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Carl Hulse

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first: 2016-10-31
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“Yeah, and maybe that's what's going to work out for him. Maybe the best job he could have if he wanted to be president is minority leader of the House. Because then you just fight on everything and you look like the warrior against the Democrats.”
2016-10-31 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 92 - Carl Hulse · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“And then the spending bills. So just he's going to have to get Democratic Republican coalitions. So then do the people on the right of him start complaining again like they did about Boehner and drive him out? I mean, it's super complicated. And all that's also...”
2016-10-31 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 92 - Carl Hulse · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“He doesn't want it. I don't know who wants it. The big advantage from him in that is that no one else really wants it or probably couldn't get the support for it. So he's got to get through an election among Republicans after the election. So they'll all gather a couple weeks after November 8th in Washington. They'll pick their candidate for speaker, right? And that's kind of easy because that's a majority vote of Republicans, right? But in Then when the new Congress convenes on January 3rd, he's got to get elected by 218 people on the floor of the House. Does he have those votes or are there 20 Republicans who won't vote for him and then deny him? So, you know, how that all plays out is going to tell a lot of the story because then going forward, does he try to, and he's going to have to make deals with Democrats just to do the basic functions of government, just to the debt limit comes up in March. You know how that, how smoothly that always goes.”
2016-10-31 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 92 - Carl Hulse · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“To 15 seats Who are his natural allies? His conservative caucus becomes more conservative. Right. Right. So, you know, you have a couple of questions. One, does he even want the job anymore? I mean.”
2016-10-31 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 92 - Carl Hulse · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Who get Extremely focused. In fact, just to digress a little bit on that question. So Chuck Schumer is going to have to start protecting centrist Democrats in the next round. You know, Democrats from Heidi Heidkamp from North Dakota, Joe Mansion, from West Virginia, Joe Donnelly next door. Is he going to be able to be elected leader again? Will he make deals or will he just want to get set up for 2018 and maybe 2020 himself?”
2016-10-31 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 92 - Carl Hulse · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“He is more of the classic politician. Chuck Schumer, and I've talked to him about this recently, I wrote a piece on that ran this week, I think I what you were just talking to me about. Chuck Schumer sees himself as a guy who's going to get in the room and make a deal with Paul Ryan and Mitch McConnell and that he's going to be able to work these things out. He knows how to cut deals, enhanced cuts some deals, right?”
2016-10-31 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 92 - Carl Hulse · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Yeah, I mean, and I think also that right now those same analysts would say the Democrats have an advantage in the Senate, right? So let's think about that. So then you have Chuck Schumer as the new majority leader.”
2016-10-31 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 92 - Carl Hulse · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Yeah, you're thinking like a political strategist, right? And I think that was their thinking. Mitch McConnell has a way of An ability a lot of times to be against things though that he knows have to happen, even though he voted for the bank bailout, you know, he allowed some of these things that he thought would be potentially bad for Republicans to occur. But you raise an interesting point. I ran into a Republican strategist the other day, someone you would know. I'm not going to name him. We were talking about this current Senate fight. And I said, well, you know, no matter what happens, you're going to have a good number. The Republicans are going to have a strong number in the Senate and they'll be able to do things. And the guy, this is a Republican, says to me, yeah, but to what end? No one wants to do anything anymore. And we got to talking about that. And I said, well, you know, Congress isn't supposed to just be a full employment program for politicians who are smart enough to keep getting re-elected, right? At some point, you have to do some things. And this was a Republican saying somebody's got to step up to the point here eventually.”
2016-10-31 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 92 - Carl Hulse · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Yeah, but they really thought that they were dead. And so they were casting about how do we do this? And so McConnell organized his people and said the only way we're going to be able to stop this is to really hold together and just have united opposition. And he was able to pull that off. He convinced those people against their own judgment, some of them at the time, to hang together against the president. Now, Mitch McConnell would say, well, we were just hanging together against him on the bad things. If they would have worked with us on the stimulus and the health care law, of course we would have went along. But you know the rest of that story.”
2016-10-31 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 92 - Carl Hulse · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“The Republicans were in shock. I've talked to Republicans that day. They thought they were dead. Forever. Obama's this hugely popular figure transformational had some good advisors somewhere, I guess, along the way that got him there. Yes, it was all.”
2016-10-31 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 92 - Carl Hulse · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Yeah, exactly. It still didn't work out that great for him because it took him six years, right, to get those seats back. McConnell, I will take you back a little bit to the day of the new Congress, January 3rd or whatever it was in 2009.”
2016-10-31 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 92 - Carl Hulse · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Right. Yeah. No, she is really good at holding her people together. You know, which the Republicans suffer for. I mean, Mitch McConnell is a very, very effective leader. And, you know, he's turned the place upside down a little bit over the past few years. I'm going to miss Harry Reid, who's leaving this year. I think he's done some amazing things. And I think the nuclear option that he pulled on the judges, you know, eliminating the fact that...”
2016-10-31 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 92 - Carl Hulse · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Yeah, he was sort of at the beginning of the change. You know, I've spent the change. Of the climate. In Washington. And, you know, it's when the filibustering of judges began, that sort of thing. But let's just talk a little bit about some of the current people. You know what? Nancy Pelosi, I'm also going to give props to. I mean, this extremely iron-fisted as a leader and could really round up her vote.”
2016-10-31 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 92 - Carl Hulse · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“I mean, they're all been kind of effective in their own way. George Mitchell, who was there actually right at the very beginning when I was covered, majority leader in the Senate. And he was very effective, but he wouldn't deal with the press very much.”
2016-10-31 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 92 - Carl Hulse · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Who do you negotiate with? Which would, in some ways, the problems with the grand bargain in Boehner? And I know at the White House that the former Speaker Boehner, I know at the White House, there was some concern that he couldn't deliver the votes even if he made a deal.”
2016-10-31 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 92 - Carl Hulse · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Right, but there seems to be Some motivation now to try and find a way to bring it back because the appropriations process, you know, which is really the bedrock of the government, of the Congress, what they're supposed to do is totally broken. And so nothing, you know, that leads to everything being broken. So I don't know how you do it, but I think there's a case to be made for finding ways to do it. It also puts too much. You are in the executive branch yourself. It also puts too much power. You're handing over all the power of the purse to the executive branch in a way. They're making all the decisions on how the money is spent, right? But you know, it's...”
2016-10-31 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 92 - Carl Hulse · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“But so if you eliminate that, why are they going to vote for these appropriations bills, which are all stalled? Now, earmarks got very corrupt. It was a bad situation. There was out and out fraud and crime going on, you know, and Jack Abramoff, and we all know all that story.”
2016-10-31 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 92 - Carl Hulse · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“You know, John Boehner, if he's listening to this somewhere, will be very unhappy that I say that John Boehner is the one who really wanted to get rid of earmarks. I think you've taken away some of the incentives for doing business, right? You have to give guys a reason to vote for legislation. Or GALS.”
2016-10-31 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 92 - Carl Hulse · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Totally different place, totally different. You know, to me, back then, you know, there was a lot of partisanship, obviously. And, you know, I don't want to paint some picture of this Halcyon days where everybody got along. No, there was a lot of nasty partisanship. I think the thing that was different. Than it is now is almost everyone who came up there was hoping to do something, right? They wanted to get something for their state or their town or there was some motivation to deliver. And I think now you have guys that are there. And there's some on both sides. They just don't want anything to happen. And mainly the Republicans, obviously. I mean, that's just their view.”
2016-10-31 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 92 - Carl Hulse · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Mark all my letters that way, man. I don't think it did. So I was there for a while. And then the Times needed someone, because the Times used to own a lot of papers around the country, mainly in the South. And they needed somebody who knew something about Florida. I ended up there and I've just been there 30 years now.”
2016-10-31 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 92 - Carl Hulse · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Was working for a newspaper chain for a while called Thompson Newspapers. And they were sort of still just entering the digital age. We actually mailed some stories back to papers at that time. And it said on the envelope, news, please rush. And I had this image of the postman running down the street. Does that work?”
2016-10-31 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 92 - Carl Hulse · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“And that was sort of the precursor of the two thousand meltdown because they had a big voting problem in Hillsboro and Pinellas counties that I think was sort of foreshadowed all this. And so I wasn't exactly shocked when it really went bad in 2000.”
2016-10-31 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 92 - Carl Hulse · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Yeah, no, and I actually covered the Senate race, a great Senate race in Florida in 1988, Connie Mac versus Buddy McKay. I don't know if you remember that. Sure. Hey, buddy, you're a liberal. Famous line from that.”
2016-10-31 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 92 - Carl Hulse · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“You know, Florida is a funny state because they have some shady politics, but they also have the great open records laws. So you can actually find out quite a bit what's going on. I was actually there for the 2000 election. I was there that night. That was my assignment. And, you know, never seen anything like that and was there for the next week. What a Brow”
2016-10-31 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 92 - Carl Hulse · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“I mean, because there's more at stake and you get the rhythm of the legislature. You know, most city councils are, you know, they're not. Constantly meeting right legislatures are.”
2016-10-31 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 92 - Carl Hulse · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Broward County Politics, South Florida politics, and state legislature. I think state legislatures are the best place to learn. how to cover politics”
2016-10-31 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 92 - Carl Hulse · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“But, you know, I just, in fact, one of my siblings would call when I'd get a front page story in the Tribune from the news service, right? New York Times news service and say, hey, you're in the Tribune today. I said, well, you know, I work at the New York Times. And she goes, yeah, but you're on the front page of the Tribune. Yeah, that's a funny thing. That's”
2016-10-31 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 92 - Carl Hulse · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Yeah, and Bill Keller, so guys from small town Midwest state schools are not prevalent at the New York Times, right? Yes, I know. Bill Keller, the old executive editor, used to call me an affirmative action hire.”
2016-10-31 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 92 - Carl Hulse · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Yeah. I mean, some of the people are just a little smarter and the rooms are a little more ornate, right? But it's the same thing. And I never had any aspirations to work the New York Times, obviously. You went to the...”
2016-10-31 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 92 - Carl Hulse · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“I always have sort of seen myself as a government and politics reporter and some of that comes along. But, you know, just trying to convey to people what's going on. People say, oh, you cover Congress, you know? And I said, it's really just a big city council.”
2016-10-31 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 92 - Carl Hulse · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“As governor of Illinois, because there was a lot of stuff that was going on there. I mean, they hadn't been watched that closely. I mean, that was just sort of their way of doing politics, not unlike Chicago politics in a way, just reversed of the parties.”
2016-10-31 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 92 - Carl Hulse · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Yeah, no, but they were kind of like, okay, you know, it was. And so, but when I announced I was leaving at the city council meeting one night. They passed a resolution of approval that I was leaving.”
2016-10-31 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 92 - Carl Hulse · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“No, they were like, who is this guy? But, you know, the thing about the Ryan's Tom Ryan, who was the mayor of Kankakee, he was really the power. It was funny in Illinois, you know, it's so democratic in a lot of places people are used to. Kankakee County was this Republican stronghold and had this real Ryan machine. And they were very effective. When I left after a few years, I covered the city councils. I caused all sorts of trouble there, including getting the federal funds cut off to the city. They lost a federal lawsuit.”
2016-10-31 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 92 - Carl Hulse · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“I think he was, but he was moving up in the leadership. And I took it to my boss, who was cool with that they just hadn't had stories like that before.”
2016-10-31 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 92 - Carl Hulse · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“In fact, I wrote one of the first sort of negative stories about George Ryan there had caught him in some kind of legislative flim flam.”
2016-10-31 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 92 - Carl Hulse · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Yeah, I think it's the practical experience. I had a job at the La Salle Peru News Tribune the minute I graduated. I worked there. I worked at the Kanka Key Daily Journal.”
2016-10-31 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 92 - Carl Hulse · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“That's big stuff. Yeah. And at the Vedette at ISU, it was a big operation. It was five days a week, probably 20,000 copies a day because normal didn't have its own paper, Bloomington Panagraph, you know, the Stevenson family paper. So I learned a lot there. I immediately did.”
2016-10-31 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 92 - Carl Hulse · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“We were huge readers in my family. My mother was a voracious reader. I still read try and read a couple books a week, honestly. And, you know, was always sort of a writer. In fact, at St. Columba High School, I wrote a story about them tearing down a building and got a front page story in the St. Columba Crest. I think I was in third grade and never looked back.”
2016-10-31 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 92 - Carl Hulse · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“And ended up working normal, right? Yeah. The Vedette, which was the school paper there. I am a charter member of the Vedette Hall of Fame, by the way, David. Is that right? I just want you to know that.”
2016-10-31 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 92 - Carl Hulse · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“And I was the first one in my family not to go to the Catholic high school because I had enough of the discipline at the Catholic grade school and then went to Illinois State.”
2016-10-31 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 92 - Carl Hulse · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“My dad was a plumbing contractor after World War two. My mom worked for maybe a week in the courthouse and that was at six kids That's work. Yeah. No, that was a lot of work.”
2016-10-31 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 92 - Carl Hulse · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“All right, so I grew up in Ottawa, which is about 90 miles. You guys would call it southwest of here. We'd call it west. It's not really downstate to us. So small town about 15,000. My family's been there since the 1800s. And, you know, real blue-collar place where you rode your bike everywhere, a lot of farmland, a great place to grow up. Pretty rough students. Pretty rough spot. What's that?”
2016-10-31 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 92 - Carl Hulse · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source