mom and dad I was going to run for the South Carolina House of Representatives. And my mom was cooking spaghetti and my dad was on the Cook Island going through the newspaper as he always does. And without any hesitation, my mom said, I'll vote for you. And my dad said, I'll think about it. And so that was my announcement to them that I was going to do it. And I went out and I had maybe 40 people at my announcement.”
2017-10-30 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 186 - Bakari Sellers · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“You got to talk to David Beasley. Me and David Beasley get into this all the time. But yes, I was the youngest ever. He assumes that he was, but he's incorrect. I announced when I was In case he's listening, I announced when I was 21 years old. At our truck depot, train depot, excuse me”
2017-10-30 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 186 - Bakari Sellers · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“It was a low bar. It consumed me. And Jim Clyburn and Shirley Franklin, they taught me something that I live by today, which is it can never be about politics. It has to be about public service. And they didn't look at themselves as politicians, as shrewd and cunning as they both are. Yes. They looked at themselves as public servants. And so I would not.”
2017-10-30 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 186 - Bakari Sellers · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“The role of a congressional intern can be a humbling experience. It can be a humbling experience. And so I'll just tell you that we were very, very resentful of having to deliver Catherine Harris those peaches. But I tell that story just to say that you were always around the epicenter of power. And I mean, at that time, the discourse, maybe I just want to believe this, but the discourse was a lot more civil than it is now. But it just bar.”
2017-10-30 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 186 - Bakari Sellers · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“In Florida. And so one of the things that I remember is Catherine Harris was a new congressman and contrary to popular belief, South Carolina is the largest producer of peaches, not Georgian. And so every year one of the members of the South Carolina delegation would be able to deliver peaches to all 535 people. And Catherine Harris was my next stop. I was a baby. So you were delivering peaches. I was delivering peaches.”
2017-10-30 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 186 - Bakari Sellers · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“17 I think it was a sophomore in college. Freshman, sophomore in college, so 17. Who was the Secretary of State when the hanging chad episode came? Catherine Catherine Harris”
2017-10-30 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 186 - Bakari Sellers · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source