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Boyd Varty

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“You can get a hold of us at Londalozi.com. You can also get a hold of me at Boydvarty.com. My team will point you in the right direction. Tracker Academy. Is trackeracademy.co.ze.”
2024-08-14 · The Tim Ferriss Show · #763: Margaret Atwood and Boyd Varty · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Supporting young people from difficult backgrounds and teaching them to become trackers, they have a nearly 90% placement rate into the tourism industry. So they do amazing work. Those would be the two things that I would offer to people.”
2024-08-14 · The Tim Ferriss Show · #763: Margaret Atwood and Boyd Varty · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Well, firstly, just thanks for having me. And, you know, it's a privilege to support a show that has had such an impact on so many people and be a part of it. So I'm just really grateful to you and been fun getting to know you. I would say a few things. I would say one is I would invite people to come on safaris in Africa. It's a very unique encounter with a landscape that is still wild. And when people come and have safaris at a place like Londa Lozi or wherever they go, it has a profound impact on allowing us to protect these areas and on the local people. And so, you know, we've always been I've always been a proponent of the economy of wildlife. We keep these areas wild. We invite people to come and experience them. And that has a huge impact. So if you're thinking about a holiday, come on a safari. If you're thinking about a safari, come. It's a once in a lifetime experience. I would say that if you are interested in tracking, you can support the tracker academy. Tracker academy.co.za. They do amazing work.”
2024-08-14 · The Tim Ferriss Show · #763: Margaret Atwood and Boyd Varty · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“That'll have to. They're all in there, but some of them only get pulled out with a bit of scotch and a campfire. All right, well, the.”
2024-08-14 · The Tim Ferriss Show · #763: Margaret Atwood and Boyd Varty · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Thanks, Lauren. It was like one of those moments, also where you realized you can't half roar at a group of executives. Like you've either got to not do it or go all in.”
2024-08-14 · The Tim Ferriss Show · #763: Margaret Atwood and Boyd Varty · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Well, the thing that saved the whole damn thing is that eventually when I finished roaring, one person started clapping and everyone like went for it. And so the whole room ended up clapping. And that kind of like moved the energy and we were into the presentation. I was like, thank God.”
2024-08-14 · The Tim Ferriss Show · #763: Margaret Atwood and Boyd Varty · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Just a convulsing, silent lion. And it was at this point, and it dawned on me like slow enough for it to be truly painful that I realized I was about to roar at a group of executives. And I grabbed the lapel mic and I held it close to my mouth and then I synced up my roar with the lion. And the problem with the damn clip is it went on for a long time. And then when a lion winds down, he goes, And so literally the intro and I was like, why won't this lion stop? Oh my god, it was painful. It just went on and on. Anyway, I got through the presentation and still to this day, Tim, I'm going to be honest with you, if I lie in bed and I think about that, a wave of shame will travel through me. And I'll have to like cool over on my side and just rock myself.”
2024-08-14 · The Tim Ferriss Show · #763: Margaret Atwood and Boyd Varty · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“And before I note, the auditorium is full and I haven't done the run through. And I'm in my worst nightmare. Now, the intro to my talk is a sort of a poetic speech. And then I say, and my story, like many good stories in Africa, begins with a lion roaring. And then I press my clicker. And on a huge screen behind me, there's an early morning image of a male lion. And he's roaring into the morning. So actually like mist is coming out of his mouth. And what's meant to happen is people are meant to be overwhelmed by this incredible baritone audio. And it's meant to put them right in the moment. And of course, the lion is doing the action of roaring, which is a bit of a convulsion, but there's no sound.”
2024-08-14 · The Tim Ferriss Show · #763: Margaret Atwood and Boyd Varty · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“So, this was early on when I first started speaking a lot and telling stories to people. And I got this gig at one of these Silicon Valley companies. And normal story, I got there early and I arrived to meet the tech guy to make sure that we were well set up. A normal story, the tech guy was late. He had to have a cigarette break. You know, like that archetypal tech guy who's like running the AV. Like it was that guy. And so eventually I said him like, listen, man, like, I just really want to run through my slides. Like, I want to make sure that we're all good. And he's like, listen, I need to upload the system so that we can stream to the whole company. I'll get to you in a second, but we're all good. I'm like, dude, I need to get some reps. Classic. Like, I want to be well prepared. Anyway, people start filing in. People start filing in.”
2024-08-14 · The Tim Ferriss Show · #763: Margaret Atwood and Boyd Varty · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Very different, like the presence not better or worse, but just fundamentally different in a wolf as compared to, say, that of a dog. They are very different, very different creatures, even though the wolf is certainly the progenitor of the dog. And I haven't read it yet, but I think National Geographic had a cover story at one point called From Wolf to Wolf, which is one of the best headlines I've ever heard in my life. But for more info on Mission Wolf, people can just go to missionwolf.org. And I think they do some very, very interesting work.”
2024-08-14 · The Tim Ferriss Show · #763: Margaret Atwood and Boyd Varty · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Beauty and value in that. It's something so worthy of exploration. And it's fascinating that it can occur not just from another human, not just from a prey animal, like a kudoo, but also from a predator. It's very, or a leopard for that matter. I mean, it's so deeply interesting and begets so many questions. I just wanted to mention that because it's also something looked into the eyes of a number of these wolves.”
2024-08-14 · The Tim Ferriss Show · #763: Margaret Atwood and Boyd Varty · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“They come in, there's an opportunity in some instances to meet the Ambassador Wolf. So you're led into an enclosure and then they let a number of these ambassador wolves in. And I heard repeatedly stories of these wolves going directly to whoever was most internal in a group, whoever was most closed off in a group, whether that be a child with autism or a veteran with PTSD and would go right up to them and look straight into their eyes. And I heard this story repeatedly from multiple staff members. And much like Fanderpost and your experience, but in this case with a wolf sort of staring directly into the soul of this animal and more importantly, maybe the animal staring directly into you, many of those people reporting that it was the first time they really truly felt seen. And I just feel like there's so much”
2024-08-14 · The Tim Ferriss Show · #763: Margaret Atwood and Boyd Varty · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Or not terrified of human beings. Like they can be near humans because wolves by instinct don't want to be anywhere close to humans. And if they bark, it's usually a fear response, like a fear bark. They're not like dogs at all in that respect. And if they bark, I mean, they'll stay as far away from you as possible on the opposite side of an enclosure. But when groups come through, say school groups or visitors and they have a limited capacity for visitors, which is why I volunteered.”
2024-08-14 · The Tim Ferriss Show · #763: Margaret Atwood and Boyd Varty · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“The middle of nowhere in Colorado, and they are effectively a place of sanctuary for wolves or wolf dogs that cannot be released into the wild. So they're not captive wolves per se. They're wolves or wolf dogs often who were raised in captivity under terrible atrocious circumstances and then somehow made their way to Mission Wolf, their other examples. There are also kind of second generation or third generation wolves who are very much wild, right? Like Arctic wolves. And I mean, they're all effectively gray wolves, but come from different areas and therefore have different coats. And they're in really large enclosures, like multi-acre enclosures, but there are a few who are, because of their history prior to getting to Mission Wolf are a”
2024-08-14 · The Tim Ferriss Show · #763: Margaret Atwood and Boyd Varty · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“So I spent time, I wish I could remember the name, but a number of equine therapy centers, one in Texas. And oddly, but maybe not oddly, I also learned when I went to a wolf sanctuary and I volunteered there for a period of time in Colorado. And I should explain it's mission wolf, missionwolf.org. I recommend people check it out.”
2024-08-14 · The Tim Ferriss Show · #763: Margaret Atwood and Boyd Varty · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Wow, it's really just a striking story. And it makes me think of a few things also. You mentioned a horse whisper earlier. And for the last few years, I've been very interested in. Natural encounters, of course, but it's very challenging to manufacture those experiences. So I've also spent time looking at, for instance, equine therapy and how Are used in partnership with patients of different types for therapeutic purposes. And I think it fascinates me as many therapies do that are predominantly nonverbal. I think that we overweight the verbal perhaps”
2024-08-14 · The Tim Ferriss Show · #763: Margaret Atwood and Boyd Varty · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Beautiful story. God, just the imagery that conjures. It's really, I see it sort of in slow motion, almost as if it's shot on film from like a Francis Ford Coppola film.”
2024-08-14 · The Tim Ferriss Show · #763: Margaret Atwood and Boyd Varty · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“And if I think about that Ubuntu consciousness, that relational consciousness, what Solly taught me was that the Ubuntu consciousness is activated through action. And what the leopard taught me in that moment and what I think funder past experienced is that the Ubuntu consciousness, the relational consciousness is also activated when we in a moment let go and let someone else take us to a place we couldn't get to ourselves or another sentient being and I think about that a lot as someone who tends to be quite controlling like there comes a point where I want to let go and go somewhere where I just can't get to with my own control, my own sense of how it should be, my own sense that I know how this should unfold. And that leopard just took me there in a moment. And so all through my life I've had glimpses of something and I can't exactly say what it is, but I keep living towards it.”
2024-08-14 · The Tim Ferriss Show · #763: Margaret Atwood and Boyd Varty · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“And then slowly he turned to look at me and then he walked past the front of me and in a moment he disappeared into the darkness. And as he walked away from me, And I felt into my own body instead of more anxiety and fear and this shake that I had had, I felt myself in this profound state of stillness. And I knew in that moment that that leopard had helped me understand what happened to Funderpost. And I also knew that I had gone to a place in myself that I could never have gone to alone. That leopard had almost taken me into a state of stillness.”
2024-08-14 · The Tim Ferriss Show · #763: Margaret Atwood and Boyd Varty · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“And his whole coat, that beautiful rosetted coat, was bathed in this beautiful deep orange light from the fire. And he continued to come towards me. And as he walked towards me, I felt this very ancient primal energy wake up inside of me. And then he stopped when he was about ten yards away. And he was so close to me that I could hear him breathing. What it felt like to me is that in that moment it was as if I could feel his body in my body and I could feel my body almost creating a kind of mimesis to his energy and I felt myself becoming incredibly alert but incredibly still and there was no thought of the future and there was no thought of the past. There was just an energy circulating between this incredibly beautiful wild, elusive, dangerous cat and eye.”
2024-08-14 · The Tim Ferriss Show · #763: Margaret Atwood and Boyd Varty · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“And when I saw him and I looked at him and he became aware that I was aware of him, no aggression came into his body. He didn't drop his head. He didn't tighten his shoulders. He just continued to walk towards me. And I in fact dropped down onto my haunches. And part of what I wanted to do is he wasn't being aggressive. So I dropped down because I wanted to give myself the space to escalate. If he became aggressive, I would stand up. And if he became more aggressive, I could put my arms up. I was giving myself room to create more energy. And he continued to move towards me. And as I watched him, he was walking through the smoke and the smoke was almost dancing around him and his eyes”
2024-08-14 · The Tim Ferriss Show · #763: Margaret Atwood and Boyd Varty · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Still see the fire was lighting the sky in this big orange blaze. And in fact, the area that I was in, the smoke was still hanging on the ground all around me. And in the darkness to my right, I heard a sound like someone cutting a two by four. And immediately I knew that there was a leopard in the darkness to the right of me. And so I turned to look and walking out of the darkness into the faint light that the fire was throwing came this male leopard. And he was walking directly towards me, which is extremely one. It was strange that he was in an area where there had been a fire, and to it was strange that he was walking directly towards me.”
2024-08-14 · The Tim Ferriss Show · #763: Margaret Atwood and Boyd Varty · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Is the intensity of the sound. It sounds like it hisses and crackles up ahead of you. The smoke drifts across the sun and it bathes everything in this eerie orange light. And then insects that are escaping the blaze start flying up. And what you get is an aura of hawks and eagles hawking insects out the sky. You feel the ground start to shake if you go out to fight it and you look to your right and out of the smoke comes a rhino and it books past you snakes escaping the fire are coming past you. And in this instant, Tim, with PTSD, I was highly activated. And we fought that fire for three days. And then eventually on the eve of the third day, the fire had burned through. And the crews were still fighting it, but I had become isolated from them. I was about a mile or two away from them. And I was in an area that the fire had already burned through. And night was starting to fall. And I could see the crews on the horizon in the distance.”
2024-08-14 · The Tim Ferriss Show · #763: Margaret Atwood and Boyd Varty · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“And I was recovering and that the experience of being attacked by the crocodile was profound because really it had brought me closer to Solly and I had learned so much about how he saw the world and his worldview was starting to come into me a more relational way of relating to nature and to other people. But still, I felt myself incredibly anxious and frozen. I literally felt like I had this shake in my body and I couldn't get it out. Like I would look at my hand and my hand would be shaking. I would wake up at night. I had pretty severe PTSD. And into the teeth of this, a fire broke out on the reserve. And I don't know if you've ever been in a big bushfire, but the first thing you notice about a bushfire is just the...”
2024-08-14 · The Tim Ferriss Show · #763: Margaret Atwood and Boyd Varty · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“And as a young kid, I think I was maybe eight or nine when I was sitting around the fire and I first heard the story. I didn't even know why, but it struck something in me. Years later, after the crocodile, Solly and I had been sitting around the fire, we'd been talking a lot.”
2024-08-14 · The Tim Ferriss Show · #763: Margaret Atwood and Boyd Varty · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“this beautiful regal animal and it moves with this incredible elegance and the kudoo walked to the edge of the waterhole and then with these huge ears its ears listened and you can actually see the ears moving like satellite dishes as they listen and it scanned the terrain all around and then very slowly it put its lips down and it started to drink and just as it started to drink a breeze touched funderpost back and it blew his scent over the water hole and straight into the nostrils of the kudoo and it put its head up and it looked directly at him. And for a moment their eyes met And Van der Posh said that in that moment, in the stillness of that gaze, he felt a kind of innocence come back into him after all he had seen and all he had done in the war. And instantly in that moment he knew he was able to go and see his family again.”
2024-08-14 · The Tim Ferriss Show · #763: Margaret Atwood and Boyd Varty · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“And so instead of going to see his family, he decided that he would go alone into the Kruger National Park very near where I grew up. So he packed up his gear and he walked out into the reserve and he set up this little camp. And this was, of course, before the days of diagnosis like PTSD. And the story goes on the very first night, he was sitting at the base of a marilla tree next to this small water hole. And I can imagine after the war the stillness he must have felt and somewhere nearby a hyena started calling a night jar would have called somewhere, you know, dear Lord, deliver us. And I think of him sitting there in that stillness after the war. And on the other side of the water hole, a kudoo started to come towards the water hole to drink.”
2024-08-14 · The Tim Ferriss Show · #763: Margaret Atwood and Boyd Varty · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Leopard in the fire occurred. There's kind of two parts to the story. The first is that when I was very young, I heard a story around a campfire that like stuck inside of me. And it was a story about a man by the name of Lawrence van der Post. And Funderpost, you may have come across some of his work, but he was a tremendous poet and an artist, and he had one of those miraculous lives. He was a philosopher, really. But Funderpast grew up on a farm in South Africa. He was very connected to the native people. He learned to track when he was young. And then he ended up going to fight in the Second World War. And in fact, in the Second World War, he was eventually taken prisoner. He was in a prisoner of war camp. And the story, as I heard it, was that he returned to South Africa after the war. And he really wanted to go and see his family. But he felt he couldn't face them after the things that he had seen and that he had done.”
2024-08-14 · The Tim Ferriss Show · #763: Margaret Atwood and Boyd Varty · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“I had this buddy of mine who's a Navy SEAL, and he says to me, so... I recently met this dog named Butters and I find myself thinking about Butters and he's a friend of mine's dog and I go out and I think about Butters and I'm always worried about butters and I take Butter's treats and I go over there. I always want to check on butters and what do you make of that? I think that's called love. And he's like, yeah, I always feel better. It's right here in my chair. I'm like, I think you're having the experience of loving butters. And he was like, this is outrageous.”
2024-08-14 · The Tim Ferriss Show · #763: Margaret Atwood and Boyd Varty · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“That voice stayed with me, that whisper, you're just being born because I felt newborn. And I know that, you know, you probably know this place and many of your listeners who've had psychedelic experiences will know there can be this sense of being new and almost baby-like, sensitized again. You're feeling again. You feel Tuned again, you can feel people's emotions. And for me, it was just that. Like I was feeling again after that experience. And all of the armor that I had put on had come off and I was able to slowly start. I felt other people's pain. I felt other people's sadness. I felt my own. And I did feel like brand new inside of that. And it wasn't altogether comfortable, but at least I felt back in some ways. In fact, it felt incredibly uncomfortable. But I knew that it was better than where I was”
2024-08-14 · The Tim Ferriss Show · #763: Margaret Atwood and Boyd Varty · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“And I was like, and it was weird. And I said, but I don't understand what's happening. And he said, you'll only understand in the next few weeks. And he was right. Like it took long time to integrate that. But that was really the beginning of my understanding that the restoration of our relationship with the natural world can begin inside each one of us as each one of us heals, we create an opportunity to create a different relationship with the natural world. And it's somehow that imagery spoke to the freezing, the trauma that we all go through and the opportunity to awaken back to our nature.”
2024-08-14 · The Tim Ferriss Show · #763: Margaret Atwood and Boyd Varty · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Passed out in the sweat. And there was like this vibrational quality to it. I know you have some experience with these medicines, but it was almost like I could feel the humming of the earth. And then eventually I came to and I was outside the sweat and I was lying in a pile of leaves that someone had raked up earlier in the day. But I was like in the leaves. And I could feel the earth and I could feel like the leaves all around me. Looked up in this Navajo medicine man was pouring water up and down my spine and I was disorientated and I said to him, I think I'm dying. I think I'm dying. And he kneeled down and he put his mouth right to my ear and he said, no, brother, you're just being born.”
2024-08-14 · The Tim Ferriss Show · #763: Margaret Atwood and Boyd Varty · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“light and walking across the clearing towards me came the mother leopard and she walked through the short grass and she walked directly up to me in the vision and she just bumped me as she walked past me and in the instant that she bumped me something in me understood that my own healing and the healing of nature and the healing of the land was somehow connected And that's why all I've ever done now is try and tell stories from this place of nature has so much to teach us if we can attune to it. And then I passed out.”
2024-08-14 · The Tim Ferriss Show · #763: Margaret Atwood and Boyd Varty · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“And eventually the heat was getting too hot for me and I could feel like I'd been told like don't leave the sweat lodge, but I'm like, this is too much. And then the medicine and then the singing. And suddenly I found myself in this kind of slideshow and my eyes were closed, Tim, but I saw the gun in my face. I saw my sister tied up. I saw the crocodile just break the surface of the water. I saw all of these images and the gun being taken outside kneeling down being told you're going to be killed. The words and we're going to kill you. We're going to kill you. It all just ran through my mind. And with vivid, vivid imagery. And then eventually it got to the point where it was almost too much. And I just started throwing up. And as I started throwing up the entire imagery changed and suddenly I was in the vision. I was back home in South Africa and I was sitting in a clearing in the late afternoon.”
2024-08-14 · The Tim Ferriss Show · #763: Margaret Atwood and Boyd Varty · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Short, like classic Hogan with blankets over it. You got a crouch to get into it. Fire area in the middle where the stones come. Huge fire outside where the guys are really heating up the rocks. And then over the course of about five hours, the stones just keep coming in and the heap just keeps building. And people start to sing. And we were joined by various other people who had come to the ceremony. It was all native people and myself and Coel. everyone started singing and the energy started to build and then more heat and then more singing and then drum and then more heat and it just keeps on building and then people started to let go of things that they were holding and so people started to scream and people started to cry and the music builds and the singing builds and you can almost feel like the energy is like conjuring more and more energy it's like building on itself and it's getting super intense”
2024-08-14 · The Tim Ferriss Show · #763: Margaret Atwood and Boyd Varty · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“We were also in kind of this like abandoned churchyard. And then like the medicine man arrived and he had just like left his job on a Friday afternoon in construction. And so I was like trying to catch up a little bit with it. But the minute the ceremony started, I started to feel the energy. And we went into the sweat lodge. We drank the medicine.”
2024-08-14 · The Tim Ferriss Show · #763: Margaret Atwood and Boyd Varty · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“And so it happened really early on. I had just been through those two traumatic encounters. And I was severely kind of unsure of what I was meant to be doing. And I was staying in Arizona with Martha. And another woman who was apprenticing with her, who was a horse whisperer by the name of Coel Simpson, she had ties to the Navajo community. And she invited me to attend to a sweat. And so I was, you know, I'd never been exposed to that before, so I was really interested. And so we went to the sweat and we ended up on a kind of a church ground on the outskirts of Phoenix. And it was one of those classic encounters of like, what do they say, like first the enlightenment and then the laundry type thing. It was like, I knew that it was a very big kind of experience I was about to have. It was a spiritual encounter. There was a medicine man coming in.”
2024-08-14 · The Tim Ferriss Show · #763: Margaret Atwood and Boyd Varty · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“I mean, like, I'll give you a Katie's story. The first time I ever met her, I was sitting at a conference that she was talking at. And I happened to be sitting in the second row. She sat down next to me. She looked at me. She put her hand out, I took her hand, and we held hands for an hour while other people talked, and then she turned and looked at me and she said, I liked holding your hand, and then she left. That was like my first, and that's Katie totally connected, totally wild, and you don't know what's going to happen. Right.”
2024-08-14 · The Tim Ferriss Show · #763: Margaret Atwood and Boyd Varty · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Be listening, I would be grateful for where I already am, I would be thankful for what I have. And so for me, I did the work for a long time before realizing it was meditation in which I was getting to know myself as someone who believed a thought and someone who didn't believe the thought. And only when I really understood it to be meditation and I could sit and watch myself like that did I feel a compassion of getting to know myself when I believe a thought and when I don't believe a thought and how powerful that is. And that's when the work really took for me.”
2024-08-14 · The Tim Ferriss Show · #763: Margaret Atwood and Boyd Varty · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Safe, or I'm not going to live the life that I want to live when you sit in it as meditation and you Get to know yourself, and that's where the process changed for me when I would come up with a thought like, you know, I'm never going to achieve what I want to achieve. When I actually sat, like she says to do in meditation and asked the question, who am I when I believe that thought? And I started to watch. I feel frustrated. I feel Let down. I don't have confidence in myself. I feel like I'm never doing enough. I feel like I need to do more. I say yes to things that I don't really want to do. I'm afraid of missing something. And when I sat in that and got to know myself there, then who would I be without the thought? Be relaxed, I would be open, I would be really feeling for what's a yes and a no for me.”
2024-08-14 · The Tim Ferriss Show · #763: Margaret Atwood and Boyd Varty · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“And then Byron Katie's work, I cannot say enough about it, and I know you've had a lot of people on the show who have brought her up, but there is nothing more profound than being able to identify thoughts that are causing you stress and then have a system to question them. And on a certain point on a journey, they become absolutely critical because if you are getting touch with this place inside yourself and it's curious and it knows sort of what it wants to do and you feel drawn to a different way of living, inevitably a number of ideas will come in as to why that's not possible. And so I've done hundreds of worksheets now and you name it. I've done absolutely ridiculous ones. And she says, like, you know, I've done my mother shouldn't have taken my cake away. Like literally, like that sort of level of stuff all the way down to I'm not.”
2024-08-14 · The Tim Ferriss Show · #763: Margaret Atwood and Boyd Varty · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“But a whole lot of people coming into that state, I have enough, I am enough, you know, it just changes the desire to consume endlessly. And I think that's going to be very good for nature. And so I see this like the restoration movement as both restoring our relationship to wild places and restoring wild places, but also restoring ourselves, coming to wholeness and healing so that we come out of the illusion that more stuff is going to make us feel okay and realize it's already there in us. We need to discover that gift and share it. So that's a little talk on, you know, how people who discover that just become embodied activists.”
2024-08-14 · The Tim Ferriss Show · #763: Margaret Atwood and Boyd Varty · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“What's it about? And it seems to me it's about that coming to that place in yourself. But there are some characteristics of people who I see who deeply find that place. For one, they become inclined towards simplicity. They don't want a lot of things. A feeling of enough comes into them. And both like, I am enough and I have enough. And they stop wanting to consume more things to feel okay. There's a natural desire towards service. There seems to be this like inclination that takes them to be pulled into nature. There's a desire to be creative and support other people. And that's what I mean is that inside of every healing journey and when someone goes on that journey and finds a deeper place of peace and it's of course it's a continuous journey, but it seems to me that those things take root and that seems to be very important for the restoration movement in a very individual way we do our own work to heal and come to wholeness.”
2024-08-14 · The Tim Ferriss Show · #763: Margaret Atwood and Boyd Varty · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“One thing on the activism thing and I would say it like this. And Tim, you know, you've been on a healing journey. What I notice is that a person who heals has a natural inclination to want to be of service. And especially if you've had people who've supported you along the way, and that's not to say that I think I know how you should heal, but there's just this desire as someone who heals to support the healing impulse and be there. And you know that there were moments in your own journey that were very powerful for you. And it's almost just like innate when you get in touch with that to want to do that for other people and support that. The way that I think about this is if you can give yourself a transformational process and you go on a journey to discover, you know, I would call it the track of your life, the place where you feel whole, where you feel like you're expressing your essence into the world, the place where you feel just at peace and in tune with yourself. And it takes time to get to that. And it seems to me that at a certain point in every lifetime, we get asked like,”
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“help me generate a narrative of the things that have happened to me can actually be fodder for growth and learning. And that became really important. And then it actually became, you know, I have some gifts in this. And if I can find those gifts and share them, that's probably the most healing thing I can do. And so I was in that process for a long time. And at a certain point in it, I started to realize, in fact, this is taking me to my work. And that's when I started to see the tracker differently. And I started to really understand how a transformational process is an intricate unfolding. And as a guide, you can support it as a storyteller. You can support it with presence. You can support it by just listening. You can support it by creating spaces that people can actually be open in. And you can actually start to know the way certain trauma patterns work and help people develop awareness and different outcomes for themselves.”
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“Then starting to give myself different options. So instead of just being isolated and frozen, starting to actually be able to share the things that I was ashamed of. In some ways I was ashamed that I hadn't been able to protect my parents, my sister and my mother. And I was ashamed that I had let bad guys in the house. I was the man of the house. All these things. I was able to start to be able to share these things that I was ashamed of. I was able to talk to how disempowered I had felt and unable to do what I needed to do. And so I started to generate awareness out of that. And then I started to realize that in sharing that, it actually opened me to deeper connection as opposed to what I thought it would do, which would shut me out and shun me. And then I started to, because I was well guided, I started to generate a narrative that was supported. And what I mean by that is like the guide started to.”
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“There are obviously many different ways of being in ceremony. You might say that AA is a ceremony space all the way to sweat lodge spaces, all the way to gatherings using plant medicines. There's just an array. I found myself in spaces using plant medicines that were very well guided. So the first part of the journey for me was actually acknowledging that I was frozen. So there was building awareness around how I become frozen. And then in ceremony watching, drinking the medicine, being with people who were in a healing energetic, and then watching how that affected my life, getting to know how I was when I was frozen, then making peace with that as opposed to thinking there was something wrong with me. That was a big movement being like, this has happened, this is where I'm at, and that's okay.”
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“So, what I mean by that is okay, so if you've had a traumatic encounter in the way that I understand it, it's like a part of you becomes frozen and almost inevitably where there's been trauma, there is a reduction of options, which means I have less choices. And that gets laid down. So life starts to become limited and there's less access to different choices. A healthy person could say, here's a way of handling this. Here's a different way of handling it. A traumatized person has one way of handling it, retreat and isolate. For example, and then I was lucky to have Martha and she started to expose me to how a healing process works. And then very soon after that, I found ceremony work.”
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“Work. It was different for my mother and sister. They were able to, in a more feminine way, allow that process earlier. For me, there had to be a structure of meaning that allowed me to engage in healing and be soft enough and to learn to soften and to learn to open and to learn to let myself actually feel what was there and the fear that was there and the uncertainty that was there and also a feeling that I didn't know what I really wanted to do I had a family legacy in conservation you know I had a safari business that I could come into but I didn't want to just run safaris I knew there was something else for me and I had to go on that journey to find out what that was”
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“A path that I felt was taking me somewhere. And so where that really took root for me is when I started to understand that if I was willing to look at how I had become frozen, if I was willing to look at how I was anxious and depressed as a result of that and how that kind of shut me out from living, if I was able to start living towards that, it actually gave me a kind of map out of trauma. You know, someone trauma healed becomes a kind of medicine. And so it was only really when I started to understand that there was value to this just beyond myself. And in fact, if I became someone who learned how to be in a transformational process and learned how to heal, it was actually taking me towards what I was meant to do in some very important way. And somehow that structure of meaning had to take root in me before I was really able to dive into healing spaces and be open to that type of.”
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