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  1. It's exactly the exponential growth which we understand is before us, but we don't really, it's very hard to project forward.

    2023-07-12 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #389 – Benjamin Netanyahu: Israel, Palestine, Power, Corruption, Hate, and Peace · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source

  2. The first question you ask somebody whom you just met after the polite exchanges is, what do you do, right? Well, people define themselves by their profession. And it's going to be difficult if you don't have a profession. And, you know, people will spend more time self-searching, more time in the arts, more time in leisure. I understand that. If I have to bet, it will annihilate many more jobs than it will create and it will force a structural change in our economics, in our economics models, and in our politics. And I'm not sure what it's going to go.

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  3. You're going to have to tax that to pass it to the others, okay? You're going to have to do that. That's a political question. I'm not sure how we answer that. What if you tax and somebody else doesn't tax, you're going to get everybody to go there? That's an issue, an international issue that we constantly have to deal with. And the second question you have is... Suppose you solve that problem and you deliver Money to those who are not involved in the AI economy. What do they do?

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  4. They said you're going to make the rich richer and the poor poor and made everyone richer. And actually the people who entered the job market because of the reforms we did actually became a lot richer and the lower ladders of the socioeconomic measure. But here's the point. I don't know. I don't know that we will not have What Elon Musk calls the end of scarcity. So you'll have the end of scarcity, you'll have enormous productivity Very few people are producing enormous added value.

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  5. I don't know about the long term, but I used to have the comfort being a free market guy. I always said, you know, we're going to produce more jobs than by, I don't know, limiting certain government jobs. We're actually putting out in the market will create more jobs, which obviously happen. You know, we had one telecom company, a government company, when I said we're going to create competition. They said you're going to run us out. We're not going to have more workers. Yeah, they had 13,000 workers. They went down to seven, but we created another 40,000 in the other companies. So that was a comforting thought. I always knew that was true. Not only that, I also knew that wealth would spread by opening up the markets completely opposite to the socialist and semi-socialist creed that they had here.

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  6. That all previous, the two big previous revolutions in the human condition, namely the agricultural revolution and the industrial revolution. Definitely produce more jobs than they consumed. That is not obvious to me at all. I mean, I could see new jobs creating, and yes, I have that comforting statement. But it's not quite true because I think on balance they'll probably consume more jobs, many more jobs than they'll create

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  7. Have to do it anyway for security reasons, and we're doing it. But I think what about? What about our databases that are already very robust on the medical records of 98% of our population? Why don't we stick a genetic database on that? Why don't we do other things that could bring magical or seemingly magical cures and drugs and medical instruments for that? That's one possibility. We have it in, as I said, in every single field. The conclusion is this. We have to move on AI. We are moving on AI just as we moved on cyber. And I think Israel will be one of the leading AI powers in the world. The questions I don't have an answer to is where does it go? How much does it eat? Chew up on jobs. An assumption that I'm not sure is true.

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  8. I read a novel. I don't read novels, but I was forced to read one by scientific advisor. I read history. I read about economics. I read about technology. I just don't read novels. And this I followed Churchill. He said fact is better than fiction. Well, this fiction would become fact. And it was a book. It was a novel about a Chinese-American future cyber war. And I read the book in one sitting, called in a theme of experts, and I said, all right, let's turn Israel into one of the world's five cyberpowers, and let's do it very quickly. And we did, actually. We did exactly that. I think AI is bigger than that and related to that because it'll affect, well, cyber affects everything, but AI will affect it even more fundamentally. And the joining of the two could be very powerful. So I think in Israel we have to.

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  9. Anyone deciding to avoid the race and cooperate unless you have that threat? Doesn't mean you can't regulate AI within countries, even without that understanding. But it does mean that there's a limit to regulation because every country will want to make sure that doesn't give up competitive advantage if there is no universal regulation. I think that right now, just as, you know, 10 years ago, I read...

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  10. There is no possibility of not entering AI with full force. Secondly, there is a need for regulation. Third, it's not clear there will be global regulation. Fourth, it's not clear where it ends up. I certainly cannot say that. Now, you might say, does it come to control us? Okay, that's a question. Does it come to control us? I don't know the answer to that. I think that as As one observation that I had from these conversations is if it does come to control us, that's probably the only chance of having universal regulation because I don't see...

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  11. First of all, I have a high regard for the people I talk to. And I understand that they understand things I don't understand, and I don't pretend to understand everything, but I do understand one thing. I understand that AI is developing at a geometric rate. And mostly in political life and in life in general, people don't have an intuitive grasp of geometric growth. You understand things basically in linear increments. And the idea that you're coming up a ski slope is very foreign to people. So I don't understand it. And they're naturally also sort of taken aback by it. Because what do you do? So I think there's several conclusions from my conversations with them and from my other observations that I've been talking about for many years. I'm talking about the need to do this. Well, the first thing is this.

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  12. close disciplinary fermentation of various skills and areas I would say it's in Israel and I'll tell you why we used to be just telecoms because people went out of the military intelligence RNSA but that's been now broad based so you find it in medicine you find it in biology you find it in agritech you find it everywhere everything is becoming technologized and in Israel everybody is dealing in everything and that's a potent reservoir of talent that the the world is not going to pass up and in fact is coming to us we just had NVIDIA coming here and they decided to build a supercomputer in Israel wonder why we've had Intel coming here and deciding now to invest $25 billion just now in a new plant in Israel I wonder why I don't wonder why They know why because the talent is here and the freedom is here, then it will remain so.

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  13. Our security services creating basically knowledge workers who then become knowledge entrepreneurs. And so we create this structure. And that's not going to go away. There's been a decline in investments in high-tech globally. I think that's driven by many factors, but the most important one is the interest rate, which I think it'll fluctuate up and down. But Israel will remain a very attractive country because it produces so many, so many knowledge workers in a knowledge-based economy. And it's changing so rapidly. The world is changing. You're looking for the places that have innovation. The future belongs to the innovate. Israel is the... Preeminent innovation nation. It has few competitors and if we would say, all right, where do you have?

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  14. Because Israel is a free market economy. I had something to do with that. I introduced dozens and dozens of free market reforms that made Israel move from $17,000 per capita income to within a very short time to $54,000. That's nominal GDP per capita, according to the IMF. And we've overtaken in that Japan, France, Britain, Germany. How did that happen? Because we unleashed the genius that we have and the initiative and the entrepreneurship that is latent in our population. And to do that, we had to create free markets. So we created that. So Israel has one of the most vibrant free market economies in the world. And the second thing we have is a permanent investment in conceptual products because we have a permanent investment in the military.

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  15. Of judges and in the Israeli system, the judicial activism went so far that effectively the sitting judges have an effective veto on choosing judges, which means that this is a self-selecting court that just perpetrates itself. And we want to correct that. Again, we want to correct it in a balanced way. And that's basically what we're trying to do. So I think there's a lot of misinformation about that. We're trying to bring Israeli democracy to where it was in its first 50 years. And it was a stellar democracy. It still is. Israel is a democracy. It will remain a democracy, a vibrant democracy. And believe me, the fact that people are arguing and demonstrating in the streets and protesting is the best proof of that. And that's how it'll remain.

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  16. So let's move it back into the center. So that's gone. And most of the criticism on the judicial reform was based on an unlimited override clause, which I've said is simply not going to happen. People are discussing something that already for six months does not exist. The second point that we receive criticism on was the structure of how do you choose Supreme Court judges? How do you choose them? The critics of the reform are saying that the idea that elected officials should choose Supreme Court judges is the end of democracy. If that's the case, the United States is not a democracy, neither is France and other are just, I don't know, just about every democracy on the planet. So there is a view here that you can't have the sordid hands of elected officials involved in the choosing.

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  17. And was gradually overtaken and basically broken by the most activist judicial court on the planet. That's what happened here. And gradually over the last Two, three decades, the court arrogated for itself the powers of the parliament and the executive. So we're trying to bring it back into line. Bringing it back into line into what is common in all parliamentary democracies and in the United States doesn't mean taking the pendulum from one side and bringing it to the other side. We want checks and balances, not unrivaled power. Just as we said, we want an independent judiciary, but not in all powerful judiciary. That balance does not mean bringing it back into line doesn't mean that you can have the parliament arknesset override any decision that the Supreme Court does. So I pretty much early on said after the judicial reform was introduced, get rid of the idea of sweeping override clause that would have with 61 votes, that's majority of one, you can just nullify any Supreme Court decision.

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  18. So democracy is the will of the majority and the protection of the rights of, they call it the rights of the minority, but I say the rights of the individual. So how do you balance the two? How do you get the, how do you avoid macrocy and how do you avoid dictatorship, the opposite side? The way you avoid it is something that was built essentially by British philosophers and French philosophers, but was encapsulated by the founding fathers of the United States. You create a balance between the three branches of government. The legislator, the executive, and the judiciary. And this balance is what assures the balance between majority rights and individual rights. And you have to balance all of them. That balance was maintained in Israel in its first

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  19. No, I think that's complete hogwash because I think there's very few people who are demonstrating against this, quite a few, quite many, don't have an idea what is being discussed. They're basically being sloganized. You can sloganize, you know something about, not mass media right now, but the social network. You can basically feed deliberately with big data and big money. You can just feed slogans and get into people's minds. I'm sure you don't think I exaggerate because you can tell me more about that. And you can create mass mobilization based on these absurd slogans. So here's where I come from and what we're doing, what we're trying to do and what we've changed in what we're trying to do. I'm a 19th century Democrat in my small D, yes, in my views. That is, I view, I ask the question, what is democracy?

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  20. Well, that's ridiculous. The mere fact that you have so many demonstrations and protests, some dictatorship, huh? There's a lot of democracy here, more ambunctuous and more robust than just anywhere on the planet.

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  21. I don't distinguish between the two. You can't say, well, I'm okay with Jews, but I just don't think there should be a Jewish state. It's like saying, I'm not anti-American. I just don't think there should be an America. That's basically what people are saying vis- ⁇-vis anti-Semitism and anti-Zionism. When you're saying anti-Zionism, you're saying the Jewish people don't have a right to have a state of their own. That is a denial of a basic... A basic principle that I think completely unmasks what is involved here. Today, anti-Semitism is anti-Zionism. Those who oppose the Jewish people oppose the Jewish state.

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  22. But what I've learned is that you have to nip bad things in the bud. You have to, there's a Latin term that says obsta prinkipi, stop bad things when they're small. And the deliberate hatred, the... Of hatred against one community, its demonization, delegitimization that goes with it is a very dangerous thing. And that happened in the case of the Jews, what started with the Jews soon spread to all of humanity. So what we've learned is that's what we should never, and I never sit aside and say, oh, they're just threatening to destroy us. They won't do it. If somebody threatens to eliminate you, as Iran is doing today, and as Hitler did then, and people discounted it, well, if somebody threatens to annihilate us, take them seriously and act to prevent it early on. Don't let them have the means to do so because that may be too late.

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  23. Talk about AI in a minute, but changing the world for the better and spreading this among six continents. We've sent rescue teams more than any other country in the world, and we're one-tenth of one percent of the world's population. But when there's an earthquake or a devastation in Haiti or in the Philippines as well as there, when there is an earthquake, a devastating earthquake in Turkey, Turkey, Israel was there. When there's something in Nepal, Israel is there. And it's a second country. It's the second country after, in one case, India or after another case, the United States, Israel is there. Tiny Israel is a benefactor to all of humanity.

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  24. Well, I think they don't know very much. I think they're guided by a lot of ignorance. They don't know about Israel. They don't know that Israel is a stellar democracy, that it happens to be one of the most advanced societies on the planet that what Israel develops helps humanity in every field in medicine and agriculture and the environment and telecoms

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  25. Want to hear what we have to say, what I have to say as the leader of Israel whom they respect increasingly as a rising power in the world. So I disagree with that. And the most important thing that goes against what you said is the respect that we receive from the Arab world and the fact that we've made four historic peace agreements with Arab countries. They made it with me. They didn't make it with anyone else. And I respect them and they respect me. And probably more to come. So I think the premise is wrong. That's all.

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  26. I disagree with the premise of your question. I think I have enjoyed a very broad support around the world. There are certain corners in which we have Have this animosity that you describe, and it sort of permeates in some of the. The newspapers and news organs and so on in the United States, but it certainly doesn't reflect the broad support that I have. I just gave an interview on an Iranian channel. 16 million viewers. I gave another one. I just did a little video a few years ago, 25 million viewers from Iran. Certainly no hate there, I have to tell you. Not from the regime. And when I go around the world and I've been around the world, people...

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