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Brooke Shields

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first: 2024-02-19
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“And I don't mind it because isn't it amazing how much I still love what I do, like to be able to come through all this and not be so angry and jaded. Like, I love being on a set. I'm going to Phuquette for seven weeks. Like, I have to do another Netflix rom-com. And it's like, I'm like a little kid. To me, I didn't lose. That was not stripped of me. It never will be. And I'm proud of that.”
2024-02-19 · On with Kara Swisher · Brooke Shields on Surviving Hollywood · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Listen Yourself more Approve of yourself More don't look outside for other people's approval because They can't give it to you, and they don't want to.”
2024-02-19 · On with Kara Swisher · Brooke Shields on Surviving Hollywood · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Oh wow, the world can be scary. I better take care of myself. And she, it was a different conversation. And it's a continuing conversation to try to really say to them. Expectations from them, from boys And that to me was like a thousand steps back. Well, I'm going to be expected to do this if I do this. I'm just thinking, no, no one gets to expect anything from you or your body. And I'm, look at me, look at what was expected of me. And I fought through it and shut down and compartmentalized. And, you know, that's not a way to live either, you know? There was just, it worries me for them. I mean, I'm hoping for the best, but it does worry me that they don't, they don't fully get it.”
2024-02-19 · On with Kara Swisher · Brooke Shields on Surviving Hollywood · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“And she was upset about anything bad happening to her mommy. And that I understand. I mean, I get it. What's terrifying to me is that they think That they have control of it because they dictate their TikToks and their social media and all that. And their argument is, but it's on my terms and I'm doing it. But they don't seem to understand how it's feeding the monster. You know, on the one hand, they're all so righteous about, you know, my body, my choice, yes, I agree with that wholeheartedly. They think they're being feminists. They think that because they're controlling their image or they think they are that somehow they're impervious to all of what's really happening and what hasn't changed. I thought that the effect that the film would have on them, I thought it was going to be different from my younger girl. I thought she would sort of take this and say,”
2024-02-19 · On with Kara Swisher · Brooke Shields on Surviving Hollywood · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“I don't think they could. I mean, my daughter's sort of. Talk about that in the film. I mean, you couldn't make those movies now.”
2024-02-19 · On with Kara Swisher · Brooke Shields on Surviving Hollywood · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“I was totally aware of it. My career was in such a bad place, and I was so embarrassed. I was just embarrassed by who I was as an actress, all the while having extreme fame. And the two did not make, they did not meet and they were, it was demoralizing and devastating for me. And all I wanted. Was to work, and I had to work for money. I mean, I needed money, but I also, it was where I was the freest and happiest. By the time this moment in my life happened, I was vulnerable, I was weak, Hungry for validation, attention, not really as much attention because I had enough attention. Possible creative opportunity.”
2024-02-19 · On with Kara Swisher · Brooke Shields on Surviving Hollywood · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“The actual issue of it would have been, I would have been victim shamed, I would have been, why did you go up to the room? Why did you?”
2024-02-19 · On with Kara Swisher · Brooke Shields on Surviving Hollywood · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“I think it's a common. I think especially where assault is, I just interviewed Dr. Nicole Badera, who is a sociologist who studies the systematic abuse and sexual violence. The myriad of different ways that it shows itself. And she talked about this. I did not know that my reaction was so common, but she sort of broke it down for me. And one of the things that we discussed is that it is so rare that there are ramifications for the abuser and the perpetrator. And we've seen over time, now it's slightly different with the Me Too and with en masse women kind of that are able to be bonded together and fight X or this person or that person. But in that era and where I was in my career, it would have been labeled a desperate plea and cry for fame and for notoriety.”
2024-02-19 · On with Kara Swisher · Brooke Shields on Surviving Hollywood · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“I wanted to erase the whole thing from my mind and body and just keep on the path that I was on. The system had never once. Come to help me. So I just had to get stronger on my own.”
2024-02-19 · On with Kara Swisher · Brooke Shields on Surviving Hollywood · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“But I mean, it was so insulting to me. And I've been desperately trying to find that first chapter that I actually penned myself. But that was just, that was such a moment where it's so interesting. That was so much more insulting to me Any of the other shit people wrote about me.”
2024-02-19 · On with Kara Swisher · Brooke Shields on Surviving Hollywood · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Well, I also wanted to, yes, prove, but that's also a bit ego-based. Like who gives a shit really? But what I wanted was I wanted my own time. I wanted my own. Thoughts and I wanted to sort of stop the noise and I wanted to be normal. You know, I wanted, I didn't want Hollywood friends, you know, I wanted real people and I wanted diverse people. I wanted people from different lifestyles and thought processes. And, you know, and I think that I just, I knew there was more, you know. Entertainment is a very sort of incestuous and it's small. It's very narrow, you know, and it's predicated on very sort of pathetic things.”
2024-02-19 · On with Kara Swisher · Brooke Shields on Surviving Hollywood · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Just the pretty one, and I kind of wanted to sort of say all of you, you know, yeah, you think this, well, guess what? Now I'm going to challenge you. I always knew that there was so much more in me”
2024-02-19 · On with Kara Swisher · Brooke Shields on Surviving Hollywood · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“I am more than just what you see on the outside. And no one has been interested in anything I have to say or my opinion. And I have been put into this pretty category. That's something I have nothing to do with. I wanted to prove to myself that I could be more, that I was more. My brain was atrophying, you know, it was exhausted. And I didn't want to leave my mother. I was desperate my first semester. I was so homesick. It was gut wrenching. Thought, okay, I can commute. Why don't I just live at home? Plus. If I wasn't at home, who was going to take care of her? You know, so there was that piece. And then. I just, I wanted that feather in my cap.”
2024-02-19 · On with Kara Swisher · Brooke Shields on Surviving Hollywood · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Yeah, they were four or five months at a time of predictability. And I knew that there were other babysitters to watch her.”
2024-02-19 · On with Kara Swisher · Brooke Shields on Surviving Hollywood · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“I was a baby. You know, so did she push me into that? I mean, these movies that I did, they were the safest I ever felt. Had a whole team of people that needed to keep her alive to keep me alive. Sheets and rules and regulations and time frames, and it was so safe. You know, just living with an alcoholic, you don't know one minute to the next.”
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“But me is a little 13 year old girl, I was so proud and happy. That stuff is the stuff that is so sad to me about it that.”
2024-02-19 · On with Kara Swisher · Brooke Shields on Surviving Hollywood · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“First re And the interesting thing about that when I look back is when she said, I'll go, but I'm going for you, not me. I thought that was the best news in the world. I thought, yes, you've done it. You've saved your mother. And she loved you so much and you're going to make the difference. Well, you talk to any child of an alcoholic or anybody. It's a kiss of death, you know”
2024-02-19 · On with Kara Swisher · Brooke Shields on Surviving Hollywood · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“I think the biggest situation that she put me in that was difficult to handle was. Drinking I mean, that was such a pervasive reality in our whole lives together. That to me was the most damaging aspect of my life. It made everything else pale in comparison. It's as if you couldn't really shock me. Or, you know, that wasn't, it just wasn't as important to me as her sober and her sobriety was so her moments of sobriety were few and far between, you know.”
2024-02-19 · On with Kara Swisher · Brooke Shields on Surviving Hollywood · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“All of it was play acting, or this is not my real life. This is not I have a dog, I have friends, I had a horse. We were going to go to this Italian restaurant for dinner. So there were all these sort of things that were going on in my mind that it's why every time the director called cut, I would stick my tongue out or make a funny face because I wanted the world to know that that's not who I was, that I had a real life.”
2024-02-19 · On with Kara Swisher · Brooke Shields on Surviving Hollywood · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“And you're constantly aware, you're vigilant. You can read a room. And it's so interesting is if you look, I mean, obviously people are going to, look at my face. Maybe you don't have to know me. Maybe you do. There is so much going on because when they cut to me You can see my little baby 12 year old brain. Making sure my mom's okay Trying to focus and listening to this person, planning my answer. Thinking about how I can't wait to go get fried chicken. It was like whatever the thing was, my version of self-protection or survival was to constantly affirm that what I was in was not my real life.”
2024-02-19 · On with Kara Swisher · Brooke Shields on Surviving Hollywood · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“I don't know where I got that kind of poise from. I don't know where I got perspective. I really don't. Again, nothing was more important than keeping my mother alive.”
2024-02-19 · On with Kara Swisher · Brooke Shields on Surviving Hollywood · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“And you're kind of going, what do you do with that? You can't do it. You didn't do anything to get to look like that. You've done something that you're there for, which is a production of something or something. And then that's all that they can focus on. And you think, wow, when am I going to meet some smart people?”
2024-02-19 · On with Kara Swisher · Brooke Shields on Surviving Hollywood · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Maybe that's why they chose me. I don't, I mean, who the hell knows? I happen to have looked that way, but it was just so, and I never have been the kind of person. Like, I can't catch a break, but I do remember thinking, are you kidding me? And it's not going to end. It's never going to end. And I remember saying to myself, don't think that this is ever going to end. This is going to be, controversy is going to follow you. You've been labeled that person and we'll probably never escape it.”
2024-02-19 · On with Kara Swisher · Brooke Shields on Surviving Hollywood · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Reaction by the fact that there was, I was like, that I'm not wearing underwear, like you're going to reduce this thing to not wearing underwear. Okay”
2024-02-19 · On with Kara Swisher · Brooke Shields on Surviving Hollywood · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“But you know what? Again, the caliber of people, you've got Avadon. So it's sort of, I didn't, I was so proud of those commercials. I wanted every”
2024-02-19 · On with Kara Swisher · Brooke Shields on Surviving Hollywood · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“It was actually a rhetorical question. Do you want to know what comes between me and my Calvin's? Nothing. And I use that phrase multiple times in my life. I had a doll named Blabby and I had a dog named Clipper. And I was saying, nothing comes between, you know what? Nothing comes between me and my dog. Right.”
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“I think they're as brilliant now as they were then. I think they were, you know, it shocked me that they were pulled. Again, it's sort of puritanical America. It's like there's such a double standard. But it was such a feather in my cap to be able to do those commercials well To memorize a monologue that was a minute long. Not easy to do while doing choreography. So I I went into again, maybe compartmentalized or whatever that is, but again, there was zero discomfort. Now, I look at the commercials now and I have watched them many times. I understand the way it panned up and the way it.”
2024-02-19 · On with Kara Swisher · Brooke Shields on Surviving Hollywood · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Now, I can't even listen to my voice, and Zephyr Elliot would agree. I still don't know if it, I don't think I'm that good in it. I just don't think I'm that good. I think I was genuinely good in Pretty Baby. And I feel that There was actual talent, and these men In particular, Didn't nurture it, didn't And they could have looked better. Zephyri could have gotten an Academy Award out of me. You know, I mean, I think that that's, and that's. Very vapid”
2024-02-19 · On with Kara Swisher · Brooke Shields on Surviving Hollywood · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“I think he could have taught me more. Shepherded me more in my talent. I think he could have brought more out. I think he could have directed me instead of just make fun of my voice. And like I think I, That director in particular with that film. That film was a more nuanced. It was a darker, deeper story. Blow Lagoon They weren't pretending to be any”
2024-02-19 · On with Kara Swisher · Brooke Shields on Surviving Hollywood · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“And as a vehicle, and to me, it was maybe I didn't know it exactly then, but it was a missed opportunity. I mean, you know, I didn't have to do the nude scenes in Blue Lagoon or in Endless Love, but I had a body double, like all the swimming stuff when you see the butt and all that, not me. I was always covered. My hair was taped down to my body. And so an endless love, all the close-ups and all the body stuff, if you kind of really dissect it, you don't really ever see. That was my mom. And I think probably Franco Zaparelli was disgruntled by that.”
2024-02-19 · On with Kara Swisher · Brooke Shields on Surviving Hollywood · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“The vehicle and the beauty. Look at the beauty. And it was just sort of like, really? Like that's it? Like that's what you're going to go for when I had seen Romeo and Juliet. And, you know, and I was a fan and then to be able to.”
2024-02-19 · On with Kara Swisher · Brooke Shields on Surviving Hollywood · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Well, nothing shocks me about that. I'm sure he told the studio one thing, told the kids another, and then, you know, wanted to be an artist, or as an artist, I don't take that away, got arrest him. But I was uncomfortable because I was older, right? So I was 16 at this point. I was uncomfortable with the way he spoke to me, the way he handled me there was nothing paternal. There was nothing kind. It was all making fun of my voice and I was never going to be good enough. And he was fawning over the boy and I was just sort of like the workhorse vehicle.”
2024-02-19 · On with Kara Swisher · Brooke Shields on Surviving Hollywood · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“I get it. I guess I just felt like it was a double standard. I mean, I don't know. I felt like it was a true story. It was beautiful. And I felt protective of it. And the uproar was just so insulting and difficult for me to.”
2024-02-19 · On with Kara Swisher · Brooke Shields on Surviving Hollywood · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“I have only watched Pretty Baby, and I've watched it multiple times. And it's why I wrote my thesis on it. Just think it's Probably are possibly the only real true. Beautiful film I've ever been in. It's the only piece of art. I think that I've gotten to experience in my film career. So many different levels. And when I was older and writing about it, I was able to sort of really dissect, dissect it thematically, dissect it cinematically. And I just gained even more of an appreciation for it because The hours were so long. It was an arduous, hot. Shoot. And then on top of it the uproar and the vitriol and the attack was so shocking and hurtful because nobody was talking about. They were talking about the implications and the societal impact, but they weren't talking about how beautiful the film was. Right. Well.”
2024-02-19 · On with Kara Swisher · Brooke Shields on Surviving Hollywood · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“They wanted us to fall in And they clearly just didn't know me. I mean, I've always been pretty stubborn, but. More you push me into anything, the more I resist. And I did not listen. I understand being sort of dictated to on camera. But with regards to my innermost feelings. Somehow I was able to protect those.”
2024-02-19 · On with Kara Swisher · Brooke Shields on Surviving Hollywood · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“How pathetic is that? First of all, how about directing and how about acting? So that to me is so interesting and divisive. That was their perspective. And how, I don't know, it just made me lose so much respect”
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“Right. Okay, but the weird thing, which I actually did not know until I saw the documentary That was their focus. That's what they wanted. They wanted to actually capture on film my awakening.”
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“No, and you're not thinking thematically. Know, you're not thinking of the effect it will have on people in that way. I mean, and again, this is not just a mechanism, exonerate myself in any way. I was surrounded by those movies.”
2024-02-19 · On with Kara Swisher · Brooke Shields on Surviving Hollywood · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“I know her today. She's a lovely, brilliant actress. But no one had a problem with working an 11-year-old 12, 14-hour days. With shoes that made her feet bleed. Now, obviously, the public would not know that. And I understand that, but it just was so fascinating to me that the things that people were objecting to were, they phased me the least because they were all Fake. Do you know what I mean?”
2024-02-19 · On with Kara Swisher · Brooke Shields on Surviving Hollywood · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“I was shocked by it. I have to say, I was shocked by that. I'm sure we'll get to Calvin Klein. I was shocked by that. Now, maybe I was shocked because I was naive or stupid or I don't know. But there was no level of true deep discomfort and sense of abuse during the filming. I mean, I find it fascinating that nobody seemed to have a problem with Susan really slapping me across the face in real life. 12 times or working at an 11 year old.”
2024-02-19 · On with Kara Swisher · Brooke Shields on Surviving Hollywood · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Absolutely because it shaped me. I mean, I think that that was the first real, true shaping mechanism in my life was navigating alcoholism. And you used the word compartmentalized before. And the thing that's so interesting is I also had a very traditional father. And from a very early age, I would put in my top ciders, my lacoste shirt, and my jeans, and I would be that girl at my dad's house. No, that was dinner at six and kids ate in the kitchen and the parents ate in the dining room. And, you know, WASPY wealthy life. And then I had my mom, small apartment, Manhattan, Bohemian, all artist friends, all different walks of life. And so I was playing a different role in that world. So I think by the time Pretty Baby happened, it was just yet another persona to jump into.”
2024-02-19 · On with Kara Swisher · Brooke Shields on Surviving Hollywood · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Well, keeping her alive. And again, this wasn't, it wasn't just a tool in the film. I grew up in the New York City in a very eclectic bohemian, diverse way in Manhattan. You know, she was taking me to see Rocky Horror Picture Show in gay bars with my friends and experience it and they all like all the performers loved me and were sweet and let me play with their makeup. And, you know, and then I would go home and go to school the next day. So there was this, I wasn't shocked. I think shocked me. And we weren't Puritan. My mom was Catholic. She was a paradox. I mean, she, you know, constantly do things were always happening, but she talked about everything. We talked about everything. And again”
2024-02-19 · On with Kara Swisher · Brooke Shields on Surviving Hollywood · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“I mean, maybe it's disassociation. It's very possible. I think that the interesting thing about filmmaking is that it's so far from reality when you're doing any of it, that it's not, it did not affect me the way the film itself affected people. It was a job. I mean, it was, I didn't feel it's just so strange because I keep getting asked this question and I think the desire is for me to say how miserable I was and how uncomfortable I was and how I knew something was wrong. It just wasn't the case. I mean, I think my focus was so laserly focused on My mother making her happy.”
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