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Brian Schatz

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first: 2021-07-19
most recent: 2021-07-19
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“That's a thing. And he said, he told me that. You know, it made him very popular with members, and he was the first person to make sure that the women's and the men's side were equally resourced, which is a big deal. I don't exercise indoors for the most part, so I don't go to the Senate gym. I've been inside of it. It's small and lovely. That's all I can tell you”
2021-07-19 · Pod Save America · “Is Facebook killing people?” (with Sen. Brian Schatz) · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“So, I don't know about the house, Jim. I heard it's fancy. My good friend and the former governor, Neil Abercrombie, was the chairman of the subcommittee on the gym.”
2021-07-19 · Pod Save America · “Is Facebook killing people?” (with Sen. Brian Schatz) · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Yeah, that's what I would imagine is like I give it 12 minutes a day and I scan and see if there's anything I need to know and then I move on to more long form stuff where it's like I keep scrolling and going like I should probably I should probably read something that's longer than a tweet Oh, but what about this thing? Oh, but what about this thing? And so it's only on the airplane that I can do the long form stuff.”
2021-07-19 · Pod Save America · “Is Facebook killing people?” (with Sen. Brian Schatz) · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Well, I don't know about the fundraising piece, but I do think more and more members are running their own Twitter. And it's getting more interesting because sort of one of the things that I've said, and Corey in particular has said to the whole caucus, is if you're prepared to talk to somebody while you're walking onto the Senate floor on the fly, then you should be prepared to do your own tweets, right? I think the fear, right, is that you're going to tweet something that you didn't mean to say, but you've got more control over what you write and then press send than how you respond to someone from roll call sticking a microphone in your mouth on your way to the Senate floor off of a red eye flight. And so there's a bunch of members who are getting a little more comfortable.”
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“Corey Booker is not that on Twitter anymore. I think he's just decided it was not a good use of his time. In fact, I got to send him tweets and say, hey, look, I tweeted at you.”
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“What's We did great, we did great, but I can't say it was because of me. I do remember a buddy of mine calling and saying, did I just vote for president on a post-it note? I said, I'm pretty sure you did.”
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“In your opinion, well, I just want to say, someone who was running against me had a pretty good burn about, you know, I was the Obama for Hawaii guy. And they were like, oh, yeah, you led the committee to make sure the sun comes up tomorrow morning. So it was not the most difficult campaign. It was a lot of fun and we did a lot of organizing, but our challenge was, oh my God, we got too many volunteers. We're running out of ballots. Like we got to go camp up. You guys mopped up, though.”
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“They wanted every single dollar of revenue to be remitted. They wanted to be revenue neutral, which means all the money gets remitted back to the rate payer and the taxpayer. And our model was totally different. Our model generates revenue for environmental justice, for members of labor unions who are going to be dislocated. Whether or not we pass a carbon fee, coal is not going to last for another several decades. So our carbon fee is progressive, and we spent a lot of time listening, but also explaining that not every carbon fee is sort of written by corporations. Ours is written with them in mind.”
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“I don't want to, I really don't want to predict what parliamentarians are going to do. It's highly technical. You get professional staff who spend like six hours with her making the case. And so who knows how all that's going to go? But I would just say that I believe a carbon fee still has to be on the table. And the bill that Senator Whitehouse and I and Martin Heinrich and Kirsten Gillibrand and others have introduced is a progressive carbon fee. And I think that one of the things that's happened over the last couple of years is I spent a ton of time with environmental justice leaders who had real reservations about a carbon fee, but frankly, a lot of the reservations were based on like a sort of Exxon sponsored organization that wants a carbon fee so they can just kind of like move on from this.”
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“That we have devolved or delegated our authority over lawmaking to an unelected person who's interpreting the law or our own internal rules best we can. It is within our authority to overrule the parliamentarian who is not an elected official. She's trying her best. She's on the level. It's our fault, right? And so, of course, I want everything possible to fit through this reconciliation aperture, right? But if it doesn't, I think we should overrule her because these rules are a creature of us. And it's about, you know, rules in service of the institution rather than an institution in service of its own rules”
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“Let me take the first one, the last one first. I'm reasonably hopeful about it, but as it relates to the parliamentarian, I guess I would just say. That we ought to be careful not to make this her fault. This is our fault. No, no, no. In the Senate.”
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“Some individuals, I don't even call them brave, but there were some individual election administrators who did the right thing. I don't think it's that brave. Like, abide by the results of an election. I don't think we should count that as an act of courage, but there were individual decisions that were the right ones throughout the country on both sides of the aisle. And I think we just have to, I mean, one thing I direct your listeners' attention to is secretaries of state and county clerks to the extent that they're elected. There's some bananas people running for that with Trump's endorsing. Almost explicitly.”
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“Without a shot being fired, without a thug breaking through a window, because I think it's almost a certainty that the capital will be extremely safe the next time there's an electoral count, right? And so the crime against the country was manifested as a physical siege on the capital. But what I worry about is now we're going to say, okay, we're going to have a barrier around the capital. We're going to have better security protocols. And it's like, okay, well, that's great. But what happens if the Congress just comes in and flips the goddamn presidential vote because they've all been overtaken by Donald Trump's base? And so I think we have to worry about both things, right? The physical security of the capital, but also the electoral count and the extent to which there were.”
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“You kind of have to just be able to handle this kind of level of combat and situational partnerships because otherwise you're just going to sit there in a corner and only work with the people with whom you agree, which are never going to add up to even 50, let alone 60. And so, yeah, you got to compartmentalize. But compartmentalizing to the extent that you're trying to work with someone who ignores that the capital was under siege. And to me, the physical siege of the capital was a manifestation of an even bigger problem, which was they tried to overturn democracy. And so... Sorry for going off on a bit of a tangent, but I think this is kind of important. What I worry about more than a siege on the capital, again, is a nonviolent siege on democracy itself, an overturning of the electoral college vote.”
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“Yeah, I mean, you know It's hard. I mean, it's hard just as a human. I think anyone who's in the Senate and can't compartmentalize just at the human level and can't deal with someone with whom you disagree pretty strongly or even dislike pretty strongly, then you're probably not going to be very effective in the Senate because the deal is.”
2021-07-19 · Pod Save America · “Is Facebook killing people?” (with Sen. Brian Schatz) · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Fair enough, demanded that we vote on that. And so now, just Proceed to a bill requires 60 votes. So there are a bunch of reforms that could improve the process. Still allow Joe and Kirsten and others to stand on. I didn't eliminate the filibuster. In fact, I saved the filibuster by making it work better.”
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“And it's like, here's what's gonna happen tomorrow. Technically, any member could be like, I object, we're gonna vote on all this stuff. The committees can't meet till noon. Like the Senate rules as they exist are completely untenable, and the only way we function on a day-to-day basis is every night we get a unanimous consent, which means everybody doesn't object, and then we have like all this functional stuff, the Foreign Relations Committee is going to meet a 10 and blah, blah, blah, right? And so the motion to proceed, for instance, used to be never voted on. We just got onto a bill and then some jerk, actually, I don't know if it was a jerk because I don't know who it was in history.”
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“I think the likelihood of them being tried is pretty high. And I think we should Because I think that there's nothing that, for instance, Kirsten said that prevents the filibuster rules from being changed, right? Because there's lots of arcane details, you guys know this stuff, but like we need 60 votes just to. Proceed to a bill, not to vote for it, but just to get on it. And so, and the motion to proceed used to be like the equivalent of the, like at the end of every Senate day, it's like, hey, we're going to convene at 10 a.m. and these committees are going to meet and blah, blah, blah. And technically, you could require a roll call vote for every single one of those, like basically ministerial little things that we do. It's called a wrap-up script every night”
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“Of people who would sort of present themselves as leaders of a movement. And what a thing to say, right? One of thing to say. If we don't do this, it's over, right? And it's never over. And so I don't want to present to you good news that I don't have on voting rights in the legislative context, but I just want to say don't despair because hope is a decision. And we've got to keep exercising it, even if we're not even sure what the pathway is forward, we know for sure that if we say, oh, we are well and truly and it's October of an odd numbered year, then we are well and truly”
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“The statutory and constitutional provisions that protect the sacred right to vote. But no matter what happens, no matter what happens with the filibuster, with the John Lewis Voting Rights Act, with H.R. 1, we have to keep fighting, fighting, fighting because everybody, all of our, I was thinking about this, all of our predecessors, whether it was in the 60s and 70s or whether it was the Civil War or whether it was World War II, they've faced these existential threats. And I very much doubt that the leaders of the movements that prevailed said, oh, we are well and truly... And there's so much of that stuff on Twitter”
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“Where the only solution is to yell at my colleagues who have basically promised not to break the filibuster and just assume that if you're a senator from Arizona, you're a senator from West Virginia, that you can be pressured into flipping on this. I think that's just like tactically not smart, right? Because I take them at their word. They don't want to break the filibuster. Now, are there ways to modify the filibuster to make it work better? Sure. Should we keep the pressure up? Absolutely. But again, authoritarian regimes, and Tommy, you know this better than I do, but I've been studying a ton about this. They really do thrive on this sense of the inevitability of them winning, right? Of a minority of people ruling the majority of people and the majority of people feeling absolutely powerless. And so, yes, we should fight for.”
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“Because the system is actually rigged structurally, then they will not turn out. So we've got to keep two things, two sort of things in tension in our own minds and coming out of our own mouths. One is that this is creeping authoritarianism and it is the offspring of the big lie, right? And that you can draw a straight line from the big lie to January 6th to all this voter suppression. And so we have to have that sense of urgency about passing legislation at the state and the federal level. We have to have a sense of urgency about Attorney General Garland and his deputies who are extraordinary. I'm doing everything they can to enforce the law and the Constitution. And I'm not suggesting that this is not as bad as it seems. I am saying, however, that if we build up to the point.”
2021-07-19 · Pod Save America · “Is Facebook killing people?” (with Sen. Brian Schatz) · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Not particularly And so I think there's kind of two ways to look at this. First of all, I want to go back to the thing I said about despair. This one in particular, the language has gotten so apocalyptic and for very understandable reasons because the threat is very real, that it does run the risk of having the impact that Trump did on his voters in Georgia, that if people feel like they cannot win.”
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“I have, and they're sort of like, well, take, you know, we're the messaging people over here. We'll take that under advisement.”
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“Or what's new, right? They just, even the excellent reporters have a bias towards newness that drives me up a damn wall. But I will tell you that this thing is so popular and so helpful to millions and millions of families that it's not about capturing a news cycle, it's about being relentless about the child tax credit. So many families are going to get so much help from the federal government for the foreseeable future because of something that we did that people didn't even know we were doing it when it happened. So we've got it in the American Jobs Plan we've got to extend this and then frankly we've got to run on it. We've got to make sure that everybody understands what we've done.”
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“You know, I think your point, Tommy, is that we're crappy at capturing the imagination of the Beltway Press. Well, fair enough.”
2021-07-19 · Pod Save America · “Is Facebook killing people?” (with Sen. Brian Schatz) · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Right? The idea is to put more and more things on the electric grid and then put more of that electric grid on renewable energy resources as aggressively as practicable. But the idea is not to turn our society into like 150 years ago where nothing works anymore. And I do think that the utility companies of old and the oil companies of old really put the fear of God in a lot of people that that's actually where we wanted to land. And like if we had our druthers that we would instantaneously just literally ban all fossil fuel generation and transmission and distribution. And look, I think we should get rid of it as quickly as we can, but as quickly as we can is a matter of citing and permitting and then getting it onto the grid, which is going to be decades.”
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“Some number of years, we're still going to be lighting things on fire to create electrons. And what he is hearing is that basically all of these things will be instantaneously banned. And I think even the most aggressive climate activists understand that we're still going to need to put gasoline in our cars. And for until we cite and permit and construct and plug into the grid all of this renewable energy, we're not going to take away electricity from people. And so I think there's a fair amount of room to move here. I don't want to like overstate my optimism as it relates to conversations I've had with Joe, but I would just say that he's moved a lot and I think he understands that those of us who have like serious plans as it relates to clean energy understand that both politically and morally, we can't de-electrify the United States of America.”
2021-07-19 · Pod Save America · “Is Facebook killing people?” (with Sen. Brian Schatz) · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Well, I mean, we've had multiple conversations, and like you said, I wouldn't divulge at least his side of the conversation. But let me give you my perspective. When I was point person in Hawaii on the Hawaii Clean Energy Initiative, right? Like the business community is sitting there going, wait a second, we have the Pacific Command and we have Waikiki and we need firm, reliable power. And I said, yeah, of course we do. We're just going to move the percentage of our portfolio up as aggressively as possible. And in the meantime, yeah, we're going to be lighting LSFO, low sulfur fuel oil on fire to create electrons. That's a stupid thing to do, but I'm not a maniac. I don't want to stop that instantaneously and have nobody be able to turn their lights on. And so the sort of gap between someone like me and someone like Joe Manchin as a practical matter is not as wide as it appears because all he's saying is, hey, for at least”
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“To Columbia University, resources for the future, MIT, and the federal government, and they have like modeling shops, literally, who do these statistical models, and they'll take all the provisions from any proposal, and within three or four days they'll spit out, okay, that'll get you X number of degrees of warming. That's my test. I don't care, I mean, I don't want to say I don't care, but my primary concern is not satisfying any individual constituency. My primary concern is satisfying my daughter who's 13, who's saying, you better do something on climate. You're going to fly back and forth 50 times a year. That's the reason you're in the United States Senate. And that's how we have to look at this, which is a youth climate corps is great. My bike lane electric bike provision is great. I love my carbon fee bill. I love the environmental justice provision.”
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“Or not. And look, Keystone's dead, and the climate is still a huge challenge. So you can use individual provisions in this bill as a rallying point, but don't underestimate the importance of a package of provisions that actually add up to 1.5 degrees centigrade. So the point being we're not negotiating with each other. We're not even negotiating with Republicans. It's physics that we're contending with. And so, you know, not to get too wonky here, but my test, you know, I get asked almost daily, well, what is the one thing you need in the bill? Is it your carbon fee bill? Is it a clean electricity standard? Is it electrification of transportation? First of all, I say it's all of it. But second of all, the rather maybe unsatisfying answer for someone who wants a pithy quote is, the truth is, I'm going to take all of these things and I'm going to send them.”
2021-07-19 · Pod Save America · “Is Facebook killing people?” (with Sen. Brian Schatz) · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“So, first of all, don't despair. And the reason that I say don't despair is not sort of just to be reassuring, but we have to remind ourselves that our opponents thrive on our despairing. They want us to feel despondent. They want us to feel like it can't be done. And so momentum begets momentum in the political context. And so we should turn our righteous outrage into action. But those actions should be equal to the moment, which is to say, it is not about finding some line in the sand and like whipping Democratic members about whether they're for a specific provision in the climate bill. Because the danger there is what I would call like the keystone thing, which was an important fight, and I was opposed to the Keystone pipeline, but in the end, that became like the measure of whether or not we were making progress on climate.”
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“Climate, but the kind of climate action that will meet the moment, understanding that it's super rare for us to have the trifecta. But look, we're a diverse caucus and people are going to have hives about various pieces of the bill. And we got to work that out. So I don't want to underestimate the challenge in front of us. But I think there's a recognition that the Democratic caucus has to deliver on climate and not for some sort of obscure political reason because it's going to win us the midterms, but because the planet is on fire and everybody gets that and the collective determination is giving me a ton of hope.”
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“Yeah, I don't remember a climate interview with Fox. First of all, I think that my experience in Hawaii when we were starting the Hawaii Clean Energy Initiative in 1999, there were lots of kind of stupid arguments in retrospect between people who cared about wind or people who cared about solar or people who cared about conservation. And what we realized is that the best policy pathway and the best political pathway are to enact all of the various measures to address the climate because the size of the problem and the size of the opportunity is so massive that we really have to throw everything we've got at it. And that sort of unlocks a political universe where we don't really have to fight with each other over very much. The top line number that was authorized or not authorized that has been contemplated of 3.5 trillion provides enough room for us to do not just meaningful stuff on”
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“Yeah, two points. Well, three points. First, Vox, not Vox, right? I said Vox, yeah. Did I say Fox? I just couldn't hear it. I know you were on Tuck.”
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“Time and Axios will report trouble for the bill every 72 hours. But, and we're in a good spot, and I'm feeling pretty optimistic.”
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“Well, I think it's a couple of things. It's a mood, right? It's the sense that if Joe Biden's for it, if Chuck Schumer's for it, if Nancy Pelosi's for it, there is pretty good unity in the Democratic conference that we're going to move forward on the American Jobs Plan. We're also procedurally kind of in a good spot. We have plans to move on the so-called bipartisan infrastructure package and then followed by the budget resolution, which sort of unlocks reconciliation, which we can do in September. So we're like in pretty good shape procedurally, but I think it really more is an intuitive sense that there's a recognition we've got to do this. There's a sense of urgency. There's a sense of meeting the moment. And that doesn't mean that this bill won't face numerous near-death experiences along the way because it's a big bill and that's what happens and people threaten to kill it all the time.”
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