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Bruce Miller

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“That's helpful. Although Well, I always, you know, I feel like you're always looking at what people liked, not what people like. It's always the past, you know. So, you know, I don't know that I'm looking for people to.”
2017-05-10 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · Recode Decode: Behind the scenes of 'The Handmaid's Tale' · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Well, some people like it, some people don't. It's a really interesting. You want to be informed. I spent a lot of time looking at the data of our site and what people are doing. That's helpful. Although I don't know, maybe it's not. Maybe I should just go with my instinct”
2017-05-10 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · Recode Decode: Behind the scenes of 'The Handmaid's Tale' · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“I'd be interested to know if there was something that seemed very strange, if there was an anomaly, but I don't know enough about when people usually turn off, you know, when do people turn off the Golden Girls reruns or anything else? So since I don't have any context, my context is really writing and a show and a story. And it seems like just at every turn when something else really interesting comes along that I could devote my life to studying the important thing is to just recommit yourself to. Because, you know, I've been doing this for...”
2017-05-10 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · Recode Decode: Behind the scenes of 'The Handmaid's Tale' · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Right, exactly. I'll have to argue for it. What's interesting is they do give more free. I do think they're more like, let's see what works. They're very much and a little bit algorithmic what works and stuff like that. Although they're not always right”
2017-05-10 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · Recode Decode: Behind the scenes of 'The Handmaid's Tale' · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Yeah, well. I just think it ends up offering smaller players a role in the industry, which is wonderful. But for me, it's wonderful. It's the thing that's amazing is how much has changed just in the time that I've been doing this. And I don't, you know, I think the generation before me, it didn't change that much. And certainly the few generations before that TV was, you know.”
2017-05-10 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · Recode Decode: Behind the scenes of 'The Handmaid's Tale' · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“No, and we are ready to start doing that. So it would be frustrating. You know, the business model of Hollywood is so elusive to me. And also always seems to be kind of a few clicks behind the times of what people are actually doing and how they're enjoying media and consuming it. I don't know how it should respond because certainly, you know, I cultivate a great ignorance of Hollywood in general.”
2017-05-10 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · Recode Decode: Behind the scenes of 'The Handmaid's Tale' · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“It's funny. It's a show that about objectification of women who doesn't really objectify anybody. I mean, because there's no kind of... Model to it, you can't do it in Gilead. Yeah, I mean, I would like. More to me seems more is more and you want it to be good so more doesn't fall.”
2017-05-10 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · Recode Decode: Behind the scenes of 'The Handmaid's Tale' · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“It just does to do it well. And a lot of the things people are reaching back into the archives to pull out are things that took a very long time and a lot of care. But when you watch it in two days, it doesn't feel like that. So my only concern is that people are expecting high quality a little too quickly Because if you look at the handmade sale, one of the reasons it is beautiful and one of the reasons the stories do work in a subtle way and Wizzy's performance and all those things require a lot of thought and prep. I mean, it just takes time.”
2017-05-10 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · Recode Decode: Behind the scenes of 'The Handmaid's Tale' · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Yeah, I dying to see the new one. So I'm not worried about it. I feel like anything, it's a universal good, you know, putting more interesting things out there for people to see. And I think one of the funniest things is that, you know, you realize how we've been building up this huge catalog of television for how many years, for 60 years. And people have burned through it in a couple of years. I mean, not everything, but certainly people are starting to say what else, what else, what else. And I like that. I mean, I like that people are enjoying serialized storytelling. The only problem is that in order to do it, it actually takes a lot of time, money, thought, and care.”
2017-05-10 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · Recode Decode: Behind the scenes of 'The Handmaid's Tale' · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Yeah, exactly. So do you feel worried about tech as a creator in Hollywood now? Because Hollywood's had this sort of weird relationship with tech as more and more of these companies fund these things. You know, again, Apple just recently did. You know Google's going to get down here at some, they are in YouTube, but not in a more larger sense. They are just starting to both Apple. The richest two companies are starting to really, you see conceive Facebook entering the picture onto the side. They've talked about it, episodic television and things like that. Is that a welcome thing for you? Now you're a creator, so more the merrier, I would assume, but how do you feel about Hollywood right now? I see you wearing an Apple Watch right there. Can you imagine watching the handmade sale on that?”
2017-05-10 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · Recode Decode: Behind the scenes of 'The Handmaid's Tale' · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“It doesn't matter what I intended, it matters what you experience. And so you don't want to get in people's way, especially when a show hasn't been on yet. After that, there's plenty of time to discuss. So I tend to read about social media and listen a lot and also, you know, we've been out doing quite a bit of press and it's fun to hear the questions that you get. And, you know, and I haven't gotten...”
2017-05-10 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · Recode Decode: Behind the scenes of 'The Handmaid's Tale' · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“You know, there are a lot of, I don't know if there's Snapjacks, there's a lot of Instagram pictures here. There's a lot of all the actors in their individual kind of approaches to social media. And I, you know, I'm not super active on, I read a lot on social media, but I do feel like I don't want to get until the show is completely out there. I don't want to get in the way of people experiencing it. You don't want to be mansplaining how someone is supposed to man. You don't want to be like saying, this is how you should react to it because that kind of takes away the whole fun of it. You know, it's like saying I intended it to be funny or I intended it to be serious or I intended to be scary. That is kind of a non-”
2017-05-10 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · Recode Decode: Behind the scenes of 'The Handmaid's Tale' · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“It's actually important for streaming. You think about it. You have visual is much more important. And what about how much do you participate in social media for this? Because I've noticed your trailers are everywhere. You guys are doing a very heavy job using, and what works for you? I don't see a lot of Snapchats on this one, but maybe you are on Snapchat.”
2017-05-10 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · Recode Decode: Behind the scenes of 'The Handmaid's Tale' · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Yeah, just that's and no makeup at all on her. And then the same thing when we started to look for a director, I wanted someone who wanted to hire someone who could really make you feel like you were in this world, even when this world got a little swirly, crazy, absurd, whatever, and Reed is a remarkable director and an excellent cinematographer, although she wasn't that on our show, and really can tell a story visually. And wrote that. I mean, I wrote a lot of it is just storytelling that's visual with no words or even.”
2017-05-10 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · Recode Decode: Behind the scenes of 'The Handmaid's Tale' · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“I know Oh, absolutely. We went into it very much from the beginning, wanting it to be lyrical and elegant and pretty. And a part of that. Was my goal from the beginning that you wanted to be creepy? Well, yeah, but Tableau, you want these iconic images because they're from a book that people have been thinking about for so long, you know, the hats people have been imagining forever. I mean, we had a four-month discussion about the color red for the handmaids cloaks. And so when we started looking for”
2017-05-10 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · Recode Decode: Behind the scenes of 'The Handmaid's Tale' · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Is that a group that we're executives? You don't like to explain anything. Tell me, do certain of the visuals really hit online? Do you guys all think of that? Because I'm thinking of the Alexis Bladell. You know, where she's wearing those white tights and has just been. She had a cliterectomy, correct? I mean, that's what happened. And you know what it is, but you don't say it, but it's a beautiful image, actually, of her in those, like that. Do you use that to get people to watch the show? I mean, because the visual images, I've seen so many beautiful ones online of the hats.”
2017-05-10 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · Recode Decode: Behind the scenes of 'The Handmaid's Tale' · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Funny, and it's not. Well, I would, you know, I definitely, you know, things I didn't expect to land in certain ways have. And one of the big things is people are very, very, very, very well versed in the book and watching the show. And what bumps them is really interesting to me. But mostly I'm finding that from the beginning, I just decided, well, we have a... The audience is going to be smart and they're going to pay attention. And I'll just give them a show for smart pay attentioners. Is that a group that works? Yes, it is. And they have. I mean, they pick up absolutely everything, which is wonderful for me because I feel like I don't have to do any exposition. Don't have to explain.”
2017-05-10 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · Recode Decode: Behind the scenes of 'The Handmaid's Tale' · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Yeah, interesting. The guy who created, I'm planking on his name, Modern Family. He's wonderful. He's very techie. He's quite a nerd. They get on there during modern family and watch what jokes hit and which don't, which is interesting because that's broadcast. Yeah. But it was interesting how he did that. And he said it does affect him. He likes it, it affects him. And they also settles fights with other writers of what's funny and what's not.”
2017-05-10 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · Recode Decode: Behind the scenes of 'The Handmaid's Tale' · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Last summer, right? I just didn't get to it. Yeah, yeah. And I think that that part of it, you really do have to think about the fact that everybody's not going to be watching it at the same time. Right, that's the other thing. Yeah, and there's no community aspect to that.”
2017-05-10 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · Recode Decode: Behind the scenes of 'The Handmaid's Tale' · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“It always is. I mean, it always is. You never want to restrict your audience by something that they've had to do before the show. But hopefully people find the show. I mean, I don't know after it's on Hulu, you know, where does it go after that? Shows have quite a long life these days, which is kind of wonderful. Five seasons from now people could find the show and start watching from the very beginning, which certainly wasn't true when I was watching Stream.”
2017-05-10 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · Recode Decode: Behind the scenes of 'The Handmaid's Tale' · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Zero funds. Zero fund. They have music. Yeah, they do. So when you're thinking about billions for an audience, you do have a limited audience. The people who are subscribed to Hulu, who go and sign up, is that a problem for you? Or blank, the people who have Netflix blank, the people who have Amazon Prime.”
2017-05-10 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · Recode Decode: Behind the scenes of 'The Handmaid's Tale' · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Yeah, that is a good word. And it's perfect. And you feel like you're walking through a painting. But I think that we wanted it to be beautiful, but the whole point of a thriller is that if you can't imagine yourself in that world, and this is a world with weird hats and weird cloaks and weird language, if you can't imagine yourself there, it loses a good chunk of its fearsomeness. So I... We tried very, very hard to make it seem like the real world on every level and in every image and also kind of what you're seeing and the backstory of what you're seeing would make sense to get that thing there. Why are there particular foods in the grocery store? Why are there particular cars in the grocery store? That's right.”
2017-05-10 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · Recode Decode: Behind the scenes of 'The Handmaid's Tale' · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“It was beautiful. It was a remarkably, you know, we've been from the very beginning, I was thoughtful about kind of what I wanted it to look like. And it took me a while to find. Kind of ways to articulate it or examples. I didn't think I was being so revolutionary. I just wanted it to look real. I wanted it to look real and I wanted it to look beautiful because Gilead is beautiful. Our dystopias are usually dusty and full of robots. And so this one is particularly, you know, one of the novelties about it is how gorgeous it is. And also you kind of want to feel like, wow, we would be without all the ritualized rape and terrible misogyny be a nice place to live without all the executions.”
2017-05-10 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · Recode Decode: Behind the scenes of 'The Handmaid's Tale' · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“It's beautiful. It's a beautiful documentary. That's what's interesting. Your show looks great on a phone. I watch one episode on a phone. I watch another on a computer and I watched a third on a television.”
2017-05-10 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · Recode Decode: Behind the scenes of 'The Handmaid's Tale' · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“I don't like pussyfooting around, you know. It's like you don't want to worry about language and you don't want to worry about nudity even if you have no nudity and no bad language. You just want it to be a natural world. And certainly there's not very much, it's not explicit sex. It's very explicit, but it's not nudity. No. Yeah. And so, but I think that you For this show in order to be unblinking about what this world is like, there's a scene in episode three where we show a trial and then the aftermath of the trial for a hanging. Yeah, it's horrible. And once again, as Margaret said, there's nothing in the show that doesn't happen in the world. Right, absolutely. And we took those images right from...”
2017-05-10 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · Recode Decode: Behind the scenes of 'The Handmaid's Tale' · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Yeah, people could, well, that's the thing nowadays we have to make television that works on a 45 inch television and on a phone. So that's a cinematography challenge. Mostly we try to ignore all of those things and just make something beautiful and effective and bring this book. We kept going back to the book and try to bring the book to life because that's what I wanted as a fan of the book. I wanted the book to come to life. So I think that there are a lot of cinematography and technical challenges with that kind of thing. But I think the other thing is, you know, we can use language. We don't have to worry about using bad language. And in this case...”
2017-05-10 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · Recode Decode: Behind the scenes of 'The Handmaid's Tale' · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Yeah, I mean, I was surprised too. I mean, but I'm very happy with where it ended up. I think that, you know, this hadn't been made into a series for a long time for a reason. I mean, it was a little tough to crack. You know, every writer is told never use flashbacks and never use voiceover. And I break every rule. But, you know, you have to find someone who both has the right angle on writing television. I mean, I try to make things very grounded and very realistic. And in this case, that's what makes them scary.”
2017-05-10 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · Recode Decode: Behind the scenes of 'The Handmaid's Tale' · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“But interesting in previous years, this kind of show would have gone on HPO. Absolutely. In fact, I wrote Richard Plapron like you're an idiot for not taking it. I can't believe he didn't pay up for this.”
2017-05-10 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · Recode Decode: Behind the scenes of 'The Handmaid's Tale' · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Causes a lot of problems on a TV series. I think I've done it, right? Yeah. And so it's a big train. But I don't feel, I mean, I think there's not a stigma, but there's so many platforms that are coming quickly. I think there's a lot of confusion about what might be. A more or less legitimate one just in terms of distribution. But if a company is willing to put the time, effort and money into a show, and I feel like it's a show that you can do well for that time effort and money, then it really doesn't matter to me where how it's going to get into people's lives”
2017-05-10 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · Recode Decode: Behind the scenes of 'The Handmaid's Tale' · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Do most people like me? I hope people like me. No, no You know, I don't think so. I mean, I think as long as the process runs in a logical fashion, a lot of the producing part of what I do as opposed to the writing and you just have to, there are decisions that you have to make well ahead of time that don't seem like things you have to make, decisions you have to make well ahead of time. So you have to go to people who are not used to being pushed to make decisions. Say, I know it seems like six months from now is the time you'd have to make this decision. But if you don't make it now, now is six months from now. Today is the day. And so there's a lot of deadlines where uncertainty”
2017-05-10 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · Recode Decode: Behind the scenes of 'The Handmaid's Tale' · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“And most people like you. How do people feel? Do most people like me? I hope people like me. No, no, I mean, do most people like you think about, do they care if they're making something for Google or Apple? Because Apple's just started to make stuff.”
2017-05-10 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · Recode Decode: Behind the scenes of 'The Handmaid's Tale' · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“I mean, Joseph Fines and people who are taking what are Small roles in terms of screen time, but are hugely important just in the canon of literature and who they were dying to do these roles because it was the commander and the handmaid's tale. So having the book helped, certainly Elizabeth Moss, once you sign up Elizabeth Moss, any worry that it's not going to be good gets slides down a little bit on the scale. And then as we pulled our cast together, we were getting directors in line and Reed Murano, who directed our first three episodes, whereas she wasn't that experienced or that well known her work astonishing is amazing. And I think some of the actors knew her from that. And also, you know, Warren Littlefield is my non-writing executive producer, and my partner on this very close partner on this. And”
2017-05-10 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · Recode Decode: Behind the scenes of 'The Handmaid's Tale' · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Right. And their own story. So one more question in this section, you had a hard time getting actors to do this? It seems like not anymore. It seems like a lot of actors really want to participate in working for internet companies, essentially.”
2017-05-10 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · Recode Decode: Behind the scenes of 'The Handmaid's Tale' · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Well, Yvonne's had a long career. She was on Chuck Forever. She was on Dexter for a very, very memorable year. She's done lots of stuff, but never anything like this. Right, that's what I mean. I just noticed her. I know who she is”
2017-05-10 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · Recode Decode: Behind the scenes of 'The Handmaid's Tale' · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“And just, you know, she's, like everybody else, has brought sidestaunt, Lydia, that you don't see in the book and that you don't see in the other movies, which is the great benefit of television, is you get a long time to build up and get to dig around in these characters. But Yvonne Strahowski, who plays Serena Joy, the wife. It's another terrific actress. Where did she?”
2017-05-10 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · Recode Decode: Behind the scenes of 'The Handmaid's Tale' · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Was I worried? I'm always worried at a new place that too much of my time is going to be spent kind of explaining how the excruciating minutiae of it work and why it should work that way and stuff just always but this was not the case. They have people there who have not only experience at other companies they have experienced at this company going through this process. And so they were completely professional and they knew how things worked and all that kind of stuff. And we had MGM was the studio and they were very helpful. But in the end they left me to my own devices. And Once they started to see dailies with Elizabeth Moss and Dowd and Alexis Bladell and all these people who were just off the charts amazing that they”
2017-05-10 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · Recode Decode: Behind the scenes of 'The Handmaid's Tale' · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“And when they decide not to do it anymore, Were you worried in any way, or it was Hulu and not Netflix? Because there must be a pecking order now among internet companies. And Amazon's all of a sudden coming strong.”
2017-05-10 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · Recode Decode: Behind the scenes of 'The Handmaid's Tale' · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“It had gone to, well, after Showtime originally had the project, and when they decided not to do it anymore, MGM, I think, took it out, and I think there was quite a bidding flurry for people to get it. I don't know who was involved in that, but there were lots of people. So I'm thrilled that it ended up where it ended up. Were you worried?”
2017-05-10 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · Recode Decode: Behind the scenes of 'The Handmaid's Tale' · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Make what you make. Right, make what you make. But the other side of that coin, and this is just human nature, is when you're making a show on a network that has 26 shows, you get a little, you get a different kind of attention than you do here when they're making two shows. And so they do pay, I mean, each show is a big investment for Hulu and a big creative investment. So they certainly are very involved. They certainly haven't been meddlesome, but I think that's personality and personality by personality. And the show from the very beginning kind of blew all of us away. We were very happy with it from the very first time we saw Dailies. And so I think that helps. And also you have a book that you're standing on a bit of a foundation. You don't have to, it isn't all just me waving my arms. But it seems like a lot of the really...”
2017-05-10 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · Recode Decode: Behind the scenes of 'The Handmaid's Tale' · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“It is. I mean, I think that there's two sides to the coin. One side is that they have made a decision to let people like me be the guiding force behind the shows because they think that that way the show comes out to be more of what they need. With that with an engineer?”
2017-05-10 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · Recode Decode: Behind the scenes of 'The Handmaid's Tale' · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Our narrative drive Right, that's interesting. So, are the executives at these places more at Hulu, for example, more involved? Maybe they don't know anything. So they're like, ah, do whatever you want. It seems like a lot of them have been like that, although they're getting more professionalized for sure. But initially, a lot of them didn't meddlesome. And I talk to, it's like, oh, they don't really bother me, which is a welcome thing from notes all the time and everything else.”
2017-05-10 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · Recode Decode: Behind the scenes of 'The Handmaid's Tale' · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Yeah, because you don't quote need it. And there's two things, how you define what you need is really the biggest decision that I, as a showrunner, make. And I try very hard to kind of say what you think we need is not necessarily what we need. It depends what you're trying to get out the other end. And in our case, there's often the narrative drive for our episodes is... Offred is trying to stay alive. That's our narrative drive. And so you can do a lot of different things within that world if you're allowed the freedom of not having to stay on a path that's built by plot. It can be built by a character arc or built ideally by decisions that offered as making along the way that we, along with her, are just complete. want them to be correct decisions but boy we're as blind as she is right”
2017-05-10 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · Recode Decode: Behind the scenes of 'The Handmaid's Tale' · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Which is interesting now that I didn't realize that because you really do show a lot of visuals are critically important to this. The way they move, the way they put on these particular cloaks, I guess, and hats, absolutely.”
2017-05-10 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · Recode Decode: Behind the scenes of 'The Handmaid's Tale' · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“That is offered going through the house and offered going through her wife. And none of those things are there by accident. There's always, we don't, you know, we're not trying to just indulge the beauty, what we're trying to do is make sure that you see every single part of her story in the entire story. Which is interesting.”
2017-05-10 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · Recode Decode: Behind the scenes of 'The Handmaid's Tale' · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Yeah, it allows me to kind of push harder and fuss harder. And then you can push the actors quite a bit more because... You aren't saying this scene has to be 90 seconds long or the scene has to be 15 seconds long. They're going to be as long as the performance takes.”
2017-05-10 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · Recode Decode: Behind the scenes of 'The Handmaid's Tale' · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Surprise the audience in ways that I don't think was quite as possible when you're, I mean, people don't generally know, you know, a show on a network is the time limit is quite prescribed, you know, down to the second. You're going to turn it in and it's going to be 43 minutes, 22 seconds long. That's it. So here, I don't have that. So that means that I can extend scenes out and there's a lot of pacing and our show, you know, we took our time with visuals and all of those kind of things. But also, I think you can fool people into thinking not knowing which of the storylines is going to end up being the most important at the end of the episode. And for me, I like to write that way. I like to write, you know, I don't want to be able to kind of track the story from A to B to C to D. It doesn't feel as real.”
2017-05-10 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · Recode Decode: Behind the scenes of 'The Handmaid's Tale' · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Well, I know that my daughter, who's twelve, I have older brothers, but she has older brothers, but she consumes so much media in so much narrative that she knows exactly what's going to happen. You know, A happens and B happens and C happens. And so part of that in television is because you know about when it's going to end. And so you have this internal clock. It's the same way I think when you read a book, we're so used to kind of figuring out the story just based on how much book is left when you read on a Kindle if you don't really pay attention to that. It's kind of unsettling. You don't know where you're a little untethered. And so not having a very specific running time allows me to”
2017-05-10 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · Recode Decode: Behind the scenes of 'The Handmaid's Tale' · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“On the And stuff like that. Yeah, it seems like they're trying to find something that's going to help kind of define their network. And they certainly from the beginning were spectacularly supportive even when I wanted to push quite far. I mean, end of the third episode, that was...”
2017-05-10 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · Recode Decode: Behind the scenes of 'The Handmaid's Tale' · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Yes, interesting. Very, very, very young. Zoe, she was trouble. She was great. She was always trouble. Well, the way that I think about it, the great advantage is that we're not shooting for an enormous audience. So not that that means we're not going to get it, but it allows us to be as a writer allows me to be more specific and just kind of tell this story and not try to tell this story to people who don't want to. Listen to this story, but tell it to the people who are going to seek it out. So I think that that's just better kind of in general, and I think that's one of the things that's made this such a golden age of television is that there's more writers being able to tell more different kinds of stories.”
2017-05-10 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · Recode Decode: Behind the scenes of 'The Handmaid's Tale' · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“They really do. Yeah, you don't need that cliffhanger, although there's lots of it's okay if you have it. Interesting, Elizabeth Moss was on that show. Yes, interesting, very, very, very young. Zoe, she was trouble. She was great. She was always trouble. So talk a little bit about making something for Hulu versus a network. You've done all the different things, work for cable network. Is it a different? Well, you say it's the same for a writer, but what's it like now when you're thinking about your career?”
2017-05-10 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · Recode Decode: Behind the scenes of 'The Handmaid's Tale' · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT