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Carla Hayden
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“Going to be more technologically savvy, but they're also going to be, and we're seeing it now, even though there are some challenges in terms of what public libraries and school libraries offer. They're going to be even more relevant because they're still trusted sources of information. And in the world of misinformation, who can you trust? What are those trusted sources? Libraries are still going to be places that people look to.”
2024-12-12 · The David Rubenstein Show · Carla Hayden · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“I mentioned mysteries, big mystery fan because you feel a sense of satisfaction. With it. Someone usually gets killed, nobody cares, and then it's solved. So that's very reassuring.”
2024-12-12 · The David Rubenstein Show · Carla Hayden · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Well, we have had some good relations with the White House in terms of putting books on display for certain things. And we've been doing more of that recently.”
2024-12-12 · The David Rubenstein Show · Carla Hayden · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“And it is a festival. It's a one day event with over 90 authors now, and it was started by First Lady Laura Bush when my predecessor, which he came to Washington, she had started the Texas Book Festival. That's still one of the largest book festivals in the country. And they started it about 24 years ago. When you think about what we have for young people and what we do for young people, there's an entire section that is going to feature interactive activities and authors for young people, famous authors that we all know, Doris Currens Goodwin, James McBride, James Patterson will be there. You'll be there. And it's just heartening when we just talked about illiteracy and when you see all of these book lovers that are gathered. Thousands and thousands of people.”
2024-12-12 · The David Rubenstein Show · Carla Hayden · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“The Ivory Bookstore in Baltimore, and it's funny because now people are watching what I'm buying. So you have to be careful.”
2024-12-12 · The David Rubenstein Show · Carla Hayden · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Always love to read, and so when I get some spare time, I can look at old New Yorkers and you know how they pile up. I can read a mystery. I love mysteries and biographies.”
2024-12-12 · The David Rubenstein Show · Carla Hayden · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“The library budget goes through the appropriations committees on both sides, Senate and House. And then there are policy committees that help with the direction of the library itself. Though budgeting gives you direction as well.”
2024-12-12 · The David Rubenstein Show · Carla Hayden · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“And this is where the accessibility for everyone comes into play because 85 to 90 percent of the library's operating budget is from an appropriation from Congress. And that's taxpayer money. And so that's another reason why we're really. Just devoted to making sure people know that this is their library too.”
2024-12-12 · The David Rubenstein Show · Carla Hayden · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“One of the joys, it's like being in a university. They're like faculty members and they are subject experts in whatever subject you have. The library of Congress there collects in 470 languages. Half of the collection is in languages other than English. And so the Middle Eastern division, you're going to have experts from the region who are from the region and speak.”
2024-12-12 · The David Rubenstein Show · Carla Hayden · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Roughly 3,500. They're not all librarians. Those are the people you have copyright lawyers, all types of people that work at the library company.”
2024-12-12 · The David Rubenstein Show · Carla Hayden · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Well, we have wonderful philanthropic support, the James Madison Council. You definitely have been the leader of that. And that's the philanthropic arm of the library. And so there are actual donations of cash or that, but also grants. The Mellon Foundation gave the library one of its largest grants ever. work with communities about their histories. And also we just started a friends group, the Library of Congress had never had a friends group. And so at a certain level, you can be a friend of the Library of Congress. And then people give actual collections and collection items. And that's truly wonderful because we wouldn't be able to purchase some of the things that people have given us.”
2024-12-12 · The David Rubenstein Show · Carla Hayden · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“I was concerned about what I could bring to the position because I had been so involved with public libraries, public access, all of that, the career, but I never thought of actually being part of the Library of Congress because of what the perception was that it was mainly for scholars, it was that. And so what President Obama asked me was. He started it out with telling me that he had seen the contents of Abraham Lincoln's pockets the night he was assassinated. He had seen the first draft reading copy of the Gettysburg address that Lincoln took, but he said at the Library Congress. But he said, I think that's because of my position. He said, What could you do with your background to open up the Library Congress to everyone? And that's when I thought and said to him, I think I could do that.”
2024-12-12 · The David Rubenstein Show · Carla Hayden · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Leave that started with Lincoln. and that it would be a position that the president would nominate similar to. Supreme Court justice, and that it was that type of position. And so you still have to be confirmed by the Senate. And I went through that process.”
2024-12-12 · The David Rubenstein Show · Carla Hayden · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“He did well it was so interesting too that years later I would be sitting almost like this in the Obel Office being interviewed by the President of the United States because that's the person who nominates the Library of Congress and it's that”
2024-12-12 · The David Rubenstein Show · Carla Hayden · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“We could never tell if they did. But what happened was when I went back. The person that was the administrator for the city of Chicago that had in her portfolio, the public library, was Michelle Robinson. And I got to know her because she was responsible as a deputy mayor type of physician. And then she got engaged to this gentleman who had a interesting name. And I was recruited to head up the Baltimore Library. And so in that July, I missed the wedding.”
2024-12-12 · The David Rubenstein Show · Carla Hayden · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Chief librarian. I went back to Chicago. Our soul did a stint at the Museum of Science and Industry, and that was really helpful because I worked more with the curators, but also opening up a public library in a museum.”
2024-12-12 · The David Rubenstein Show · Carla Hayden · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“I went back and I went back because one of my students that I had sent off with all this Knowledge is power and go and work in these libraries and help people and everything. He came back and said Going to get a PhD and I want to teach. And I said, but you were doing so well, I thought, at this big urban library. And he said, well, you told me to bring my ideas up, and I saw the director of the library, and I went up to him, and I was trying to tell him some of the things that I was interested in, and he blew me off. And I thought, oh, okay, this isn't that. And so I'm coming back to academia.”
2024-12-12 · The David Rubenstein Show · Carla Hayden · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“I went off to teach at the library school in University of Pittsburgh. And that school was really before its time the dean there was Tony Carbull. Really wanted to make sure that there was a merger with information science, computer science. She brought in technology companies and it was really an innovative library school.”
2024-12-12 · The David Rubenstein Show · Carla Hayden · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“There are about 56 library schools, but now they're mainly called information science schools, schools of information science or information management. The University of Chicago School closed and the Columbia University closed because their programs were deemed a little too academic.”
2024-12-12 · The David Rubenstein Show · Carla Hayden · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Well, there was a little byway there. My dad got Bitten by the jazz bug, and we moved to New York City so he could pursue that. Parents got divorced because my mom did not get bitten by that book. So then we returned to their home states of Illinois. So I ended up going to high school and then college in Chicago.”
2024-12-12 · The David Rubenstein Show · Carla Hayden · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Yes, my father had been recruited to start the string department at that school. He was a classically trained violinist and string instruments, and so he was there. And then my mom, the pianist. She was his accompanist many times. They went down there. They'd never been to Florida. They had never been to a historically backed college. And they were from Springfield, Illinois, my dad, and Champaign, Illinois, my mom. So it was just a totally different experience for them.”
2024-12-12 · The David Rubenstein Show · Carla Hayden · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“People are using public libraries, as someone has said, as opportunity centers. They use the high-speed computers to fill out job applications, to interact with government. The whole e-government aspect. They are using libraries as places to register, to vote, to vote, and all types of things. And libraries are offering collections that are beyond books. So libraries are circulating and responding to communities in so many ways.”
2024-12-12 · The David Rubenstein Show · Carla Hayden · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“It's a challenge with the digital age because people are reading on tablets. So we do count that as reading. If you have an e-book, you're reading the book, and I've been often asked if I'm listening to a book, are you reading? Does that count? But there is a concern that the amount of reading, actual text that people are doing is diminishing. And so how do you work with other organizations so the Library of Congress connects to public libraries, school libraries, and we do joint programming with them because There is an opportunity for us to let people know and to make reading.”
2024-12-12 · The David Rubenstein Show · Carla Hayden · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Well, we've started to be a card member, to use the 18 reading rooms of the library card. You might be 16. It's a card, it's a reader's card to give you access to the materials to say that you're responsible in that, even though you can't check them out. It's to have a record of who's coming in and to do that. What we've done, though, is to expand the offerings that we have for young people. We have a young people's ambassador for literature. We have literacy programs. And you've been involved in giving actual awards to literacy groups that help young people learn how to read. And so the offerings that we have for young people have expanded greatly.”
2024-12-12 · The David Rubenstein Show · Carla Hayden · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“There are so many items that have not been digitized and might not ever be digitized. When you think about the diaries of Theodore Roosevelt, the Library of Congress has the papers of 23 presidents from George Washington to Coolidge. There will still be analog materials that could be digitized but will be in analog form. And books, even though you can get things in digital form, there are still people and there still will be an appetite for a physical item, but the future is definitely digital. And so libraries like the Library Congress, British Library, all libraries are making sure that they have the infrastructure to be able to get Materials that are born digital, and so we have quite a bit of materials that are coming in. They never are in analog form. They're coming straight in digital form, and we're able to circulate them.”
2024-12-12 · The David Rubenstein Show · Carla Hayden · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“We've just been designated in the Guinness Book of Role Records as the largest library in the world and our closest competitor, and it's really not competition, is the British Library. That's the national library of Great Britain. And we have a friendly kind of rivalry. But in terms of number of items, and we definitely are the largest.”
2024-12-12 · The David Rubenstein Show · Carla Hayden · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“That's also me. And so I'm a twofer in terms of that. So there haven't been any people of color or females. And it's interesting the most one of the most unusual parts of me being in the position is the fact that I'm a female because librarianship is one of what they call the four feminized professions where 85 to 90 percent of the people who work in the institution are female, but the top management doesn't reflect that.”
2024-12-12 · The David Rubenstein Show · Carla Hayden · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Their first female librarian of Congress since 1802. So the library itself was established, the law books in 1800, and then in 1802 there was a thought, well, we need somebody to manage this. And that's when the first librarian of Congress was appointed.”
2024-12-12 · The David Rubenstein Show · Carla Hayden · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Now, the librarian of Congress is basically the CEO of the entire enterprise. And that includes the U.S. copyright office, a Library of Congress in 1870 became the administrative operation and really the main manager of the U.S. copyright system. That's also how the library collection grew because when you register for copyright, whatever it is, you are required to deposit two copies of whatever it is. Now that could be wallpaper, video games, but books. And when the Library of Congress became the administrator of the copyright system, they were able to then select from deposits and the collection really grew.”
2024-12-12 · The David Rubenstein Show · Carla Hayden · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“You could not do that. What you could do and what many libraries, public libraries and university and college libraries throughout the United States and even in some international facilities, the Library of Congress will loan materials to another library and a patron could look at the materials right there. But they couldn't take them home, but they could look at them in their own library.”
2024-12-12 · The David Rubenstein Show · Carla Hayden · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“It's evolved. And over time, it evolved into not only the reference tool for Congress. And there's still about 500 experts in just about every field that are dedicated to being the researchers and nonpartisan experts for Congress. And that's still there. The library has expanded to serve the people that Congress serves. So now it is the largest library in the world with 178 million items and it serves everyone. Now, the only people who can actually check out materials in the traditional sense are members of Congress and their staff members, but members of the public, the general public, can come into the Library of Congress's facilities and use materials on”
2024-12-12 · The David Rubenstein Show · Carla Hayden · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Of Congress and think about this. In 1800, a new nation, a new legislative body, there was the thought that they needed some reference books and they were mainly law books, the first books that were purchased about 600 books. And that's how the Library of Congress really started. Think of the name, the Library of Congress. So it is a reference and research tool for Congress and they knew that because they have parliamentary libraries and they knew about those types of things. So they knew that as legislators they might have to refer.”
2024-12-12 · The David Rubenstein Show · Carla Hayden · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source