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Belle Burden

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  1. “Yes, I think it's hard for me to say that because I watched her lose my father and how horrible that was to be a widow. But she's a therapist. She told me, and she believes that it's worse because he is out there living a different life. And I had to really look back at our love story and reevaluate it and feel that rejection, which is so painful. But my children still have a father and a lot of, you know, when there's death people lose important people to that.”

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  2. “Exactly. I think that's right. And what changed it for me is shifting the focus because I wasn't going to, it was like trying to get blood from a stone. I wasn't going to get it from him. So I had to shift the focus to myself. My stepmother's a family therapist and she uses this trick where you picture.”

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  3. “I couldn't get to it, and I worried actually that readers would be frustrated that I never get to it. But I think what happened for me. I think it's done the opposite”

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  4. “I really agree. I really agree. And I had to get there on my own because I thought I could. Land on an answer. And that was key to being able to accept this. And I never got that answer. I didn't get it from him. I didn't get it from my detective work. I just never got it. And what shifted it for me? That's”

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  5. “I think I did. I would say that definitely shock, disbelief, anger was never the dominant emotion. And I certainly felt it at times. I think I was so overwhelmed by sadness and shock that anger came in spurts, but it was not the dominant thing. And I wrestled with it later again. And then I think there was bargaining probably was there. And then acceptance definitely was. I ended there.”

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  6. “No, that's definitely not. And in some cases, it is because there's conflict and there are a lot of issues, but you have to communicate that you're unhappy. You have to give someone a chance to go to therapy or discuss or something like that. So I resisted, and I still resist that idea that it was 50-50.”

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  7. “I think it's one of those things that if it happens like this to you, it's frustrating when people say, oh, well, it takes two to tango. Two people have to end a marriage. And I don't think that's fair because I think that. You need at least a beak to be able to. That's not somebody who's been through.”

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  8. “And I'm having a dialogue with myself that I think a lot of mothers have, which is I should model We are going to be kind to each other, that we're going to work together, that we're not going to be nasty ever, that there will be love and caring here, even if we're divorcing. So you made this side one out. And I went into the kitchen and I made the sandwich. And as I'm making it, I think I am going to make the best sandwich ever. I will not make a terrible sandwich. I want him to leave thinking.”

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  9. “And part of my brain thought, yes. Yes. Part of my brain thought. Used to live here. Go make your own sandwich. I'm not going to make you a sandwich. And then I my younger daughter had run down the stairs. She was very upset. And my older daughter was sitting there with her arms crossed looking at her father.”

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  10. “And he came in and we sat in our living room. I had my arms around both girls. And he told them that we were divorcing, that he hadn't been happy. And it's just that terrible moment. It's terrible for any family when this news is delivered to kids.”

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  11. “And I felt mixed about him coming because he was in New York. I was worried he would bring COVID. I didn't know what kind of person was going to show up because we had not been in, we had not been communicating. Finally, he decided he should be there in person to tell the girls. And we called my son beforehand. And then he arrived. And my first thought when I saw him coming up our walkway was that he seemed really happy. He seemed elated.”

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  12. “It was a month. I thought we've got to tell them this is crazy. We've got to tell them. And initially he didn't want to come. He wanted me to tell them”

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  13. “Your whole being, and I spend a lot of time on the bathroom floor, which you think is a cliche, but it's actually not. I think we spend a lot of time there because no one will come in the room. And also it's like this cold floor that it made me feel like I wasn't going to fall through the earth. It holds you up.”

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  14. “And then my younger one was 12, and I also have a 17 year old boy who was with his friends. And the younger one did not know. But then when she found out afterwards, she felt betrayed that I hadn't told her. So I think that was a mistake. I wish I had told them. I said their dad had gone back to New York to go to work, even though New York was shut down. And I wish I had just said,”

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  15. “I just pretended like I was okay, even though my eyes were swollen. My older daughter actually knew she read a text on my iPad almost immediately, which happens a lot, I think. So she knew and she had to pretend that she didn't know. And then my younger daughter didn't know. But then I think after.”

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  16. “I didn't. A therapist advised that I wait because the pandemic was so scary, and so that we should wait till the pandemic was less scary. And of course, that never happened. Right. And I thought I was hiding it from them. I did not do a good job. I was crying all the time. I had trouble getting out of bed for a very long time.”

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  17. “Yes, she's absolutely dismissed. And it happens very quickly. Even though he did something that was fairly unhinged to walk out on your family during a pandemic. Yes.”

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  18. “At that point, he had stopped answering my phone calls. And told me that I was too upset for him to speak to, but I caught him in the middle of the night. He picked up the phone at about 1 a.m. because I was spiraling thinking that he had actually fathered them. And he said, stop, you have lost your mind. And he hung up the phone. But that seemed in this world where everything that I thought was impossible was now possible. I thought even that could be possible. Yeah.”

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  19. “It didn't feel that way. I felt a real intimacy with him. And I did accept a little bit of remove. He was a little bit removed, a little bit distant. But I felt like that was a quirk in his personality. And I guess there was more bubbling beneath the surface, maybe.”

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  20. “The man that I thought I knew would never have done that to me. I really thought he was a very devoted, mild, kind person, and he had never told me once that he was unhappy.”

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  21. “Yes, okay, on Martha's Vineyard. Exactly. And he went to New York, I believe, to see her. And it was that moment that he became someone I really did not recognize.”

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  22. “That she stole the attention. Yes, yes, that's how it felt. And then I didn't sleep that night. He did. But at six in the morning, he came into my room, fully dressed with a tote bag packed. And his whole effect had changed. It was very cold. His eyes were very icy. And he said to me, I've decided I want a divorce. I thought I was happy, but I'm not. And I'm going to leave right now. And he did. He walked out of our house. He got in his jeep. He got on a ferry and he left the island.”

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  23. “No, I'm actually a little bit just shocked that she wasn't worried about me either. She kind of stole the attention. In a way when I really deserved that attention.”

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  24. “Yeah, you're already out of the picture. They're already a mile ahead of you. That's how it felt. And I should have known that night that this was not going to get better. And in fact, it did get a lot worse.”

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  25. “I wasn't quite able to put my head around it. I just knew that everything had changed. Even in that moment. And then it changed a lot more later But I just thought, wait, something is really wrong with this picture and something is really wrong with both of them, actually, because I'm the one who's gotten this devastating news, yet no one is concerned about me.”

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  26. “About her. And it was such a cold feeling thinking that he was worried about her He told me she's going to be fine. She took some sleeping pills. She's going to be okay. And then a few hours passed, he went to sleep. I stayed in my room in torment.”

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  27. “And I went to find my husband. He was in our guest room and he was on the phone with her. And he was almost hunched over the phone in this very caretaking pose. And I remember thinking, he's caretaking of her and not of me. And he's just, I've just learned that our marriage is in crisis and he's had an affair.”

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  28. “Girlfriend, yeah, his wife, my husband's mistress And I felt such worry then for this woman I'd never met. And I went to find my husband. And he was a different.”

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  29. “And I texted the man who had called me. I wasn't quite ready to talk to him on the phone. And I said, Can you tell me how long this has been going on? And he said, I think about a month, so a little bit different And then he said, But I can't talk now because my wife is in an ambulance and she has tried to kill herself”

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  30. “And I went to my shower and closed the door, the glass door to my shower, and just started wailing and did in a place where my girls could not hear me.”

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  31. “Going to work through it. I asked some questions, I asked for her name, I asked if she had kids. He gave me those details. And then my younger daughter called for me and we had to end that conversation.”

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  32. “And it seemed like this great compromise. Lot to get it into the frame A lot of men come up and Sort of adjusted and put it in.”

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  33. “A couple of people have mentioned. Think about it a lot because it was such an investment. So accommodating of both of our tastes. He likes a very soft mattress. I”

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