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“And was also defeated. And Kobach is now famous for putting a 38-caliber machine gun on the back of a pickup and entering the political parades in the little towns of Kansas.”
2019-02-28 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 312 - Bill Kurtis · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Very much. And one could say they run the state because of all their support. And he went on, you know, he was in Congress and made his”
2019-02-28 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 312 - Bill Kurtis · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“And we're doing some things that she didn't like. She loved the politics, so she said, I'm going to change. You know who had beaten her in a race for Congress in her little district, Southeast Kansas.”
2019-02-28 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 312 - Bill Kurtis · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“She was a state senator for 13 years. She had an expertise in education. Education is the hot button there They're still behind, I think, 300 million. Seems like a lot of money. She just kind of came to the point where an extreme section of the Republican Party had taken over the state house.”
2019-02-28 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 312 - Bill Kurtis · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“To self medicate. And, you know, for terminal patients in cancer or anything, I say, you know, they should have any drug they want. To improve your life”
2019-02-28 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 312 - Bill Kurtis · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“No. You know, medications can stop the voices and the hallucinations. But, you know, then you have other problems pop out. First thing that some of these kids will do is go right to the drugs.”
2019-02-28 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 312 - Bill Kurtis · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Well, obesity and pancreatitis and divertic thealitis and You know, you'd got to go down the list. It's a terrible life and the rippled effect affects so many people. It's good to talk about it. I did not talk about it. I did not want to exploit it, if you will. But I have since had people the minute they hear”
2019-02-28 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 312 - Bill Kurtis · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“No, my daughter called me, and she wasn't sure whether he killed himself or just died. He had diseases that kind of associated obesity.”
2019-02-28 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 312 - Bill Kurtis · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“It's like an alcoholic. An alcoholic can run the life of a family, ruin it in many cases, but it takes all the money they have to send them off to treatment. And Scott would go back into the hospital probably every six months. He would act out and kind of come to the end of those medications. And then he would get his retuning and come out after about six weeks, and be fine. But it was the back and forth back and forth. And Kansas has a pretty good mental health system. But it costs money. In a state that doesn't have any to begin with. So everything is.”
2019-02-28 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 312 - Bill Kurtis · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“A grotesque. So just being that obese prevents you from living up to Any dreams. So I actually am the sheriff knew, the police knew. It's a 1,300 population. The other people in town, well, that's Scott, you know, and they'll kind of... Then they weren't afraid. So I set up my own mental health. Obviously, it didn't do any good. We didn't have anything to cure the disease. We cannot cure it. But we can support”
2019-02-28 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 312 - Bill Kurtis · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“I I did not have him at home and he actually left for several years and doing what he wanted to do. And so I bought him a small house in the town that is adjacent to the ranch because Menninger's tried to teach them to be independent and so they can live life on their own terms And I had a cousin there and appointed a guardian, so they would come and administer the medications every day. Scott, the problem is the medications caused him to gain weight. So by the time he died he was three hundred pounds.”
2019-02-28 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 312 - Bill Kurtis · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Is there it took a bag, presumably of weapons, and got in the car and drove off away from the house. His father saw that. He said early in the game, yes, I saw that and I went after him. That means his father knew something, whether, you know, the violence hadn't happened yet, but he knew something was wrong, and he knew that something could happen. So people know. And parents, I think, have to be given sort of a guide. Here's what you do”
2019-02-28 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 312 - Bill Kurtis · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“And that is sort of the end of the world for a lot of parents. Here's a tip. Remember Gabby Giffords, who was shot in Phoenix? I saw an early story that came across that said the young man”
2019-02-28 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 312 - Bill Kurtis · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Something had to be done But instead, we now have, I think, a terrible mental health system. There's no place to go. So consider this. You're a parent, you have a child, they're different, they spend all day in front of a computer. The parent has to go in and look at the computer and what they're doing there. In the Columbine killings. they had essays and plans almost for a year of what they wanted to do to the people in the school. So the big problem, I think, these days is to, one, come to grips with the fact that your child Has a problem and may develop a violent whether they have or not a tendency, and how are you going to commit them? Well, if you commit them, that probably means more than a psychiatrist. It could mean to a state hospital”
2019-02-28 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 312 - Bill Kurtis · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Up to that point, Mr. And then it takes time to determine whether this is bipolar now or schizophrenia or just being a teenager. And, you know, the drugs, the medications. In 1968, many of the states, including Illinois, closed the so-called snake pits, the warehouses for the mentally ill And The theory was we're going to put them on the street and they're going to administer their own medications. Administer their crazy. Administer their own medications. What are we? Nuts. We're trying to save money.”
2019-02-28 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 312 - Bill Kurtis · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“And of course there are a thousand different kinds. Anyway, Scott lived with that. I felt so sorry for him because one of the things that happens is that they're unable to hold a job because their attention span is not any good. They're dealing with all this inside their head. At the same time trying to live, work, be normal, which they can't. So it becomes just this crushing negativity.”
2019-02-28 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 312 - Bill Kurtis · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“I believe among several theories of why it happens that there's a chemical in the brain, dopamine perhaps, that turns off. And they begin to have elucidations, audio problems. They described it to me, and there are different descriptions, that you can go to a movie or go to a concert, and you go home and you go to bed and all those senses turn off. But for a schizophrenic, they don't. So his head can be filled with voices, voices that are terrible toward him, telling him, you know, your father is the devil, you have to kill him and lead them to violence.”
2019-02-28 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 312 - Bill Kurtis · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“And so we have to find out how we can better identify those that are going to be violent. I took my son to the Menninger Foundation, which was the last remaining long-term mental health facility in Kansas. And they have now moved to MD Anderson. And they said he's not the violet type. Schizophrenia is hard to detect. It happens around nineteen, twenty years old.”
2019-02-28 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 312 - Bill Kurtis · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“I was at the scene of so many things fires on the west side, the Democratic Convention, the The Menson trial. So I said, you know, I'm here. I better start taking pictures. And that helped because the substance of that imagery carried the day. I didn't have to be Ansel Adams. But I picked it up and it became more that a hobby.”
2019-02-28 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 312 - Bill Kurtis · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Well, you have to have television, as that's what it's all about, motion pictures, still photography is coming back, I think. It was replaced by digital, you know, and I put it off for an awful long time because you have to know computers and all the little gadgets. But what attractions?”
2019-02-28 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 312 - Bill Kurtis · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“And I slowed it down. And the strategy of the big economic giants, oil companies and others who don't necessarily want to cut back on their emissions is to find that a scientist that happens to be a denier And fund him and support that. It's the same strategy that was used for cigarettes. And it just delays”
2019-02-28 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 312 - Bill Kurtis · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“You know, that soaks up not only are we experimenting with it at one of our locations, but it soaks up more carbon than almost any other thing besides ocean. And because the roots go down fifteen feet, they are filled with billions of organisms that all eat carbon. So it'll get here. And I believe in my mind that we all kind of know about climate and the problems, but a panel issues a report which says, you know, we're going to be in major trouble in 10 years. Ten years we're talking about, you look at the amount of carbon dioxide in the atmosphere, we've already gone over the warning side. Yeah, no, look, I think...”
2019-02-28 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 312 - Bill Kurtis · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“I do. My wife, Donna, runs a company. So we keep it in the family. I just came from a narration session. And I have my climate change is a hot button for me.”
2019-02-28 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 312 - Bill Kurtis · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Documentaries. It was cheaper, and it was able to give them an identity, an A&E discovery right down the line. And so it started. And investigative reports. I mean, we were into 10 years of that. 10 years. And cold case files seven years, 127 shows. I mean, think about it. We now produce American Greed on CNBC.”
2019-02-28 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 312 - Bill Kurtis · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“In 85, I came back from New York. I just wanted to do journalism. And in my contract, I wrote in that I was able to start my own company. So while working at the local TV station, I was also forming Curtis Productions. And it was lucky because I was at the beginning of what could be called a golden age of documentaries on cable. They were still running World War II documentaries, you know, Hitler going down the street. And they discovered a new formula, and that was local is cheaper. I mean, they're locally original produced.”
2019-02-28 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 312 - Bill Kurtis · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“It grieves me. Oh, me too. I feel so sad. And local news, you know, I think that the reporters are better educated than they ever have been. What happened is that the schools have caught up with the convergence idea, radio, television, writing, and other jobs that you can take because there's so many kids who want to get into journalism or broadcasting. But they kind of come up to local news and it's full. And we're not doing the kind of, they're doing good jobs, but it's largely stand-ups in the morning and evening, you know,”
2019-02-28 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 312 - Bill Kurtis · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“To digital, and it's not quite there yet. Advertising is left. And if you don't have the money, To support your efforts, then everything has to shrink. There are 400 reporters and news people at the tribune that have lost their jobs. So in many ways, the newspapers are shadows of what they used to be.”
2019-02-28 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 312 - Bill Kurtis · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“And that's the key to being a reporter. If we look at what's happening in the Washington today, it's in many ways the glory days of returned, certainly with the New York Times in the post. Investigating reporting.”
2019-02-28 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 312 - Bill Kurtis · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Right. I was in Saigon two weeks before it fell, went to north Vietnam on the Adorn story. Incidentally, 200,000 veterans have been compensated for diseases connected to 50 diseases have been recognized.”
2019-02-28 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 312 - Bill Kurtis · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Yes, I see. And have an investigative unit, hence the Agred Orange story. And yes, and we had some great general managers, and there was a breakthrough. And I wish that it had continued, although you will see local stations sending reporters abroad if there's a connection. Although the budgets are not.”
2019-02-28 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 312 - Bill Kurtis · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Well, I was able to use the my correspondent background and the argument that look this So, if you allow me to go to Africa, go to Belfast. So”
2019-02-28 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 312 - Bill Kurtis · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Well, for one thing, you know, you become a network anchor and everybody wants to do it. It's the top of the mountain. But when you get there, you realize, oh my God, I'm not writing, I'm not reporting because I have two hours live on the air of anchoring, and that's what I'm paid to do. And my joy really was on the streets and actually doing the work of journalism.”
2019-02-28 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 312 - Bill Kurtis · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Like your coverage? Yeah, I think they were on marijuana, but Charlie had this ability or at least magician-like quality and illusionist to make you think that he could communicate with all these people, his family, from jail, even though there was no communication. He didn't even have access to a phone. And so it was perfectly, and we had heard threats that he had sent them out to try and get better coverage. So it, you know, is it kind of in the air? That was a 10-month trial. Yeah. Now I'm glad I did it as I look back because of the history making.”
2019-02-28 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 312 - Bill Kurtis · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“And, you know, I walked up, and there was a 45 on the table, and I said, I mean, on their seat. I said, I don't know how you're getting away with that. But at night, with my child, and I think of the second by that time, we were out on sunset boulevard all the way to the end, almost the ocean, and had a knock on the door. And a young woman was at the door, and mascara streaming from her eyes, it was raining, and she looked pretty rough. She said, please call the police, call the police. I need to get home. So when I call the police, and almost as soon as I had turned away from her, came back to the door, and there was a large young man standing beside her. So I've got a picture of large young man Manson-like. Follower in front, and I said, Well, here we go.”
2019-02-28 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 312 - Bill Kurtis · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“You're young people who are doing Charlie's bidding, Charlie being the ex-con spent his whole life in prison. And yet, when it came down to it, Susan Atkins and Leslie Van Houten and Patricia Krenwinkle and Tex Watson, the big All-American high school football player, were able to dip towels in blood. And right on the walls pigs trying to make it look like black panthers had created it to touch off. A civil war in which the blacks would be eliminated. But yes, Squeaky From, they would camp right out on the sidewalk. And Sewing a magic vest for Charlie.”
2019-02-28 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 312 - Bill Kurtis · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“You know, the family, Vincent Billiosi, the prosecutor, was worried that he was not going to be able to convict Charlie because Charlie was never at the scene of a crime, of any of the murders, because he had created these so-called zombies with drugs and sex Sent them out”
2019-02-28 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 312 - Bill Kurtis · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“And only 11 people were killed. Which I say only, that's still tragic, but it was a time when there weren't that many guns available.”
2019-02-28 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 312 - Bill Kurtis · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“And that's being right in it. They weren't interested in us, they were interested in burning the city. The interesting thing is that here was the largest riot that Chicago, not the fire. That, of course, was 18. Right, yes. But the riot that the city had ever experienced.”
2019-02-28 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 312 - Bill Kurtis · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Well, I hate to say wonderful because you know firemen like to fight fires police like to solve crimes For me, I was on the streets most of the time. And so I was there at Balboan, Michigan when the demonstrators pushed into the police line. I mean, they were in front of me. You talk about history. For a long time, I mean, I reported as I saw it, but it was not quite as accurate as it should be because I couldn't be, all the... Perspectives that other reporters had around, but there was that, and then after King and the cities began to burn. You know, we had a Westside here a few blocks from the University of Chicago. And here's the interesting thing. I mean, I was on the street and we were literally in a car, a crew car, as the rioters were going down the street and lighting with torches houses and shops.”
2019-02-28 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 312 - Bill Kurtis · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“But I've kept it secret all these years And so we looked at it and I said, my God, I don't know what I'm looking at. So we called the prosecutor and Bill Martin came out and sure we confirmed everything. Sat on it for a bit as we were trying to figure out where it was shot, why, when he was dead at that moment. But when it went on on the air went on local station then AE crime series that I was starting to produce It was the most explosive story that I've ever been connected with, explosive in the sense that Shocking in every television station in the country wanted it.”
2019-02-28 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 312 - Bill Kurtis · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“It was given to me as investigative reporters. Don't go in and bludgeon people to give me this story, but they make contacts. A lawyer had been given it as a fee, paid for fee. She knew oops, I've just told more than I should have.”
2019-02-28 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 312 - Bill Kurtis · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Enhancement. And I'm not sure whether it was that or just overweight. But nonetheless, he had some great quotes. Why did you kill those girls? And he said just was in third day. What do you want people to know, you know, who see you in here? He said, you know, if they knew how good I have it in here, they'd want me out. Just like rubbing the salt. How did you get this tape?”
2019-02-28 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 312 - Bill Kurtis · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Well, in prison, and it outraged people. Well, here's the most hated man, certainly in Illinois and perhaps the country. It was a videotape that had been made. They never figured out why. The closest thing, I think, is that there is a jailhouse network of videos that they will do. They have that kind of freedom. Anyway, it showed him stripping down naked with his lover beside him, a pile of cocaine was in front, hundred dollars bills thrown out in front, and he appeared to have breast either implants or some kind of a chemical”
2019-02-28 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 312 - Bill Kurtis · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Wasn't that the tattoo? Discovered when he tried to kill himself and he was taken to County Hospital and was identified there by a doctor. So it was an auspicious beginning, as they say.”
2019-02-28 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 312 - Bill Kurtis · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“And, you know, you stop Just kind of change into this very serious message that you're, well, anyway, we run for twenty four hours. It was the most damaging at the time in the United States. It was an F5 before we even had ratings of F5 Sad”
2019-02-28 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 312 - Bill Kurtis · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Little report we got is that the Huntington departments had been wiped out. Well, in my head, I'm still on camera. I could draw a straight line from the original sighting through the apartments and like an arrow it pointed to the capital building Washburn, the school I was buried and had a six month old child living on campus So I said, for God's sake, take cover. And those words.”
2019-02-28 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 312 - Bill Kurtis · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“The general manager said, Well, let's go break in. And you can give the not exactly a formal warning because we hadn't received it yet. And so I was on the air for about 15 seconds and heard a two-way radio come from the newsroom into the studio, and it was our cameraman, and he was on the southwest edge of the city. And he said, we have a tornado on the ground. And it's headed for the city, and it's big. And I didn't want to go with that. I wanted a confirmation of that because”
2019-02-28 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 312 - Bill Kurtis · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Well, and it still has the attention today. It was also a very helpful for me in making the ultimate decision. I had accepted a job at a law firm in Wichita, finished a course in a friend, asked me to fill in for him during the six o'clock news on the local TV station. And so I went out and we had some weather. I had been a weatherman for two years working, that's my part-time job getting through law school. And they said, why don't you stick around? We may have to go back on and give either the all-clear or add to it. So at 7 o'clock. A time that will live in infamy Topeka, Kansas.”
2019-02-28 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 312 - Bill Kurtis · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“And the New York Times was the Emerald City of the day, the Chicago Tribune. We were far, far from any metropolitan areas. So it just... Didn't seem to have the interesting stories.”
2019-02-28 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 312 - Bill Kurtis · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“So it wasn't as clear then as, you know, practicing law. Also, practicing law in Kansas didn't have the wizard of Oz at Emerald City kind of ring to it. And I thought, my God, I won't be able to travel at all. If I go back to my Marine Corps days, born of the Marines there, traveled around where my dad was moving. But I will say that it was very difficult. It was a difficult decision because, you know, I got to law school when I graduated in 1966. Difficult”
2019-02-28 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 312 - Bill Kurtis · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source