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Bruno Maçães

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“Oh no, but I would like to try, I don't plan to write 15 versions of this book. I'm going to write on technology. I'm going to write on America. I'm going to write on the future of Europe. I want to potentially try to write one or two novels. That's the plan. Again, I'm not sure it's going to work, but that's the plan. And the more pressure I have, so the more I talk about it, the more pressure I have, the better.”
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“I'm trying to become a full time writer and a very productive one. I started late, but I'd like to, in the next 15 years, let us say, to write 15 books. Now, whether this is going to work out, you never know, something could come along. But that is sort of the default position right now.”
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“Twitter actually plays a role now, and people that I trust recommend a book I usually follow through. I read less. I reread a lot these days. Go back to books that I liked and try to understand them better. And then keep an eye on the things coming out, on the subjects that I'm particularly interested in. So I'm sure I won't miss any book that is about China, where China is going, for example, and then you make a selection. It's pretty easy to do, I think. The great thing about having read a few tens of thousands of books is that, and I'm sure you have this experience, that you get pretty good at identifying a book that you think is worthwhile so that you stop at page 10 and you are absolutely sure you have no regrets about it.”
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“Well, looking at my past experience, I had a job for a few years in Berlin and a very unusual university where I could decide the courses that I would teach. And so I taught Darwin, I taught Copernicus, I taught economics, even though I don't have a PhD in economics. That was wonderful. And I think if universities could do that, I think those three years were the three years I learned the most in my life, just being forced to teach something where you are completely uncomfortable. It's one thing to try to learn something where you're uncomfortable, but think about teaching it. So it's very intense and productive time of my life. And then more recently, having been in government does open some doors, you can have some very interesting conversations with people who are actually in the rooms. That also has been a very formative experience for me, especially.”
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“You try to get a job where it doesn't feel like you're not doing what you're supposed to do if you actually get informed about Russia and China and what is happening all over the world. That's also part of my day job. And then I try to make sure that I have enough hours during the day to do the other things I like, like write and travel and talk to people. I think those two things would help.”
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“I am very optimistic. I mean, the numbers speak for themselves. There's some countries there that are the fastest growing countries in the world. There's an industrial revolution happening in Ethiopia that you've been talking about. And in fact, in terms of geopolitics, there's a lot happening. It may seem that that could pose some risks. But if you start from the presupposition that they have serious political problems, they haven't been solved yet. The fact that there's some movement in the relations between Ethiopia and Eritrea or Somalia or possibly the recognition of Somaliland, all that seems to me positive. It just shows that there's energy there and there's finally an ability, internal ability that doesn't come from the outside to solve some of the problems that go back to colonial times.”
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“In the end, I guess not a little bit like the political changes in some European countries. There is an organized system which is stable and the changes are to some extent rhetorical.”
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“Something like that, or maybe a sort of a critical voice of the US, but it's a critical voice with which you can relate, almost like your alter ego, because it is in so many respects like you, but always looking for the areas where it is not like you. So maybe it plays an interesting role in that respect. But then again, you know, my impression of Canada is that it changes so dramatically from political cycle to political cycle, because with Harper, you had, in fact, an extreme version of an American neoconservative.”
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“About Canada I don't think I understand anything about Canada, Tyler. Canada is one of those countries that I have to confess I find difficult to fit in my play of world history. I don't see what is the role that Canada is playing in transformations we've been talking about. So if some of the listeners can get back to me on that.”
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“No, I was going to say Silicon Valley next. But politics is important because if you don't have that at the center of a society, which is in the end the state, if you don't have that there, you're not going to have it anywhere else. So you need a bit of their in politics. And I would always start with that. Silicon Valley, maybe I don't know enough. In my recent visit, I saw, of course, two or three very exciting companies that are doing stuff that is not done anywhere in the world. So I wouldn't be critical of the value. You don't see, I guess you don't see the same spirit that was there 30 years ago and that created the value itself and lots of people who know how it was 30 years ago tell me this.”
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“Well, the politics is wonderful. For a European, I have to say, you know, almost everyone in Europe would laugh or be shocked when I say this. But in the end, you want a democracy to be rough and dirty and full of nonsense. And as long as there's nonsense on the other side to counter it, and I just see the openness of sort of an open field, American politics, whereas European politics, everything is predetermined, everything is preset. It's already been determined what you should say and how you should say it. And in the end, of course, European commentators and politicians complain about Trump, but then they are following American politics, perhaps spending two or three hours of their days watching American politics and they're not watching German politics. So again, tell me why this is so bad.”
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“To improvise, to be creative, and I even wonder sometimes whether the fact that other areas are closed to human initiative doesn't in fact increase the willingness to do new things in the areas where it is possible. Human effort is diverted to those areas and concentrated in those areas.”
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“I think my impression talking to them and looking around in Beijing, in Beijing, Silicon Valley, is that they are very creative. Don't assume that because society is an authoritarian society of some kind, that that authoritarianism is present everywhere. Their elements of Chinese life where the force of the Chinese state is not present at all. I mean, one obvious one that has been commented recently by critical voices in China is, for example, sexual life. It's not true of every dictatorship that people are left alone to organize their sexual lives as they want, but in China they are. There's no kind of control over that, which has helped the regime in some ways. Even an authoritarian regime has to give people freedom in some areas so that they can have rewarding lives without asking for more. And I think technology is also an area where the state wants people to break rules, to go ahead.”
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“That's what's happening now. They are taking new technological transformations with an appetite that we no longer have in the West, say self-driving cars. I'm pretty sure they will be fully operational in China before they are here or in Europe, in part because the strength of the Chinese state and its ability to go against people who will suffer from these transformations is much higher. Take European countries that are captured by special interests that will make sure these sort of transformations don't come about. We've seen that in Europe with Uber being banned everywhere increasingly. And also there's a certain appetite that comes deeper from the Chinese psyche and has to do with it's our turn. It's our turn to use technology to change the world. And they are entirely in love with that idea and we don't have it anymore.”
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“I think there's a Sichuan restaurant just around the corner when I was coming in. I think that would be my choice. It's certainly the one where I can order almost everything and I'm going to like everything. That doesn't happen with many regional cuisines in China.”
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“Where boilers are becoming very diffuse, where perhaps countries are becoming a bit footless, like multinationals. A country like Russia or like China in some respects doesn't stop at the borders anymore. It has stakes, it has participations in other countries. China has a 20% stake in Djibouti, and it has an 80% stake in the Chinese diaspora. And when you look at a country, it is a combination, a diagram of different stakes all over the world and not an organized national community within borders. This is the world we're heading to, which is world bribe for conflict of all kinds.”
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“That's one of the very good examples of why we live in a world that is heading towards new and dangerous forms of conflict. I think this is a very serious problem. China will not give up on its overseas citizens. They have obligations towards the motherland. On the other hand, we see already a very strong reaction against this in the West, which, by the way, will feed into xenophobic tendencies in the West itself. Very quickly, people will start to assume that every Chinese is working for the Chinese state. I think, by the way, make a parenthesis here, there will see some of the same dynamics in the case of India, perhaps not as acute. India is a democracy and has rule of law. But what I found out in my recent visits to India is that India likes this way of thinking about the diaspora and is trying to apply it to its own diaspora. So it's a world”
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“Well, we have to see about what is happening in Pakistan. If Pakistan is difficult to control, but in some respects, China has really penetrated Pakistan in politics and society and the civil service. Then a number of countries in Central Asia. But perhaps Southeast Asia is countries are less conflict ridden, and so in that sense perhaps easier to control by China. And then, of course, a number of African countries where that is ongoing and becoming very obvious.”
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“I think China will run the politics of a number of countries. Now, the question is, who are the candidates for that? I don't think Australia is top of the list, but I think there will be countries that will be essentially run from Beijing. But by the way, I should say that that's, of course, what happened in the last 70 years with a number of countries that will run from Washington.”
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“No, I think it's almost inevitable that we'll be seen as a success because the structural force of China's rise is so strong. It will in one way or another change the world as we know it. And then I think Xi Jinping has set things up in a way that all those changes are going to be attributed to the Belt and Road, even though we know very well that without the Belt and Road, they would be pretty much the same, perhaps a little less organized. But it is also a public relations and a marketing coup in the sense that the changes that are coming anyway are going to be attributed to his initiative. And I think he's thinking about things in those terms. But there is no way that China is going to disappear or go back to its size and importance of 40 years ago. That sort of question.”
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“To Kazakhstan are in working order simply because the Han have taken control over Hurumqi. And Urumqi feels like a city transforming itself, growing very, very fast. Not at all abandoned by Chinese authorities.”
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“Yes, I talk about that in the book. I talk about the contradiction between what has really become a surveillance state in Xinjiang, and I could see that myself. But it really doesn't matter because if you're a foreigner, you're going to feel the brunt of it as much, and I look, let us say, Turkic vaguely Turkic, so I could certainly be from Central Asia. I guess the Chinese would think that. So I was stopped constantly and interrogated and my papers would be checked so I could see that personally. I think I could look a bit Uyghur. But the problem is how do you build the connectivity that you want to build if you have this problem in Xinjiang? I think the Chinese are approaching it by breaking Chinjiang in separate parts, one in the south where the Uyghur minority would be isolated and controlled and one in the north which is becoming less and less Uyghur and more and more hung. And so in that sense it could be possible because the connections going through Urumqi.”
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“Yes, so obvious. And I think it's one of those cases where people a year ago were saying that China was brilliant because China was the anti-Trump. Trump has corrupted all our thinking about everything. Because you first think about Trump and then you think about whatever you're supposed to be thinking or talking about. And that was one example. And it was very clear to me that China was making lots of mistakes. And now I think everyone agrees on this, even the Chinese authorities, which are openly talking about self-correcting and going in a slightly different path, which if you know the Chinese regime, you know, it's a big deal when this is out there in the open. They made lots of mistakes in terms of pushing too hard, in terms of not understanding the countries they were dealing with, their culture, and really creating problems almost everywhere, from Australia to India to Europe to the US. There isn't a single place where they are not in a worse position now than they were two years ago.”
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“It's difficult to pick one, but maybe the best would be fly to Kashgar in China, in Xinjiang province, and then cross the border to Pakistan and perhaps go down all the way to Lahore and then Delhi. That's, first of all, you will see the Pamir Mountains, you'll see mix of different cultures, Kyrgyz, Kazakh. And I think you will make one of the classical trips, which is to go from China to India by land. Many people have done it by sea, but by land is a little more unique.”
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“Yemeni food, I think, would be the most promising. There's a couple of very good restaurants. There's, of course, Ethiopian food. But I would go to the Yemeni restaurants. Yemeni food I fell in love with.”
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“There's the politics, all the partics that is happening there, all the geopolitics that is happening there. Then there are some extraordinary landscapes, if you can find them. And there's this culture, which is a combination of Africa and the Arab world, was always a place connecting different cultures. And in the end, you know, after two weeks, you start to feel that finally you have a place that forces you to break from your habits. You cannot carry your habits there because there's really no way to go to your local cafe and read a little bit. There's no way to eat the normal food, so it forces you to break with your normal habits, and that's a good thing”
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“It's a very tough place. It is incredibly hard and there's nothing to do. The country is built on volcanic rocks. There's not a tree inside. Everyone is smoking hat and languishing on the streets under the horrible heat. The prices are extraordinarily high. You would pay $500 for a hotel, but you pay $500 for a hotel, not knowing exactly what you're doing there, or whether you're enjoying it. But after a while, you start to see that it is a strange and unique place at the very least.”
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“Vertigo. I think it's a perfect movie. Hitchcock's movie is because they are so ambitious always have mistakes, very obvious. And by the way, he talks about them in, for example, in his interviews with Trufo. He talks openly about the mistakes he made in this or that movie. And I would say Vertigo is the one where by chance or effort, it's very difficult to find a mistake of structure or of script or acting or casting or anything.”
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“Yes. Well, a big theme in each car is the hidden pathologies of modern life, this psychoanalytical repressions and repetitions and obsessions of fixations, which in fact destroy our life. You're caught in a pattern of repetition and you cannot get out of it while life passes you by. I think it's a big topic. So I think, yes, it is a very promising idea to think that Ichog is thinking about the contradiction between liberalism and human nature that they don't quite fit well together.”
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“Again, I think it is more and more highly rated, but I would encourage to rate him even higher. Yes, a brilliant filmmaker.”
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“Literally almost everything, but I will go with the masses and say that the best novel is a bend in the river, and then the three books on India, non-fiction, mixed with fiction, I always keep going back to.”
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“I would say underrated because I think it's never enough to love NIPO. You can't do enough of it. I think people rate him very highly, but if you can rate them a little bit higher, all the better.”
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“No, I don't think so. I think that you can try, and some people are trying. In Poland, in Hungary, but it doesn't have the ability to change the existing order.”
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“Overrated He was essentially someone who lived in the past, who was born in a different world and never quite adapted to the new world.”
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“Of course Olive Tolstoy, all of Dostoevsky, even the smaller 19th century writers more than 20th century, Russia had a certain understanding of modern society and modern life. There was in many cases deeper than the understanding in Europe because they were looking at it from the outside and struggling with it. You see that in all of 19th century Russian literature.”
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“In a way, I think in Europe this is perhaps becoming clear that some people are starting to get attracted to certain Russian way of life. And one of the reasons they are starting to get attracted is those people who don't like the changes that happen in the West in the last 40 years look to Russia and see a country where not only they haven't happened, but they haven't happened because people don't want them to happen. It's not seen as a failure. It's more of a conscious, active decision”
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“Yes, you're absolutely right. That's a very good point. And by the way, Russian women will tell you different things. They will, of course, complain that they are not taken seriously in the workplace, but they will also tell you that they like masculinity of Russian men, which often just takes the form of paying for everything, which is another striking difference between Russia and the West that the man is supposed to pay for literally everything when he goes on a date. This is perhaps one of the areas where you see that Russia has its own political will. There's really no appetite to go in the direction that we in the West feel is obvious and inevitable. There are some, of course, movements about the workplace, but not a lot in terms of changing that dynamic between the sexes. And by the way,”
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“I think it is, of course, a shock for Europeans because the idea that Russia was trying to become like us was always very reassuring, both psychologically but also politically. And I think in some moments, Russia was of incredible help to Europeans. It did defeat Napoleon after all and help reestablish a certain balance in Europe that gave us a century of culture and of economic growth and of technological revolutions. The 19th century in Europe would have been very different and much worse without the Russian armies defeating Napoleon. So that has always been very helpful for us to have that sense of perhaps in the future having Russia join us and now we lost that. And if we understand that Russia is never going to become like us, never going to join us, then suddenly we have a problem there.”
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“You have to change a lot of things. You have to make a lot of people angry. You have to move money from some sectors to other sectors. You have to change the laws. You have to break the power of oligarchs. You have to let small startups have a chance. All this takes a lot of political will, which simply the current president and his people don't have.”
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“Until Putin goes, it will be very difficult to do the reforms that Russia needs. I see them actually becoming more and more focused on energy, trying to expand to other regions, trying to extend their control of energy sources in the Middle East in particular, and also energy connectors, pipelines in Syria. So I don't see Russia being able, I don't even take seriously the statements that occasionally come from the Kremlin saying that they are developing an industrial park or a technology zone. That's not to be taken seriously anymore. But after Putin, who knows?”
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“Well, but your question, Tyler, also shows a little bit of the Obama disposition. You are puzzled why they are not liberal, because you assume that everyone should be liberal. And so what needs to be explained is why they're not liberal. But maybe we can look at this a bit differently. There's no strong reason why Russia should be liberal. And in the absence of the forces that make you go in that direction, it didn't.”
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“No, I'm not sure of that, actually, I think Tocqueville said that the United States and Russia had a lot in common, and I think there's a certain ability that both have to understand the other. I mean, the European Union, I think, does not understand Russia at all. Certainly the United States has trouble understanding the world as a whole, but I don't think...”
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“The underlying flaw with Obama is always the same he really took seriously this idea that history has a direction, that it's going somewhere, to the point where I think at some point he wasn't even trying to change reality, he was trying to get out of the way of reality. And that to me is almost impossible to understand how he could believe in something like that. But if you read that interview he gave to Jeffrey Goldberg of the Atlantic, that comes up on every issue. I think on every issue, it doesn't matter if it's Vietnam or Russia or China. His immediate answer would be, well, history is going in this direction. Let's get out of the way and let it work its wonders.”
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“Absolutely, that certainly, and that when you go to Azerbaijan or Kazakhstan, which is the other example of that, you really have to wonder how the Soviet Union in a short period of time was able to change these cultures so deeply in a way that actually has continued after collapse of the Soviet Union. It shows without making value judgments about whether there was a good or a bad thing, but it shows the ability of the Russian state to penetrate life very, very deeply and to organize it.”
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“While Russia has the most impressive thing about Russia is in fact something that you might not think at first, the power of organization. I think we have this image of Russia as a failed state in many respects. But in order to keep that empire, in order to keep it together throughout the centuries, in order to develop it to some extent, in order to bring together so many ethnicities, so many religions, I think it's fair to say that Russia has done a better job of integrating its Muslim population, which is close to 15% than any other country, I would argue, certainly any other major country. is one of the great political stories of mankind really to see how the Russian state Was able to grow and to extend itself. And that's still there. Is that why Azerbaijan?”
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“Well every mannequin should read certainly Pesoa who died less than 100 years ago but I think deserves to be called a classic certain one of the five greatest writers of the 20th century and I'd start with Book of Disquiet which is an extraordinary book and will always remain so but then I'm afraid I'm That is fantastic, I think. It's a book I've taught when I was teaching at university. I made a point of teaching that. And I think every young person under 25 will love that book and learn a lot from it.”
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“I'm not a big music fan, I should tell you, but Bosanova, I think, is almost irresistible. For some of the reasons that I've been talking about, it is a musical form that is very close to life in its simplest element, doesn't have a very obvious message. It is about life and the small things in life that we like and love.”
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“The very opposite of everything, I believed in. But after a month it had started to get to me, how suave people are, how they live not in the moment, but in the second without worrying too much about the future. And this is true, and I think it's a good thing to point out. This is true of the upper classes in Rio, which are almost the perfect example of how to enjoy life in the world, anywhere in the world. But it's also true of everyone. I think it's well distributed across Brazilian society, the sense of enjoying life.”
2018-09-26 · Conversations with Tyler · Bruno Maçães on the Spirit of Adventure · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“I don't think the predominant sense in Brazil is of adventure. The predominant sense in Brazil is of Dolce Fariente of a certain enjoyment of life in the small things of life. When I first went to Brazil, I was the urban depressive European who listens to joy division. And when I landed in Rio Airport, I looked around that it almost seemed like the...”
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“It's difficult to know. I think there was a moment 10, 15 years ago, where people were more optimistic about Brazil than they are now, but the democracy, the democratic institution still work well. The courts work well. We're going to have an election now, which I think could be a moment to rebuild some of the things that were lost. So while that lasts, I'm still going to be an optimist. While the institutions actually resemble more the US institutions than some European institutions that are in worse shape, I think we should be optimistic.”
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