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Brian Stelter

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“The network of reality is flawed but trying. The network of reality is everything from my local paper, from the local blog in your neighborhood, to the New York Times and CNN and the AP. It's everything from a really great aggregator on X to the mom who posts on Facebook about news in her community. The network of reality is basically all of us. Everybody in this room, everybody who's a member of the media now who wants to know what is real and wants to fight back against what is false. We have to be louder than the liars. And that means different things for different people and different moments in different places. But I think that's what actually is happening every day. People are being louder than the liars. And I think that's what we're going to have to do. We have to find a way to push back against this. Oh, here it goes. Network of lies.”
2023-11-20 · On with Kara Swisher · The Fox News ‘Lying Tax,’ Tucker and More with Brian Stelter · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Okay, but if you want me to go on a limb and I don't think this country wants an autocrat. I really, really don't. I don't see it. I don't see it in the data. I don't see it in the lived experience of our neighbors. I live in a beautiful red town now in a red county. I moved out of the city the same week I was fired by CNN. It was the perfect timing. I started a whole new life. And my neighbors don't want a dictator. They don't want a fascist wannabe. Ultimately Trump may gain a lot more votes than that, but I don't think this country wants that.”
2023-11-20 · On with Kara Swisher · The Fox News ‘Lying Tax,’ Tucker and More with Brian Stelter · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“That's why burning the boats was such a tough decision. Burning the life raft. CNM Plus was the life raft. I know CNN Plus is sort of a punchline. It's amusing. It lasted for only a month. I had a show on it and they ordered coffee mugs for liable sources daily and the mugs didn't come until after the network was canceled. My favorite mug at home now. But the point about CNN Plus was not that the programming on day one was the right programming. It probably wasn't. I probably wasn't the right show at 11 a.m. that weekday, but it was a life raft. It was building a boat to get to the future. And there's no time to waste. So when he talks about prioritizing building those boats, I think that's the right thing. What I know from my reporting and from my relationships there is that morale is a lot better at CNN today.”
2023-11-20 · On with Kara Swisher · The Fox News ‘Lying Tax,’ Tucker and More with Brian Stelter · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“No, my point is when he was ousted, I had to report on it like it was happening at another company. And that was very difficult. But I haven't sat back and thought, was it fair or not? I don't know.”
2023-11-20 · On with Kara Swisher · The Fox News ‘Lying Tax,’ Tucker and More with Brian Stelter · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“We did not speak for six months after he was ousted. I think he might not have loved the way I covered the news. And I don't know if you've probably had that experience, right? Someone who you worked for, someone you were close with, you know, who doesn't love the way you cover them?”
2023-11-20 · On with Kara Swisher · The Fox News ‘Lying Tax,’ Tucker and More with Brian Stelter · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Well, it was stable, right? The ship was steady. Everyone knew who was in charge. Everyone was rowing in the same direction. And we had leaders, not just Jeb Zucker, by the way, who would have our back when it was scary, when it was complicated, when it was controversial. And I say not just Zucker because AT&T was the owner of CNN for basically the entire Trump presidency. AT&T with a board of directors, not exactly the most liberal directors you're going to find at a company, but between Zucker being a heat shield and AT&T having the networks back, we were able to tell the truth the way we saw fit. And so that's the way I look back at it.”
2023-11-20 · On with Kara Swisher · The Fox News ‘Lying Tax,’ Tucker and More with Brian Stelter · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“No, I actually approached that as a reporter. I was amazed by what Tim Alberta reported, and I got on the phone and started doing follow-ups. I had all these CNN people calling me telling me there was a mutiny underway that anchors and correspondents were telling David Levy, the new COO that Licked was not fit for the job and that he had to go. So that weekend, I was at my keyboard writing a story because for me the most comfortable thing is just to go back and to reporter mode. Just try to write. Best thing you and I can do is put new information into the world. So that's how I approached it. No, look, and I had to call Chris for comment. So, you know, I was just back to reporter mode. No, the only emotion I feel about it is it created a really rocky period for CNN in a time where there's no time for that. Industry's changing too dramatically. The race is streaming is on. There's no time for that kind of uncertainty and that.”
2023-11-20 · On with Kara Swisher · The Fox News ‘Lying Tax,’ Tucker and More with Brian Stelter · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“That's an accurate I think, well, listen, I truthfully don't know. So I truthfully don't know, and I'm at peace not knowing. It's kind of freeing, actually, not to know. Maybe that's what Tucker and I have in common. Tucker's going out there and he's come up with conspiracy theories about it. I tried not to go in that direction. I think it's clear, though, that CNN was trying to send a public signal that it wasn't the network of the Trump era, that it was something different now. And they're well within their rights to do it. Nothing in TV lasts forever. So that's my best guess, but I don't know, and I'm very, very happy not to know.”
2023-11-20 · On with Kara Swisher · The Fox News ‘Lying Tax,’ Tucker and More with Brian Stelter · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“So that it wasn't me, the CNN guy, talking about it. It was better to have people that weren't paid by CNN talking about that controversy. So I'm proud of the way that was handled.”
2023-11-20 · On with Kara Swisher · The Fox News ‘Lying Tax,’ Tucker and More with Brian Stelter · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“That you had on the air. I think on the righteous front, like there's a couple of commentaries that I would have deleted a sentence. But deleting a sentence or rephrasing the tone of a word, it doesn't take back the body of work. And I think we should be honest about what we were facing in those years. And frankly, what we're facing today, there is this war on truth. television networks and journalists have to be in the battle. You know, it doesn't mean that we're opposing candidates or opposing politicians. We have to favor truth and be on the side of truth. And that's uncomfortable. And it's going to cause people to lie about you and lie about your network. And maybe you're going to raise your voice a little bit too much once in a while. On being soft, no, I had Wempal on talking about Chris Cuomo, and Wemple went pretty hard at CNN, as I recall it. What I tried to do during the Cuomo controversies is book outside guests.”
2023-11-20 · On with Kara Swisher · The Fox News ‘Lying Tax,’ Tucker and More with Brian Stelter · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Exactly. We've had a generation that's been hurt by this software. But if I had to rank them, I would put that there. The reason I focus on Fox, and I talk about the accountability for the big lie, is that every time a Trump indictment came out this summer, I scurried to rewrite my book. Every time I would read the indictment, one of these indictments, I would see new examples of how Fox was a part of it, how all of this related back to Fox, how Rudy and Sidney Powell, who were named as an indicted co-conspirators, were on Fox line all the time in Georgia. Those voting machines that were breached in Coffee County in Georgia. Well, what kind of machines were they? Dominion machines. It all goes back to the smear that was on Fox. And so that's why I think this book is basically a preamble for the Trump trials. It's because it's looking at how it all went down to get to the point where Trump was indicted.”
2023-11-20 · On with Kara Swisher · The Fox News ‘Lying Tax,’ Tucker and More with Brian Stelter · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“There's no regulatory regime that oversees Fox News because Fox is on cable. And there won't be any time soon. At least with Meta and Google, there is activity, there's energy in Washington around something. Now, I'm skeptical, and I think you are too about the results.”
2023-11-20 · On with Kara Swisher · The Fox News ‘Lying Tax,’ Tucker and More with Brian Stelter · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“I don't know if we can untangle them because these things go back and forth so dramatically go back and forth. They're so connected. The video that's on Fox then gets Cheryl's on every platform. And crazy posts on X get posted live on Fox. And they're the premise of a segment on TV. So I don't know if we can detach them. I think they are so connected. I think if I had to stack rank them though right now as the parent of a four-year-old and a six-year-old, biggest fear in my life is about what happens when they get phones, when they demand to have a phone, when they're on social media, when they're on anti-social media.”
2023-11-20 · On with Kara Swisher · The Fox News ‘Lying Tax,’ Tucker and More with Brian Stelter · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“A decade later, trolls tried to say that I was a Jeffrey Epstein's house. They use that old tweet. I'm an upstreams as if it was proof. So it's like, I think I might need to delete my old tweets for safety.”
2023-11-20 · On with Kara Swisher · The Fox News ‘Lying Tax,’ Tucker and More with Brian Stelter · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“I have thought about deleting all my old tweets though. Really? Because, you know, 11, 12 years ago when Twitter was innocent and the internet was pure, I used to post where I was. And one night I was on the lower east side. Remember a bar called Epstein's?”
2023-11-20 · On with Kara Swisher · The Fox News ‘Lying Tax,’ Tucker and More with Brian Stelter · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“But that goes to speak of the fact that there's not really a successor, there's not something that can take over for Fox. Yes, there's Newsmax. Yes, there's the Daily Wire in Steve Bannon's war room. And they all matter a little bit. They all contribute to the network of lies effect. They all contribute to this echo chamber where you're hearing this craziness over and over again. But Fox is still the beating heart.”
2023-11-20 · On with Kara Swisher · The Fox News ‘Lying Tax,’ Tucker and More with Brian Stelter · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“I don't think no, I think his vision's different, right? His vision is to be the everything app and to have us do our banking on X. You're going to give over your account?”
2023-11-20 · On with Kara Swisher · The Fox News ‘Lying Tax,’ Tucker and More with Brian Stelter · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“He's trying to be, but that morning when Axios published a story saying, Elon's the new Rupert, he's the new conservative kingmaker. Oh, those Fox executives were howling. They even said there was even an edict that night when Rhonda Santis was going to announce his campaign on Twitter spaces. Remember that? Remember the crash? It was a disaster? So he had this announcement on Twitter spaces. A memo went out at Fox said, hey guys, let's downplay this. We've got them on our own here at 8 p.m. Don't play up the Twitter spaces thing. There was definitely some competition that night. But then it was a disaster. The thing didn't work. They were making fun of it on Fox. And for Fox executives, especially the Murdoch inner circle, this was a reaffirmation that Elon's not the new Rupert. The Twitter cannot be a replacement for Fox.”
2023-11-20 · On with Kara Swisher · The Fox News ‘Lying Tax,’ Tucker and More with Brian Stelter · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Cable is still the number one network on cable because it still has that connection through the cord. And if anything, the next two years are going to bring rebundling, right? Cable's looking more and more appealing as the streaming prices get higher and higher and the service gets worse and worse.”
2023-11-20 · On with Kara Swisher · The Fox News ‘Lying Tax,’ Tucker and More with Brian Stelter · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“The reason they're not positioned is because they don't have those lucrative spots on cable. And as much as people have ridden off cable and as much as we've seen cording, it is still, especially for older Americans, the media and Fox viewer is about 70 years old. Cable is still the primary way to access it. Fox News has something called Fox Nation. It's been around about five years. It did last longer than CNN Plus, Rest in Peace. But it's a streaming service that they've tried to get going. And I report in the book, it might get to 2 million subscribers this year. So it goes to show. It's very hard, especially in that way.”
2023-11-20 · On with Kara Swisher · The Fox News ‘Lying Tax,’ Tucker and More with Brian Stelter · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“I think that's right. And I think what the rest of us have to do as media consumers, as citizens, is to push and prod however we can and hold fox accountable however we can to say in this tug of war between democracy and autocracy there's got to be a lot more of us tugging on the democracy side”
2023-11-20 · On with Kara Swisher · The Fox News ‘Lying Tax,’ Tucker and More with Brian Stelter · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“It's different than Tucker. I think Tucker took pride in not showing Biden's addresses live. There was a difference. Now, one of the differences is now a war in the Middle East active, but I do wonder, and I think what we should look for are signs in 2024. How much do the newspeople have power versus the opinion people, the propaganda arm versus the news arm? I have no problem with a conservative news operation. We should have lots of journalists at Fox out there reporting stories, but instead they mostly just have the propaganda. It's fair to the propaganda.”
2023-11-20 · On with Kara Swisher · The Fox News ‘Lying Tax,’ Tucker and More with Brian Stelter · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“A couple things have actually changed. Donald Trump is not allowed to call in anymore. He can't be in his pajamas at Trump Tower. Sorry for the image. And, you know, rant with the Fox and Friends hosts. He also can't be on live at all, even if he was on camera. They only tape the interviews because they're afraid of legal exposure. What a remarkable thing to say about a former president. They don't trust him to be live on TV. So I think that is what's changed. And then beyond that, I noticed something when Biden gave a primetime address that I thought was kind of interesting and maybe a hint of what's happening. Biden gave a prime time a speech about Israel and Hamas. And it was anchored by Brett Baer and Martha McCallum, who Fox considers the news, the news side, the news anchors, the newsletters. It was not Jesse Waters who was allowed to be in the chair. Jesse Waters, who won't even call the president president Biden, he calls him Sleepy Joe. It was actually the news side. And I know that sounds...”
2023-11-20 · On with Kara Swisher · The Fox News ‘Lying Tax,’ Tucker and More with Brian Stelter · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“That is the $60 billion question. I'm not sure what the market value today was. If stocks were up today, but that's the question between Fox and News, what happens to these two companies? And for those who don't know the background, there's four votes in the trust after Rupert dies. There's four votes in the trust. Each adult children gets a vote. Lachlan gets a vote, but so does his liberal brother James. James is disgusted by Fox News. He thinks it's poison. So does his wife Catherine. They're even spending some of the money they gain from the Disney deal where Fox sold assets to Disney on anecdotes to Fox's poison.”
2023-11-20 · On with Kara Swisher · The Fox News ‘Lying Tax,’ Tucker and More with Brian Stelter · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“He is tomorrow Yeah. Well, oh, oh, well, right. Stepping down. Look, I call it semi-retirement. I think that's the clue. This is the closest to retirement he'll ever get. It's only semi retire I think he's trying to anoint his son, Lachlan, even more than he already has. He's trying to prop up Lachlan even more than he already has. I quote a person in the book saying, he's trying to show that Lachlan's the chosen one. He's trying to make it harder for the other adult children to overrule or intervene in the future.”
2023-11-20 · On with Kara Swisher · The Fox News ‘Lying Tax,’ Tucker and More with Brian Stelter · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“I have not listed it in my head the top 10 or bottom ten. I think we could make a case for Elon if we were going to make that list as well, just because of what's happened to X. But I think the, yeah, so let me sleep on it.”
2023-11-20 · On with Kara Swisher · The Fox News ‘Lying Tax,’ Tucker and More with Brian Stelter · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Incredible. So the actual C Bannon quote is flood the zone with shit. He said it early on in the Trump years, and journalists felt that experience. We felt the you know what coming at us. Flooding the zone is what they're still doing today, these disinformation artists, and it's bigger than Fox. It really is a network of liars. But I do think he describes it correctly. I would just make it a little more complicated and say. And I know some people in our audience are not going to believe this. There are still people at Fox who believe they are journalists, who believe they can do the right thing. Tre Ingst in Israel is the best example right now, but there are many others. Now as many as there should be, not as many as there used to be, but there are still others there who think they can make this product better.”
2023-11-20 · On with Kara Swisher · The Fox News ‘Lying Tax,’ Tucker and More with Brian Stelter · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“At least by 5 p.m. on January 6th, the head of Fox Business says, No, Donald Trump, you cannot call into Lou Dobbs show. We don't think it's responsible for you to be on the air during the riot. It was as if at the very end, once the blood had stained the Capitol, someone at Fox finally had a shred of a conscience.”
2023-11-20 · On with Kara Swisher · The Fox News ‘Lying Tax,’ Tucker and More with Brian Stelter · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“And so we took a dog I agree with that assessment that there's no weakness. What I find baffling and frustrating is that I think there's a moral and ethical responsibility. And I think what I'm trying to call out is that failure to show that leadership.”
2023-11-20 · On with Kara Swisher · The Fox News ‘Lying Tax,’ Tucker and More with Brian Stelter · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“So it gets to your point. It was about ratings, it was about the fear of the viewers tuning out and going over to NewsMax where they wouldn't be offended by the truth.”
2023-11-20 · On with Kara Swisher · The Fox News ‘Lying Tax,’ Tucker and More with Brian Stelter · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“So, in that environment, you have Rupert having a great idea. His friend Preston Padden, former Fox executive, emails him with basically a script for the primetime anchors to read saying, we know Biden won, we're on board, we're going to be the loyal opposition. Suzanne Scott, the head of Fong Swiss Media, she's the one who replies to Rupert and says, our hosts are all there, but we have to be careful. I'm not direct quoting, but I'm paraphrasing. We have to be careful not to tick off the audience. You have to be careful not to offend the audience. I think that's what it all came down to. Even when Rupert was right and had a wise idea about showing leadership, there was this, hey, let's tiptoe. Let's tread lightly. We don't want to piss off our...”
2023-11-20 · On with Kara Swisher · The Fox News ‘Lying Tax,’ Tucker and More with Brian Stelter · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“That's right, this is just before January 6th. When the country is at a very dangerous moment. And I think we should remember that week for a moment. I was on air Sunday the 3rd. I said there might be violence. A lot of us were on air saying this could get very hairy on Wednesday. It was not as if it was a surprise that a mob attacked the capital. Gosh, Pete Hegsteth was on Fox that morning saying DC feels like a constitutional tinderbox Not as if they knew it was going to happen, but they sensed they smelled it. You could sense it in the air. So, in that environment, here's Rupert Murdoch. Oh, by the way, Sean Hannity, messaging Mark Meadows saying, I'm very afraid of the next 48 hours.”
2023-11-20 · On with Kara Swisher · The Fox News ‘Lying Tax,’ Tucker and More with Brian Stelter · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“No, they do at New Score with real news, with accurate reporting. But what I'm saying is what Rupert should be doing when he should intervene is when their lies airing on his network, when he should pick up the phone, is when there is BS being spread by his hosts. And that's what he didn't do. On Saturday, November 7th, he was emailing with Cole Allen, who was the editor of the New York Post at the time, Cole Allen, and he was saying, maybe we should write something that Trump might see, that Donald might see. And they ended up writing an editorial saying, get Rudy off TV. End your presidency with dignity. Like, don't humiliate yourself, Donald Trump. So here you have the head of the company saying, get Rudy off TV. And then the next morning, he's on TV with Maria Bartoromo. He's on Fox with Maria Bartaromo. And he's on again the next Sunday. And he's on again a few weeks later. And I'm thinking to myself, Rupert, where are you, man? Pick up the phone. Do something. You know, show the bike.”
2023-11-20 · On with Kara Swisher · The Fox News ‘Lying Tax,’ Tucker and More with Brian Stelter · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“But my assessment of it is more from his emails where he is saying what is true, but then not intervening with what is false. And I want to be clear because I've got some questions about this. I don't think media owners should be intervening in...”
2023-11-20 · On with Kara Swisher · The Fox News ‘Lying Tax,’ Tucker and More with Brian Stelter · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Sounds like the audience is with you based on that reaction. I was astonished by Rupert's deposition because it's under oath. And it's really the only time he's been interviewed in a decade. He doesn't talk to the press. He never would dare. He doesn't submit to questioning. But he had to sit down with Dominion lawyer Justin Nelson. And the lawyers later left. They told people, he seemed sharp as attack. He seems all there. He doesn't seem senile. And yet, Rupert repeatedly contradicted himself, acted like he had no idea what happened in 2020, acted like he was, you know, totally unplugged. And I get you're thinking that's his shit.”
2023-11-20 · On with Kara Swisher · The Fox News ‘Lying Tax,’ Tucker and More with Brian Stelter · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“He tells me in the book, it says the damages are bigger. The smart matter case is so. Can I tell you why it's so interesting? SmartMatic has a better case than Dominion. Because SmartMatic, you know, Dominion was easily for Dominion to prove that all the lies were lies. Smartmatic, it's even easier because Smartmatic was only operating in 2020 in one county in California. Sorry, in one county in the United States. Los Angeles County, California. Nobody believes that Trump won Los Angeles County, California. Smartmatic all Connolly has to do is get up and say this was the only county we were in. It should be case closed. That's why I think Fox will have to settle this before trial. But only after Connolly gets his depositions because he gets a second bite of the apple.”
2023-11-20 · On with Kara Swisher · The Fox News ‘Lying Tax,’ Tucker and More with Brian Stelter · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“That's why I quoted this information researcher Carolyn Nebueno in the book saying it's a lying tax. They had to pay a tax for line and it's baked into the business model. But let's see where we are in a year or two. Smartmatic is still suing fox. Depositions are underway. That lawyer, Jared Connolly.”
2023-11-20 · On with Kara Swisher · The Fox News ‘Lying Tax,’ Tucker and More with Brian Stelter · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“That kind of accountability. And ultimately, that's what went wrong. I haven't seen any signs that they're trying to change that, but paying out the $800 million was a big deal.”
2023-11-20 · On with Kara Swisher · The Fox News ‘Lying Tax,’ Tucker and More with Brian Stelter · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“And figure that out. You're right. And that's right. Like a toddler, she just shrugged. She didn't want to make the changes. So there isn't a system at Fox, there wasn't in 2020 and there isn't today.”
2023-11-20 · On with Kara Swisher · The Fox News ‘Lying Tax,’ Tucker and More with Brian Stelter · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“I mean, the amount of damage that's done to Fox. I think the amount of legal exposure that continues to this day means it was not worthwhile. And I think if they had the kinds of checks and balances that other networks have, this wouldn't have happened. So you're new at CNN. I'm a CNN veteran. At CNN headquarters, there's this thing called triad. Standards and practices. There are lawyers. There are editors. There are people who've been around 30 years who can look at an article, who can look at a script, and tell you if it's going to get you in trouble. And they saved my skin more than once. You know, that's the value of an actual network that has actual editors and layers of approval and vetting. It doesn't mean mistakes aren't made. Everyone's human, but at least it gives you a fighting chance. And what Fox has done, first of all, they don't have that kind of system. Second, what they did have was a brain room. They called it the brain room in the Ales era. And they have been laying people off from the brain room. During November of 2020, there were times when Janine Pierrot's script would be sent to the brain room. These researchers”
2023-11-20 · On with Kara Swisher · The Fox News ‘Lying Tax,’ Tucker and More with Brian Stelter · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“But in this fantasy world, Maria brings on Sidney Powell. Maria tees her up to smear dominion. Maria looks down at what appears, I don't know this for sure, but I think she's looking down at a piece of paper because she reads almost word for word the Looney Tunes email that she received from the woman in Minnesota. So she's mainstreaming this conspiracy theory into millions of people, saying that it's Dominion's fault. Trump lost the election, maybe, but it was stolen. It was Dominion's fault. Dominion's the villain's the thief That's on November 8th, and by November 12th, Trump starts repeating the name Dominion. So to me, by November 12th, Dominion has a winning case. And the fact that they waited until March to sue, it shows incredible restraint, actually.”
2023-11-20 · On with Kara Swisher · The Fox News ‘Lying Tax,’ Tucker and More with Brian Stelter · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“It's all in there. It's all in this email that Sidney Powell then forwards to Maria Bartoromo. And this is the beginning of the infection. This is the moment it starts. It wasn't Trump that came up with it. It was Fox. It was Sidney Powell sending it to Marie Bartomo because Sydney is going to be on the show the next morning. And then Maria sends it to her buddy Eric Trump. And within minutes, this BS is in the White House. It's in the Trump family. So this all happened Sunday, November 8th. In the real world, we were doing interviews about Biden's election and what was going to happen next.”
2023-11-20 · On with Kara Swisher · The Fox News ‘Lying Tax,’ Tucker and More with Brian Stelter · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“I think Fox might have become too comfortable getting those threatening legal letters and thus didn't take this one as seriously as they should have. Because if you go back to November of 2020, if you actually look at the evidence now, the way I've assembled it, it is abundantly clear that Dominion has a winning case within a week of the lie. The first lie, the timing is so interesting because I always thought going into this that it was Trump, that Trump was the one that ceded this storyline. And yeah, yes, you know, the night of the election, Trump came out and said he had won when he hadn't won yet. But by the time he actually lost, Saturday the 7th of November, Fox needed a new story. Trump needed a new story. And the new story came from a random woman in Minnesota who, by her own account, sees ghosts and talks to the wind, who describes her ideas as whack-a-doodle, who gets ideas from listening to people in the grocery store, checkout line. This random woman sent an email to Sidney Powell, the then Trump-aligned lawyer.”
2023-11-20 · On with Kara Swisher · The Fox News ‘Lying Tax,’ Tucker and More with Brian Stelter · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“She does. It's one of the things that grinds my gears about foxes how they lie about New York. They lie about DC. They make it out to be this terrifying hellscape. And I know we got our problems, but”
2023-11-20 · On with Kara Swisher · The Fox News ‘Lying Tax,’ Tucker and More with Brian Stelter · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Mostly rebounded. Yeah, 2.5 million plus a night. Tucker was at three on a good night. I think what it speaks to is an addiction on the part of the audience. I don't use words like brainwashing lightly. I don't use the word cult lightly. But those are the appropriate words to use.”
2023-11-20 · On with Kara Swisher · The Fox News ‘Lying Tax,’ Tucker and More with Brian Stelter · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“He is doing as well as anybody could replacing Tucker Carlson. He moved from 7 p.m. to 8 p.m. He was Bill O'Reilly's sidekick. He was the one Bill O'Reilly would send out to do ambush interviews and ask weird questions in front of unsuspecting strangers. Waters is basically a comic. He's the sidekick, but he's become the main actor. And he was probably the easy choice. That's what Fox News is about now. It's about minimizing headaches and maximizing profits. That's why you choose Jesse Waters. He's not going to get you in as much trouble as Tucker did. He's not going to go as far off the field. Although, I mean, Jesse Waters pushes nonsense almost every night. But he's not going to do false flag conspiracy there. It's about January 6th as explicitly as Tucker did.”
2023-11-20 · On with Kara Swisher · The Fox News ‘Lying Tax,’ Tucker and More with Brian Stelter · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Oh, we are I went back to my farm, and I had the best few months of my life. Like, this has been the best phase of my life, having time with my kids, being able to relax, being able to see the world differently. Tucker, what did he do? He raced on to Twitter and started making videos. I don't want to use the word desperate, but he desperately wanted to recreate that fame. And I think that's what he's doing now. He's posting videos a lot more often. He's going on a world tour with far-right figures. He's flirting with Donald Trump at a UFC match. He very much wants to restore his power and fortune and popularity. I think it's going to be very hard to do that without Fox, but if anyone can try, it's him.”
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“You know, I don't want to compare my experience with Tucker's because, well, for a lot of reasons. But when I got fired by CNN,”
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“I think he would tell you he's doing wonderfully. I think his friends would tell you that he's getting more viewers on X, but no one should believe that, right? The metrics are BS.”
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“You know, Suzanne Scott is the pain sponge. Thank you succession for making this so clear. She is the employee of Rupert Lotlin Murdoch, who's there to soak up all the pain, to make all the awkward phone calls, to deliver the bad news. But then she also pushes downward as well. So she makes her deputies the pain sponges. And all of a sudden you've got all these people who are pushing responsibility downward as opposed to having a leader on the top.”
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