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Brad Smith

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“Yes, medicine. Disaster relief, protection of human rights. I think about something like Microsoft seeing AI. My gosh. Give a person who is blind the ability to use the camera in their phone to identify Is in the world around them, you change a person's life.”
2019-09-09 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · Recode Decode: Microsoft President Brad Smith · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“I'm probably the most nervous about facial recognition because of its potential for abuse. And I'm probably the most optimistic about artificial intelligence more broadly simply because of the impact it actually is starting to have in helping us solve some of the most fundamental societal challenges of our time.”
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“I do I do. I'm realistic enough, as we say in the book, to recognize we have huge headwinds. Starts with gridlock at home and nationalism around the world. But every day we have opportunities to build coalitions of the willing. And that is what we're doing. We've done it to address some of the cybersecurity threats. We've done it to start to address some of these skills gap issues. You look at the different nonprofits that are playing such an important role in this space. We've done it now to start to make some progress around rural broadband. If we could just take the great energy and enthusiasm that is so clearly evident across the tech sector. And instead of saying we're going to move fast and break things, we're going to work together and fix some things. We're not going to solve every problem in the world. That would be naive.”
2019-09-09 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · Recode Decode: Microsoft President Brad Smith · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Well, that is the other equation, other part of the equation. That we describe in the book. The tech sector needs to do more, but we need governments to do more. We need governments to move faster. We need government to catch up with technology. We need not just government acting by itself, but we need a new era of multi-stakeholder. Efforts where governments and businesses, tech companies and nonprofits work together. And if you look at a problem like broadband or you look at a problem like the skills gap, I think those are readily identifiable as issues where this is the right formula. But even when it comes to something like cybersecurity, If you want to protect cyberspace, which is often owned and operated by private companies, we need a new era where we're working together in new ways.”
2019-09-09 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · Recode Decode: Microsoft President Brad Smith · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“I want to finish on how much should the government be involved in other countries? It's certainly like China, like moving ahead of us because we don't have that anymore, that idea that the government is responsible for this.”
2019-09-09 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · Recode Decode: Microsoft President Brad Smith · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Economic mobility is dead. People can't rise up the way other generations did before. Here is an example in my view with the right investment public-private partnership business leadership, you can make a difference.”
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“Oh, I am a big believer. In training skills. One of the stories we share is something that we've championed Microsoft and Boeing in Washington State together with the state government. The Opportunity Scholarship Program. And it's now enabling thousands of low income, often minority, typically first generation to go to college students to get a college degree in a high-demand STEM field. And the thing that gives me the most enthusiasm about it, I've chaired the board for this since it was created in 2011, is that our studies are showing that five years after graduation The average income of the students who have gone through this program is 50% higher than their entire family's income was when they started going to college. And just think about our country. We so often worry with great justification, in my view, that”
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“We're committed to working with telecommunications partners to bring broadband to 3 million people by the year 2022. But even more than that, what we're really trying to do is build a market. So the market can take off and help close this gap.”
2019-09-09 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · Recode Decode: Microsoft President Brad Smith · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“You know, we've met young, promising African American high school students in rural Virginia. They can't excel in computer science because they can't access the internet from home. And what we've pointed out is anytime you can move from a wired to a wireless technology, you just look at the history of technology, it spreads into rural areas much more rapidly. And yet even here in 2019, we're seeing most of the presidential candidates that have broadband plans. Talking about only one thing fiber optic cables The hardest and most expensive solution to a problem that can be solved much faster if we think about it with the benefit of some additional technology. And we would argue a smarter way to spend public money and to think about what companies, it's what we're doing. I mean, we have this airband initiative.”
2019-09-09 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · Recode Decode: Microsoft President Brad Smith · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“What are this? Just finish up, what would be the biggest solution to do that? Because a lot have been tried, this whole silicon hauler. I just think it's just, look, the jobs, they're not going to, a coal miner's not going to, most of them are not going to become coders. They're just not. And some of these programs aren't very good. A lot of it is locationally based. But what do you think the most important thing to do of all the things to try here?”
2019-09-09 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · Recode Decode: Microsoft President Brad Smith · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Yeah, every single aspect of American society, you realize this isn't part as a technology issue and a technology skills issue. And we in the tech sector and across the country more broadly need to peel the layers of the onion and think about this technology dimension and think about in part what we as an industry can do to help solve it.”
2019-09-09 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · Recode Decode: Microsoft President Brad Smith · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“We have a populist in the White House in part because rural America feels that the government doesn't understand it. And we point out that in important respects people in these communities are right. The government doesn't understand it. Then we have another gap. It's the skills gap. And it is, I think, very disconcerting as we point out that if you look at who has access, say, in high school to computer science class, the people who have access to these new skills are more male, more white, more affluent, and more urban than the United States as a whole. So here is this fantastic skill that can propel people into greater prosperity, a brighter future, and it is not being made available equally. And that is a critical public policy issue. Let's face it, if the government does one thing. Almost entirely as a public matter, it's education.”
2019-09-09 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · Recode Decode: Microsoft President Brad Smith · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“So much of the government data about rural communities is just inaccurate. And one argument we make in this book is that we need a national cause to bring broadband to every part of the country. We've done this. We did it with the telephone. Franklin Roosevelt did it with electricity. We need to do it in some ways with new technology. That's what we're focused on at Microsoft. We do need government funding for the right kind of targeted public matching investments and we should do it and say we're going to close and eliminate this gap over the next five years. It can be done. And we highlight in the book the connection between that issue, which is a technology issue and the politics of our day.”
2019-09-09 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · Recode Decode: Microsoft President Brad Smith · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Yeah, no, these are issues about which we have a lot of passion. I would say there are some big technology gaps in this country today, as well as in the world. The first gap is the rural gap. And we share the story of going to a particular county in eastern Washington state, the county that has the highest unemployment rate, and what you find is they're still living in the 1990s when it comes to the dial-up era. You see how difficult it is to attract jobs. You see the impact on culture. You actually see this interesting phenomenon where almost”
2019-09-09 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · Recode Decode: Microsoft President Brad Smith · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Okay, let's finish up talking about rural broadband and sort of the talent gap of where people are. Because I think those are together, is that there's talent everywhere. And I think it's just a question of opportunity, not a question of talent. But we remain stubbornly non-diverse as a tech community. Only because it's a question about opportunity, it seems like. There was a really good tweet yesterday of people jumping from jump to jump, and someone called it white guys funding each other. You know what I mean? Because it was like all like, and then they patted themselves on the back. Talk about what we need to do to bring in rural broadband, take advantage of the talent across the country. Microsoft has been doing some of this, making some investments in this area. Finish up talking about where that's headed.”
2019-09-09 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · Recode Decode: Microsoft President Brad Smith · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“I'll again say I just don't think it's likely that breakup is the remedy that occurred that typically is pursued, but we'll see antitrust cases move forward. We'll see sectoral... Regulations that are aimed at addressing specific parts of technology, I think we may see more of a focus on particular business models. Certainly the advertising-based business model is increasingly in the cross errors of regulators.”
2019-09-09 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · Recode Decode: Microsoft President Brad Smith · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“All right, so when you think of it that way, do you imagine that these companies will be broken up? You just don't know. Because here you have, you haven't had a new social media company since 2011. You haven't had a search engine since the beginning of time, beginning of search. There's one. There's just simply, I mean, I know you guys are trying real hard over Bing, but sorry, they seem to have dominate. Is that the only, because a lot of people feel that there can't be innovation without why bother going into several different sectors e-commerce is another one?”
2019-09-09 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · Recode Decode: Microsoft President Brad Smith · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“But more other kinds of constraints that are imposed. But I think some of the problems that people worry about the most, in fact, may be problems that call for action outside the antitrust sphere. Or we may see a third development, and in fact, I think it's fair to say it is a development that is emerging. Historically, antitrust law was used to go after solely economic issues and economic harms. And now we're seeing a new school of antitrust thinking, which says, no, let's look at the harms to democracy, let's look at the harms to privacy. Let's think about the impact of data. Yeah, and the current head of the Antitrust Division and the Justice Department has endorsed this”
2019-09-09 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · Recode Decode: Microsoft President Brad Smith · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Well, I'm not one who believes that breakup is an inevitable, nor am I an advocate for breaking up companies. And in fact, if you are forced to spend as much time studying the history of antitrust law as I was 20 years ago, what you really see is that Breakups are talked about all the time and are almost never imposed. I think the real question should be, what problem do people want to solve? What is the best way to solve that problem? If one thinks it's an antitrust problem, there are a variety of antitrust solutions, not potentially fines for all the reasons you mention.”
2019-09-09 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · Recode Decode: Microsoft President Brad Smith · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“One party or the other. Nobody believes them. I agree with you. I think they are, but I think nobody believes them. And then related to that is the concept of whether these companies should be broken up. Now, all the Democratic candidates, I've noticed lately suddenly Pete Buddig is saying things, Elizabeth Warren obviously is the best known one of breaking them up or regulation. But all the Democrats have jumped on that particular bandwagon. Do you see breakup as, or will it be a combination of fines, which many people find inadequate? I find the recent YouTube one to be inadequate, the recent Facebook one to be inadequate. Is it a combination of things like fines and certain regulations or is breakup inevitable”
2019-09-09 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · Recode Decode: Microsoft President Brad Smith · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“I think it's difficult to imagine how you import a fairness doctrine and at the same time I think most of the people in the tech sector, at least at the leadership level, Do strive for something that is not putting a thumb on the scale for one party or the other. And I think”
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“Related to hate speech and others is the press from conservative side, like Senator Hawley and others, that there needs to be President Trump, that we're looking into this. He's not looking into anything, but that's besides the point. But the idea that it has to be even-handed, like a fairness doctrine.”
2019-09-09 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · Recode Decode: Microsoft President Brad Smith · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“I think we need to move from a situation where we say we can't do anything because it's so difficult to figure out what to do. To a conversation where we identify at least some smart things that can be done but recognize the limits on them and recognize the importance of this balance. There have been columnists at the New York Times that I think have said pretty persuasively a world where tech companies absolve themselves of all responsibility in the name of free expression is not actually creating the world, at least the world of technology we want.”
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“Is it impossible thing? I was just, you know, there's always every week there's something else. And recently there was one where a lot of people who push free speech then don't like it when they're insulted. And it's like, oh, you can't call a manager to fix it. There's no fixing any of it. Like people can say what they want. And then people become indignant when they themselves are subject to being attacked”
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“I think that we live in a world where the American conception of the First Amendment and free expression is actually at one end of the political spectrum. And we are having to adapt and adjust to certain standards from other countries that address certain aspects of hate speech. But I also agree it's a very delicate balance. It is a balance where there are human rights interests that are important to advance free expression, but it's a big world. And we do have to work especially with other democratic governments across Europe and elsewhere about how to address this.”
2019-09-09 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · Recode Decode: Microsoft President Brad Smith · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“So, you don't feel like TechCom should have any role in monitoring hate speech or getting rid of people because it goes down or the health of the conversation. Right now they're all talking about these healthy conversations, which I think it's impossible. It's an impossible. You can't have healthy. You can have some healthy conversations on it, but it tends towards an unhealthy conversation.”
2019-09-09 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · Recode Decode: Microsoft President Brad Smith · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Yeah, they are. But we should recognize you can't impose on a tech company because you can't impose on anybody the responsibility to be the ultimate arbiter of what news is true and what news is false. But you can start to impose some responsibilities to identify who is speaking. If content is being posted, what country is it coming from? If content is spreading, is it a human who is doing the speaking or is it a bot? If you think about the nature of political advertising in the United States, there's a really interesting analogy, in my view. We point to it in the book. We don't try to say, oh, this politician can say this in an ad or not, but you always do know at the end of the day.”
2019-09-09 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · Recode Decode: Microsoft President Brad Smith · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“I think it is to identify certain areas where certain responsibilities can be assumed. And indeed, because of the events in Christchurch and what's called the Christchurch call. There are certain responsibilities that tech companies are stepping up to. I do think as we think about all these issues around fake news and the like, we should all...”
2019-09-09 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · Recode Decode: Microsoft President Brad Smith · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Looking at the world globally, it's being touched all over the place. I think what one has to Move towards is a conversation that says look, no one should want this abolished if it were abolished tomorrow, then there are just fundamental technological services that would be put at great risk. So, if you want to avoid that result, put a little bit of thought into what's the right way to touch it in a balanced and thoughtful way What is a good model for the next 20 years?”
2019-09-09 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · Recode Decode: Microsoft President Brad Smith · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“So, how do we do that? Because I think whenever I mention it to people, YouTube, they just turn white because they feel like their businesses would be sued out of existence. And they're probably right in many ways.”
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“And the real question that we should be asking ourselves, in my view in the tech sector, the question that we address in this book is not whether we want to continue to live in the past because I think the past is now over. The real question we should be asking ourselves is, what is the right future? And I would argue it needs to be a future that preserves fundamental... Benefits in Section 230, it's what makes the social media model possible. But there are some new responsibilities, and we need to take them on. And we would be better served to develop and advance our own ideas.”
2019-09-09 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · Recode Decode: Microsoft President Brad Smith · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Yeah, it hasn't changed yet. Would say the law is changing very quickly And even if Section 230 itself does not change, all of us in the tech sector are going to need to because of these other countries. I actually believe that we are seeing a wave, and the wave is going to come back to the shores of the United States. actually probably will see some change in this country as well, but the US is a wave.”
2019-09-09 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · Recode Decode: Microsoft President Brad Smith · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Within three weeks after that, the Australian government passed a new law that imposes criminal penalties, not just fines, but prison sentences on tech executives if they don't expeditiously remove violent terrorist or extremist content. Two weeks after that, we saw the British government introduce a new proposal. We've seen the French and German governments use this as an opportunity to advance their proposals as well. If you almost envision a map of the world, it's easy in the United States to think that the United States itself is the center of the world. We have this statute. It hasn't changed yet.”
2019-09-09 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · Recode Decode: Microsoft President Brad Smith · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“We would clearly hope not. No. But what we saw, and this is the really interesting and important point, is all of a sudden things changed. The Christchurch attack was on March 15th. Jacinda Ardern, the Prime Minister of New Zealand, within 10 days, said, we need tech companies to take a different approach.”
2019-09-09 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · Recode Decode: Microsoft President Brad Smith · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Exactly. And what we've seen in 2019 is two factors or forces really come together. One is concern about nation-state disinformation campaigns, principally Russian campaigns, now well documented starting in 2016 in the United States. But then we saw a second development emerge as well. It was the Christchurch terrorist attack. And the use of in that case a terrorist Use social media and the internet as a stage. And these are two very different things, but they've reinforced concerns among governments to impose more responsibilities on tech companies. And I should hasten to add it's easy to think about YouTube and Facebook and Twitter, but a company like Microsoft has LinkedIn. We have services like Xbox Live. This is broader. Yes, there are.”
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“I think 2019 has been an inflection point year for this issue. As you point out, Section 230 was created in the 1990s. The idea was to give broad immunity to interactive computer services. The notion was the internet was young. It needed to grow up.”
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“The other is the protection of what you would call citizen data. That's the government surveillance side of the coin. And that is this issue that keeps evolving. We share some of the big decisions that have been made, not just by governments, but in the tech sector over the last five years, the debates between government and tech. But these two things are going to continue to evolve, I think, in a very robust. And at times even dramatic way over the next five years.”
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“Absolutely hacking. Yeah, the interesting thing about privacy is it's actually a two sided issue, so to speak. One side of it is the protection of consumer data. That's what people like Alistair McTegger to focus on.”
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“Because one in every eight Americans lives in California, if California is the only state that enacts a privacy law, I do believe it will be the... There are some others. I think ultimately we are a country that needs a national privacy law. I gave a speech in 2005 in Washington, D.C. calling for a national privacy law and everybody fast.”
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“Basically, what Alistair did, and I just You won't find perhaps everybody in the tech sector applauding what he did, but I think it is absolutely worthy of applause. He said, We need some laws in this country that better protect privacy. We have gridlock at the national level. He looked at the situation in Sacramento. He said, we're going to have gridlock there, but California, as some other Western states, has this thing called a ballot initiative. So he used his own money. Collect more than twice the number of signatures needed to put a strong privacy initiative on the ballot. It was going to go before the public. Once it was on the ballot, it brought people to the negotiating table and we saw California adopt a privacy law.”
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“Persuaded the European Court of Justice to strike down a safe harbor and push the U.S. government to strengthen privacy protection, and the other, a San Francisco-based real estate developer, Alastair McTaggart. And there's an interesting lesson in both of their stories. One is the opportunity for the European Union to use its influence as it did with the United States to strengthen privacy around the world. And then the other, and I think it's the really interesting lesson from Alistair McTaggart's experience, is to use.”
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“Well, I think there's an interesting aspect of the story around privacy, which we really sought to bring to life in our book. And in a sense, the chapter on privacy is the story of, as we describe it, The too unlikely individuals who have most influenced privacy protection in the United States. One, an Austrian student named Max Schrems, who”
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“All right, related to surveillance is privacy, the idea of privacy. I mean, because that's one part of privacy. It seems as if it's all over the map across the world, but Europe is obviously more stringent. The United States has privacy bills all over the place. There's one coming online in California. Where do you imagine that ending up? Whoever has the strongest global one will be the winner here?”
2019-09-09 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · Recode Decode: Microsoft President Brad Smith · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“If we step back and just think about the evolution of technology, I think facial recognition is an incredible illustration of the degree to which we should want people to have the opportunity to be creative, to be innovative. If you asked about any technology two years into its development, is that the only thing it will ever do, you would have killed the smartphone five years before the iPhone was invented You know, so we don't want to stifle technology, at least, in my view, but we've got to have strong guardrails, especially for this technology. And we should be prepared to say that there are some uses that we should never permit and there are some uses that we should not allow until the technology is more mature than it is today.”
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“Yeah, I think the problem is it won't be for that limited use. It'll be for, you know, you'll do it for getting, I mean, years ago I did clear, and I regret it, but it's too late, right? What could I do? It's out of the bag, essentially.”
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“That has realized that there is a certain genetic syndrome that tends to manifest itself more among people from Asia, Latin America, and Africa, where there are certain facial characteristics. that then are related to more serious health hazards including kidney damage and the like and by using this kind of technology physicians are able to augment their natural abilities with this kind of technology tool.”
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“I was fascinated. I was in Brazil Three months ago. And there is a nonprofit organization that works to find missing children and missing adults who are family members. And in some cases, they are missing adults that have mental health issues. They might be separated from their families. They're homeless. The family in a lawful way can provide photographs of their loved one. And then, if somebody ends up in a hospital emergency room or arrested by the police, they can take a photo in real time and run it against the database and a probability appears that this is the person. Yeah, there's one. And I'll say it is one that has reunited missing people. Now I'll give you another one. There is an effort in Washington, D.C. under the auspices of the National Institute of Health”
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“Where already they have more privacy protections because of the nature of European law. But the other phenomenon that is interesting that should actually speak to any company that wants to be in the facial recognition business is we're starting to see court decisions here in the United States, Facebook lost at least a preliminary decision based on Illinois law that could go quite far in actually making it difficult to develop and use facial recognition even for very beneficial purposes. I think it's the classic case of if you want good things to prosper you better be thoughtful and responsible because if you're not, you're going to find that people are going to end up throwing out the baby and the bathwater.”
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“Well, interestingly. Yeah, we're seeing two phenomenons. I mean, one is we're seeing at the national level some governments start to move faster, and I don't think people will be surprised to hear that that is likely to be in Europe.”
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“Yes, so as to ensure that we don't have people arrested or taken downtown in the back of a police car for an incorrect identification or worse ongoing or even mass surveillance. So I think we're going to see all of these things addressed, and I think we need governments to step forward, but I actually wholeheartedly agree with what you also said. This is not an issue where a tech company should be permitted to say we may create this technology, but we only have one responsibility, and that's to follow some law when some government passes it somewhere. Want to be an industry that is respected by the public for doing more than selling whatever we can create to anybody who is prepared to buy it, then we darn well better say we have some principles we're going to apply to ourselves even when the law is not yet in place.”
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