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Barton Gellman

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“He was. He was the mayor. That was a wild ride, that trial. I mean, it had everything had sex and drugs and dismissing the rock and roll.”
2022-01-13 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 473 — Barton Gellman · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Really was the subject I chose for my master's thesis was secrecy and national security. And that has been professional preoccupation of mine ever since. And I did a lot of hard thinking about when it's appropriate to keep secrets and when it's not and why it's appropriate for journalists to try to find out things, even classified things, and write about them.”
2022-01-13 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 473 — Barton Gellman · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“It was my default from then on. I mean, I knew I was going to join the college paper and I eventually became the editor of the college paper. And every summer I spent doing internships. I spent time. And the great thing about journalism internships is you can be 19 or 20 or 21 and student just there for a couple of months and you're still writing byline stories. And if you write a good enough story, you might end up on the front page. So I work for the Miami Herald and New Republic and National Journal. And I learned from professionals sitting among them in the newsroom.”
2022-01-13 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 473 — Barton Gellman · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Large part because of that. I mean, I was lucky enough to have something happen to me young that forced me to think hard about what I cared about and definitely pushed me in the direction of journalism.”
2022-01-13 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 473 — Barton Gellman · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Nothing like that. That's force against the high school principal. In any case, we ended up learning a lesson in humility because lawsuits take a long time. And my senior year progressed and college applications came and graduation came and the case was still in the courts. And we ended up winning. Favorable settlement when I was partway into my freshman year of college, which said we could publish the stories. But the principal had waited us out. We were all gone. And the new editor who would have been appointed by the principal had no interest in publishing the story. She had run out the clock very successfully and she understood the power relationship much better than we did. It was a lesson to me. I mean, I'd become interested in power and its use and abuse over the years.”
2022-01-13 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 473 — Barton Gellman · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Yeah, well, I mean, there's no autocrat greater than an angry high school princess. and her name was almost from a movie her name was Wacker doctor Wacker. Any case, she fired me as the editor and locked me out of the office and literally burned all the papers. And my co-editors and I brought First Amendment lawsuit in federal court. This is at a time when the big precedent was a case called Tinker against Des Moines, which said that the Constitution doesn't end at the schoolhouse gate. And we were filled with youthful outrage.”
2022-01-13 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 473 — Barton Gellman · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Desire to shake things up. So we did a deliberately provocative three-part series in the paper about Teenage pregnancy and the phenomenon at our own school. which the principle was not fond of, and she warned us not to publish it. But I had spent the whole summer before that school year selling ads so that we were independent. And I purposely moved it to an outside printer so it wasn't printed in the school anymore, thinking, ha, that will make me immune from principal's objections. And she just sent an administrative aid over to the printer and seized all the papers and burned them.”
2022-01-13 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 473 — Barton Gellman · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Anyway, go ahead. I mean, For a long time, just sort of a raw, raw rag, the school paper. And I was interested in an upgrade, I guess. This is all an account of having to try something new after I washed out of the gymnastics team. I was really quite a bad gymnast, it turned out. So I joined the paper. I became editor of the paper and found out about a summer internship or a summer enrichment program at Columbia Journalism School for high school students and went to that and came back all filled with ambition Dreams of the First Amendment”
2022-01-13 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 473 — Barton Gellman · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“My mom was a schoolteacher. She was a music teacher, and she was actually The one who was more involved in the news of the day and the political news ran for and was elected local committee woman at one point.”
2022-01-13 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 473 — Barton Gellman · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Well, my dad started off as a journalist. He worked for the old evening bulletin in Philadelphia, which was the afternoon paper that long since ceased to exist. He walked away from journalism into public relations and started up his own little firm. He liked working for himself. I remember one of my childhood memories is him taking a sledgehammer to the wall between the basement and the garage as he was creating a little office in there.”
2022-01-13 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 473 — Barton Gellman · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source