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  1. “But look, I've been so lucky, I've been so fortunate to keep my health. And Hillary and I've had very rewarding lives in public service. So I'm glad I had a chance to live this life. And what I want other people to think about is there are all kinds of people in totally different circumstances who still have to decide what they're going to do with each new day. And they reach a point in their career where they can't do what they used to do. So now what are they going to do? And I think it starts with what you care about, what you're good at, what you're willing to invest time getting better at, and mostly how you keep score. As I said, that's the song you sing to yourself.”

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  2. “When I started, children had a broader future, and we were coming together instead of falling apart. Now, in a mega sense, it's hard to assert, particularly the last one, but we are still living in a world with the resources to heal all of our big problems. The problem we've got now is however justified all this negative populism is, whether you believe it is or isn't. However, tempting it is because it seems to be so emotionally fulfilling to some people. It doesn't work very well.”

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  3. “And I've done that. Everything has some political traction, I guess, but not everything is primarily politics. So I've tried to basically work wherever I could make a difference. And I think that whether you are a world leader or whether you want to be or what you used to be, if you're still active, the truth is we all keep scoring life. You keep scoring on this podcast. You do. I mean, whether you're conscious of it or not, congratulations on how many listeners you have and how widespread it is, but you keep score. And I tried to say in this book that I made a decision that I was going to leave politics and spend as little time as humanly possible wishing I could still have a job I couldn't have anymore. And I just don't waste any time doing that. And instead, think of what I could still do, where when I finish, I could say what I want to say yes to. People would be better off when I quit.”

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  4. “Well, first of all, I think it's really important all the time because there are always gaps in what the private sector produces and what the government provides just generally. At this time, when there's so much disagreement about what government should and shouldn't do, I think it can be more important. But I think that the best philanthropy is philanthropy that mixes charitable efforts with government efforts with private sector efforts and tries to work out a common agenda. And that's what we did with the Clinton Global Initiative. Come to our meeting across the political spectrum, but we expect you to commit to do something, to do something that makes one of these big problems better. I think this stuff really matters. And it's been incredibly rewarding to do. And I've also been asked to work on a lot of natural disasters.”

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  5. “And I think that was a contributing factor to the disorientation in the world. I'm still not sure we didn't have to try because we need to work with China. We need to work with them on climate change matters. We need to work with them on North Korea and other nuclear and militarily related matters. We need to try to persuade them not to go any further with Taiwan and in the South China Sea with the Philippines. So I'm glad I worked as hard as I did to try to build a constructive relationship. But you could certainly look at subsequent developments and say, well, I've made a mistake. I don't think I did, but it's a lot closer question given how it's all played out.”

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  6. “We had a hard time enforcing the agreements we made. I was more than happy to enforce them and bring a lot of trade actions. But still, if a country's as big and strong as China, it's hard to have enough enforcement to overcome the benefits of going around the agreement. And what I did not foresee was the same thing happening in China that happened in Russia in a way. When President Xi came in, he made it pretty clear that he was going to try to stay forever. You know, we're not going to have any of this two-term business, get rid of that. And he was highly intelligent and strong-willed, but he was always, you know, threatening America if we didn't do this, that or the other thing. And that's one where we took a chance and we hope we would stay on the path. And China basically said, we're big, we're strong, and we're going to do this our way. We're big enough so that we don't have to honor the commitments we made.”

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  7. “If you want to say that I did something wrong. Be on stronger grounds there than on anything with regard to Putin and Russia. I like Jiang Zhu Men very much. I thought he was an excellent leader. I thought he and Zurangxi, his prime minister, would basically honor their commitments in bringing them into the family of trading nations. And I thought it would, over the not just long term, over the medium term, help us to have a fairer trade relationship with China than if we did nothing. Because keep in mind, particularly after I left office when the Republicans won again, they went back to trickle-down economics. So they were spending all this money on tax cuts. Our deficits were great. We had to borrow a lot of money every year. We were borrowing a lot of it from China. And it's hard to pick a fight with your banker every day. So I was worried about it. But I believed if we wrote the agreements properly, it would do more good than harm. And as it's played out,”

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  8. “I think he would be disappointed that we're all estranged from each other in the way we are. Whether he'd be surprised, I'm not sure. Yeltsin was no dummy, but he wanted Russia to be stronger than he thought they were after its health began to fail. But he did not like authoritarianism, and he was not afraid of the people. He was not afraid to face the electorate in an honest election. He was a fascinating man and better, I think, than he got credit for.”

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  9. “But that's where we are. He's a formidable person. But as you see, there are limits to what he can do. His obsession with Ukraine didn't leave him many cards to play with this surprising development in Syria. And he'd always been active there. He wanted to be. So that's kind of where I think we are.”

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  10. “I respected the fact that if you were respectful with him, he would tell you what he was going to do. I mean, my last meeting with him was a long time ago, official meeting was 2010. We only see each other at funerals now. But I met with him in 2010, and I was talking to him about Ukraine. He said, I know what you're going to say. I know you made a deal with Boris Nikolaevich to protect the territorial integrity of Ukraine in return for Ukraine giving up their nuclear weapons and putting them under supervision of the international authority, but within Russia. But he said, let me remind you, he never got the Duma to ratify that agreement. So it does not have a force of treaty. And I do not agree with it, and I will not observe it. I mean, basically said in 2010, four full years before he took Crimea that he was coming after Ukraine. And I dutifully reported it to the government, went on my business.”

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  11. “Had a lone visit, I could tell he was beginning to worry because Yelson did not like communism and basically did not like authoritarianism. So he wanted Putin to be a strong leader, but he got a little more than he asked for. And it was all perfectly understandable. But still, Putin performed quite well in its first term. And then he switched out, you remember and became prime minister. And Mr. Medediff became president. And then they switched back. But I think something really fundamental happened once Russia became basically almost a kleptocracy. And even more important, once President Putin decided to stay for life. Because once you decide to stay for life, if you live in a system where you can do it, it changes everything because you care most about weakening any potential opposition. That's my take on it. But I always had a really good relationship with Putin because I respected his intelligence. He's really smart.”

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  12. “Well, briefly, we work together for 10 months. We had a good relationship. I tried not to fight with him in public. I tried to work things out. And I knew that Yeltsin got out because he wanted to be succeeded by someone that he thought had more energy and more physical strength because he was fading pretty badly and he thought he would protect his family from the rough politics of Russia internally. I understood all that, but I also could see that he Putin thought Yeltsin had worked too closely with the West and that they needed to take a harder line. And I think he thought that because he thought it, but I also think he believed that Russia needed to be a bigger player on the world stage. And to do that, they'd have to be tougher and a little more ruthless. And I remember when I saw Yelson not long before he died, I went down to his place in the country and we”

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  13. “Cost of the election. And he had to post that article and his analysis on an extended tweet to text it because none of the newspapers wanted his article. So, you know, yeah, they should own that. When you work as hard as they did for something, you ought to take pride in achieving it, not deny it.”

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  14. “Of the election day, if they weren't going to indict somebody. He broke that rule knowing that there was absolutely as close to zero as you could get chance that there was anything wrong. He did it because he, I think he was delusional about his power and wisdom, and I think he also was afraid of the Republican right and not afraid of the White House and others. But we do know that. She dropped overnight five to six points in the polls. I've never seen that happen before since. And then she got, you know, give or take about half of it back, except in the swing states where she lost by four and a half points. That would have given her Pennsylvania, Michigan, Wisconsin, Florida, which she only lost by 1.2 points. And Nate Silver, who used to be the darling of the political media, said that you have to turn yourself into a pretzel to think that Comey did.”

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  15. “You can't blame a guy if somebody drives up in front of your office today with the most elaborate Rolls-Royce or Bentley that you produce over there and let you have it for a few weeks. Nobody can blame you for going around the park. So I didn't blame Trump. But if you pretend to be the referee in any kind of athletic match, you can't wear the uniform of the other team. You have to actually try to be a referee and tell the truth. And they didn't. And you can say, how can I say that with such confidence? Because we were, by the time James Comey reopened his email investigation, knowing that there was a better than 99% chance that there was nothing to it, knowing that the Republican committee was phony. We knew that. And there was a 70-year-old rule that said the FBI did not interfere with an election within two months.”

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  16. “She followed the rules. And yet for more than a year, the press tried to give people the impression that somehow what she was doing was shady. And then when John Kerry did the same thing until the rules were changed, they said that, oh, he sometimes did that. And if you looked at all the explanations, they went out of their way not to tell the American people that she had followed the rules of the T, that there never was a single one. And they gave this more coverage than anything else. Why? Because they wanted to cult race. They thought she couldn't lose. And as a result of that in time passing, she was nowhere near the same person to the voters in 2016 that she had been in 2008 when she and President Obama were running against each other when the voters really liked her and she would have walked in if she'd won the nomination. So the only thing that I was angry about, I wasn't so mad at Trump.”

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  17. “I agree with them. It was better for Russia to have Trump there than have Hillary there. So that's that. Now, on Comey, we have very good data. And I wrote about this so much, partly because the mainstream political media was in some financial distress. They have to make money. They get more money out of clicks and retweets online. And negative stuff sells more. Donald Trump's State Department admitted that Hillary neither sent nor received a single solitary email more confidential on her personal devices. And the rules under which a Secretary of State was permitted to use personal emails were clearer. They could do it because they traveled a lot and they were doing 50 different things and talking to people all over the world all the time, but they had to save any work-related emails and turn them over when they were asked.”

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  18. “First of all, Putin may have, I say may because the data is harder to retrieve and calculate there, but it may be that he turned a relatively narrow electoral victory into an electoral college loss because the Russians are very good at this. And Trump kept saying indignantly, there was no collusion. Well, they gave him data and other stuff, but there didn't have to be back then because back then the Russians were better than the American right at, you know, managing this campaign online. So it was just simple, and he didn't like Obama, Hillary was the Secretary of State and had to play the bad guy role from time to time. And he knew, as he said in Helsinki, in front of Donald Trump. They had a press conference together, and he said, yes, I did everything I could to help him because I thought it was better for Russia.”

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  19. “He became credible as their destroyer, if you will. I think probably because of the years he spent on that show, The Apprentice. Firing people and knowing how they felt. And they watched him grind people down and he said, look, I know this. I've made a lot of money in the system that we have. And I know how to turn it to your benefit. It was a very clever way to say it.”

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  20. “I don't want to take it to the grave, but I was angry not so much at Donald Trump, he was who he is. And he was entitled to run and say whatever he wanted. But it was amazing to me how the establishment political press didn't see him for the significant force that he would turn out to be. I mean, I remember the first time I saw him with 20 or so other Republicans on the stage in Florida in 2000, either late 14 or early 15. And I told some people who were sitting there with us that this guy has got an excellent chance to win the primary. And they thought I was looney tunes. And I said, you just don't have any idea what it's like in the parts of America where people feel there's been insufficient economic opportunity and a loss of social status and political standing. I said, you know, you just don't understand how people think out there. He does. He understands that. And somehow.”

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  21. “Gaza, they were really against anything that affected Judea and Samaria, the biblical Judea and Samaria. And Prime Minister Netanyahu's father, who just passed away at 107, was basically the Bunderkind of the Lakud party working for Jabotinsky, its founder, and in opposition to David Menurion and Shimon Perris at the beginning. This stuff has a long history, but you've got to give it to the state. That's one thing they have been consistent about from the beginning. After Prime Minister Rabin was assassinated and the family of the young men who did it were part of one of those extreme settlers groups. Prime Minister Netanyahu did have to work with us on some things and we made a few agreements. But it was by far the worst political track. That, in my opinion, during my eight years.”

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  22. “He wants to stay for life too. Maybe just to keep the legal dogs at bay, but he's in a position now where with the narrowest of coalitions and two extreme right-wing territorialist extremists in his cabinet, he can hold on because no one else can put together a government to dislodge him when the number one thing they want it now is somebody who will fight. One of the things that Hamas did is to give Bibi a new lease on life. And if in the month or so after October 7th, there could have been a referendum in Israel. I don't think he could have won it because they clearly weren't prepared for this. And a lot of people in the kibbutzim border in Gaza were telling the Israeli government all along that something's going on here. There seem to be practicing. There's things that are happening. I think that it's something of a miracle, but he just kept fighting. And keep in mind, unlike the Labor Party, Prime Minister.”

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  23. “But it's not me. It was anybody seriously think that the Palestinians in Gaza or the West Bank are better off today than they would have been if they'd taken this deal. So there's something more to it. I know there is, and I don't know what it is, but I do think it has to be part of the embedded mirror. And a lot of people say, well, that doesn't justify what the far right wing Israeli government is. I agree with that. But if you walk away from a deal like that where there's the body of an Israeli prime minister who literally risked his life and gave it. And then the wreckage of the Labor Party in Israel because they stayed with the peace process. If you walk away from a deal like that, you can't come back in 20 years and say, well, okay, now we want it or nothing was supposed to change. You can't do that. Something's going to happen. Just like things have happened in America, things have happened in the UK. Things happen.”

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  24. “North Korea and their nuclear and missile programs. And our friends in North Asia would have a much better run in the future if we could do that. But if I do it, I'll have to be gone 12 days. And this was when I had like six weeks left in office. And it's the only time Arafat ever cried. He said, oh, you can't do that. I said, I can't do it because you're going to take the peace deal. Have it looked like I made you do it. And he laughed. He said, sure. And I said, okay, but you owe it to me to tell me the truth. I said, do you think I care about your kids? He said, oh, far more than the Arabs do. He said, you know, they just need us to be victims when they want to make the United States or the EU look bad. So anyway, that was a conversation then.”

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  25. “In the north to alleviate population congestion or in the west for agriculture. Nobody knows that. And so you've got Hamas then later taking over Gaza and then never having another election. And not ought to tell you something. They never had another, never allowed another election in Gaza. So now somebody asked me the other day, well, this is great, but where are the Palestinians going to get their state? And basically all the trust, all the work, everything was slowly destroyed. And I still believe that the best outcome as close as we can get to the deal we pulled together. I mean, where's the land going to come from? So it was truly heartbreaking. And the only thing that I was really mad at Arafat about is I went to Gaza. I addressed the Palestinian parliament. We were working together after Camp David. He came down to see me in the Oal office, just the two of us. And I said, you know, I can go to North.”

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  26. “Come up with a new idea. But in those four years, three times as many young Israelis and three times as many young Palestinians were killed in acts of political violence as in the previous eight years. So when we were working it and working with the Palestinians, we could make progress. But, you know, now that's a long time. And I understand like you had young Muslims in America voting against President Biden because we helped Israel with military weapons. And they had no idea what the strategic implications were that the Iranians and Hezbollah and the Houthis had switched to helping Gaza. They had no idea what they had turned down. I talked to all these groups all the time. I said, you understand the deal was for 96% of the West Bank to go to a Palestinian state and 4% of Israel either”

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  27. “Well, I feel that way for two reasons. First of all, I had extraordinary leaders to work with. And I would include Arafat. Arafat was a positive force for many years. But Rabin, along with Tony Blair and Nelson Mandela, Helmut Colworth, the person I felt closest to international politics. He was an extraordinary man. And as we all know, he was willing to give his life to get a state for the Palestinians and a long-term peace of stability. It cost him his life. And then it cost Hud Barak, who was the most decorated soldier in the history of the Israeli Defense Force. It cost him and his party not just an election when Arafat turned the deal down, but also arguably their existence as a viable political force. So, yeah, I was upset about it. Look, it was all worth doing in the four years after I left office. And President Bush, to be fair to him, tried to...”

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  28. “Different parents, we had different circumstances, and we were taught by different people. And the distance turned out not to be so great. Once someone else showed up who had a much more radical view, like, you know, George Bush and I, we used to joke we didn't think we agreed on anything and then turned out we did. And then Donald Trump had a different one again. He was the son of a New York real estate developer and his major political advisor as a young man was Roy Cohn, who was Senator Joseph McCarthy's eminence grease until McCarthy had to leave the Congress and Eisenhower and the more moderate Republicans finally found a way to undo him with a little help from himself. And then Cohn came back to New York. But he had a ferocious belief that you should always try to win by denying everything that's inconvenient and attacking your opponent and accusing them of doing.”

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  29. “Well, it was the first full year after World War II, and we were beginning to try to build a world that would be more peaceful, we hoped. But also we had to face forces that made it more difficult to build broad-based unity. So, for example, we had the United Nations and then we had to figure out what that was and what its mission would be and how it would affect us. And then we had the rise of the Soviet Union and then the rise of China and then all that came afterward. Africa beginning to get appropriate notice and becoming stronger. India becoming significant economic force in the world. And I just think over time we are all playing to catch up, hoping we can recover a sense of purpose, direction, and energy that animated our countries ever so briefly during the Second World War. So we've had to basically build a new plane to take us to the...”

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  30. “To work together to slowly meld their political system became as a result of the political and economic crises of the last 20 years a deeply threatening thing to many people so that the last thing they wanted was people who were highly experienced in the past. It was almost as if having been successful in one system made you ineligible for election in the new world that they think needs to be forged. And people are what seems to be or was once disabling behavior is no longer such a problem because people are more worried about the world they knew crumbling around them without some certainty of where they're going to be in the new world. And I think that that is a recipe for what I would call negative populism. That is you may not win in this new deal, but at least they'll lose.”

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  31. “Well, I think we got used to winning elections and we forgot that every one of them had to be hard fought and that it wasn't just some sort of automatic thing. I think in the United States at least, I think we have overestimated the influence of pollsters and political consultants and underestimated the importance of connections, maintaining connections with voters. That's why I think there is very little concern that Trump seems to be appointing people of shall we say limited experience and highly targeted toward his message. I think it's because people have lost faith in establishments everywhere. And this is true, I believe, in Europe. And there's just been so much upheaval. So let's look at the European project. What was a project that seemed to offer the opportunity for people to move across borders, to live in other countries?”

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  32. “And that's only partly true. So the Republicans in America always attacked us where we're strong. And they always believe they can peel off enough people. And their base, while smaller, is harder core. So that's one problem. The other problem is that if politics seems irrelevant to the lives of ordinary people, they may not vote and the people on the populist right they always vote, or at least typically they vote in larger numbers in America than the alternative. And that's basically what happened in this last election. If you look at it, we did lose some ground, but we lost more ground among people who didn't vote at all than we did on people switching sides.”

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  33. “First of all, our tasks may be somewhat less complex than they are in the UK or in Europe where you have multi-party systems. And on the other hand, you don't have an electoral college. So if you can put together a coalition of people who are more like you than like the right, you can still win there with coalition politics. But it means they tend to be fragile all along the way. If we win here at least, we get four years in the White House and we get a couple of mid-term elections to fight about. So the politics are different, but I think that there was a period when the center-left was afflicted with two wrong-headed notions. One was that we were somehow in a demographic majority in America because we have so much racial, ethnic, and religious diversity and that people would vote predictably based on their education levels and their past and all of that.”

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  34. “Arrangements that they believe in. So people ask me all the time is this about identity or economics? And the answer is both.”

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  35. “That is, of politics that treats diversity as an asset. And no one can repeal it, but the idea is to make people around the edges feel that identity is a zero-sum game, not a positive sum game. And I think a lot of it is the extreme income inequality that we've seen in America beginning with a financial crash in 2008. Things were getting very tough. as you saw in the UK the left moved left basically saying the government can fix all this. And a lot of this is about culture, how we treat each other, how we live together, what we hold on to and what we give up. And it's highly complicated, but mostly it's about the sense that life is being constantly upended and a lot of people want to hold on to at least what they've got and to do better without giving up social conventions.”

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  36. “Well, I think several things have gone wrong and we're sort of responsible for not winning when I think we should. But it's important for our friends in the UK and throughout Europe to remember that since I was elected and then re-elected, we have only lost the popular vote in America twice, once when George Bush was given the narrowest re-election margin since Woodrow Wilson just before World War I. once in this most recent election when we had to run with an enormous number of problems and we lost by a million and a half or more than six votes less than Hillary beat Donald Trump by in 2016 so it's not great but it's not the end of the world but there is a war going on in America now essentially to try to dismantle the politics of inclusive tribal”

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  37. “I'm doing great. It's lousy weather, and I just got back from several days in Arkansas celebrating the 20th anniversary of the presidential center. So I lost a lot of my voice down there. But it's coming back, I think. You can hear me, all right”

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