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Brittany Kaiser

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  1. Yes, it definitely can be. I mean, I'm still on Facebook. I don't want Facebook to cease to exist. I just want them to stop abusing people. I understand why it was first created and connecting people should inherently be good. It's still possible for that to happen, but really serious steps need to be taken. And I think we've given them more than enough time to make those decisions. And I haven't seen it yet.

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  2. I think right now a lot of the laws have come from a need that has been shown. And I think it's very important for technologists and very important for ethical technologists to be in direct conversation with Congress because we're at a very sensitive time right now where if technology is over-legislated and over-regulated, then we're going to stifle innovation and just send companies to other countries. And that's not what we want to do. What we want to do is find a balance of being able to protect people and also protect entrepreneurship because data and technology can solve a lot of the world's problems. And that's how I got into this mess in the first place by hoping that that's all it could do.

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  3. Yes. So we work on digital literacy training. We're starting first in schools. So we're teaching teachers and parents how to implement digital literacy education for kids. So that's everything from understanding your data rights to how to behave with empathy online, how to know how to protect yourself, basic cybersecurity protocols, which I think should really be. Part of every computer lesson that kids go through. You shouldn't know how to type without understanding what typing words into a software program means. So that's one side. And then I also co-founded a year and a half ago the digital asset trade association data. We are a 501c6, so a lot being nonprofit. And we help legislators connect with technologists so that they can create common sense legislation in technology.

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  4. And I think that is so incredibly important because executives from big tech are so completely removed from the consequences of how people use their platforms or how people abuse their platforms. And so the idea that you can get away with a small fine as opposed to actually having criminal liability, I think will change the incentive structure quite a lot for people to take data protection very seriously. And it's not saying if you just happen to get hacked, you should go to jail. No. It's saying through negligence, like with Equifax and Facebook, Equifax had over 300 security certificates expire before they were hacked. They didn't implement over 8,500 updates to their software systems.

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  5. There's quite a lot of good legislation that's currently sitting waiting to be considered. Actually, my favorite that I didn't talk about yet is Elizabeth Warren's Law, the corporate executive accountability act, which means that instead of civil fines, if a company through negligence allows Massive data leak or to be hacked, then that will be a criminal penalty. So people like Mark Zuckerberg and Cheryl Sandlerberg would be in jail by now.

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  6. There should be checks and balances. The SEC will, FEC will never catch it, will never catch all of it, really. I mean, right now they don't even have enough people to have a quorum. That's another issue. So what do you think the...

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  7. Don't have a place on Facebook and doesn't have a place anywhere where you can pay to put that in front of people. We need to find ways to do that. It's not just going to be a law. It's going to be a technology solution, to be honest. But with that amount of money and that amount of data scientists and engineers, it should be easier for Facebook to fix. I just don't have any proof that they're trying to fix it. And then there needs to be. Relationships between our actual laws, not just data protection laws, but electoral laws and what is allowed in the Facebook platform. As I said, you shouldn't be able to log in from another country and purchase in another currency political ads in America when it's illegal for you to do so. There should be checks and balances.

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  8. So there's a number of things. Number one in terms of my viewpoint is the way that they handle data. Right now, there is no transparency into what you're actually agreeing to by using Facebook. All of the different places they're collecting data from you, how they're using it, and if there is any way for people to have knowledge into that. So the transparency and consent mechanisms need to change completely. Next would be the policing of what is actually published on Facebook. And there's going to be a lot of people who love the right to free speech that are going to be terrified at some of the things I'm going to say, but I'm sorry, incitement of racial hatred and violence is not okay. And we need to find a way to make sure that language and content that is insightful of that.

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  9. So, what would you do? I hear you have Elizabeth Warren. I mean, while Mark is having dinner with, I don't know, Tucker Carlson, it's a joke, but he was. He's snarking about Elizabeth Warren in meetings, not having meetings with her He did put a post ad so it was a little self-aggrandizing and self righteous. So I meet with lots of people, and it's important to talk to people. I was like, listen, Ellen, of social media, you didn't have dinner with Elizabeth Moore, as far as I can tell or that I know about.

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  10. Via Facebook to actually solve these problems, and we're not seeing the results of that, then unfortunately, I think we've given them quite a lot of time to prove that they're making a difference and they haven't proved anything to me. They certainly haven't proven anything to other people I know that have left Facebook. I don't know if you ever have spoken to Yale Eisenstad. So after her six months of

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  11. Good and the bad thing about cutting edge technology is that it moves a lot faster than the law does. That's a good thing when technology is doing things that better humanity. It's a really bad thing when it goes completely unchecked for so many years that now there are all these problems that we never foresaw. And I'm not going to say that all of this is Facebook's fault. A lot of these were problems that nobody predicted could have possibly happened. But the fact is we have identified a lot of problems right now. And if the proper investment is not happening,

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  12. And the hatred and the violence that came out of the last election is sure to be exponentially worse this time because there aren't really any tools to stop that from happening. And so where I really hope that regulators and legislators are going to concentrate are on solving multiple problems at once. It's not going to be one law. You know, it's not just monopoly legislation that's going to help. It's not just data protection legislation. It's not just further definitions and policing of hate speech and voter suppression. Going to have to be all of those. Unfortunately.

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  13. It can happen again for quite a few reasons. One, I would say that this election is going to be even more contentious than the last one. Someone that's trying to stay in power from all of my former work and research about what goes on in politics around the world, someone trying to stay in power wields as much use of tools as they possibly can, especially the walls. They pull up all the stops. And so any of the tools.

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  14. Buying team in order Relationship, you know. All right. And so, what should happen then? Here you are, a company that's unchecked by any regulatory agency, although they're trying in Europe. And you've testified in front of all these things, what do you imagine is going to happen and what has to happen for it not to happen next as you talk about it, how it can happen again. Explain how it can happen again and then what needs to be done about it

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  15. Well, I actually didn't have that much individual interaction with Facebook. Sometimes they would visit the office in order to show my Digital buying team in order to sell new tools to them show them how to use the new stuff that they had. But in general, I didn't have a day-to-day interaction with Facebook. Some of my friends have in the past. Some of the people that I worked with had their direct relationships with Facebook and it was very much a buyer seller relationship. You know, if we were willing to buy something from them, they were willing to do anything to let us do that.

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  16. Is that enough to stop people from believing in its content? And seeing it anyway. And there are these essential questions. You know, I'm not someone that is going to claim that censorship is 100% the right answer, but there has to be some better policing and management of content because you can be sure if the New York Times or the Washington Post published even a small percentage of what goes through Facebook the entire executive board would be in jail.

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  17. Absolutely nothing. Now, I've spoken to a lot of executives from big news organizations who are livid that one of the biggest publishing platforms in the world is not held liable for what they allow people to publish. Now, we've heard all of Facebook's excuses for why they don't fall under these laws, but I don't really understand how they themselves can continue to purport that when the amount of crimes and violence and death that has come out of that has gone completely unchecked, you know, just if you hold your mouse over an image and you all of a sudden see a tag that it's a political ad or that video or image has been manipulated.

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  18. So, what would be the reason for doing it? They say they're working on all these things. Of course, it's late, it's rather late in the game to having done this. Secondly, they continue down roads of not taking things down, the Nancy Pelosi video and explaining or labeling things, the recent reannouncement of something they were already doing, which was allowing politicians to lie in ads, but then delete any links that are lies, which was sort of confusing on some level. Very confusing. How do you assess how they think of things now?

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  19. An easy investment into some data scientists and data engineers that can start solving this problem with psychologists and experts, it's not a huge investment to stop people from killing each other because they're using your platform.

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  20. Of course. And unfortunately, I've seen Mark Zuckerberg go on television and say that he doesn't have the ability to measure hate speech. Now, this is a huge problem considering hate speech and misinformation on his platforms caused a genocide in Myanmar besides violence and hatred around the world when it goes completely unchecked. I have worked for very many organizations that have been using very basic data in order to measure hate speech. The International Criminal Court has interns doing it. The United Nations many departments do it. Big NGOs do it all the time. Amnesty International certainly helps do that. How is a company that is worth that much money lacking in all abilities to measure hate speech when this is?

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  21. 100% Well, by clamping down, they told everybody you're not allowed to use our data anymore. Have they actually gone to those 40,000 developers and to the millions of companies that the data was then sold on to? Them delete it No. No Not that I know of. I think we'd know if they were doing something like that and kudos to them if they are.

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  22. Basic know your customer anti money laundering identification of individuals who are purchasing political advertising on Facebook. So you have to be an American or an American registered organization with the FEC in order to buy political ads. Now somehow Facebook allowed people with a Russian credit card from a Russian bank to pay in rubles from Russia for political advertising. Now that's something that inherently in the platform should not be allowed, that shouldn't be a loophole. There's an easy technology fix for that. If you're a $500 billion company, that is a quick fix for a very small budget.

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  23. Yeah, I mean, being a little bit more open about the fact that they were not prepared to make the changes that they needed to make to keep people safe. If you think about some of the basic things that they did wrong.

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  24. So you saying Facebook is non existent, they're destroyed democracy, meaning not just with the American election, but that's had repercussions even today, right now we're seeing it in Syria and other places, but also repercussions across the globe. What do you imagine if Facebook had done nothing? What should they have been doing at this time? Understanding their power, or what?

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  25. Of course, and I totally support him in doing that 100%. I actually, in fact, wish that more whistleblowers would come out of companies that have abused data so that we can write this wrong faster than we are right now

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  26. Official title or involvement whatsoever. And there's quite a few things in there that say that I consulted to Julian Assange's legal team. Never happened. I did pro bono work for a human rights law firm that also represented him.

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  27. Yeah, I mean, I think the more information that's out there, the better as long as it's accurate. Unfortunately, the few pages that I've seen of his is not accurate. What's not accurate about it? I've only seen the parts that he wrote about me because people have sent me photos of that.

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  28. Everything's okay Zero enforcement No, because when this came up in 2015 at first, the entire company froze and was terrified about breaking a relationship with Facebook. And so the entire company was very well aware of, we were meant to tread carefully and apparently one of the data sets we had, we weren't supposed to have, so we were going to delete it. It was a very big deal

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  29. Everything's okay. No enforcement of their rules. Zero enforcement. Zero enforcement. And was that known within Cambridge Island? They're not going to do anything. We can just plunder this data as much as we want

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  30. Of Cambridge on their actual commercial relationship with Facebook, the email ends with the chief policy officer of Facebook. Signing off basically thinking Dr. Alex Taylor and signing her name Ali instead of Allison. As you know, a show of friendlyness to say, you know, oh, this is all cleared up

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  31. No, because I don't think an email from a data scientist that is using this data for commercial purposes and political purposes, that an email saying, yes, we deleted everything. Is a legitimate interaction.

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  32. Yeah, so when I first saw the Facebook story breaking the news, I thought, huh. I have an email where my chief data scientist promises Facebook that he deleted this data. In January 2016. So they still had it Wonder what else

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  33. Mostly commercial, but some political as well for candidates that I believed in And I believed that I was actually going to have an opportunity to use these tools for what they should be used for. All right.

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  34. Still dining out on the Trump victory for a long time It continued to become more and more offensive given that I was living in Mexico and working with my friends there and developing great relationships with companies and the government. And I was really excited about the work that I was doing.

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  35. At the company to make more ethical decisions, I'd gotten in a fight with him over my office registering to work in elections when he actually wanted to put it through a commercial company and hide the fact that we were doing political work. He wanted our data scientists to be the people making decisions about data compliance instead of lawyers. Etc and so forth, and that built up to the point where I finally told him to go fuck himself in a meeting and left. And that was your last

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  36. And that it would be a perfect opportunity for him to test his messaging and find his audience. So I just never thought that he was actually going to win. And it took a long time to kind of process that had happened.

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  37. I suppose I did But, well, I guess I suppose I didn't. I was shocked that Donald Trump had actually won because I was told the entire time that he wasn't ever going to win and that this was all a commercial exercise. So the idea that

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  38. At the time, I wasn't in a place to be able to quit my job, unfortunately. I wish I could have been. And so I decided to go open a new office where I wouldn't have to work with Alexander or with anyone that had worked on the Trump campaign. And I could start My own business within their umbrella. So I actually still had financial support from them, even though it was quite small. And just get away from all of that.

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  39. We did this. And when they had shown us that debrief, there was a huge confrontation between me and some other people in the New York office that were supposed to be doing commercial work and the people who had just undertaken the Trump campaign and super PAC work of how are we supposed to use any of this? All of this material is so offensive. We don't actually understand how to translate this. If you guys just showed us impact numbers, people that went to the polls, okay, great, but everything you've just shown us is kind of horrific. There's no way that anybody running a company is going to actually. Buy this. This doesn't make any sense whatsoever. So after. Spending quite a while being more than offended and trying to figure out what to do, I actually moved to Mexico.

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  40. So we spent quite. Yeah, we spent about, I don't know, we only had a couple days after that to kind of digest the information and to start dealing with what was going to happen going forward. We were supposed to completely stop all political work altogether and translate our Trump victory into a commercial enterprise. So, somehow we are supposed to explain Trump in a way that would allow people to sell toothpaste in cars

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  41. I'm of the belief they're architected that way. It's a gun. It's a gun. It's a gun. It's a gun. It's a gun. And everyone's surprised that it shoots a bullet. Pretend it's not a gun, but it's a gun. Nobody should be.

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  42. And shame that I could have been there throughout that entire process and not known. And kind of, I don't know, I suppose very confused that this was all done targeting people using data, and they had no idea why they were seeing this misinformation on their newsfeed, this misinformation came onto their newsfeed because they were shown to be persuadable. They were shown to probably be neurotic and easily motivated by emotional fear-based messaging. That's above and beyond a normal political campaign and what they would do.

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  43. And so they presented to us everything that was done in the campaign. And then in DC, David Bossi, our friend from Citizens United, was running the defeat crooked Hillary Super PAC, which thank God the Federal Elections Commission did not allow that to be the actual name. But they tried to register it. It was called the Make America No. 1 Super Pack. And they ran the defeat Crooked Hillary campaign. Which was 100% negative. It was all negative campaigning, nothing else. And some of the content from the campaign and the super pac.

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  44. Well, a month afterwards, we did an official debrief. It was two whole days of them actually showing us here's the full methodology of what we did, the research we did, how we collected data, how we built the database, how we deployed it. This is all of the briefings that we would give on a daily and weekly basis. Here's how it was used to plan everything from where Trump was going to do speeches and rallies to how we were going to communicate with people on social media to door knocking. the whole shebang, right?

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  45. I think Cambridge took advantage of the system as it was, just like any of the other developers on Facebook, but then used that data in order to take advantage of Facebook tools that Unfortunately, so massive discord within the United States and in other countries. It wasn't just Cambridge. There were other organizations involved. But I was there a month after the election when we got shown two days of what they did. the campaign and in the super pack. And a lot of the content that I saw was absolutely horrific.

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  46. It would be very convenient for Mark to say that. Of course, that there is one rogue actor. Unfortunately, it was Facebook's negligent policies that allowed anybody to take advantage of this data. And unfortunately, that was not the only weakness of Facebook. And most of the weaknesses that were shown through this scandal and through the continued proliferation of this conversation in the news, I think are putting pressure on companies, not just Facebook, but anybody else who has been lax about their data protection policies to realize that this isn't going to go away. People are not going to stop caring that they've been exploited and manipulated and that until these problems are fixed, we're not going to give up on it.

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  47. To use it. And so when you started to decide to do something, do you think it's been overblown? Facebook pushed that out a lot, that it's been overblown and that this was a rogue operation by something that they shut down. I was at the meeting where he opened it up to third parties, and I remember thinking this is going to be a problem because I knew some of the third parties. I was like, they don't seem very, they seem somewhat sketchy. Some of them are going to go out of business. What happens to data?

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  48. It's a bad example. I think it's a bad example because most advertisers around the world that probably have used the same data set and might even still be using this data set. They are probably not using divisive rhetoric. In order to run their campaign. So if they're selling cars, they're selling cars. They're probably not going to create incitement of racial hatred or violence while undertaking their communications campaign. So although data might be abused in some ways, it doesn't actually open up to a litany of other offenses, which I think Cambridge Analytica was.

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  49. Right. And so this API allowed at least 40,000 developers to have access to, if they had the reach, to all of the personal data of everybody on Facebook. And Cambridge Analytica was working with a developer that made one of these apps. And this app had just enough money put behind it that they were able to have over 30,000 people engage with that application and therefore had the data of probably most people on Facebook that were relevant to Cambridge at the time.

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  50. Exactly, a third party developer that had paid Facebook for the opportunity to develop, you would get access to the individuals that then use that app, but also all of their friends. And there's no legal construct in the world that allows one adult to consent on behalf of another able bodied adult.

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